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Posted: #176
Originally quoted by itbdubz5...
 
Based on your logic of "winning", guys like Marino, Fouts, Kelly etc. all sucked as well right?
 
What have guys like Palmer and Brees won?
 
Also, based on your theory we have to label Trent Dilfer (Ravens) as a "winner" or great?
 
All great points.  You took the words right out of my mouth.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sucker_Free:

although I don't think it'll take near that long for him to do more than McNabb.


What exactly is more than McDone........Let me see 
1. Go to a superbowl and either win or not throw three picks in a loss
2. Maintain a Qb rating higher then 85.8
3. Not look like you ate yourself by 32.......someone pop him to aleve the swelling.
4.Keep his mother off of soup commercials.  I have not eaten that soup since.
5. Not fight with the best receiver you ever had. 

  Romo should be able to achieve all of this........Hell give me a helmet......I can damn near do it.

 

That is some funny shit dude.    I'm not sure that they're all good points, but it is funny!

 
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No we do not have to do that. 

Who would take Marino or Fouts  in the draft.......given what they already know about their careers. 

Please be the first one to step right in here and get trapped.     No one in there right mind would draft a guy if they knew he would not win. 

Dilfer should not have been traded, he was  the perfect QB for the Ravens........look @ the Ravens since.

   If you can not see that Mcnabb is old,fat and Done...I feel for ya.    ! decent year  in the next 3-4 maybe, but nothing that even comes close to a top 5 performance.
 
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Posted: #179
Top 5 right now?
 
1. Brady
2. Peyton
3. Derek Anderson (wasn't a fluke season)
4. David Garrard
5. Jason Campbell - hopefully he's healthy.
 
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Fat, slow, done, fights with his "pill popping" WR, old.
 
I'm wondering why this guy (McNabb) even has a job still.
 
You boys get all salty w/McNabb b/c you probably drafted him in your fantasy league when he was hurt. Oh Well
 
Sucker----that line about who would draft Fouts etc, knowing they would never win consistently in their careers is absurd.
 
These people would never have been drafted, based on your keen insight:
 
Sam Bowie                                          
Len Bias                                              
Ryan Leaf                                             
Shawn Bradley
Kijana Carter
Lawrence phillips
Curtis Enis
Tony Mandarich
Andre Ware
David Klingler
Gino torretta
Steve Emtman
Aundray Bruce
Sebastian Telfair
Brian Bosworth
Kwame Brown
Percy Snow
Jeff george
Todd marinovich
 
Friends these are "busts", not a guy like Fouts or Marino that could throw for 300 yds SEVERAL times a season.
 
I sprinkled in some NBAers for shits and giggles.  Busts are in every sport, but it's part of the game.
 
 
Sucker-------Thanks for shedding some light on how dense you are.
 
Quote from Suckerfree
 
"Trent Dilfer should never have been traded, he was the perfect QB for the Ravens...Look @ the Ravens since."
 
I take it that you don't get drug tested @ Work?
 
 
 
 
 
BTW-as of this post, Romo was still looking for his first playoff win!
 
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Posted: #181
Did anybody come up w/the list of Playoff wins by active QBs?
 
 
 
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Goodkat...
 
     You make a few good points, but I've got to call you out on a few of your errors in your post.  Number one:  There are alot of folks out there that have Big Ben in their top five, and they are not all out of their minds.  Just to say such a thing is at the least borderline absurd.  And being in the top five in passing yards is not a must to be considered a top five.  Number two:  To say that Hasselbeck, Garcia, and Bulger could do just as well in the 'Burgh is not absurd, but you just dont know that.  Ben played one year at QB in high school and just three years in the MAC.  Then he came into the NFL and took the job over in the 3rd game of his rookie season.  And never lost a game all year.  That is nothing short of amazing.  Then he nearly took his team to the Super Bowl in his second year.  After failing to do so, he promised Bettis that he would get him there if he stayed around, and he delivered.  And by the way, Bulger is not top five and should not be in this discussion.  He's close, but not there.  Number three:  Romo is not a clown.  He may be a fluke (I dont think he is), but to say he is a clown is just out of line IMO.  The NFC is a joke though.  I will give you that.  You NAILED THAT.  Number four:  You cant downplay the receivers' talent on that Bengals team.  Palmer does have that and many QB's in the league would love to have TJ and Housh.  I dont like Carson Palmer.  But he is good IMO.  Number five:  You said Ben "does not have even close to all of the tools needed to be considered in this catagory".  This is downright absurd.  That's all I can say on that matter. 
 
     One of the reasons I dont like your boy Palmer is that almost every time the Steelers beat up on your Ben-Gals he seems to always tell the press that the better team didn't win.  In my opinion he needs to grow up and quite whining so much.  I've heard him say that more than once or twice following a loss and I think he just has to come to terms with the fact that the Steelers are better. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lvmike:

top 5 in the nfl right now cause there could be 2 on that list that maybe unavailiable or in some people opinion over the hill.

1.brady any person who thinks peyton mannning is a better qb is a fool brady hasnt had top line offensive talaent since last year. winning superbowl with bottom level talent at widereceiver

2. manning(peyton) for al u guys that put eli on your list .....seriously move out of new york you will get a better perspective. peyton has always been surrounded by offensive talent.

3. palmer has good offense around him always solid great passer really puts it on the numbers all the time

4.brett favre anytime brett steps on the field in the next 2 years he can still make play. his arm strength still there his ability to play still there. 1 game away from superbowl last year

5.michael vick alot of people hate michael vick but seriously he killed or had some dogs killed. because of over population animals are put to death everyday in animal shelters across the nation. The gambling aspect of this is what is going to get him in trouble with nfl but he is still a top 5 qb and when he gets out of prison any team will sign him in a heartbeat

 

  MICHAEL VICK

 

     Thanks dude!  That's some of the funniest shit in this thread.  Great athlete.  Average at best quarterback.   I laughed my ass off when they let go of Schuab.  I knew they would rue the day.  He's better than Vick ever was.  And because Vick was such a celebrated ATHLETE, they kept in the starting lineup.  That dude said it best when he called Vick a "coach killer".  Yeah the dude could run like a gazelle, but he lacked so many other needed skills to be a winning qb.  I've already said it and I'll say it again:  No team with him at QB will ever win anything.   The only way he'll win a Super Bowl (if he can find employment later) is if his defense and running game are both far superior than anything in the league.  And I'll lay big money that that never happens.  The odds are it wont.  And even then the coach will have to be smart enough to limit his throws.  The dude just doesn't have the grey matter to achieve at that level. 

 

Were you serious about listing Vick?  C'mon dude...

Besides... him and his brother are simply a lower form of life.

 

    


 
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Posted: #184
Hey Steel, it's funny because itbdubz5 kinda contradicts himself because according to him Romo sucks because he's 0-2 in the playoffs. Slightly contradictory?
 
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Posted: #185
Quote Originally Posted by Richman:

Top 5 right now?
 
1. Brady
2. Peyton
3. Derek Anderson (wasn't a fluke season)
4. David Garrard
5. Jason Campbell - hopefully he's healthy.

 

Thanks for your input but I cant agree with Anderson and Campell.  Anderson needs to prove that he's not a fluke and that takes a few more games (more than 21), and Campbell's numbers are average at best after only having played 20 games. 

 
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Posted: #186
Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

Originally quoted by itbdubz5...
 
Based on your logic of "winning", guys like Marino, Fouts, Kelly etc. all sucked as well right?
 
What have guys like Palmer and Brees won?
 
Also, based on your theory we have to label Trent Dilfer (Ravens) as a "winner" or great?
 
All great points.  You took the words right out of my mouth.

Whoops! This was supposed to go with this.....

Hey Steel, it's funny because itbdubz5 kinda contradicts himself because according to him Romo sucks because he's 0-2 in the playoffs. Slightly contradictory?
 
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Posted: #187
Quote Originally Posted by L8kersFan74:

Hey Steel, it's funny because itbdubz5 kinda contradicts himself because according to him Romo sucks because he's 0-2 in the playoffs. Slightly contradictory?

 

I noticed that too.

 
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      Something else to ponder.  Romo sat the bench for a while, but what if Bledsoe had done just enough to keep the job and hadn't got hurt.  Where would Brady be now?  There are many stories like that.  Just because Romo sat the bench doesn't mean he was terrible.  How does a Willie Parker never start in college at NC?  How does James Harrison sit the bench for four years and then make the Pro Bowl after his first year as a starter?  If you dont get the opportunity and the right breaks, you cant succeed.
 
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Hey SteelCash, Im gonna add you as a friend cause I want to be able to find you fast when the Bengals win the AFC North this season.
 
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Lakers (you too steel), your reading comprehension skills are somehwhat lacking.
 
NEVER did I state that Romo sucks.
 
Merely pointing out he fact that he's 0-2  in the playoffs , yet some of you guys are leg humping him.
 
 
Lakers- Critique the BOZO that is implying that FOUTS and MARINO were a bust. 
 
Both have their "busts" in CANTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
7-5 in the playoffs 
 
 
or 0-2?
 
 
 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

      Something else to ponder.  Romo sat the bench for a while, but what if Bledsoe had done just enough to keep the job and hadn't got hurt.  Where would Brady be now?  There are many stories like that.  Just because Romo sat the bench doesn't mean he was terrible.  How does a Willie Parker never start in college at NC?  How does James Harrison sit the bench for four years and then make the Pro Bowl after his first year as a starter?  If you dont get the opportunity and the right breaks, you cant succeed.

Excellent point Steel...

And with that we could even start another list.....guys who were backups and flourished when given the opportunity. Some pretty big names would be on that list...

Favre, Brady, Romo, Delhomme, Bulger, Garrard...

And that's not to say that ALL of these guys have been GREAT, but they have all had their share of success.

 
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Yes, saying that Fouts and Marino are busts is completely ludicrous.....completely agree there.
 
Harping on the fact that Romo is 0-2 thus far in the playoffs after one full season as a starting QB is also ludicrous AND with that you are implying that he sucks. Why don't we see what Romo's playoff record is after 8 full seasons as a starting QB.....OR after 12 playoff games. Trying to compare them now is completely ludicrous. Romo is in the beginning of what should be a great career, and he SHOULD be considered one of the top QB's right now.....McNabb is in the twilight of his career and he is done; older, fatter, slower, injury-prone, and a worn out body. Facts are facts.......JACK!
 
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ItsDubz.......I do not give two shits if they are in Canton.........that has nothing to do with this argument......stay on topic .......I bet you were the little ADD kid eating glue in school. 

  Let's restate the question for little Johnny....he was busy looking through his messy desk when the question was asked.

In the league, right now, who are your top five in no particular order?

  ^^^^^^^^ When you get Pwned do not change the topic!!!!!!!!!!!  This is not about Canton!

Mcnabb is still an over-rated over weight disaster waiting to happen.  Top 5........Not even close there are 10-12 that are better QB's   THIS YEAR.

 
 
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sucker------
 
 
 
 
 
"THIS YEAR"      
 
 
 
Didn't  even start yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sucker_Free:

Top 5........Not even close there are 10-12 that are better QB's   THIS YEAR.

 

If I was a coach, GM, owner, or whatever; these are the QB's I would take over McNabb to start the 2008 season...

Brady, P. Manning, Romo, Roethlisberger, Palmer, Brees, Anderson, Garrard, Rivers, Cutler, Hasselbeck, Bulger, V. Young, Favre, E. Manning...

That's 15...

 
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Dec 16 2007 @ Dallas
 
McNabb       23-41   208 yds  0 int 1 TD  9 rushes for 53 yds
 
 
 
Romo          13-36   214 yds 3 int   0 TD  1 rush for 16 yds
 
Eagles win 10-6
Keep in mind this game was ugly, but seriously?  "If" McNAbb blows so bad, how do we explain the numbers and result?
 
Just wondering how a team loses to a fat, old, slow, has been, never was QB?
 
 
Sucker----your earlier comments about Fouts and MArino being busts.....
 
Well let's just say you should "lock it up" and remain silent.  As you are a bufoon.
 
Next you'll be telling us how bad Earl Campbell sucked.
 
 
 
 
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Dude, you can take one game like that on just about any quarterback.....Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Brett Favre; nobody goes undefeated dude and we could all nitpick like that about everybody if we wanted to.....
 
Let it go dude.....
 
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Undefeated? 
 
Brother, your in for a rude awakening this season.
 
Let "this" go.
 
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So by your logic as long as a guy wins in the regular season he is great.

I would not pick Marino in a draft....he could not win the big game.   I would not draft Fouts either knowing what I know now.  If you can not win the big ones.....what good are you?   
Mcnabb is not even in the same league as those to QB's.....to mention the three of them in a sentence is foolish. 
Unless the sentence is   Donavan Mcnabb was jailed in Ohio earlier today for stealing yellow jackets from Dan Fouts and Dan Marino. Mcnabb was quoted as saying he just could not handle being passed on for the fifth straight time by the pro football Hall of Fame.
 
 
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Marinos stats @ mcnabbs age  in adifferent era as well

1981* 30 SDG QB 16 16 360 609 59.1 4802 33 5.4 17 2.8 67 7.9 7.2 13.3 300.1 90.6 19 134 7.4 6.7 3.0

Fouts @ same age

Let's see what Mcnabb does this year.....since you like to compare him to real QB's @ age 32.

LOFL   not a chance in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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