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    NFL PLAYOFFS .............................................................................2022 season

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 10:08 AM ET #151

    Let's compare KC and Bengals in both PR's last year and this year.

    PR I .......

    2021 --- Bengals -.62 over KC, KC -7 last year

    2022 --- KC -2.58 Over Bengals 

    PR II...................

    2021 --- KC -.98 over Bengals 

    2022 --- KC -7.07 Over Bengals

    Playoff Only PR I .............

    2021 --- KC -2.66 over Bengals 

    2022 --- KC -11.24 over Bengals 

     

    In every case KC is the improved team.

    Last season if you remember KC really improved over the final 9 games as did the 9ers but both lost SU. But the one area KC didn't improve by much last year was good ole total yards margin in the 2cd half of the season.

    2021 --- Bengals improved by 8.82 yards from mid-season to end of season

                KC improved by 6.52 yards, Bengals once again in 2021 was the slightly better team even though KC had improved in final 9 games they did not improve as much as the Bengals did in this one important area.

    2022 --- KC +21

                 Bengals -13

     

    Once again look at how Bengals have regressed and KC has improved, KC wins this game SU and it won't be by 3 pts or 4 pts either.

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    Let's compare KC and Bengals in both PR's last year and this year.

    PR I .......

    2021 --- Bengals -.62 over KC, KC -7 last year

    2022 --- KC -2.58 Over Bengals 

    PR II...................

    2021 --- KC -.98 over Bengals 

    2022 --- KC -7.07 Over Bengals

    Playoff Only PR I .............

    2021 --- KC -2.66 over Bengals 

    2022 --- KC -11.24 over Bengals 

     

    In every case KC is the improved team.

    Last season if you remember KC really improved over the final 9 games as did the 9ers but both lost SU. But the one area KC didn't improve by much last year was good ole total yards margin in the 2cd half of the season.

    2021 --- Bengals improved by 8.82 yards from mid-season to end of season

                KC improved by 6.52 yards, Bengals once again in 2021 was the slightly better team even though KC had improved in final 9 games they did not improve as much as the Bengals did in this one important area.

    2022 --- KC +21

                 Bengals -13

     

    Once again look at how Bengals have regressed and KC has improved, KC wins this game SU and it won't be by 3 pts or 4 pts either.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 10:10 AM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    Let's compare KC and Bengals in both PR's last year and this year. PR I ....... 2021 --- Bengals -.62 over KC, KC -7 last year 2022 --- KC -2.58 Over Bengals  PR II................... 2021 --- KC -.98 over Bengals  2022 --- KC -7.07 Over Bengals Playoff Only PR I ............. 2021 --- KC -2.66 over Bengals  2022 --- KC -11.24 over Bengals    In every case KC is the improved team. Last season if you remember KC really improved over the final 9 games as did the 9ers but both lost SU. But the one area KC didn't improve by much last year was good ole total yards margin in the 2cd half of the season. 2021 --- Bengals improved by 8.82 yards from mid-season to end of season             KC improved by 6.52 yards, Bengals once again in 2021 was the slightly better team even though KC had improved in final 9 games they did not improve as much as the Bengals did in this one important area. 2022 --- KC +21              Bengals -13   Once again look at how Bengals have regressed and KC has improved, KC wins this game SU and it won't be by 3 pts or 4 pts either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

    Let's compare KC and Bengals in both PR's last year and this year. PR I ....... 2021 --- Bengals -.62 over KC, KC -7 last year 2022 --- KC -2.58 Over Bengals  PR II................... 2021 --- KC -.98 over Bengals  2022 --- KC -7.07 Over Bengals Playoff Only PR I ............. 2021 --- KC -2.66 over Bengals  2022 --- KC -11.24 over Bengals    In every case KC is the improved team. Last season if you remember KC really improved over the final 9 games as did the 9ers but both lost SU. But the one area KC didn't improve by much last year was good ole total yards margin in the 2cd half of the season. 2021 --- Bengals improved by 8.82 yards from mid-season to end of season             KC improved by 6.52 yards, Bengals once again in 2021 was the slightly better team even though KC had improved in final 9 games they did not improve as much as the Bengals did in this one important area. 2022 --- KC +21              Bengals -13   Once again look at how Bengals have regressed and KC has improved, KC wins this game SU and it won't be by 3 pts or 4 pts either.

    Yes peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 11:00 AM ET #153

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    peace_5 ............... KC .........an_cheers

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    peace_5 ............... KC .........an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 11:04 AM ET #154

    Blowout wins ,.............

    2021 .....

    Bengals 6-2= 4

    KC 4-1=3

    Once again we see Bengals the slightly better team last year.

     

    2022 .............

    KC 5-0=5

    Bengals 2-1=1

    Big 4 game difference this year.

    The evidence continues to point in one direction.

    One team has improved and one team has regressed

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    Blowout wins ,.............

    2021 .....

    Bengals 6-2= 4

    KC 4-1=3

    Once again we see Bengals the slightly better team last year.

     

    2022 .............

    KC 5-0=5

    Bengals 2-1=1

    Big 4 game difference this year.

    The evidence continues to point in one direction.

    One team has improved and one team has regressed

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 11:08 AM ET #155

    Close wins ........

    2021 Bengals +2

    2022 Bengals +2

    No difference 

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    Close wins ........

    2021 Bengals +2

    2022 Bengals +2

    No difference 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 2:39 PM ET #156

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     How many points defines a blowout win and likewise, a close win? 

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     How many points defines a blowout win and likewise, a close win? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 7:56 PM ET #157

    Claw, I was wondering the same question. What’s the blowout margin to get Kc 5-0 and Cin to 2-1?

    if it’s 17+ then Cin would be 3-1 with this last win at Buf but 2-1 reg season 

    but I can’t get Kc even close to 5-0 with those perimeters.  At 17 or more it’s 3-0, if you move it to 16+ you get the rams game to 4-0 but I remember that rams game week 12 line was all over the place leading up to gametime

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    Claw, I was wondering the same question. What’s the blowout margin to get Kc 5-0 and Cin to 2-1?

    if it’s 17+ then Cin would be 3-1 with this last win at Buf but 2-1 reg season 

    but I can’t get Kc even close to 5-0 with those perimeters.  At 17 or more it’s 3-0, if you move it to 16+ you get the rams game to 4-0 but I remember that rams game week 12 line was all over the place leading up to gametime

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2023 - 9:24 AM ET #158

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    Claw, I was wondering the same question. What’s the blowout margin to get Kc 5-0 and Cin to 2-1? if it’s 17+ then Cin would be 3-1 with this last win at Buf but 2-1 reg season  but I can’t get Kc even close to 5-0 with those perimeters.  At 17 or more it’s 3-0, if you move it to 16+ you get the rams game to 4-0 but I remember that rams game week 12 line was all over the place leading up to gametime

     

     

    14 pts, I don't count playoffs only regular season. I haven't looked into the history so maybe 17 pts will work better but I've seen 14 pts used on websites that have had success like FO guts & stomps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    Claw, I was wondering the same question. What’s the blowout margin to get Kc 5-0 and Cin to 2-1? if it’s 17+ then Cin would be 3-1 with this last win at Buf but 2-1 reg season  but I can’t get Kc even close to 5-0 with those perimeters.  At 17 or more it’s 3-0, if you move it to 16+ you get the rams game to 4-0 but I remember that rams game week 12 line was all over the place leading up to gametime

     

     

    14 pts, I don't count playoffs only regular season. I haven't looked into the history so maybe 17 pts will work better but I've seen 14 pts used on websites that have had success like FO guts & stomps.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2023 - 9:26 AM ET #159

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik48:

    @theclaw  How many points defines a blowout win and likewise, a close win?

     

    close wins is 1 score games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik48:

    @theclaw  How many points defines a blowout win and likewise, a close win?

     

    close wins is 1 score games.

     
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    BONUS POINTS ........................................

    65-33 SU in all rounds (66%) since 2008 -2021

    24-11 SU (68.6%) in all rounds as a 5 pt or better fav on my lines past 5 years

    17-5 SU (77.3%) in conference finals as a 5 pt fav or better on my lines since 2008 -2021

    7-3 SU & 7-3 ATS past 5 years in conference finals

    6-3 ATS (66.7%) with a 4.5 diff to closing line

     

    KC -6.06 over Bengals

    9ers -.14 over Eagles

     

    play is on KC

    line would need to go up to KC -2 for no play which is not unreasonable to happen. but we'd still have KC to win SU with over a 5 pt fav on my lines in which case if they win at -2 very likely to cover.

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    BONUS POINTS ........................................

    65-33 SU in all rounds (66%) since 2008 -2021

    24-11 SU (68.6%) in all rounds as a 5 pt or better fav on my lines past 5 years

    17-5 SU (77.3%) in conference finals as a 5 pt fav or better on my lines since 2008 -2021

    7-3 SU & 7-3 ATS past 5 years in conference finals

    6-3 ATS (66.7%) with a 4.5 diff to closing line

     

    KC -6.06 over Bengals

    9ers -.14 over Eagles

     

    play is on KC

    line would need to go up to KC -2 for no play which is not unreasonable to happen. but we'd still have KC to win SU with over a 5 pt fav on my lines in which case if they win at -2 very likely to cover.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2023 - 9:46 AM ET #161

    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units

     

    will pass on Eagles/9ers game, I can't find a edge large enough to warrant a play at least not using my info.

     

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    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units

     

    will pass on Eagles/9ers game, I can't find a edge large enough to warrant a play at least not using my info.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2023 - 3:34 PM ET #162

    I should of mentioned KC's line is based on Mahomes I jury, might've worth how many pts I don't know when comparing to my line.

    KC should win this game unless Mahomes is very limited but doesn't look like that at this time.

     

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    I should of mentioned KC's line is based on Mahomes I jury, might've worth how many pts I don't know when comparing to my line.

    KC should win this game unless Mahomes is very limited but doesn't look like that at this time.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2023 - 4:14 PM ET #163

    POWER RATING I .................................... in conference finals

     

    My Lines ......

    31-13 SU (70.5%) with any lean 

    27-16-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    10-3 ATS w/6 pt diff to closing line

    6 pt home fav or less --- 10-5 SU but 6-9 ATS

    went 2-0 ATS .....8 times

    went 1-1 ATS .....12 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ...1 time

    went 0-2 ATS ......1 time

     

    as we can see my lines doesn't end with a losing record very often just twice in 17 years.

     

    MY LINES ...............................

    Eagles -1.71 over 9ers ...................lean 9ers

    KC -2.58 over Bengals ...................lean KC

     

    we need to adjust my line according to Mahomes injury but reports are he will be 80 to 90%, he has no noticeable limp, and was full participant at practice for a few days or whatever it was. it is a concern obviously but I'll go with the info. 

     

    with both home favs under 6 pt favs the info suggest at least one home team should lose ATS, all the info added together suggests this would be the Eagles.

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    POWER RATING I .................................... in conference finals

     

    My Lines ......

    31-13 SU (70.5%) with any lean 

    27-16-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    10-3 ATS w/6 pt diff to closing line

    6 pt home fav or less --- 10-5 SU but 6-9 ATS

    went 2-0 ATS .....8 times

    went 1-1 ATS .....12 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ...1 time

    went 0-2 ATS ......1 time

     

    as we can see my lines doesn't end with a losing record very often just twice in 17 years.

     

    MY LINES ...............................

    Eagles -1.71 over 9ers ...................lean 9ers

    KC -2.58 over Bengals ...................lean KC

     

    we need to adjust my line according to Mahomes injury but reports are he will be 80 to 90%, he has no noticeable limp, and was full participant at practice for a few days or whatever it was. it is a concern obviously but I'll go with the info. 

     

    with both home favs under 6 pt favs the info suggest at least one home team should lose ATS, all the info added together suggests this would be the Eagles.

     
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    POWER RATING I .................................... in conference finals

     

    My Lines ......

    31-13 SU (70.5%) with any lean 

    27-16-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    10-3 ATS w/6 pt diff to closing line

    6 pt home fav or less --- 10-5 SU but 6-9 ATS

    went 2-0 ATS .....8 times

    went 1-1 ATS .....12 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ...1 time

    went 0-2 ATS ......1 time

     

    as we can see my lines doesn't end with a losing record very often just twice in 17 years.

     

    MY LINES ...............................

    Eagles -1.71 over 9ers ...................lean 9ers

    KC -2.58 over Bengals ...................lean KC

     

    we need to adjust my line according to Mahomes injury but reports are he will be 80 to 90%, he has no noticeable limp, and was full participant at practice for a few days or whatever it was. it is a concern obviously but I'll go with the info. 

    with both home teams under 6 pt favs the info suggests at least one home team should lose ATS , all the info added together suggests the home team to lose ATS is the Eagles

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    POWER RATING I .................................... in conference finals

     

    My Lines ......

    31-13 SU (70.5%) with any lean 

    27-16-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    10-3 ATS w/6 pt diff to closing line

    6 pt home fav or less --- 10-5 SU but 6-9 ATS

    went 2-0 ATS .....8 times

    went 1-1 ATS .....12 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ...1 time

    went 0-2 ATS ......1 time

     

    as we can see my lines doesn't end with a losing record very often just twice in 17 years.

     

    MY LINES ...............................

    Eagles -1.71 over 9ers ...................lean 9ers

    KC -2.58 over Bengals ...................lean KC

     

    we need to adjust my line according to Mahomes injury but reports are he will be 80 to 90%, he has no noticeable limp, and was full participant at practice for a few days or whatever it was. it is a concern obviously but I'll go with the info. 

    with both home teams under 6 pt favs the info suggests at least one home team should lose ATS , all the info added together suggests the home team to lose ATS is the Eagles

     
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    POWER RATING II ................................................in the conference finals

    16-10 SU with my lines fav past 13 years

    15-10-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    3-3 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line

    6-2 ATS with a 2-5.99 lean on my lines

    9-5 ATS with 2 pt diff or better on my lines 

    went 2-0 ATS ,,,,,,,,,4 times

    went 1-1 ATS .........7 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ......1 time

    went 0-2 ATS .........1 time

     

    as we can see PR II does not end with a losing record very often just twice in 13 years

     

    Eagles -2.43 over 9ers

    KC -7.07 over Bengals

    KC would be a lean on my lines over 2 pts and possibly over 6 depending on how the line closes.

    Eagles and 9ers pretty close to the actual line.

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    POWER RATING II ................................................in the conference finals

    16-10 SU with my lines fav past 13 years

    15-10-1 ATS with any lean on my lines

    3-3 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line

    6-2 ATS with a 2-5.99 lean on my lines

    9-5 ATS with 2 pt diff or better on my lines 

    went 2-0 ATS ,,,,,,,,,4 times

    went 1-1 ATS .........7 times

    went 0-1-1 ATS ......1 time

    went 0-2 ATS .........1 time

     

    as we can see PR II does not end with a losing record very often just twice in 13 years

     

    Eagles -2.43 over 9ers

    KC -7.07 over Bengals

    KC would be a lean on my lines over 2 pts and possibly over 6 depending on how the line closes.

    Eagles and 9ers pretty close to the actual line.

     
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    PLAYOFF ONLY POWER RATING I ..........................................

    10-6 ATS all leans

    5-2-1 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line

    2-0 ATS ...... 2 TIMES

    1-1 ATS ......6 times

    no losing records as of yet within past 8 years I have records

     

    Eagles -11.8 over 9ers

    KC -14.21 over Bengals 

    both teams over 6 pt to closing line

     

    PLAYOFF ONLY PR I .....

    Eagles 25.67

    9ers 16.77

    KC 14.21

    Bengals 5.97

    the highest rated team ........ 6-2 SU & 5-1-1 ATS

    lowest rated team .........2-6 SU & 1-6-1 ATS 

    the highest rated team has won the SB in 4 of 8 seasons

    lowest rated team has won SB 1 time (2015 Broncos w/ P Manning) and made the SB 1 other time in 8 years

     

    the evidence continues to mount .........................................

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    PLAYOFF ONLY POWER RATING I ..........................................

    10-6 ATS all leans

    5-2-1 ATS with a 6 pt diff to closing line

    2-0 ATS ...... 2 TIMES

    1-1 ATS ......6 times

    no losing records as of yet within past 8 years I have records

     

    Eagles -11.8 over 9ers

    KC -14.21 over Bengals 

    both teams over 6 pt to closing line

     

    PLAYOFF ONLY PR I .....

    Eagles 25.67

    9ers 16.77

    KC 14.21

    Bengals 5.97

    the highest rated team ........ 6-2 SU & 5-1-1 ATS

    lowest rated team .........2-6 SU & 1-6-1 ATS 

    the highest rated team has won the SB in 4 of 8 seasons

    lowest rated team has won SB 1 time (2015 Broncos w/ P Manning) and made the SB 1 other time in 8 years

     

    the evidence continues to mount .........................................

     
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    A method we used successfully the past couple of years is to take these 3 PR's and through the process of elimination we can determine what needs to happen for each PR not to end with a losing record since they rarely do end with a losing record.

    If 9ers win ATS the first game then KC needs to win ATS for playoff only to finish 1-1 ATS, if Eagles win ATS then KC still needs to win ATS for PR I & II to finish 1-1 ATS .

    KC favored to win ATS in all 3 PR's, the best team 2cd half in total yards improvement over the 1st half while Bengals -13 decline. KC warrants a play in 2 of 3 PR's and in bonus pts as well if line stays -1.5 or less.

    It's all KC in this game .......................................................an_cheers

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    A method we used successfully the past couple of years is to take these 3 PR's and through the process of elimination we can determine what needs to happen for each PR not to end with a losing record since they rarely do end with a losing record.

    If 9ers win ATS the first game then KC needs to win ATS for playoff only to finish 1-1 ATS, if Eagles win ATS then KC still needs to win ATS for PR I & II to finish 1-1 ATS .

    KC favored to win ATS in all 3 PR's, the best team 2cd half in total yards improvement over the 1st half while Bengals -13 decline. KC warrants a play in 2 of 3 PR's and in bonus pts as well if line stays -1.5 or less.

    It's all KC in this game .......................................................an_cheers

     
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    EXPECTED WIN MARGIN .......................................

    using the stat that has the highest correlation to the SB winners margin of victory throughout the playoffs and it's not point margin or any other way to measure points.

    We have 3 teams with lots of points left, meaning they have the potential to win big today and we have 1 team not built for winning big according to this stat. That'd be the Bengals.

    Bengals used up too many points in their big win over the Bills and now have just .8 pts left, less then 1 pt, which means they do not have enough points to win this game by even 1 measly point. Maybe we could round off the .8 to 1 pt, never seen this spot before so I don't know but the way the method works is a team can only win by the amount of points they have left, so Bengals can only win by .8 which is not possible to do.

    While KC has many points left and is a team could win this game big, easily by double digits.

     

    and the evidence continues to mount ..........................................

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    EXPECTED WIN MARGIN .......................................

    using the stat that has the highest correlation to the SB winners margin of victory throughout the playoffs and it's not point margin or any other way to measure points.

    We have 3 teams with lots of points left, meaning they have the potential to win big today and we have 1 team not built for winning big according to this stat. That'd be the Bengals.

    Bengals used up too many points in their big win over the Bills and now have just .8 pts left, less then 1 pt, which means they do not have enough points to win this game by even 1 measly point. Maybe we could round off the .8 to 1 pt, never seen this spot before so I don't know but the way the method works is a team can only win by the amount of points they have left, so Bengals can only win by .8 which is not possible to do.

    While KC has many points left and is a team could win this game big, easily by double digits.

     

    and the evidence continues to mount ..........................................

     
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    A lot of good info peace_5

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    A lot of good info peace_5

     
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    pending plays ..................................

    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units

    Eagles to win NFC & SB

    9ers to win NFC & SB

    Bills to win AFC ................. loser

     

    additional plays ......................

    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units 

    KC -9.5 (+262) over Bengals --- .5 units to win 1.31 units

    (I have KC -1 for 2.2 units in total)

     

     

    KC line hit -2 but now back to -1, once they raise the line getting plenty of Bengals support.

    I was looking for KC -6 or -7 on alternate lines but book doesn't offer that. I think KC wins 7 to 10 pts bare minimum, it won't be a 3 or 4 pt game. So taking a alternate line above 4 pts should be a good play

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    pending plays ..................................

    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units

    Eagles to win NFC & SB

    9ers to win NFC & SB

    Bills to win AFC ................. loser

     

    additional plays ......................

    KC -1 over Bengals --- 1.1 units 

    KC -9.5 (+262) over Bengals --- .5 units to win 1.31 units

    (I have KC -1 for 2.2 units in total)

     

     

    KC line hit -2 but now back to -1, once they raise the line getting plenty of Bengals support.

    I was looking for KC -6 or -7 on alternate lines but book doesn't offer that. I think KC wins 7 to 10 pts bare minimum, it won't be a 3 or 4 pt game. So taking a alternate line above 4 pts should be a good play

     
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    I don't dispute or discredit your methodology but KC will have to show me with my own eyes today. I am the doubting Thomas on this one. Enjoyed your contributions and pondering your results throughout the year. peace_5

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    I don't dispute or discredit your methodology but KC will have to show me with my own eyes today. I am the doubting Thomas on this one. Enjoyed your contributions and pondering your results throughout the year. peace_5

     
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    Claw do the over/unders today also please 

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    I'm really looking forward to both these games today. I couldn't even make a small lean on Eagles/9ers game.

    Everything points to KC though. The really interesting thing about this game is listening to some youtube video's there was a pro talking about how Brady beat all his metrics, he beat mine as well and that is why I came up with bonus pts, specifically to deal with Brady.

    Then he says how many pro's don't know what to do with Burrow because he was beating them in regular season so they jump on the bandwagon and now just blindly back Burrow today.

    Because I was able to find what Brady did consistently well most every season he was at or near the top of the league, so I decided to look into Burrow and see If I could maybe do the same thing and develop a PR to deal with him. However, I don't see anything he does at a very high level the way Brady was so consistent year after year in situational football. 

    Burrow is with question very good in a number of areas but not great the way Brady was, there is nothing I can find that Burrow or his teams do that is top of the league in past 2 years that I could use to build any special meterics for him, well maybe the one thing is number of penalties and penalty yards they are very, very good, but not as good as last year and KC is improved in number of penalties at +11 while Bengals +19 this season, (last year Bengals were like +44) but Bengals much better in yards then KC, so there is one area.

    Since I don't include penalties in my PR's Bengals do have an edge but doutful it would be enough. I may add them in the future as web sites have researched them to be repeatable.

    What I think happens is we find out today that Burrow is not Brady and he comes back to earth pretty darn quick. 

    If Burrow does win, considering how Mahomes does of course I will have to look more into some metrics to deal with him.

    I have faded Brady a number of times in similar spots and have won ATS doing so.

    I find this very interesting that Pro's BLINDLY backing Burrow as though he is Brady.

    If we look at Bengals incredible ATS run past couple of years we see this year Bengals were never more then a -7 fav, nothing like KC or Bills being big favs. But once they got put at -11.5 bingo they don't cover, then in playoffs again over -7 and they don't cover, so the books are catching up on the lines with Bengals. Bengals won't be catching a decent amount of pts as a dog anymore, only +1 VS 9ers or +2 VS Eagles in SB at this time. So they can't lose by a FG and cover any more like they did last year at +4 and losing by a FG to Rams or like they did in regular season this year.

    What goes around comes around and now the Bengals will experience this today. 

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    I'm really looking forward to both these games today. I couldn't even make a small lean on Eagles/9ers game.

    Everything points to KC though. The really interesting thing about this game is listening to some youtube video's there was a pro talking about how Brady beat all his metrics, he beat mine as well and that is why I came up with bonus pts, specifically to deal with Brady.

    Then he says how many pro's don't know what to do with Burrow because he was beating them in regular season so they jump on the bandwagon and now just blindly back Burrow today.

    Because I was able to find what Brady did consistently well most every season he was at or near the top of the league, so I decided to look into Burrow and see If I could maybe do the same thing and develop a PR to deal with him. However, I don't see anything he does at a very high level the way Brady was so consistent year after year in situational football. 

    Burrow is with question very good in a number of areas but not great the way Brady was, there is nothing I can find that Burrow or his teams do that is top of the league in past 2 years that I could use to build any special meterics for him, well maybe the one thing is number of penalties and penalty yards they are very, very good, but not as good as last year and KC is improved in number of penalties at +11 while Bengals +19 this season, (last year Bengals were like +44) but Bengals much better in yards then KC, so there is one area.

    Since I don't include penalties in my PR's Bengals do have an edge but doutful it would be enough. I may add them in the future as web sites have researched them to be repeatable.

    What I think happens is we find out today that Burrow is not Brady and he comes back to earth pretty darn quick. 

    If Burrow does win, considering how Mahomes does of course I will have to look more into some metrics to deal with him.

    I have faded Brady a number of times in similar spots and have won ATS doing so.

    I find this very interesting that Pro's BLINDLY backing Burrow as though he is Brady.

    If we look at Bengals incredible ATS run past couple of years we see this year Bengals were never more then a -7 fav, nothing like KC or Bills being big favs. But once they got put at -11.5 bingo they don't cover, then in playoffs again over -7 and they don't cover, so the books are catching up on the lines with Bengals. Bengals won't be catching a decent amount of pts as a dog anymore, only +1 VS 9ers or +2 VS Eagles in SB at this time. So they can't lose by a FG and cover any more like they did last year at +4 and losing by a FG to Rams or like they did in regular season this year.

    What goes around comes around and now the Bengals will experience this today. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportschat:

    A lot of good info

     

    peace_5 ...... thank you

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