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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:01 AM ET #776

I saw the whole game of CHI.. I even watched the tornado past.. LOL

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kaboons

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:11 AM ET #777

I wasn't talking about den pats, I am leaning patriots seems like Brady and manning sleep together and share secrets

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kaboons

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:13 AM ET #778

Giants won't win was my point on the previous post, people will bet on hope

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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:39 AM ET #779

I was leaning ne over den for the upcoming game,, alot of times people get robbed twice in a row.. Go back to the Philly-Kc game... I think this game will end like that... going Den

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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:42 AM ET #780

Kaboons,, one more thing you may have missed.. That Ne-den game line came out before this Car-Ne game even ended...

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bmacattack

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:47 AM ET #781

Quote Originally Posted by inthetank:

I am a 66 year old guy and been on "both sides" of wagering for over 45 years.....So, I will speak from experience...And plenty of it.....Losing by half points at the end much, much more than u can ever imagine....I could go back and name you games, players, lines etc, that WERE ALL SHADY....You, Boston Celtic, are ahead of things already, but I don't know your age,,,,And indeed, IT IS CONTROLLED....If you owned a multi-billion dollar business,like the NFL is, would you not want to have control over it??.....OF COURSE!.....THAT is why things are the way they are....If anyone tells you differently, THEY BELIEVE IN THE TOOTH FAIRY.....I once bet game years ago taking "over" 35.5 as the total in a Sunday afternoon game....It was 35-0 at the half!....I was all smiles, butttttt, no score in the second half...Several drives inside the ten ended in fumbles....Hmmmm....Plus 4 missed field goals.....YOUR BEST BET IS TO DO WHAT YOU DO, AND IF IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, GO OPPOSITE,,,,I have made and lost fortunes in the NFL.....If you took the gambling out of it, which is impossible, you would drop viewer watch by 70-80 percent....VEGAS is very, very smart.....IN THE LONG RUN, 94 PERCENT OF BETTORS LOSE AND "CHASE!".....I sort of do what you do, plus I have a guy who is a born loser, and I go opposite....Today, he LOVED N.O.....SEE!!!!!!!!.....I made 2 plays today, that one plus DENVER....Money dropped line way down on NYG at home....Many on forums, plus my pal, lovedddddddd the Giants.....I'm 2-0, and done till next week....I am not saying that every game etc, is controlled, buttttt, many, many are, and you're on the right track in what you see.....Best of luck....

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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 2:10 AM ET #782

Boston,, You're right on about the divisions... But if you compare to last year... All the leaders last year drops to the bottom and the bottom rises to the top, Except for tom brady...

Tank you are right on as well... There's alot of trickery... coming from all angles... I always use atleast 4 filters before i make my picks for my big plays,, usually i have a buddy with good information,, the rest of the games i cap myself...

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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 4:22 AM ET #783

Boston,, You're right on about the divisions... But if you compare to last year... All the leaders last year drops to the bottom and the bottom rises to the top, Except for tom brady...

Tank you are right on as well... There's alot of trickery... coming from all angles... I always use atleast 4 filters before i make my picks for my big plays,, usually i have a buddy with good information,, the rest of the games i cap myself...

I also had stl but for a small play...

Kaboons sorry you gave back some money on sunday night.. When a favorite is giving more than they should against a team with a bettor record... You better think twice... I gave some back on the early sunday plays but got double back on the middle, snf, and mnf plays...

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HoldingXYZ

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 4:24 AM ET #784

Here's the funny part guys to end the week... Did you guys see the look on Alex smiths face? LOL HE KNEW IT BUT THERES NOTHING HE CAN DO

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kaboons

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 11:37 AM ET #785

i stayed away sunday night. those were my thoughts exactly. spread to high is why denver would prolly cover.

went 6-0 this week

im trying to talk myself out of tampa bay money line. it seems like such a stupid bet. but that is why i think it might hit.

taking tb plus 10 as a start

btw i love the acting job tom brady did after the game to the refs. he should win an oscar

24-20 car covers by 1 under hits by one. there was going to be no scoring by pats to ruin the perfect score

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 11:52 AM ET #786

HoldingXYZ, one thing suspicious of the ending was that to win with one minute left KC needed to go 50 yards for a field goal and then get an onside kick. Getting the field goal would mean that KC would cover ATS.

But instead of big plays, Alex Smith kept trying 2-yard and 3-yard pass plays that even Al and Chris commented made no sense in that situation. So that supports your theory of a fix in favor of Denver on a huge SNF game where 60% of the money was on KC.

We see similar craziness on end-of-game goal line stands from time to time where instead of just punching it in with a running back or quarteback sneak from the 2-yard line, a team will try 4 funky passing plays in a row.

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:16 PM ET #787

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greek1999

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:19 PM ET #788

Low Totals Especially in the nfl always go over 60%

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kaboons

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 12:31 PM ET #789

sorry atl plays thurs not tampa

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BostonCelticFTW

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Posted: Nov. 19, 2013 - 7:37 PM ET #790

I would be scared of picking Cowboys over Giants. I am gonna stay away from that one.

When i went into this season i thought to my self... Peyton in the bowl is 100% going to happen - and Eli too? Yeah maybe, that could happen. They looked like garbage, but look whats happening... And Giants have gotten back into the division PLENTY of times especially when they won the bowl 2 years ago. On the other hand, i thought Cowboys would win the division this year, so this is just a STAY AWAY at least for now.

THIS YEAR IS THE ONLY YEAR, with a chance of a manning bowl to happen. THIS IS THE ONLY YEAR FELLAS. Next year they need teams like Seattle in the bowl, maybe Atlanta to get back on track or a team like New Orleans, and maybe a long shot in cowgirls to get this big franchise back on its track. The league dont want to carry the load of Giants next year, especially because they want Redskins with RGIII to do well next year and they may want Eagles to be up there as well. So the league cannot gift them like they have previously, they have given them plenty of gifts in the past like 2 years ago for example. So the gift show is over. This is their last shot, i think chances are rather slim, but IF THE MANNING BOWL HAPPENS then it is this year, and not next year. Peyton has good chances of taking it this year, but i think Brady will win if not next year, then the following year again. Because Brady will defo get a ring before he ends his career, and this year is just meant-to-be Peytons year so its all good. All are happy. And if Peyton wins this year, and Patriots next, they want a NFC team to win sooner or later. They are not gonna allow AFC to win 6-7 years in a row thats for sure.

Well its a long wall of text here, but my point is:

THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE TO SEE THE GIANTS IN PLAYOFFS. The following years to come the league prefers Eagles, Cowboys and Redskins over Giants to make progress and to get up there. So its now or never. Lights are gonna be off for 5-7 years for Giants as i see it before they make it back up there.

And the league doesnt give a god damn about Eli Manning making it to the bowl, its only interesting if Peyton is there, he will be this year so... this is their year. Now or never moment.

On the other hand, i am VERY confident that Eagles will lose. I may go out there and martingale it, if they dont lose next game they will lose the following.

Eagles have shown signs of improvement. Thats good enough for them. Their mission is not to go deep in playoffs, this is where they are capable. So i think its more likely that Cowboys win the division or Giants win it to make hype about Manning bowl. Even hype is just good, if u can hype the manning bowl up the league can profit a lot from this. For example, lets say Giants make it to the conf. finals, then what they could do is simply just to post lots of articles about Manning Bowl like they did last year with Harbaugh Bowl, and then they use reverse psychology to think what i think: The league wants Manning Bowl, so it will happen. And then everyone bets on giants in the conf final and gets beaten up. Its always relative... But i do think some kind of hype will be created about this Manning Bowl to happen or NOT to happen. Giants will get their chances. Vegas and the NFL will cook this fact.

TL;DR: Giants v Cowboys is a stay away game, Philadelphis are likely to lose their next game or in the worst case they will win but then drop the following game to come.