So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
this was not a tie ball. defender clearly had it with tate holding on with one arm trying to grab it..
But only until one foot was down? Then it was tied up?
this was not a tie ball. defender clearly had it with tate holding on with one arm trying to grab it..
But only until one foot was down? Then it was tied up?
Reaching a hand in and touching the ball while another player catches it doesn't give you a share of the pessession of the ball. "Simultaneous possession" is a term referring to a very rare occurance when it cannot be determined which player caught the ball out of the air. How often is there a simultaneous posession ruling? and how often do receivers make catches and d players make interceptions when the opposing player gets a hand in and touches the ball. I can't believe this argument
Reaching a hand in and touching the ball while another player catches it doesn't give you a share of the pessession of the ball. "Simultaneous possession" is a term referring to a very rare occurance when it cannot be determined which player caught the ball out of the air. How often is there a simultaneous posession ruling? and how often do receivers make catches and d players make interceptions when the opposing player gets a hand in and touches the ball. I can't believe this argument
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
and if you look at the point when Tate's feet hit the ground on the way down his hand loses touch with the ball. Landing on teh ground jolts his whole body and he adjust his gripm which wasnt even a grip to begin with really. His hand slips off the ball at that point in time.
IF this is true, then I concede.
But I havent seen this to be true, and I challenge you to prove it is. I see Tates hand on the ball the WHOLE TIME.
and if you look at the point when Tate's feet hit the ground on the way down his hand loses touch with the ball. Landing on teh ground jolts his whole body and he adjust his gripm which wasnt even a grip to begin with really. His hand slips off the ball at that point in time.
IF this is true, then I concede.
But I havent seen this to be true, and I challenge you to prove it is. I see Tates hand on the ball the WHOLE TIME.
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
Why he is retired now...game passed him by
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
Why he is retired now...game passed him by
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
CD - Jeesh. You must have lost money tonight.
I am interpreting what I saw. I dont know any more than anyone else. Quit attacking. Read my posts. They are very objective. I lost money on the play - Im just calling it like I see it and understand it.
This one is not black and white.
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
CD - Jeesh. You must have lost money tonight.
I am interpreting what I saw. I dont know any more than anyone else. Quit attacking. Read my posts. They are very objective. I lost money on the play - Im just calling it like I see it and understand it.
This one is not black and white.
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
So Van, your telling us that you know the rulebook better then jerry austin who ref for 25 years and was one of the most respected refs in the game?
He cleared explained who caught the ball and why it was an int.
But hey what does jerry austin know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtYeeFpPPz0
around the 16 second mark you clearly see Tates right hand come off Jennings ARM (he never had the actual ball) then you see him swipe and try to grab it.
NEXT
That is his SECOND HAND.
Jeesh. For the 100th time, we are talking about the FIRST HAND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtYeeFpPPz0
around the 16 second mark you clearly see Tates right hand come off Jennings ARM (he never had the actual ball) then you see him swipe and try to grab it.
NEXT
That is his SECOND HAND.
Jeesh. For the 100th time, we are talking about the FIRST HAND.
WRONG
both NFL Network and ESPN clearly showed replays where Tates right hand/arm is on Jennings arm.
You clearly have not seen a good/any replay of this situation. You are so far off base it's not even funny.
Seriously. For the last time, look at his OTHER HAND. Thats what we are talkign about here. HIS LEFT HAND.
WRONG
both NFL Network and ESPN clearly showed replays where Tates right hand/arm is on Jennings arm.
You clearly have not seen a good/any replay of this situation. You are so far off base it's not even funny.
Seriously. For the last time, look at his OTHER HAND. Thats what we are talkign about here. HIS LEFT HAND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtYeeFpPPz0
around the 16 second mark you clearly see Tates right hand come off Jennings ARM (he never had the actual ball) then you see him swipe and try to grab it.
NEXT
That is his SECOND HAND.
Jeesh. For the 100th time, we are talking about the FIRST HAND.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtYeeFpPPz0
around the 16 second mark you clearly see Tates right hand come off Jennings ARM (he never had the actual ball) then you see him swipe and try to grab it.
NEXT
That is his SECOND HAND.
Jeesh. For the 100th time, we are talking about the FIRST HAND.
Danny -
That was the argument from post #1.
Welcome to the party. Glad you are caught up.
Tates hand was between Jennings chest and the ball the whole time.
Danny -
That was the argument from post #1.
Welcome to the party. Glad you are caught up.
Tates hand was between Jennings chest and the ball the whole time.
lmfaoooooooooooo so jerry austin explaining exactly what was happening, was him just making up bullshit for espn.
you guys are really cracking me up tonight.
Van nobody is attacking you. What you saw on your tv and what jerry austin saw were the same things {he probably also saw even more angles that tv didnt show, but thats beside the point}
lets just say you both saw the exact same replays, how can you sit here and basically say your right and a guy who did this for 25 years is basically wrong?
lmfaoooooooooooo so jerry austin explaining exactly what was happening, was him just making up bullshit for espn.
you guys are really cracking me up tonight.
Van nobody is attacking you. What you saw on your tv and what jerry austin saw were the same things {he probably also saw even more angles that tv didnt show, but thats beside the point}
lets just say you both saw the exact same replays, how can you sit here and basically say your right and a guy who did this for 25 years is basically wrong?
Ohhhhh
you think that Tate has his left hanf solidly grasping the ball when Jennings is holding it to his chest.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OK now I get it
You are just trolling now.
Looks kinda like it
Ohhhhh
you think that Tate has his left hanf solidly grasping the ball when Jennings is holding it to his chest.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OK now I get it
You are just trolling now.
Looks kinda like it
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
Having an arm on the ball is not possession. I can't believe there are so many people that can't grasp the rule
Lets be serious Deezy. Come on. You cant tell that he has "an arm on the ball".
His hand is not visible. It is between the chest and the ball.
If you want to make the case that his position wasnt good enough for your definition of possession, that is valid. But dont tell me that his arm was just touching the ball.
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