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after the CJ fumble, the seattle guy clearly bats the ball out of the end zone.  he's saying this is an illegal bat which would have given detroit first and goal at the one foot line.  if true, good job refs. 
 
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I thought it was an illegal play. But it benefited my bet so I will take it.
 
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Feel bad for the guy who put a bunch on the LIons ML.
 
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best part is when they showed the replay, the ref is staring right at the nfl guy hitting the ball out of the end zone.  i guess it seemed legit to him. 
 
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Young, Dilfer, Lewis brought up good point about muff-handled ball batted out of bound by punters never been call for that.
 
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this guy:


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Quote Originally Posted by gmitran:

Young, Dilfer, Lewis brought up good point about muff-handled ball batted out of bound by punters never been call for that.


It's been called before. I have seen it. They made the rule so it won't get done. But coaches would rather take that penalty than a TD. It's usually on punts, a safety is better than a TD.
 
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Kam's play was much bigger than any stupid batting of a ball that was already going out and the player could have just pretended to be going after it.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:



It's been called before. I have seen it. They made the rule so it won't get done. But coaches would rather take that penalty than a TD. It's usually on punts, a safety is better than a TD.


I don't see why a safety is better than a TD.
 
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Where's the link to that rule.

I've seen onsides kicks where the defending team pushes the ball out, I've never seen a penalty on it it's always called a good play
 
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Calvin Johnson COST the Lions the game.. no the refs.


 
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kam definitely made a huge play.  but the fact is, detroit should have had the ball first and goal within inches of the goalline if the refs didn't have their heads up their fools.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

Where's the link to that rule.

I've seen onsides kicks where the defending team pushes the ball out, I've never seen a penalty on it it's always called a good play


i don't know.  i'm just going by what the retired ref and these other people on espn are saying.  of course, it's espn so probably 50/50 it's wrong.
 
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SVP gave a good reason on maybe why it wasn't call before.  The punting team had possession last so that's why it not a penalty.  In this case, Det had possession last.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LOLKNBR:

Calvin Johnson COST the Lions the game.. no the refs.




He didn't cost the game, Kam made the play to win the game!!!  Big difference.
 
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 He didn't bat it, he was trying to grab it and it banked of his open hand!!!!!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

Where's the link to that rule.

I've seen onsides kicks where the defending team pushes the ball out, I've never seen a penalty on it it's always called a good play


That's batting out of sideline vs. out of end zone.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

Where's the link to that rule.

I've seen onsides kicks where the defending team pushes the ball out, I've never seen a penalty on it it's always called a good play

Head of officiating Blandino just called in on nfl network and said there should have been a penalty for batting the ball out.  who watches svp, i switched right over to nfl network.
 
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yeah, i don't think there is any doubt the refs fucked it up.

even if they got it right, caldwell and detroit probably would have fucked it up anyway. 
 
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Lions are losers who find ways to lose. FCK em, and fck the rules, and fck the whole stink in game
 
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Yet last week in the Denver game they decided that Stafford was pulling his arm back in towards himself when the ball came out after a forward throwing motion.

And CJ didn't get hit helmet to helmet by Kam but instead it was a 15 harder on an offensive lineman for touching a guy on the ground.

I don't usually whine about refs or cry fix, and I had +10 so it's not my wallet talking, but it seems like the Lions never get calls no matter where they play.

Last week they had to challenge at least 2 blown calls and get them reversed if I remember correctly, and they weren't even close.
 
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ESPN dot com has it on the front page so I guess it really is illegal. That's effed up.

 
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Illegal? I came up on this one. Under 26.5 live in-game bet.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by pdouble:

these primetime games have become jokes, i mean the nfl isn't even trying to hide the fact that these games are manipulated, it gets more and more blatant every year

So, who in Vegas contacted Kam Chancellor on the field to tell him he better get his behind in gear to knock out that ball because Vegas called for it? and did that same person contact the refs?

 

 
 
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know the rule. defense team cant bat the ball. only offense team can. ref didn't know the rule. simple as that because he was looking right at it
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