Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime...On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million. The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!
@fubah2
I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned.
Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY. No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die. But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates. Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day!
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime...On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million. The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades!
@fubah2
I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned.
Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY. No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die. But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates. Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day!
People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths....wow...just wow...
No where on earth were people safe from COVID...if you think that any one person or country could have stopped the spread and deaths then you are completely irrational and delusional....could things have happened differently, sure, but that doesn't mean the outcome would not have been the same....wasn't just the US that struggled it was a global issue, but sure yea blame it on Trump....no one person could have gotten any different result.....and for those of you that think closing our borders was going to keep it from spreading are also not looking at the situation with open eyes....
Some of you are very far out there in your attempts to push blame...COVID should not be one of them as it was going to happen regardless of what was done...that's what happens when you have people that are allowed to travel in and out of your state...even as locked down as North Korea is they still had COVID cases and deaths...so, gimmie a break
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People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths....wow...just wow...
No where on earth were people safe from COVID...if you think that any one person or country could have stopped the spread and deaths then you are completely irrational and delusional....could things have happened differently, sure, but that doesn't mean the outcome would not have been the same....wasn't just the US that struggled it was a global issue, but sure yea blame it on Trump....no one person could have gotten any different result.....and for those of you that think closing our borders was going to keep it from spreading are also not looking at the situation with open eyes....
Some of you are very far out there in your attempts to push blame...COVID should not be one of them as it was going to happen regardless of what was done...that's what happens when you have people that are allowed to travel in and out of your state...even as locked down as North Korea is they still had COVID cases and deaths...so, gimmie a break
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million. The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades! @fubah2 I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned. Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY. No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die. But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates. Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day! @Zeus4par 100% AGREED! Undeniable trump regime mismanagement
fact even intelligent republicans who r not of the maga cult agreed !!
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... On April 10, 2020... Unemployment claims pass 17 million in just 4 weeks! About 6.6 million Americans applied for jobless benefits, the Labor Department reported. The figure pushed the number of new claims in the four weeks to more than 17 million. The unprecedented surge in people who have lost work due to the COVID-19 crisis that the Trump regime failed completely to contain while at the same time downplaying the true seriousness had resulted in the worst unemployment in decades! @fubah2 I have a very distinct recollection of that time in our history when Nero was fiddling while Rome burned. Many other countries reacted with very serious conviction and did so IMMEDIATELY. No playing with "pud" watching their citizens die. But under the arrogant and incompetent Trump regime the US ranked among the top seven worst nations for hospitalizations and death rates. Undeniable mismanagement that devastated our nation, and serious lingering effects still being felt to this day! @Zeus4par 100% AGREED! Undeniable trump regime mismanagement
fact even intelligent republicans who r not of the maga cult agreed !!
People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths...
If US had the same covid death rate as Australia, 10 times more American lives could have been saved. Australia restricted personal interactions until vaccines became widely available. Then Australia maximized vaccination of population. Key difference is that Australians trust science, government and each other.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths...
If US had the same covid death rate as Australia, 10 times more American lives could have been saved. Australia restricted personal interactions until vaccines became widely available. Then Australia maximized vaccination of population. Key difference is that Australians trust science, government and each other.
You trying to compare the US to Australia....you do know that the Aussies have a 3.3 person per square kilometer as compared to the US which is 36...India at 464...you just can't randomly compare places that are vastly different and say that if this was done then you would get this result...the US has many highly populated condensed areas...much more, per capita, than Australia so not sure your logic makes sense from sheer numbers, but I guess keep on thinking with a slanted viewpoint, although illogical....
Imagine if you had a loved one traveling abroad and Trump closed the border and allowed no one to enter or exit and your loved one died in another country because they could not get back home, would you feel the same?
And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID?
You are not one of those people that think our numbers were accurate are you?
You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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You don't honestly believe that do you?
You trying to compare the US to Australia....you do know that the Aussies have a 3.3 person per square kilometer as compared to the US which is 36...India at 464...you just can't randomly compare places that are vastly different and say that if this was done then you would get this result...the US has many highly populated condensed areas...much more, per capita, than Australia so not sure your logic makes sense from sheer numbers, but I guess keep on thinking with a slanted viewpoint, although illogical....
Imagine if you had a loved one traveling abroad and Trump closed the border and allowed no one to enter or exit and your loved one died in another country because they could not get back home, would you feel the same?
And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID?
You are not one of those people that think our numbers were accurate are you?
You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths... If US had the same covid death rate as Australia, 10 times more American lives could have been saved. Australia restricted personal interactions until vaccines became widely available. Then Australia maximized vaccination of population. Key difference is that Australians trust science, government and each other.
@thirdperson
Great point, Thirdperson! ....as this was covered in detail more than 3 years ago, right here, and there's no need to re-litigate it all over again. Of course there were many other countries that similarly refused to "downplay" the seriousness of a highly infectious virus and managed the crisis extraordinarily well, including very densely populated countries like Japan, Vietnam and South Korea.
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: People across the globe died and you think Trump didn't do enough and caused deaths... If US had the same covid death rate as Australia, 10 times more American lives could have been saved. Australia restricted personal interactions until vaccines became widely available. Then Australia maximized vaccination of population. Key difference is that Australians trust science, government and each other.
@thirdperson
Great point, Thirdperson! ....as this was covered in detail more than 3 years ago, right here, and there's no need to re-litigate it all over again. Of course there were many other countries that similarly refused to "downplay" the seriousness of a highly infectious virus and managed the crisis extraordinarily well, including very densely populated countries like Japan, Vietnam and South Korea.
This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime...
April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime]
Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin]
So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime...
April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime]
Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin]
So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020:
Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago
Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020:
Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago
Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
Could have saved hundreds of thousands!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: This week in the total calamity of 2020 under the failed trump regime... April 16, 2020: Another 5 million people filed jobless claims last week, bringing total to almost 22 million in one month [under the failed trump regime] Four years later: the unemployment rate remains a huge bright spot for America, at just 3.8% [under the Democratic admin] So yes, in that VERY IMPORTANT REGARD, we are definitely better off today than 4 years ago Earlier, Fauci had told CNN that "no one is going to deny" that lives could've been saved if the US had implemented containment measures earlier in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID? You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
In the US, covid deaths are under counted and not over counted. This is indicated by big difference between covid deaths and excess deaths of population during 2020-22. Under reporting from home deaths outweigh hospital reporting which follow guidelines of Center for disease control.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID? You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
In the US, covid deaths are under counted and not over counted. This is indicated by big difference between covid deaths and excess deaths of population during 2020-22. Under reporting from home deaths outweigh hospital reporting which follow guidelines of Center for disease control.
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID? You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
In the US, covid deaths are under counted and not over counted. This is indicated by big difference between covid deaths and excess deaths of population during 2020-22. Under reporting from home deaths outweigh hospital reporting which follow guidelines of Center for disease control.
this is well understood by those who trust science but not by the magas who believe the election was stolen despite no evidence
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: And how many deaths do you think were counted in the US of people that just had COVID but did not actually die of COVID? You know they were counting deaths of people who had COVID but did not die of COVID as actual COVID deaths...bit misleading...
In the US, covid deaths are under counted and not over counted. This is indicated by big difference between covid deaths and excess deaths of population during 2020-22. Under reporting from home deaths outweigh hospital reporting which follow guidelines of Center for disease control.
this is well understood by those who trust science but not by the magas who believe the election was stolen despite no evidence
On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... WHO states that they had alerted the World to coronavirus on January 05
yup and only a few weeks later when cases started cropping up in america and dr. fauci was sounding the alarm , that was when chump started downplaying the whole thing
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... WHO states that they had alerted the World to coronavirus on January 05
yup and only a few weeks later when cases started cropping up in america and dr. fauci was sounding the alarm , that was when chump started downplaying the whole thing
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... WHO states that they had alerted the World to coronavirus on January 05 yup and only a few weeks later when cases started cropping up in america and dr. fauci was sounding the alarm , that was when chump started downplaying the whole thing
@KellyM_1964
Exactly! Remember this? ...
FEB 26, 2020:
"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."
-- Trump, Feb. 26, 2020 on the eve of what would become the greatest disaster in the US over the past 80+ years
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... WHO states that they had alerted the World to coronavirus on January 05 yup and only a few weeks later when cases started cropping up in america and dr. fauci was sounding the alarm , that was when chump started downplaying the whole thing
@KellyM_1964
Exactly! Remember this? ...
FEB 26, 2020:
"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."
-- Trump, Feb. 26, 2020 on the eve of what would become the greatest disaster in the US over the past 80+ years
I’m way better off than I was 4 years ago on this day/month because I have taken on more accountability for my own actions and have become a more responsible leader because of it
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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I’m way better off than I was 4 years ago on this day/month because I have taken on more accountability for my own actions and have become a more responsible leader because of it
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime
US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime
US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
And are we positive that some of those cases are not fabricated, as in I went to test at a clinic and tested positive and then went back 3-5 days later and tested positive again????? Because I know for a fact those are recorded as 2 occurrences or 2 cases not 1....that's a bit of a misnomer isn't it....
I know you won't reply, but the facts are really not the facts with some of this COVID stuff...no different than the count of deaths with people who had COVID and passed away and those that passed away because of COVID...very very skewed....Let's play with accurate facts first then we can get into why the recipe didn't turn out as grandma used to make...
COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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And are we positive that some of those cases are not fabricated, as in I went to test at a clinic and tested positive and then went back 3-5 days later and tested positive again????? Because I know for a fact those are recorded as 2 occurrences or 2 cases not 1....that's a bit of a misnomer isn't it....
I know you won't reply, but the facts are really not the facts with some of this COVID stuff...no different than the count of deaths with people who had COVID and passed away and those that passed away because of COVID...very very skewed....Let's play with accurate facts first then we can get into why the recipe didn't turn out as grandma used to make...
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
Unbelievable level of incompetence back then!
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: On this day in 2020 under the trump regime... over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
but the facts are really not the facts with some of this COVID stuff...no different than the count of deaths with people who had COVID and passed away and those that passed away because of COVID...very very skewed.......
Most medical experts agree that covid deaths are more likely to be under counted instead of over counted. Especially during the first year of pandemic because of inadequate testing. Many people died outside of hospital or have never been tested. Center for disease control instructs doctors to list covid on death certificate if covid conributes to death. That is, the deceased would still be alive if not for covid. Besides, excess deaths of population (beyond expectations) during 2020 to 2022 can best be explained by pandemic.
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Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:
but the facts are really not the facts with some of this COVID stuff...no different than the count of deaths with people who had COVID and passed away and those that passed away because of COVID...very very skewed.......
Most medical experts agree that covid deaths are more likely to be under counted instead of over counted. Especially during the first year of pandemic because of inadequate testing. Many people died outside of hospital or have never been tested. Center for disease control instructs doctors to list covid on death certificate if covid conributes to death. That is, the deceased would still be alive if not for covid. Besides, excess deaths of population (beyond expectations) during 2020 to 2022 can best be explained by pandemic.
On this day in 2020 under the trump regime...over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime
US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
a great deal of that preventable
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
On this day in 2020 under the trump regime...over 1600 Americans died from the virus trump said was going to go away in 2 weeks im guessing not any better on april 22 , in 2020 under the chump regime
US COVID-19 death toll passes 40,000, with 742,442 cases recorded according to Johns Hopkins tally, thanks to the president downplaying the whole issue.
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