NYG vs 49ers... Lets talk this out...

All that talking by the giants. Can't wait till the giants offense gets punched in the mouth by the 9ers D.


"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth"

                                                        Mike Tyson

How did the Giants do against the Seahawks???

Too bad people like 800Amazon don't have any money to be taken from...44 points...good luck with that...might not be 44 points in the whole game.

LOL who said SF played no one thoughout the year.

They played 5 playoffs teams and went 4-1 people where do people pull this shit from??


Cincy WIN
DET WIN
NYG WIN
BALT LOSS
PITT WIN

I agree with you about this being tough to take a side on, though I'm leaning Giants.

However, I couldn't help but to laugh at what I bolded. Baltimore a complete team? Hell, their defense carries the team as they have hardly have ANY offense. Flacco's a joke. But also on the same note, Pat's offense carries them. Brady can put up enough points to make up for the lack of D.

5 Gift turnovers???  No more drugs 4 u my friend!!! We put players to sleep then take da football... Das how 49rs get they gifts!!!!

Ok Baltimore may not have a great offense but they are not bad.  I mean Ray Rice aint no joke brother.  Yeah Flacco is just a average QB.  But when you have a average QB and the rest of your team is solid to good then its pretty complete.  I mean like you say the Patriots do not have a complete team because they have one of the worst defenses.  But whatever its really a pointless arguement. 

People are making good points for G-men, but I am still with the Niners defense.  But I think the real value is on the under.  I dont know how anyone can predict 44 points out of both teams let alone just the Giants.

That is what I saw! 

 You guys I watched the Orleans vs Niners game again last night and DUDE!!!  Drew Brees is good at what he does.  He moves in the pocket, he takes 12 steps back then steps up into the pocket and hits the open receivers but theyre only open because brees knows how to make time.  Eli is a fucking statue, the dude dont move.  If Niners bring pressure like they did to the Saints then Eli will be knocked out cold like Frenchy last week.

Didnt the Giants get 4 gift turnovers from the Pack

That is what I thought

The hit on Thomas should have been called a helmet to helmet hit and the fumble should have been reversed... all of the other fubmles were not because of hits. they were because of butter fingers.....and the int were because of brees throwing badly, not because of good coverage.... The simple fact that SF was losing with under 2 mins to go after getting 5 turnovers shows me how horrible they really are.... Hell St. Louis beat the saints when they turned the ball over twice... and it was a more definitive win that SF's.... would anyone say St Louis is better than the saints? Well some might, but they are smoking crack... The better team lost last week... it wont happen two weeks in a row.. SF cant be that lucky

At some point in reading all the pages, I started seeing some of the same things said over and over. Some I agree with, some I don't. The one thing I don't understand is how you're saying a wet sloppy field plays into SF's favor? I'm pretty sure NYG is quite used to wet, sloppy fields too on the east coast. I don't see the weather benefiting or hurting one team more than the other.

I do have to agree that the 49ers D is a rougher than NYG's. But as far as offense, there's no way in hell I can jump on the Alex Smith train just because of the Saints game. Eli is hands down the better quarterback, with better weapons at his disposable, and far more capable of putting damn good use to them.

The only real difference maker or X-factor, whatever the fuck you wanna call it, is 49ers special teams, all around, not just their kicker.

Both teams are somewhat evenly matched and I think the game comes down to the little things (as mentioned plenty of times in this thread). Whoever makes the least amount of mistakes, wins the turnover battle, etc.

Going with the better QB here and what I feel is the better all around team. Giants. I don't think the Giants'll blow 49ers out, I can see a close game for the most part with Giants winning by 7-10. Just my two cents, I'm far from the best on here.

I have to agree with ya brother.  As much as I wanna pick a side (which I still will because of my addiction) its a tough one to figure out.  These teams are about as even matched as possible.  Giants edge on offense Niners edge on defense.  Giants have momentum, revenge.  Niners have special teams and home field.  Overall I see a defensive battle though with either team winning by a field goal. 

Maybe be the best strategy would be teasing everything on this day again.   Per....

https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=101243017

But the sloppy field plays in Niners favor HUGE because of one thing.  The big play of the Giants.  They depend on it to win games.  If you can slow these guys down and get pressure on Eli then no big play, no big play then San Fran wins.  You aint beating San Fran by playing small ball with them.

A friendly reminder Niner fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAY_fUOF2HA

I agree with you on everything except for this sloppy field thing. A sloppy field doesn't gaurantee they'll be slowed down. Especially when they have plenty of experience playing in such conditions. Maybe, I'm just on the short bus today and missing something bro. Can you elaborate? Nice convo as well. Nice to see people talking like adults on here instead of people just spewing bullshit in any general direction

Sloppy field can also slow down the speed of the SF defense.

Eli is not his brother i completely disagree on Eli being a statue. Have you watched his games the last few games. Eli's ability to move around in and out of the pocket is why the giants have made it this far. Eli is the most slippery and annoying QB to sack/tackle in the league. I'm with ya on the 9ers but Eli creates big plays with his legs by creating time to throw.

@AJCAcura The better team lost last week... it wont happen two weeks in a row.. SF cant be that lucky. I will say that your right about a team being lucky to win but you picked the wrong team. The team that was lucky to win was the giants with all those gift rapped january christmas presents. The giants need to send the packers a hallmark card.

interesting read:

The Giants certainly have been impressive over their last 4 games but the Saints were riding a 9 game straight up and spread winning streak coming into San Francisco last week and most often the teams that are considered to be the “hot” teams are the worst bets you can make in the playoffs. The Giants’ 37-20 victory at Green Bay last week was impressive but any good team that could manage to be positive in turnovers against the Packers would be expected to win given that the Pack were out-gained for the season and lived on turnovers. San Francisco could also easily lose this game if they’re negative in turnovers but that’s not likely to be the case and the Giants are in a very negative technical spot in this game.

Teams that scored 35 points or more in the divisional round of the playoffs are just 1-10 ATS on the road in the conference championship game and teams that won despite allowing 19 points or more are just 2-17 ATS on the road in the championship game when not getting more than 9 points. The Niners, meanwhile, apply to a 37-8 ATS playoff situation and a 54-18-3 ATS playoff situation that combine to go 14-2 ATS when both apply to the same game (2-0 ATS in the conference championship). San Francisco also applies to a 13-0 ATS conference championship game angle and the Niners are 8-0-1 ATS at home this season with the spread push being a 3 point overtime loss as a 3 point dog (so they covered in that game in regulation). With the technical analysis that strong I’m just looking for the line to be fair and in this case it is.

As I mentioned last week, the Niners’ offense is much better with Adam Snyder starting at right guard than it was in the 4 games that he didn’t start (weeks 1 through 3 and week 12) and San Francisco averaged 6.1 yards per play last week against the Saints, so they’re certainly capable of moving the ball when they need to. I rate San Francisco as average offensively from a yards per play perspective but they’re actually better than average because they run a system that protects the ball (Alex Smith threw only 5 interceptions all season and they have just 1 game in which they committed more than 1 turnover). The Giants’ defense is only 0.1 yards per play better than average for the season but they are clearly better than that now. I decided to use only the 8 games in which all of their defensive linemen were healthy, as they are now, and New York is 0.5 yppl better than average in those 8 games. My math model projects 325 yards at 5.0 yppl for the 49ers in this game.

The Giants’ offense is very good, averaging 6.2 yppl against teams that would combine to allow 5.6 yppl to an average attack, but San Francisco’s defense is 0.5 yppl better than average for the season and that unit did a good job of limiting the Saints to just 5.85 yppl in last week’s win (an average defense would allow 6.5 yppl at home to the Saints). My math model projects 341 yards at 5.6 yppl for the Giants in this game.

New York is clearly better from a yards per play perspective, but the Niners have superior special teams (2 points better than the Giants) and my math model projects a 0.9 turnover advantage for the Niners in this game. That’s much less than their +1.9 average turnover margin but overall the math favors San Francisco by 3 points based on the projected statistics and special teams. A compensated points model would favor San Francisco by 6 ½ points at home without any adjustments, but adjustments need to be made for the difference in actual turnover margins of the two teams (+1.33 in favor of SF) from the projected turnover margin of +0.9 and I also have dock San Francisco for the fact that special teams performance tends to regress towards the mean (they still have a 2 point edge, but that’s less than the difference in season special teams ratings for these two teams). The adjusted points model favors the Niners by 2 ½ points, so the fair line is between 2 ½ and 3 points and that’s where the line is. With the technical analysis so strongly in favor of the Niners,

SF 44-27 hahahahahhaa....geeze that guy is annoying

Another thought.  Giants havent had to face a offense that utilized the RB in the pass game like Niners do lately.  Can the check downs to Gore destroy the Giants.

Dude talk to me.  Do you drive a Cadillac Catera.  If so please let me know I have some solid advice for you as I am a mechanic at a caddy dealer.

Helmet to Helmet hit..............LOL

He's a RB....