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Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

1. Trump was led to Christ by the preacher Paula White in 2011 or 2012 after watching her on tv for years

2. He isn't open with his faith ala Tim Tebow  because if he was open about his faith during the election he wouldn't get 10% of the vote as American won't vote for a Christian who wears his/her faith on their sleeves

3. In an interview Trump did he talked about how people over the years{most he's never met} mailed him bibles. In his Trump Tower apartment their is a room with 1,000 bibles in it

4. I'm not going to decide who is and isn't a Christian. He isn't perfect but he who is without sin shall cast the 1st stone. God must have loved imperfect people because we are all imperfect

I realize their are many out there who don't believe there is a God or a Jesus. But remember this: If you're right that there is no God no Jesus and the bible is a bunch of gobbeldy person..at the end of my life I LOST NOTHING. If i'm right and you're wrong YOU LOST EVERYTHING

You know how I know he's a Christian? Look how they persecute and attack him from all sides They only do that to Christians. Because Trump is a threat to their good time. He's a threat to their way of life and how they have perverted this country. And like it or not deplorable Christians like me and millions of others are taking this country back and it starts with the Supreme Court

Whats funny is those who make fun of us Christians you notice at some point they need us? They make fun of us and say "Look its the stupid Christians! Wave to the stupid Christians! Where's your God at?" They laugh at us....And then Sandy Hook happens. Or 9/11 or Orlando at the nightclub and where do they all go running? To the stupid Christians. But I thought we were idiots?



Didn't Paula White have an affair with Benny Hinn? I guess she would be the person to "lead" Trump to Christianity considering how many marriages they have each been through. 

He isn't open about his faith because he doesn't care about or doesn't practice it. I don't remember Trump preaching Christianity before he considered running for Pres. 

People sending him bibles doesn't make him a Christian. We all get junk mail. 

You say you aren't going to decide who is and isn't Christian....right after declaring that Trump is a Christian. 

Pascal's Wager is a fallacy. Once again, prove a God exists. You have lost something if you've donated money to an evangelical fraud like Paula White, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, etc. You lost money that could have better been served going to an actual charity. You've also more than likely lost time spent at a Church that could have better been served elsewhere. 

Now you're declaring Trump is a Christian again after just saying "I'm not going to decide who is and isn't a Christian". 

Nobody NEEDS religion. People like religion because it gives them some sort of comfort. A lot of people hate the thought of there being no life after this and no better place to go. But this is no different than Muslims believing that there are 72 virgins waiting for them if they blow themselves up along with a bunch of other people. It's all unproven nonsense. You just choose to believe your version of this unproven nonsense because you were born in America and not Saudi Arabia, or any other non predominately Christian country. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sabanesque:

Relax, man

I'm just pointing out the support he has amongst American Christians.  I'm not saying it's justified, warranted, deserved, whatever. 

They will see him as a SAVIOUR though if he delivers on overturning Roe V Wade.

I know a lady who lost her son (I communicate with her regularly) due to an illegal alien who was 3 times deported, and he killed her son, a police officer, in a traffic accident. It was her only son, and it devastated her life. She became suicidal, despondent, and was upset that the offender received a few months in jail, and STILL was not deported. And she said Trump told her in private, "If it were possible, I would give up my entire fortune, just to have your son back. And I mean that." She TRULY believed him, and she kept that conversation private. He also said other things to her that she will not reveal. He connected with people in ways like this that the media never reports on. It is why he won the election, and Hillary did not. 


You think Liberals are pi$$ed now? Wait until he gets the 3-5 justices on the Court and that gets overturned
 
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Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

You think Liberals are pi$$ed now? Wait until he gets the 3-5 justices on the Court and that gets overturned


if that happens, no one is going to be more pissed than these folks


https://www.christianpost.com/news/70-of-women-who-get-abortions-identify-as-christians-survey-finds-150937/



 
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Didn't Paula White have an affair with Benny Hinn? I guess she would be the person to "lead" Trump to Christianity considering how many marriages they have each been through. 

He isn't open about his faith because he doesn't care about or doesn't practice it. I don't remember Trump preaching Christianity before he considered running for Pres. 

People sending him bibles doesn't make him a Christian. We all get junk mail. 

You say you aren't going to decide who is and isn't Christian....right after declaring that Trump is a Christian. 

Pascal's Wager is a fallacy. Once again, prove a God exists. You have lost something if you've donated money to an evangelical fraud like Paula White, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, etc. You lost money that could have better been served going to an actual charity. You've also more than likely lost time spent at a Church that could have better been served elsewhere. 

Now you're declaring Trump is a Christian again after just saying "I'm not going to decide who is and isn't a Christian". 

Nobody NEEDS religion. People like religion because it gives them some sort of comfort. A lot of people hate the thought of there being no life after this and no better place to go. But this is no different than Muslims believing that there are 72 virgins waiting for them if they blow themselves up along with a bunch of other people. It's all unproven nonsense. You just choose to believe your version of this unproven nonsense because you were born in America and not Saudi Arabia, or any other non predominately Christian country. 


I disagree.  I believe religion provides people with comfort because they're too scared to live an existence that could possibly have no real meaning or purpose.  It gives a structure and reasons for them to live their lives and gives all the answers to life. 

Of course, one should probably consider that given the state of the times when the Bible originated, which was profoundly ignorant in terms of knowledge, and because nobody could even understand the Latin being spoken at churches, it's highly unlikely that they're correct.  It's the convenience that people like so much about it and they don't even have to treat others with respect or morals and everything will be fine if they ask for forgiveness before death.  They must believe this because most religious people I've ever met are rude, don't extend kindness, look down on others and typically don't behave with any real set of values at all.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


Nobody cares what you think of Pelosi and here millions.

They will care when they lose health insurance or some coverage. And they will respond at the voting booth. Bottom line. This is a businessman giving away billions to big business. He leaves office and he'll skyrocket up the richest men in the world list. And that's what he wants. Use the presidency for financial gain.  That's all he knows.

Sorry suckers who voted for him? We DONT forgive you.


This is rather comical.

In 20010 I was saying the same thing about Obamacare that you are saying about Trumpcare. At least give Trumpcare the chance to fail before you go all in against it.

I was saying that passing Obamacare will hand the Republicans the majority....

Too funny!!!!
 
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if that happens, no one is going to be more pissed than these folks


https://www.christianpost.com/news/70-of-women-who-get-abortions-identify-as-christians-survey-finds-150937/



And if you're a baby murderer like those women you probably aren't Christian
 
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Quote Originally Posted by packers1992:

And if you're a baby murderer like those women you probably aren't Christian


i don't think they killed babies, just had abortions, but it sounds like they'd disagree with you.  they might say lying/exaggerating is a sin and you aren't christian. 
 
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According to Legatum institute, healthcare systems are judged by country's basic mental and physical health, healthcare infrastructure and availability of preventive care.  By those measures, Obamacare is better than both Trumpcare and the old system which is the most inefficient or unaffordable in the world with many Americans uninsured.

Under Trumpcare, expect insurance to cost more because insurers would have more freedom to charge higher premiums.  Also Medicaid expansion to help the poor and disabled would be rolled back.  More Americans would lose coverage according to Congress budget office. 

Problem is that Trumpcare doesn't recognize why healthcare reform is necessary in the US.  Priority is misguided.  The sick need the most help.  Not the rich and healthy. 
 
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I disagree.  I believe religion provides people with comfort because they're too scared to live an existence that could possibly have no real meaning or purpose.  It gives a structure and reasons for them to live their lives and gives all the answers to life. 

Of course, one should probably consider that given the state of the times when the Bible originated, which was profoundly ignorant in terms of knowledge, and because nobody could even understand the Latin being spoken at churches, it's highly unlikely that they're correct.  It's the convenience that people like so much about it and they don't even have to treat others with respect or morals and everything will be fine if they ask for forgiveness before death.  They must believe this because most religious people I've ever met are rude, don't extend kindness, look down on others and typically don't behave with any real set of values at all.

I respect your opinion, especially since it isn't full of contradictions like other posters on here. I just disagree that society needs religion and belief in a God, that is yet to be proven. There are plenty of people on both sides of the belief isle that are good and bad. I just think that religion unnecessary for people to be good. Religion also provides a platform for people to be evil to each other. Not just religion vs religion either, such as Islam vs Christianity. I'm referring to parents trying prayer as oppose to hospitals for medical care. Then some of these very children dying from preventable diseases. 

Religion/belief in a God does give people some guidance towards living a good life. However, it does do harm to people as well. It just isn't NEEDED for people to live a good, productive life and to be a beneficial part of society. 

If you need any further examples of the harm religion can do to people, just read several of Packers posts. My favorites are the ones where he claims he's a Christian and then he gives his disregard for others in society and the environment. I'm sure Jesus would be proud of someone who claims he is a follower. 
 
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I respect your opinion, especially since it isn't full of contradictions like other posters on here. I just disagree that society needs religion and belief in a God, that is yet to be proven. There are plenty of people on both sides of the belief isle that are good and bad. I just think that religion unnecessary for people to be good. Religion also provides a platform for people to be evil to each other. Not just religion vs religion either, such as Islam vs Christianity. I'm referring to parents trying prayer as oppose to hospitals for medical care. Then some of these very children dying from preventable diseases. 

Religion/belief in a God does give people some guidance towards living a good life. However, it does do harm to people as well. It just isn't NEEDED for people to live a good, productive life and to be a beneficial part of society. 

If you need any further examples of the harm religion can do to people, just read several of Packers posts. My favorites are the ones where he claims he's a Christian and then he gives his disregard for others in society and the environment. I'm sure Jesus would be proud of someone who claims he is a follower. 

 
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Liberals believe that welfare, unemployment and other government handouts are a lifestyle. 

This has now attracted many more illegals(before President Trump), who are ready for the free education, free health care and free government handouts.

Everything Obama and the democrats touch becomes unaffordable. My health insurance is now 1350/month, my taxes are closing in on 40% (in New York), and even my subway pass is now over $100/month (in NYC). Stuff that is still private enterprise is super cheap. Car insurance ($55 per month from Insurance Panda), cell phone ($55/month per person from verizon), and gym ($15/month from Planet Fitness). Even crime and murder rates are through the roof.


The government destroys everything. And these liberal buffoons want an increase in government!

The Democratic Party = lying, cover-up scheming, socialists. It does not matter who you vote for today as long as it is not a Democrat. All Democrats need to lose their jobs and positions. They are ruining America.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


I respect your opinion, especially since it isn't full of contradictions like other posters on here. I just disagree that society needs religion and belief in a God, that is yet to be proven. There are plenty of people on both sides of the belief isle that are good and bad. I just think that religion unnecessary for people to be good. Religion also provides a platform for people to be evil to each other. Not just religion vs religion either, such as Islam vs Christianity. I'm referring to parents trying prayer as oppose to hospitals for medical care. Then some of these very children dying from preventable diseases. 

Religion/belief in a God does give people some guidance towards living a good life. However, it does do harm to people as well. It just isn't NEEDED for people to live a good, productive life and to be a beneficial part of society. 

If you need any further examples of the harm religion can do to people, just read several of Packers posts. My favorites are the ones where he claims he's a Christian and then he gives his disregard for others in society and the environment. I'm sure Jesus would be proud of someone who claims he is a follower. 


We actually agree with a majority of that.  However, I'm not sure eradicating religion would be useful either because some people are so scared and irrational that their responses to a world without any kind of structure and goals would likely border on chaotic.  How would the public react if the government could confirm real extraterrestrial contact in the past?  Just an example but I bet there would be a segment of the population that'd panic and do some crazy things. 
 
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Trump has been a total disaster. Worse than anyone could have foreseen
 
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Amen Dough! Corrupt to the core. Lie, cheat, steal, whatever it takes for them to stay in power. They're self-destructing daily...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Vitterd:

Trump has been a total disaster. Worse than anyone could have foreseen


You choose this forum to make your very first post on Covers ....Hmmmm.
 
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You choose this forum to make your very first post on Covers ....Hmmmm.

Could be another bowlslit alias or maybe another sportsfan alias.
 
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Appears that a lot of not so smart republican senators got b!tch slapped today by a very smart woman!!!  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Vitterd:

Trump has been a total disaster. Worse than anyone could have foreseen



 
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Appears that a lot of not so smart republican senators got b!tch slapped today by a very smart woman!!!  

I watched todays ENTIRE hearing and I TOTALLY DISAGREE, She came across no different than Comey...a career bureaucrat...Would not be surprised one bit if she was ONE of the MAIN Leakers...She kept on looking at Clapper before she responded to Grassley and Graham..

..btw..Lyin Ted was totally correct calling her a partisan hack..

THIS SCANDAL of SPYING BY OBAMA ADMINISTRATION is gonna make Watergate look like child's play. OBAMA admin using the tools at their disposal to spy on Political opponents and sitting Congressman...

The DEMS are right..this has only just begun....
 
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I watched todays ENTIRE hearing and I TOTALLY DISAGREE, She came across no different than Comey...a career bureaucrat...Would not be surprised one bit if she was ONE of the MAIN Leakers...She kept on looking at Clapper before she responded to Grassley and Graham..

..btw..Lyin Ted was totally correct calling her a partisan hack..

THIS SCANDAL of SPYING BY OBAMA ADMINISTRATION is gonna make Watergate look like child's play. OBAMA admin using the tools at their disposal to spy on Political opponents and sitting Congressman...

The DEMS are right..this has only just begun....
I sure you also know what they say about opinions.
 
 
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Scal, can Spurs beat GS,and can Spurs beat cavs? good luck.
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