Who you got tonight Si1ly? I think your sheet is on point. Den -6.5 and under 55.
Denver steps up their D and the Saints struggle in the mile high stadium. Air is thin up there, they're used to playing below sea level. Obviously this isn't enough for justification. I think if Graham is out, I'm for sure leaning Den -6.5 and Under 55.
Thoughts?
If I play anything I'll play Denver -6 (-115)
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Quote Originally Posted by pcz:
Who you got tonight Si1ly? I think your sheet is on point. Den -6.5 and under 55.
Denver steps up their D and the Saints struggle in the mile high stadium. Air is thin up there, they're used to playing below sea level. Obviously this isn't enough for justification. I think if Graham is out, I'm for sure leaning Den -6.5 and Under 55.
Have you ever seen a Book that if you push 1 side of tease and win the other then it's a loss. My guy is trying to say that is deal..
That's the deal with my local that offers the 6 (+100) 6.5 (-110) and 7 (-120). I guess that's his way of adding the extra juice to the tease. I wouldn't say that's common, but I've been cashed out of offshores for a couple years now so I can't really speak for the whole market. If your book posts wager rules anywhere that says TIES LOSE for teasers, then the matter is irrefutable.
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Quote Originally Posted by Fry888:
Have you ever seen a Book that if you push 1 side of tease and win the other then it's a loss. My guy is trying to say that is deal..
That's the deal with my local that offers the 6 (+100) 6.5 (-110) and 7 (-120). I guess that's his way of adding the extra juice to the tease. I wouldn't say that's common, but I've been cashed out of offshores for a couple years now so I can't really speak for the whole market. If your book posts wager rules anywhere that says TIES LOSE for teasers, then the matter is irrefutable.
Who you got tonight Si1ly? I think your sheet is on point. Den -6.5 and under 55.
Denver steps up their D and the Saints struggle in the mile high stadium. Air is thin up there, they're used to playing below sea level. Obviously this isn't enough for justification. I think if Graham is out, I'm for sure leaning Den -6.5 and Under 55.
Thoughts?
pcz, nice hit on your parlay
Teasing Denver and under 61 looks good. Denver knows to keep keep the ball away from Brees hands so they'll probably run more to kill time and plenty of short passes. I'm leaning on the teaser but having a hard time to pull the trigger!
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Quote Originally Posted by pcz:
Who you got tonight Si1ly? I think your sheet is on point. Den -6.5 and under 55.
Denver steps up their D and the Saints struggle in the mile high stadium. Air is thin up there, they're used to playing below sea level. Obviously this isn't enough for justification. I think if Graham is out, I'm for sure leaning Den -6.5 and Under 55.
Thoughts?
pcz, nice hit on your parlay
Teasing Denver and under 61 looks good. Denver knows to keep keep the ball away from Brees hands so they'll probably run more to kill time and plenty of short passes. I'm leaning on the teaser but having a hard time to pull the trigger!
Teasing Denver and under 61 looks good. Denver knows to keep keep the ball away from Brees hands so they'll probably run more to kill time and plenty of short passes. I'm leaning on the teaser but having a hard time to pull the trigger!
I'm scared of this total. Its this high for a reason. Nobody is playing the quarterback position better than Brees right now. But no secondary is worse than New Orleans and Denver has had two weeks to prepare to exploit it. Hard to take any sort of under in this game. I'm just leaning Denver at the moment, the total is toxic, as they say.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigLick08:
pcz, nice hit on your parlay
Teasing Denver and under 61 looks good. Denver knows to keep keep the ball away from Brees hands so they'll probably run more to kill time and plenty of short passes. I'm leaning on the teaser but having a hard time to pull the trigger!
I'm scared of this total. Its this high for a reason. Nobody is playing the quarterback position better than Brees right now. But no secondary is worse than New Orleans and Denver has had two weeks to prepare to exploit it. Hard to take any sort of under in this game. I'm just leaning Denver at the moment, the total is toxic, as they say.
I'm scared of this total. Its this high for a reason. Nobody is playing the quarterback position better than Brees right now. But no secondary is worse than New Orleans and Denver has had two weeks to prepare to exploit it. Hard to take any sort of under in this game. I'm just leaning Denver at the moment, the total is toxic, as they say.
Your opinion is well noted. So, Denver -.5 and SF -1 it is. My bookie week cut off is Sunday. As much as I like to get pay next week I rather pick winners. Thanks Si1ly!
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Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:
I'm scared of this total. Its this high for a reason. Nobody is playing the quarterback position better than Brees right now. But no secondary is worse than New Orleans and Denver has had two weeks to prepare to exploit it. Hard to take any sort of under in this game. I'm just leaning Denver at the moment, the total is toxic, as they say.
Your opinion is well noted. So, Denver -.5 and SF -1 it is. My bookie week cut off is Sunday. As much as I like to get pay next week I rather pick winners. Thanks Si1ly!
I made an error in my original SF@ARI sheet. I had an incorrect number listed for RPI Yards per Play. This did have an effect on the output of the model which originally had tonight's game lined at -3.5. After making the correction and rerunning the game through the model I got a new line of SF -5.5 and 34.5. I don't think many of you were leaning on Arizona so I doubt this news does anything but further everyone's confidence in the 49ers. I don't think they're quite good enough offensively to lay over a touchdown on the road in a divisional game... but they're the clear favorites on paper. The revised sheet is posted in the Week 8 Breakdown Sheets folder. It is unlikely that I play a side in this game, but I may still play the under.
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I made an error in my original SF@ARI sheet. I had an incorrect number listed for RPI Yards per Play. This did have an effect on the output of the model which originally had tonight's game lined at -3.5. After making the correction and rerunning the game through the model I got a new line of SF -5.5 and 34.5. I don't think many of you were leaning on Arizona so I doubt this news does anything but further everyone's confidence in the 49ers. I don't think they're quite good enough offensively to lay over a touchdown on the road in a divisional game... but they're the clear favorites on paper. The revised sheet is posted in the Week 8 Breakdown Sheets folder. It is unlikely that I play a side in this game, but I may still play the under.
I made an error in my original SF@ARI sheet. I had an incorrect number listed for RPI Yards per Play. This did have an effect on the output of the model which originally had tonight's game lined at -3.5. After making the correction and rerunning the game through the model I got a new line of SF -5.5 and 34.5. I don't think many of you were leaning on Arizona so I doubt this news does anything but further everyone's confidence in the 49ers. I don't think they're quite good enough offensively to lay over a touchdown on the road in a divisional game... but they're the clear favorites on paper. The revised sheet is posted in the Week 8 Breakdown Sheets folder. It is unlikely that I play a side in this game, but I may still play the under.
I'm playing the under with mild confidence tonight. Of course, I'm one game back for the monthly contest on Survivor as well so I'm forced to make some kind of play. It looks like a decent play if the Cards don't turn the balls over like fucking idiots. That's really my concern because both teams will likely grind the clock down.
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Quote Originally Posted by si1ly:
I made an error in my original SF@ARI sheet. I had an incorrect number listed for RPI Yards per Play. This did have an effect on the output of the model which originally had tonight's game lined at -3.5. After making the correction and rerunning the game through the model I got a new line of SF -5.5 and 34.5. I don't think many of you were leaning on Arizona so I doubt this news does anything but further everyone's confidence in the 49ers. I don't think they're quite good enough offensively to lay over a touchdown on the road in a divisional game... but they're the clear favorites on paper. The revised sheet is posted in the Week 8 Breakdown Sheets folder. It is unlikely that I play a side in this game, but I may still play the under.
I'm playing the under with mild confidence tonight. Of course, I'm one game back for the monthly contest on Survivor as well so I'm forced to make some kind of play. It looks like a decent play if the Cards don't turn the balls over like fucking idiots. That's really my concern because both teams will likely grind the clock down.
I do like SF a bunch here as well and its a 7 pt spread ......SF is off consecutive offensive clunkers but they left points off the board and vs IMO what was better defenses....Alex Smith may have had an issue w the finger , which was a big deal supposedly then wasnt a big deal , etc.......who knows what to believe but I liked how SF moved the ball vs SEA just didnt finish well (esp after the half)+ nice layoff to get healthy (Manningham as well) ........Vernon Davis shutout last game expect him to get the ball or for SF to try ......so they arent the 30 + team they have been at times and they are not the team struggling to get to DD 's either they are in between (yet have not really played a game yet in that lower to mid 20's range yet)
you look at SF wins 30,27 , 34 , 45 and then 13 vs SEA......so when they have won they have found ways to put points on the board and I know its not all due to the offense but the points are there(somehow, some way , etc....we know the defense and special teams can aide them) .....next is if both consecutive wins this year they laid eggs offensively ......2 good totals then @ Minny , 2 good totals then vs NYG , BUT now 2 low scoring totals for them (consistently inconsistent) .......I think the common factor is when they scored a bunch of points but they had a bunch gift wrapped and the last 2 weeks no easy points and missed opps sort of balanced it out .......
from a perception point all saw them win 13-6 vs SEA and all the Alex Smith stuff gets brought up as usual and I mentioned a lot of my reasoning playing det and Chicago overs today was because of the "taste" it probably left in the mouth of gamblers on Monday (but I had that under)......
you look at Arizona and besides the game @ STL they scored at least 14 points in every other game.......looking @ the Vikes game some will say they were lucky to get 14 but they self destructed as well .....missed FG before the half , turnovers , the shody OL play + sacks , and like 9 penalties = ouch (hard to believe it will be worse then that at home even if SF D is better ) ........still Skelton and LRSH had a nice day on the ground but also a week after Powell ran well.......so some things could be coming together. Skelton did win the job and was sort of pressed back into unexpected duty when Kolb got hurt so think he was rusty somewhat ........you look at how some drives ended in Minny.....1st and 10 at the Vikes 14 = nada , 1st and 10 at the Vikes 26 ....sacked on 4th down inside the 15 =nada , punted on 4th and 2 at the vikes 40 ........
a big thing w Minny is they didnt really try once they had a lead to do anything on offense and that makes Arizona D look MUCH MUCH better then it really is .....buffalo and STL before them not exactly dynamic offenses for the Arizona D ......Phins had 21 and Tannehill had a huge day , Seattle had 16 and 9 cracks to win the game inside the 5 yard line late and couldnt , Pats just 18 at home but that was another fluky game where the missed FG at the end came after a TD was called back plus the sloppy play before then......best effort was vs Philly and a late pick 6 before half changed the course of that game.......
so what I am saying is Arizona defense is surviving by the skin of it's teeth all season and while SF may be no offensive upgrade over some previous opps ........I like the timing of it .....especially since Arizona has played w injuries to its defense lately and managed to sort of not skip a beat .....think its an illusion to a degree ......and if some of those guys come back I expect rust or rushing back and not as effective as they normally would be .....
Zona run defense ....30c 160 yds vs Buffalo , Miami 21c 80 yds if you exclude Thomas and Lane w 7c for 6 yards , Eagles 17 c 98 yards, Seattle 25c 95 yards .......so basically they are at best avg vs the run and that's what sets up the SF offense ...which allows me to be confident in a SF offense that has scored 16 pts last 2 games.....
and if you want to give a nod to past history then SF has only scored less then 20 vs Arizona two times in last 10 meetings a 13 pt effort and the 19 the last they met in ZOna........and really the only time Arizona held teams to less then 17 was Wilson's debut w 16 and couldnt get that last scored down 4 and the Eagles who self destruct like clockwork with 6 .....
so I am fairly confident that SF is cracking 20 and Arizona is at 14 but since I think SF covers becomes more like I am comfortable w 23-24 SF to 14 ........now SF defense has been great after a LOSS not allowing a TD I believe under Harbaugh....so that accounts for 2 of the low scoring defensive efforts and Buffalo had chances but blew it so reiterates my comfort thinking Arizona gets to 14 or more...
I think SF defense is good but I think Arizona's is more just above avg which means at times they will allow points ......(but they really haven't YET)
and Arizona is the same team week in and week out but there totals have not really dipped below 40 yet .......at home just the 38.5 vs Miami which found a way to go over w OT ....I see Vernon Davis as someone who could have a day ......
last year in Arizona the key was SF kicked 3 Fgs from inside the Zona 10 yard line ....9 pts rather then 21 in a game they had 19 points......(hence easily could have been in that 23-24 range or more like I expect and Skelton played in that game)
so in conclusion basically I see it as a game that really worst case should be around 23/24 SF to Arizona 14 and I disagree w the perception of Arizona's defense being very good .....SF should run the ball and w a healthier WR group + IMO a POINT of emphasis getting Vernon Davis involved .....also think SF being on MNF , vs a divisional foe , long layoff and need to make a statement after 2 offensive clunkers......guess like SNF were a shoot out was expected and I didnt see it like that , a low scoring game is expected here with 1 difference being I knew McGahee was going to have a day on the ground w SF not sure who is going to step up but guessing its Vernon Davis .......Fitz has had some days vs SF so he is the guy obviously for Arizona who has my confidence but since he is an all pro thats not exactly a news flash when there is not much else surrounding him .......
so also like the SF TT over .....and 1st H over
think its time for the ARIZONA D to pay the piper and borrowed time usually comes up w a mountain of interest
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I do like SF a bunch here as well and its a 7 pt spread ......SF is off consecutive offensive clunkers but they left points off the board and vs IMO what was better defenses....Alex Smith may have had an issue w the finger , which was a big deal supposedly then wasnt a big deal , etc.......who knows what to believe but I liked how SF moved the ball vs SEA just didnt finish well (esp after the half)+ nice layoff to get healthy (Manningham as well) ........Vernon Davis shutout last game expect him to get the ball or for SF to try ......so they arent the 30 + team they have been at times and they are not the team struggling to get to DD 's either they are in between (yet have not really played a game yet in that lower to mid 20's range yet)
you look at SF wins 30,27 , 34 , 45 and then 13 vs SEA......so when they have won they have found ways to put points on the board and I know its not all due to the offense but the points are there(somehow, some way , etc....we know the defense and special teams can aide them) .....next is if both consecutive wins this year they laid eggs offensively ......2 good totals then @ Minny , 2 good totals then vs NYG , BUT now 2 low scoring totals for them (consistently inconsistent) .......I think the common factor is when they scored a bunch of points but they had a bunch gift wrapped and the last 2 weeks no easy points and missed opps sort of balanced it out .......
from a perception point all saw them win 13-6 vs SEA and all the Alex Smith stuff gets brought up as usual and I mentioned a lot of my reasoning playing det and Chicago overs today was because of the "taste" it probably left in the mouth of gamblers on Monday (but I had that under)......
you look at Arizona and besides the game @ STL they scored at least 14 points in every other game.......looking @ the Vikes game some will say they were lucky to get 14 but they self destructed as well .....missed FG before the half , turnovers , the shody OL play + sacks , and like 9 penalties = ouch (hard to believe it will be worse then that at home even if SF D is better ) ........still Skelton and LRSH had a nice day on the ground but also a week after Powell ran well.......so some things could be coming together. Skelton did win the job and was sort of pressed back into unexpected duty when Kolb got hurt so think he was rusty somewhat ........you look at how some drives ended in Minny.....1st and 10 at the Vikes 14 = nada , 1st and 10 at the Vikes 26 ....sacked on 4th down inside the 15 =nada , punted on 4th and 2 at the vikes 40 ........
a big thing w Minny is they didnt really try once they had a lead to do anything on offense and that makes Arizona D look MUCH MUCH better then it really is .....buffalo and STL before them not exactly dynamic offenses for the Arizona D ......Phins had 21 and Tannehill had a huge day , Seattle had 16 and 9 cracks to win the game inside the 5 yard line late and couldnt , Pats just 18 at home but that was another fluky game where the missed FG at the end came after a TD was called back plus the sloppy play before then......best effort was vs Philly and a late pick 6 before half changed the course of that game.......
so what I am saying is Arizona defense is surviving by the skin of it's teeth all season and while SF may be no offensive upgrade over some previous opps ........I like the timing of it .....especially since Arizona has played w injuries to its defense lately and managed to sort of not skip a beat .....think its an illusion to a degree ......and if some of those guys come back I expect rust or rushing back and not as effective as they normally would be .....
Zona run defense ....30c 160 yds vs Buffalo , Miami 21c 80 yds if you exclude Thomas and Lane w 7c for 6 yards , Eagles 17 c 98 yards, Seattle 25c 95 yards .......so basically they are at best avg vs the run and that's what sets up the SF offense ...which allows me to be confident in a SF offense that has scored 16 pts last 2 games.....
and if you want to give a nod to past history then SF has only scored less then 20 vs Arizona two times in last 10 meetings a 13 pt effort and the 19 the last they met in ZOna........and really the only time Arizona held teams to less then 17 was Wilson's debut w 16 and couldnt get that last scored down 4 and the Eagles who self destruct like clockwork with 6 .....
so I am fairly confident that SF is cracking 20 and Arizona is at 14 but since I think SF covers becomes more like I am comfortable w 23-24 SF to 14 ........now SF defense has been great after a LOSS not allowing a TD I believe under Harbaugh....so that accounts for 2 of the low scoring defensive efforts and Buffalo had chances but blew it so reiterates my comfort thinking Arizona gets to 14 or more...
I think SF defense is good but I think Arizona's is more just above avg which means at times they will allow points ......(but they really haven't YET)
and Arizona is the same team week in and week out but there totals have not really dipped below 40 yet .......at home just the 38.5 vs Miami which found a way to go over w OT ....I see Vernon Davis as someone who could have a day ......
last year in Arizona the key was SF kicked 3 Fgs from inside the Zona 10 yard line ....9 pts rather then 21 in a game they had 19 points......(hence easily could have been in that 23-24 range or more like I expect and Skelton played in that game)
so in conclusion basically I see it as a game that really worst case should be around 23/24 SF to Arizona 14 and I disagree w the perception of Arizona's defense being very good .....SF should run the ball and w a healthier WR group + IMO a POINT of emphasis getting Vernon Davis involved .....also think SF being on MNF , vs a divisional foe , long layoff and need to make a statement after 2 offensive clunkers......guess like SNF were a shoot out was expected and I didnt see it like that , a low scoring game is expected here with 1 difference being I knew McGahee was going to have a day on the ground w SF not sure who is going to step up but guessing its Vernon Davis .......Fitz has had some days vs SF so he is the guy obviously for Arizona who has my confidence but since he is an all pro thats not exactly a news flash when there is not much else surrounding him .......
so also like the SF TT over .....and 1st H over
think its time for the ARIZONA D to pay the piper and borrowed time usually comes up w a mountain of interest
A lot of well thought out points in there. All the more reason to ignore the 'line value' on the home team.
Looking at the advanced data I disagree that Arizona is due to allow more points. Their defensive efficiency rank in terms of yards per point is a comfortable 18.5 (ranked #7). This is far from an outlier, and it's in line with their RPI number +1.8 (ranked #8). Their defense has above average efficiency, but that's what you'd expect from a team that's #12th against the run and #6 against the pass. Nothing in this data suggests that Arizona is 'due' to regress any time soon. Not at home in a divisional game on prime time at least.
All the best.
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Great read KC4U!
A lot of well thought out points in there. All the more reason to ignore the 'line value' on the home team.
Looking at the advanced data I disagree that Arizona is due to allow more points. Their defensive efficiency rank in terms of yards per point is a comfortable 18.5 (ranked #7). This is far from an outlier, and it's in line with their RPI number +1.8 (ranked #8). Their defense has above average efficiency, but that's what you'd expect from a team that's #12th against the run and #6 against the pass. Nothing in this data suggests that Arizona is 'due' to regress any time soon. Not at home in a divisional game on prime time at least.
I think this game will be similar to the Denver game, but the O/U has me nervous.
My intital lean was: SF-7 Under 38
But obviously it's not really correlated. With the #1 pass def yrds/game vs. #4 avg yrds/game, tells me the ball is going to be run a lot. With AP gashing the cards, I gotta lean SF -7 a stronger play. With Arizona's banged up D and SF pissed that the NYG ran all over them, SF rolls here.
I do like this prop bet though:
V DAVIS (SF) SC A TD
+155
Alex smith's first check down is always Vernon Davis IMO. The guy is such a miss match against any team. Also they didn't go to him very much in the NYG loss last week where as other weeks, they went to him.
One statistic about this prop bet is that he's caught a TD pass every year (they face AZ twice every year) that he's been a pro. Surprising to me. Based off historical data, 50% chance to win is pretty good :)
Gotta wait until near game time then I'll decide. Need to read more into the situation. Initial lean: SF -7
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I think this game will be similar to the Denver game, but the O/U has me nervous.
My intital lean was: SF-7 Under 38
But obviously it's not really correlated. With the #1 pass def yrds/game vs. #4 avg yrds/game, tells me the ball is going to be run a lot. With AP gashing the cards, I gotta lean SF -7 a stronger play. With Arizona's banged up D and SF pissed that the NYG ran all over them, SF rolls here.
I do like this prop bet though:
V DAVIS (SF) SC A TD
+155
Alex smith's first check down is always Vernon Davis IMO. The guy is such a miss match against any team. Also they didn't go to him very much in the NYG loss last week where as other weeks, they went to him.
One statistic about this prop bet is that he's caught a TD pass every year (they face AZ twice every year) that he's been a pro. Surprising to me. Based off historical data, 50% chance to win is pretty good :)
Gotta wait until near game time then I'll decide. Need to read more into the situation. Initial lean: SF -7
Hey si1lly, thanks again for all your work. IDK wTF happened to Da Bears, but oh well. After u're done w/ your sheets, lemme know if your system points to plays on ATL, NYG, CLE & chi (again). I haven't run mine yet, but I'm predicting the data will point to those 4 sides & probably an Over in the chi/TEN game.
I'll come back w/ whatever my (still experimental) system spits out , but my results were so similar to what you had last week, I wanted to go on the record so you didn't think I was just echoeing your picks. Thanks again, TTYL GLTA
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Hey si1lly, thanks again for all your work. IDK wTF happened to Da Bears, but oh well. After u're done w/ your sheets, lemme know if your system points to plays on ATL, NYG, CLE & chi (again). I haven't run mine yet, but I'm predicting the data will point to those 4 sides & probably an Over in the chi/TEN game.
I'll come back w/ whatever my (still experimental) system spits out , but my results were so similar to what you had last week, I wanted to go on the record so you didn't think I was just echoeing your picks. Thanks again, TTYL GLTA
Hey si1lly, thanks again for all your work. IDK wTF happened to Da Bears, but oh well. After u're done w/ your sheets, lemme know if your system points to plays on ATL, NYG, CLE & chi (again). I haven't run mine yet, but I'm predicting the data will point to those 4 sides & probably an Over in the chi/TEN game.
I'll come back w/ whatever my (still experimental) system spits out , but my results were so similar to what you had last week, I wanted to go on the record so you didn't think I was just echoeing your picks. Thanks again, TTYL GLTA
I don't presume to take ownership of any picks that I may make. I like to think what I'm doing is making well informed decisions that any other rational person would make looking at the information at hand. I can only assume that other rational human beings are doing the same thing.
I run the sheets on Tuesday morning so I'll let you know sometime tomorrow afternoon when I start a Week 9 thread what my early leans are ATS.
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Quote Originally Posted by c_had38:
Hey si1lly, thanks again for all your work. IDK wTF happened to Da Bears, but oh well. After u're done w/ your sheets, lemme know if your system points to plays on ATL, NYG, CLE & chi (again). I haven't run mine yet, but I'm predicting the data will point to those 4 sides & probably an Over in the chi/TEN game.
I'll come back w/ whatever my (still experimental) system spits out , but my results were so similar to what you had last week, I wanted to go on the record so you didn't think I was just echoeing your picks. Thanks again, TTYL GLTA
I don't presume to take ownership of any picks that I may make. I like to think what I'm doing is making well informed decisions that any other rational person would make looking at the information at hand. I can only assume that other rational human beings are doing the same thing.
I run the sheets on Tuesday morning so I'll let you know sometime tomorrow afternoon when I start a Week 9 thread what my early leans are ATS.
hey silly if you had to tease tonights game how would you do both teams or team with over or under im thinking of taking niners as pick and arz plus 14 ive been tailing your plays in all sports so your opionion would be gladly appreciated thanks
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hey silly if you had to tease tonights game how would you do both teams or team with over or under im thinking of taking niners as pick and arz plus 14 ive been tailing your plays in all sports so your opionion would be gladly appreciated thanks
silly are you going to be on early nba action, or wait it out?
Like the MLB, I find it better to wait it out an accumulate data before making any plays. I will be modeling the games starting in December and once the results stabilize, I'll start to publish them daily for the remainder of the season. There will be more than enough betting opportunities in the next 6 months no need to rush into anything.
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Quote Originally Posted by slowphenomenon:
silly are you going to be on early nba action, or wait it out?
Like the MLB, I find it better to wait it out an accumulate data before making any plays. I will be modeling the games starting in December and once the results stabilize, I'll start to publish them daily for the remainder of the season. There will be more than enough betting opportunities in the next 6 months no need to rush into anything.
I know you said that most on here werent looking at the cards but i did see value in taking the home dog here against a team getting ready for a bye. which recently hasnt been a good thing for winning football. i took this as the second leg of a 2 team teaser and im guessing with your analysis that you think the cards can hold this game to under a 2 td game
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hey S1lly,
I know you said that most on here werent looking at the cards but i did see value in taking the home dog here against a team getting ready for a bye. which recently hasnt been a good thing for winning football. i took this as the second leg of a 2 team teaser and im guessing with your analysis that you think the cards can hold this game to under a 2 td game
hey silly if you had to tease tonights game how would you do both teams or team with over or under im thinking of taking niners as pick and arz plus 14 ive been tailing your plays in all sports so your opionion would be gladly appreciated thanks
I think the best teaser bet tonight is Arizona +14 and Under 45
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Quote Originally Posted by 438:
hey silly if you had to tease tonights game how would you do both teams or team with over or under im thinking of taking niners as pick and arz plus 14 ive been tailing your plays in all sports so your opionion would be gladly appreciated thanks
I think the best teaser bet tonight is Arizona +14 and Under 45
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