Something that gets very little attention but is a game changer is BET SIZING and MONEY MANAGEMENT,both affecting ROI in a big manner. Fine tuning this aspect of wagering MUST be as important as handicapping players,schemes, and modern changes in the NFL.
Agreed but that's an entirely different discussion.
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Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:
Something that gets very little attention but is a game changer is BET SIZING and MONEY MANAGEMENT,both affecting ROI in a big manner. Fine tuning this aspect of wagering MUST be as important as handicapping players,schemes, and modern changes in the NFL.
Agreed but that's an entirely different discussion.
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Using numbers that only go back to 2015 I'm guessing you're about 30 years old. If you handicap like you guess you're a loser, .....don't let your fat ugly ass dent my pretty exit door on your way out. Possible week 1 picks 1) Jacksonville +.....fits a 55-18-1 ATS angle 2) NYJ +.........week 1 away dogs that missed the playoffs playing a team that made the playoffs last season 39-26 ATS,...away non-Thursday week 1 dogs that missed the playoffs LS playing a team that played in at least two playoff games the season prior have gone 12-3 ATS, 8-7 straight up, going 11-2 ATS, 8-5 straight up if the line is less than 10 points. 3) Colts +....there is a 23-7 ATS Hoody angle favoring Indy 4) Titans +.....week 1 away dogs that won 4, 5 or 6 games last season and won less games than their present opponent...61-30-4 ATS 5) Commanders +...... same angle as the Titans' angle...61-30-4 ATS 6) Cardinals +.............75% ATS angle (over 60 game sample size) on Arizona 7) Broncos +...........non-divisional week 1 away dogs playing a team that missed the playoffs last season 42-21, ATS, 22-7-1 ATS if the line is <=+6 8) Falcons -, possibly NYG - (if they are a favorite)....week 1 home favorites that had less wins the previous season than their present week 1 opponent 49-31 ATS
What are the games you're actually playing?
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Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Using numbers that only go back to 2015 I'm guessing you're about 30 years old. If you handicap like you guess you're a loser, .....don't let your fat ugly ass dent my pretty exit door on your way out. Possible week 1 picks 1) Jacksonville +.....fits a 55-18-1 ATS angle 2) NYJ +.........week 1 away dogs that missed the playoffs playing a team that made the playoffs last season 39-26 ATS,...away non-Thursday week 1 dogs that missed the playoffs LS playing a team that played in at least two playoff games the season prior have gone 12-3 ATS, 8-7 straight up, going 11-2 ATS, 8-5 straight up if the line is less than 10 points. 3) Colts +....there is a 23-7 ATS Hoody angle favoring Indy 4) Titans +.....week 1 away dogs that won 4, 5 or 6 games last season and won less games than their present opponent...61-30-4 ATS 5) Commanders +...... same angle as the Titans' angle...61-30-4 ATS 6) Cardinals +.............75% ATS angle (over 60 game sample size) on Arizona 7) Broncos +...........non-divisional week 1 away dogs playing a team that missed the playoffs last season 42-21, ATS, 22-7-1 ATS if the line is <=+6 8) Falcons -, possibly NYG - (if they are a favorite)....week 1 home favorites that had less wins the previous season than their present week 1 opponent 49-31 ATS
Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points.
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Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query:
week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2
ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far).
Good luck everybody.
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Here is a query that favors CLV in week 1:
week = 1 and HD and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2
ATS: 28-14-2 (4.86, 66.7%) Z=2.01
Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points.
*******
Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query:
week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2
ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far).
"in sports betting you should want people to disagree with you!" I disagree with you and am trying to discuss it here in your off-season discussion thread. Jump in any time.
I am basically a contrarian, as it is well known the public at large is a LOSER and since they heavily prefer FAVORITES and OVERS, betting DOGS and UNDERS
should give you a leg up right from the get go. Disagreement leads to VALUE, it is that simple, so I DISAGREE with you.....lol
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Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues:
"in sports betting you should want people to disagree with you!" I disagree with you and am trying to discuss it here in your off-season discussion thread. Jump in any time.
I am basically a contrarian, as it is well known the public at large is a LOSER and since they heavily prefer FAVORITES and OVERS, betting DOGS and UNDERS
should give you a leg up right from the get go. Disagreement leads to VALUE, it is that simple, so I DISAGREE with you.....lol
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: "in sports betting you should want people to disagree with you!" I disagree with you and am trying to discuss it here in your off-season discussion thread. Jump in any time. I am basically a contrarian, as it is well known the public at large is a LOSER and since they heavily prefer FAVORITES and OVERS, betting DOGS and UNDERS should give you a leg up right from the get go. Disagreement leads to VALUE, it is that simple, so I DISAGREE with you.....lol
What I would like to discuss is the querires portion of this thread but I do agree that being a contrarian is a key to success.
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Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: "in sports betting you should want people to disagree with you!" I disagree with you and am trying to discuss it here in your off-season discussion thread. Jump in any time. I am basically a contrarian, as it is well known the public at large is a LOSER and since they heavily prefer FAVORITES and OVERS, betting DOGS and UNDERS should give you a leg up right from the get go. Disagreement leads to VALUE, it is that simple, so I DISAGREE with you.....lol
What I would like to discuss is the querires portion of this thread but I do agree that being a contrarian is a key to success.
@jowchoo any good queries regarding teasing larger favorites and week 1 stats?
My contrarian anchor teaser system starts week 4. Early teasers will revolve around rookie qbs who win starting roles with their clubs.
I will use Vegas' projected scoring in those games to direct my teaser.If Vegas projects a rookie led team to get less than 17 pts, I will tease
the other team down. Rookie qbs who score less than 17 pts are (56-218) ats and that is without the teaser pts. If Vegas projects the rookie led team to score
to score more than 17, I will tease that team. (251-95) ats that's without the teaser insurance.
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Quote Originally Posted by DeLoreanStylez:
@jowchoo any good queries regarding teasing larger favorites and week 1 stats?
My contrarian anchor teaser system starts week 4. Early teasers will revolve around rookie qbs who win starting roles with their clubs.
I will use Vegas' projected scoring in those games to direct my teaser.If Vegas projects a rookie led team to get less than 17 pts, I will tease
the other team down. Rookie qbs who score less than 17 pts are (56-218) ats and that is without the teaser pts. If Vegas projects the rookie led team to score
to score more than 17, I will tease that team. (251-95) ats that's without the teaser insurance.
TOTAL silence from the guy who started this thread. I guess he only likes to "discuss" things when he's doing the talking and everyone else is listening.
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TOTAL silence from the guy who started this thread. I guess he only likes to "discuss" things when he's doing the talking and everyone else is listening.
What sample size do you consider viable to bet on? You could have a 12-2 scenario that is ultimately just noise or overfitting data. I do similar capping to you, but prefer to find higher sample scenarios, usually over 150 games that hit over 60% vs closing line.
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What sample size do you consider viable to bet on? You could have a 12-2 scenario that is ultimately just noise or overfitting data. I do similar capping to you, but prefer to find higher sample scenarios, usually over 150 games that hit over 60% vs closing line.
Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Using numbers that only go back to 2015 I'm guessing you're about 30 years old. If you handicap like you guess you're a loser, .....don't let your fat ugly ass dent my pretty exit door on your way out. Possible week 1 picks 1) Jacksonville +.....fits a 55-18-1 ATS angle 2) NYJ +.........week 1 away dogs that missed the playoffs playing a team that made the playoffs last season 39-26 ATS,...away non-Thursday week 1 dogs that missed the playoffs LS playing a team that played in at least two playoff games the season prior have gone 12-3 ATS, 8-7 straight up, going 11-2 ATS, 8-5 straight up if the line is less than 10 points. 3) Colts +....there is a 23-7 ATS Hoody angle favoring Indy 4) Titans +.....week 1 away dogs that won 4, 5 or 6 games last season and won less games than their present opponent...61-30-4 ATS 5) Commanders +...... same angle as the Titans' angle...61-30-4 ATS 6) Cardinals +.............75% ATS angle (over 60 game sample size) on Arizona 7) Broncos +...........non-divisional week 1 away dogs playing a team that missed the playoffs last season 42-21, ATS, 22-7-1 ATS if the line is <=+6 8) Falcons -, possibly NYG - (if they are a favorite)....week 1 home favorites that had less wins the previous season than their present week 1 opponent 49-31 ATS On today's episode of ESPN Bet Live Erin Dolan aired this fade SF nugget: In week 1 last season's Super Bowl losers are just 5-19 ATS.
If you actually look at the results you will see that Super Bowl runner-ups have gone 5-2 SU & 3-4 ATS in week one the last seven seasons.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Using numbers that only go back to 2015 I'm guessing you're about 30 years old. If you handicap like you guess you're a loser, .....don't let your fat ugly ass dent my pretty exit door on your way out. Possible week 1 picks 1) Jacksonville +.....fits a 55-18-1 ATS angle 2) NYJ +.........week 1 away dogs that missed the playoffs playing a team that made the playoffs last season 39-26 ATS,...away non-Thursday week 1 dogs that missed the playoffs LS playing a team that played in at least two playoff games the season prior have gone 12-3 ATS, 8-7 straight up, going 11-2 ATS, 8-5 straight up if the line is less than 10 points. 3) Colts +....there is a 23-7 ATS Hoody angle favoring Indy 4) Titans +.....week 1 away dogs that won 4, 5 or 6 games last season and won less games than their present opponent...61-30-4 ATS 5) Commanders +...... same angle as the Titans' angle...61-30-4 ATS 6) Cardinals +.............75% ATS angle (over 60 game sample size) on Arizona 7) Broncos +...........non-divisional week 1 away dogs playing a team that missed the playoffs last season 42-21, ATS, 22-7-1 ATS if the line is <=+6 8) Falcons -, possibly NYG - (if they are a favorite)....week 1 home favorites that had less wins the previous season than their present week 1 opponent 49-31 ATS On today's episode of ESPN Bet Live Erin Dolan aired this fade SF nugget: In week 1 last season's Super Bowl losers are just 5-19 ATS.
If you actually look at the results you will see that Super Bowl runner-ups have gone 5-2 SU & 3-4 ATS in week one the last seven seasons.
Here is a query that favors CLV in week 1: week = 1 and HD and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 28-14-2 (4.86, 66.7%) Z=2.01 Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points. ******* Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query: week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far). Good luck everybody.
Of all the teams with 11 wins or more the Browns have the most regression Indictators against them. And there opp, Dallas has zero against them.
Browns were like 6-2 in close wins.
Both Dallas and the 9ers have no regression against, same as last season.
I haven't run everything just yet but I'd be careful fading those 2 teams.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
Here is a query that favors CLV in week 1: week = 1 and HD and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 28-14-2 (4.86, 66.7%) Z=2.01 Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points. ******* Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query: week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far). Good luck everybody.
Of all the teams with 11 wins or more the Browns have the most regression Indictators against them. And there opp, Dallas has zero against them.
Browns were like 6-2 in close wins.
Both Dallas and the 9ers have no regression against, same as last season.
I haven't run everything just yet but I'd be careful fading those 2 teams.
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Here is a query that favors CLV in week 1: week = 1 and HD and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 28-14-2 (4.86, 66.7%) Z=2.01 Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points. ******* Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query: week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far). Good luck everybody. Of all the teams with 11 wins or more the Browns have the most regression Indictators against them. And there opp, Dallas has zero against them. Browns were like 6-2 in close wins. Both Dallas and the 9ers have no regression against, same as last season. I haven't run everything just yet but I'd be careful fading those 2 teams.
Yes, that's why CLV's RSWL is only 8.5 at Heritage, and a small dog in Week 1 hosting DAL. Most 11-wins teams are not home dogs in Week 1. The regression is built into both lines.
I am NOT a fundamental handicapper, so I have absolutely no idea what to expect from oft-injured DeShaun Watson, especially in Week 1. However, CLV did use 5 QBs last season (a record for any NFL playoff team), and DSW should be more productive than all of last season's scrubs.
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Here is a query that favors CLV in week 1: week = 1 and HD and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 28-14-2 (4.86, 66.7%) Z=2.01 Week 1 Home Dogs on the road (Away) next week with a next week's projected line of -3 to +3 points are 28-14-2 ATS with an average ATS margin of plus 4.86 points. ******* Since CLV is currently just a 1 point dog in week 1 per Heritage Sports, I'll use the same pointspread that I'm using for week 2 (CLV is a 1 point dog at JAX in week 2 per Scores and Odds) in this adjusted query: week = 1 and H and -3.2 < line < 3.2 and n:A and -3.2 < n:line < 3.2 ATS: 37-23-4 (3.90, 61.7%) Z=1.68, which is nowhere near the 1.96 Z-value to provide a coefficient of certainty at 95%. However, the ATS margin is still nearly +4 so I am inclined to make a one-unit wager (idle so far). Good luck everybody. Of all the teams with 11 wins or more the Browns have the most regression Indictators against them. And there opp, Dallas has zero against them. Browns were like 6-2 in close wins. Both Dallas and the 9ers have no regression against, same as last season. I haven't run everything just yet but I'd be careful fading those 2 teams.
Yes, that's why CLV's RSWL is only 8.5 at Heritage, and a small dog in Week 1 hosting DAL. Most 11-wins teams are not home dogs in Week 1. The regression is built into both lines.
I am NOT a fundamental handicapper, so I have absolutely no idea what to expect from oft-injured DeShaun Watson, especially in Week 1. However, CLV did use 5 QBs last season (a record for any NFL playoff team), and DSW should be more productive than all of last season's scrubs.
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