No man not pissing me off at all, wasn't necessarily speaking directly to you. You are hearing that narrative all over now in the US. "The unvaxxed are responsible for Delta variant".
The DV was originated out of India, can't dispute that. Not America. I'm just stating that this is simply not true. Only thing I meant to point out, not speaking anything as to "who is spreading what and at what rate". I would though challenge anyone to find actual hard data numbers on "unvaxxed spreading virus at X rate vs. vaxxed spread". You won't find it because the data is simply NOT THERE. Israel has probably the best raw numbers to base this off but good luck finding anything concrete.
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@DoubleUp4Life
No man not pissing me off at all, wasn't necessarily speaking directly to you. You are hearing that narrative all over now in the US. "The unvaxxed are responsible for Delta variant".
The DV was originated out of India, can't dispute that. Not America. I'm just stating that this is simply not true. Only thing I meant to point out, not speaking anything as to "who is spreading what and at what rate". I would though challenge anyone to find actual hard data numbers on "unvaxxed spreading virus at X rate vs. vaxxed spread". You won't find it because the data is simply NOT THERE. Israel has probably the best raw numbers to base this off but good luck finding anything concrete.
Gibraltar only has a population of 33,000 and the infection rate according to the charts has been spiking upward dramatically in July...why? Everyone is vaccinated and yet the latest numbers are not what health authorities expected and we don't know where they will be at the end of August now do we? All of a sudden you are Marcus Welby M.D.
The vaccines are not bulletproof at all and to risk your health and life for these questionable results seems quite insane to me. This poison which you have injected into your body overrides your God given immune system.
This vaccine is a messenger RNA vaccine. The RNA sends a message to your cells to create a protein that has never existed in nature, but it does closely resemble the virus. So your body develops antibodies against this protein and hopefully the virus.
BUT, the protein your cells make at the injection site is now free to move into your blood. It could find a niche somewhere within your organs, days, months, or years down the road.
Quite a few have died or have been hit with some freaky side effects from the vaccine for this very reason. One size does NOT fit all. But sadly, no one knows the long term effects. I hope this vaccine does not have long term effects but God only knows as this was only developed last year.
Why are you so hopped up on this narrative of forcing the vaccine down everyone's throat? Are you getting paid to lobby??? I wouldn't put anything past you, your ethics are compromised and you seem more crooked than a politician. Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
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@DoubleUp4Life
Gibraltar only has a population of 33,000 and the infection rate according to the charts has been spiking upward dramatically in July...why? Everyone is vaccinated and yet the latest numbers are not what health authorities expected and we don't know where they will be at the end of August now do we? All of a sudden you are Marcus Welby M.D.
The vaccines are not bulletproof at all and to risk your health and life for these questionable results seems quite insane to me. This poison which you have injected into your body overrides your God given immune system.
This vaccine is a messenger RNA vaccine. The RNA sends a message to your cells to create a protein that has never existed in nature, but it does closely resemble the virus. So your body develops antibodies against this protein and hopefully the virus.
BUT, the protein your cells make at the injection site is now free to move into your blood. It could find a niche somewhere within your organs, days, months, or years down the road.
Quite a few have died or have been hit with some freaky side effects from the vaccine for this very reason. One size does NOT fit all. But sadly, no one knows the long term effects. I hope this vaccine does not have long term effects but God only knows as this was only developed last year.
Why are you so hopped up on this narrative of forcing the vaccine down everyone's throat? Are you getting paid to lobby??? I wouldn't put anything past you, your ethics are compromised and you seem more crooked than a politician. Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
I know 6,000 people who recovered from covid with no issue and half of those (3,000), got the vax and became severely ill immediately or several months afterwards. You have to believe my story I just made up, don't be so insensitive, you bigot!
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
I know 6,000 people who recovered from covid with no issue and half of those (3,000), got the vax and became severely ill immediately or several months afterwards. You have to believe my story I just made up, don't be so insensitive, you bigot!
Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead. I know 6,000 people who recovered from covid with no issue and half of those (3,000), got the vax and became severely ill immediately or several months afterwards. You have to believe my story I just made up, don't be so insensitive, you bigot!
You piggy back on someone basically mocking people dying in my family from Covid to make up a story ..
Good talk Russ
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Quote Originally Posted by Enzyme13:
Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead. I know 6,000 people who recovered from covid with no issue and half of those (3,000), got the vax and became severely ill immediately or several months afterwards. You have to believe my story I just made up, don't be so insensitive, you bigot!
You piggy back on someone basically mocking people dying in my family from Covid to make up a story ..
@DoubleUp4Life Gibraltar only has a population of 33,000 and the infection rate according to the charts has been spiking upward dramatically in July...why? Everyone is vaccinated and yet the latest numbers are not what health authorities expected and we don't know where they will be at the end of August now do we? All of a sudden you are Marcus Welby M.D. The vaccines are not bulletproof at all and to risk your health and life for these questionable results seems quite insane to me. This poison which you have injected into your body overrides your God given immune system. This vaccine is a messenger RNA vaccine. The RNA sends a message to your cells to create a protein that has never existed in nature, but it does closely resemble the virus. So your body develops antibodies against this protein and hopefully the virus. BUT, the protein your cells make at the injection site is now free to move into your blood. It could find a niche somewhere within your organs, days, months, or years down the road. Quite a few have died or have been hit with some freaky side effects from the vaccine for this very reason. One size does NOT fit all. But sadly, no one knows the long term effects. I hope this vaccine does not have long term effects but God only knows as this was only developed last year. Why are you so hopped up on this narrative of forcing the vaccine down everyone's throat? Are you getting paid to lobby??? I wouldn't put anything past you, your ethics are compromised and you seem more crooked than a politician. Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
Thanks for mocking death in my family .
You're pathological liar , who worships other pathological liars .. the BS story about women in your life was extra cringy ..
So you didn't read about all the tourists and Spainish workers who frequent Gibraltar ??
Get the vaccine or don't !!
Believe what you want
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I always wish all COVERS Brothers Fantastic Health ...You're in that group
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074:
@DoubleUp4Life Gibraltar only has a population of 33,000 and the infection rate according to the charts has been spiking upward dramatically in July...why? Everyone is vaccinated and yet the latest numbers are not what health authorities expected and we don't know where they will be at the end of August now do we? All of a sudden you are Marcus Welby M.D. The vaccines are not bulletproof at all and to risk your health and life for these questionable results seems quite insane to me. This poison which you have injected into your body overrides your God given immune system. This vaccine is a messenger RNA vaccine. The RNA sends a message to your cells to create a protein that has never existed in nature, but it does closely resemble the virus. So your body develops antibodies against this protein and hopefully the virus. BUT, the protein your cells make at the injection site is now free to move into your blood. It could find a niche somewhere within your organs, days, months, or years down the road. Quite a few have died or have been hit with some freaky side effects from the vaccine for this very reason. One size does NOT fit all. But sadly, no one knows the long term effects. I hope this vaccine does not have long term effects but God only knows as this was only developed last year. Why are you so hopped up on this narrative of forcing the vaccine down everyone's throat? Are you getting paid to lobby??? I wouldn't put anything past you, your ethics are compromised and you seem more crooked than a politician. Oh I forgot, everyone in your freaking family is dying of covid...right knucklehead.
Thanks for mocking death in my family .
You're pathological liar , who worships other pathological liars .. the BS story about women in your life was extra cringy ..
So you didn't read about all the tourists and Spainish workers who frequent Gibraltar ??
Get the vaccine or don't !!
Believe what you want
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I always wish all COVERS Brothers Fantastic Health ...You're in that group
@chic-cardinals Still waiting for copy and paste of a post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
Because you're deflecting and avoiding the real issue. Whether I never bet, or lost 100% of all bets I ever did, doesn't have anything to do with being dumb enough to believe govt propaganda.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
@chic-cardinals Still waiting for copy and paste of a post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
Because you're deflecting and avoiding the real issue. Whether I never bet, or lost 100% of all bets I ever did, doesn't have anything to do with being dumb enough to believe govt propaganda.
Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Gibraltar vaccinates the entire population... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gibraltar-vaccinates-entire-adult-population-in-9-weeks-thanks-to-supplies-from-the-uk/ar-BB1eLqys 4 months later... Gibraltar now experiencing rising covid cases... https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/07/23/gibraltar-cancels-large-events-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases/ This is literally a 'live' case study of a fully vaccinated population still getting and spreading it. There are other places like this, but of course they go unreported. Good try bud .. Inly 13-38 new cases per day, ... 94 total deaths from the start of the pandemic Most cases are from Spainards who work or travel there ..247 total active cases . Regarding the large gathering that may be canceled , From your article "Only those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend" .. Hopefully the vaccines hold , in order to achieve that must reach 70% vaccinated...People like you are making it more likely the virus continues to spread and mutate ...
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those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend
You can't type that and realize how fucking stupid that is? That's as orwellian , lying, propaganda based as it gets.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Gibraltar vaccinates the entire population... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gibraltar-vaccinates-entire-adult-population-in-9-weeks-thanks-to-supplies-from-the-uk/ar-BB1eLqys 4 months later... Gibraltar now experiencing rising covid cases... https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/07/23/gibraltar-cancels-large-events-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases/ This is literally a 'live' case study of a fully vaccinated population still getting and spreading it. There are other places like this, but of course they go unreported. Good try bud .. Inly 13-38 new cases per day, ... 94 total deaths from the start of the pandemic Most cases are from Spainards who work or travel there ..247 total active cases . Regarding the large gathering that may be canceled , From your article "Only those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend" .. Hopefully the vaccines hold , in order to achieve that must reach 70% vaccinated...People like you are making it more likely the virus continues to spread and mutate ...
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those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend
You're parroting F*cker carlson at verbatim who has been vaccinated for 4-5+ months and required to have a vaccine passport at Fox ..Still spewing BS to the CULT that they clap like seals for ..
You've been here going on 7 years , Still cant find 1 post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
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@chic-cardinals
Orwellian /Jim Crow ..
You're parroting F*cker carlson at verbatim who has been vaccinated for 4-5+ months and required to have a vaccine passport at Fox ..Still spewing BS to the CULT that they clap like seals for ..
You've been here going on 7 years , Still cant find 1 post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
I bought Moderna (ticker: MRNA) under 15 dollars and now its around 350. Its going to be well over 600 once the 3rd round of boosters are released. I'm absolutely buzzing.
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I bought Moderna (ticker: MRNA) under 15 dollars and now its around 350. Its going to be well over 600 once the 3rd round of boosters are released. I'm absolutely buzzing.
Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Gibraltar vaccinates the entire population... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gibraltar-vaccinates-entire-adult-population-in-9-weeks-thanks-to-supplies-from-the-uk/ar-BB1eLqys 4 months later... Gibraltar now experiencing rising covid cases... https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/07/23/gibraltar-cancels-large-events-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases/ This is literally a 'live' case study of a fully vaccinated population still getting and spreading it. There are other places like this, but of course they go unreported. Good try bud .. Inly 13-38 new cases per day, ... 94 total deaths from the start of the pandemic Most cases are from Spainards who work or travel there ..247 total active cases . Regarding the large gathering that may be canceled , From your article "Only those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend" .. Hopefully the vaccines hold , in order to achieve that must reach 70% vaccinated...People like you are making it more likely the virus continues to spread and mutate ... ##### those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend ------------------------------------------#####------------ You can't type that and realize how fucking stupid that is? That's as orwellian , lying, propaganda based as it gets.
Look brother, he's obviously a paid propaganda troll with no job because he's on here all day embarrassing himself. He previously admitted to being a drug user (not judging) just saying. And just yesterday he admitted to being a liar by using the recalled fraudulent PCR test as a basis for spreading lies and propaganda.
Selling your soul by telling lies to get drug coin would make sense because nobody is more obsessed on Covers with spreading lame-ass propaganda than Double Up.
Back in the day when I grew up (normal & sane times), any anti-American fascist spreading Goebell's-style propaganda would have had their azz kicked and been run out of town. But this is the internet age and. Covers never bans these dopes. So, I guess you make the choice to feed them or ignore them.
Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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Quote Originally Posted by chic-cardinals:
Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by lancer89074: Gibraltar vaccinates the entire population... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gibraltar-vaccinates-entire-adult-population-in-9-weeks-thanks-to-supplies-from-the-uk/ar-BB1eLqys 4 months later... Gibraltar now experiencing rising covid cases... https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/07/23/gibraltar-cancels-large-events-due-to-rising-covid-19-cases/ This is literally a 'live' case study of a fully vaccinated population still getting and spreading it. There are other places like this, but of course they go unreported. Good try bud .. Inly 13-38 new cases per day, ... 94 total deaths from the start of the pandemic Most cases are from Spainards who work or travel there ..247 total active cases . Regarding the large gathering that may be canceled , From your article "Only those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend" .. Hopefully the vaccines hold , in order to achieve that must reach 70% vaccinated...People like you are making it more likely the virus continues to spread and mutate ... ##### those who have been double vaccinated and can show a negative COVID-19 test within 24-hours" will be allowed to attend ------------------------------------------#####------------ You can't type that and realize how fucking stupid that is? That's as orwellian , lying, propaganda based as it gets.
Look brother, he's obviously a paid propaganda troll with no job because he's on here all day embarrassing himself. He previously admitted to being a drug user (not judging) just saying. And just yesterday he admitted to being a liar by using the recalled fraudulent PCR test as a basis for spreading lies and propaganda.
Selling your soul by telling lies to get drug coin would make sense because nobody is more obsessed on Covers with spreading lame-ass propaganda than Double Up.
Back in the day when I grew up (normal & sane times), any anti-American fascist spreading Goebell's-style propaganda would have had their azz kicked and been run out of town. But this is the internet age and. Covers never bans these dopes. So, I guess you make the choice to feed them or ignore them.
@chic-cardinals Orwellian /Jim Crow .. You're parroting F*cker carlson at verbatim who has been vaccinated for 4-5+ months and required to have a vaccine passport at Fox ..Still spewing BS to the CULT that they clap like seals for .. You've been here going on 7 years , Still cant find 1 post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
Shows your entire lack of critical thought. I don't watch any news and I'm not pro govt of either side. Carlson is just reading his red side script.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
@chic-cardinals Orwellian /Jim Crow .. You're parroting F*cker carlson at verbatim who has been vaccinated for 4-5+ months and required to have a vaccine passport at Fox ..Still spewing BS to the CULT that they clap like seals for .. You've been here going on 7 years , Still cant find 1 post where you won a bet ( before the game started or was completed ) , predicted ANY outcome correctly , or where ANY of your coocoo conspiracies happened
Shows your entire lack of critical thought. I don't watch any news and I'm not pro govt of either side. Carlson is just reading his red side script.
Alberta became the most free place on the entire planet last night, and I have not seen a single thread in the politics forum about it.
To sum it up for you all: - No more masks even in hospitals - no more mandatory quarantine even if you test positive - no more mass testing - testing will only be available from your doctor and if it is determined that finding out if you had covid is necessary to determine your treatment, similar to the flu now - NO. MORE. PANDEMIC.
This is the biggest rollback of the year. Reddit is losing their minds and so is the MSM.
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Alberta became the most free place on the entire planet last night, and I have not seen a single thread in the politics forum about it.
To sum it up for you all: - No more masks even in hospitals - no more mandatory quarantine even if you test positive - no more mass testing - testing will only be available from your doctor and if it is determined that finding out if you had covid is necessary to determine your treatment, similar to the flu now - NO. MORE. PANDEMIC.
This is the biggest rollback of the year. Reddit is losing their minds and so is the MSM.
Congrats to Alberta on a full opening up and congrats to the doubting Thomas's of the world who thought first before altering their God given immune system with an unproven vaccine.
Those of us who are weathering the storm of refusing the vaccines might be forced to make some tough decisions in the days ahead. I am faced now with taking an action which I would prefer not taking...not the first time in my life of course. I must embrace the changes ahead and go with the flow and I will as i have no choice. "THE ONLY CONSTANT IN LIFE IS CHANGE" -- Heraclitus
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@Enzyme13
Congrats to Alberta on a full opening up and congrats to the doubting Thomas's of the world who thought first before altering their God given immune system with an unproven vaccine.
Those of us who are weathering the storm of refusing the vaccines might be forced to make some tough decisions in the days ahead. I am faced now with taking an action which I would prefer not taking...not the first time in my life of course. I must embrace the changes ahead and go with the flow and I will as i have no choice. "THE ONLY CONSTANT IN LIFE IS CHANGE" -- Heraclitus
Thanks for mocking death in my family . You're pathological liar , who worships other pathological liars .. the BS story about women in your life was extra cringy .. So you didn't read about all the tourists and Spainish workers who frequent Gibraltar ?? Get the vaccine or don't !! Believe what you want . I always wish all COVERS Brothers Fantastic Health ...You're in that group
It is always nice to be remembered.
I only count 5 insults in your post...you are slipping. One thing is certain, you shall return, you always do.
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Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:
Thanks for mocking death in my family . You're pathological liar , who worships other pathological liars .. the BS story about women in your life was extra cringy .. So you didn't read about all the tourists and Spainish workers who frequent Gibraltar ?? Get the vaccine or don't !! Believe what you want . I always wish all COVERS Brothers Fantastic Health ...You're in that group
It is always nice to be remembered.
I only count 5 insults in your post...you are slipping. One thing is certain, you shall return, you always do.
he's obviously a paid propaganda troll with no job because he's on here all day embarrassing himself. He previously admitted to being a drug user (not judging) just saying. And just yesterday he admitted to being a liar by using the recalled fraudulent PCR test as a basis for spreading lies and propaganda.
Selling your soul by telling lies to get drug coin would make sense because nobody is more obsessed on Covers with spreading lame-ass propaganda than Double Up.
Back in the day when I grew up (normal & sane times), any anti-American fascist spreading Goebell's-style propaganda would have had their azz kicked and been run out of town. But this is the internet age and. Covers never bans these dopes. So, I guess you make the choice to feed them or ignore them.
@mctrap
You mad Bro ??? So angry
Lighten up Francis ...Take a breath ...
Grow some thicker skin , it will help you cope when someone on the internet gets you all upset
Yeah I'm a huge drug addict , drinking 2 cups of coffee daily and ripping a few bong hits of ganja here and there ..
Whoa refer madness is so BBBBBAADDDDD ...
Living a great family life with a beautiful Fantastic wife, and amazing kids...Wouldn't trade one day for a century in someone else's shoes .. ..
Like I said above, have a Fantastic summer Brother ...Enjoy each day as a Blessing ..
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he's obviously a paid propaganda troll with no job because he's on here all day embarrassing himself. He previously admitted to being a drug user (not judging) just saying. And just yesterday he admitted to being a liar by using the recalled fraudulent PCR test as a basis for spreading lies and propaganda.
Selling your soul by telling lies to get drug coin would make sense because nobody is more obsessed on Covers with spreading lame-ass propaganda than Double Up.
Back in the day when I grew up (normal & sane times), any anti-American fascist spreading Goebell's-style propaganda would have had their azz kicked and been run out of town. But this is the internet age and. Covers never bans these dopes. So, I guess you make the choice to feed them or ignore them.
@mctrap
You mad Bro ??? So angry
Lighten up Francis ...Take a breath ...
Grow some thicker skin , it will help you cope when someone on the internet gets you all upset
Yeah I'm a huge drug addict , drinking 2 cups of coffee daily and ripping a few bong hits of ganja here and there ..
Whoa refer madness is so BBBBBAADDDDD ...
Living a great family life with a beautiful Fantastic wife, and amazing kids...Wouldn't trade one day for a century in someone else's shoes .. ..
Like I said above, have a Fantastic summer Brother ...Enjoy each day as a Blessing ..
you can't possibly be serious to believe what the Facebook fact checkers post on FB? We can disagree on lots of stuff and still be cordial but please tell me you aren't that stupid or naive to believe FB fact checkers.........c'mon man- they are pushing a narrative all day long. Being conservative will be a crime before long it seems.
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@DoubleUp4Life
you can't possibly be serious to believe what the Facebook fact checkers post on FB? We can disagree on lots of stuff and still be cordial but please tell me you aren't that stupid or naive to believe FB fact checkers.........c'mon man- they are pushing a narrative all day long. Being conservative will be a crime before long it seems.
Avoid human contact like the plague? You have lost your mind. Keep living scared and believing all the fear porn on your CNN news cast. Fear doesn't stop death- it stops life- and worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles....it takes away today's peace
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@DoubleUp4Life
Avoid human contact like the plague? You have lost your mind. Keep living scared and believing all the fear porn on your CNN news cast. Fear doesn't stop death- it stops life- and worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles....it takes away today's peace
@DoubleUp4Life you can't possibly be serious to believe what the Facebook fact checkers post on FB? We can disagree on lots of stuff and still be cordial but please tell me you aren't that stupid or naive to believe FB fact checkers.........c'mon man- they are pushing a narrative all day long. Being conservative will be a crime before long it seems.
Both sides get their BS taken down Brother ..Have plenty of wacky liberal FB friends who post ridiculousness all day , it gets flagged ...They often end up on 30-90 day bans as well .
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
@DoubleUp4Life you can't possibly be serious to believe what the Facebook fact checkers post on FB? We can disagree on lots of stuff and still be cordial but please tell me you aren't that stupid or naive to believe FB fact checkers.........c'mon man- they are pushing a narrative all day long. Being conservative will be a crime before long it seems.
Both sides get their BS taken down Brother ..Have plenty of wacky liberal FB friends who post ridiculousness all day , it gets flagged ...They often end up on 30-90 day bans as well .
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