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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

A question for the Trump detractors ...

How could there be any chemical weapons in Syria int he first place to use on people?   In 2014 the Obama administration bragged repeatedly about getting all the chemical weapons out of Syria.......

At the time President Obama bragged :“It turns out we are getting chemical weapons out of Syria without initiating a strike,”

Former Secretary of State John Kerry said in a television interview that in Syria, “We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out.".........100%...means none left.


Looks like President Trump was right by saying  .."These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration's weakness and irresolution,"


You make an excellent point, Slim  ... but it is off-topic.

The question posed is simply what should Trump do?
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Trump will have to work with the international community to resolve this issue. It will involve an international coallition troops peacekeepers, the chances the islamic state just up and leaves are slim and none.

 Pressure from the international community sanctions and so on. After the iraq debacle many nations would be leery of following the usa blindly into a drawn out conflict. Some of the nations that took a pass on iraq would certainly assist in this "intervention.


Sanctions from the international community is certainly an option.
Unfortunately, by the time they become an effective tool in stopping the Assad regime there will be no civilians left in Syria.




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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

A question for the Trump detractors ...

How could there be any chemical weapons in Syria int he first place to use on people?   In 2014 the Obama administration bragged repeatedly about getting all the chemical weapons out of Syria.......

At the time President Obama bragged :“It turns out we are getting chemical weapons out of Syria without initiating a strike,”

Former Secretary of State John Kerry said in a television interview that in Syria, “We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out.".........100%...means none left.


Looks like President Trump was right by saying  .."These heinous actions by the Bashar al-Assad regime are a consequence of the past administration's weakness and irresolution,"



Is it possible that they had none in 2014, then they made more in the last 3 years?
 
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I don't have a firm opinion on what he should because I don't have all of the necessary information at my disposal in order to form a conclusion.  That's why he's president.  He needs to make tough choices and live with them.  I believe that it really depends on what Trump thinks about Assad personally and whether he cares about replacing his regime.  I don't think Trump is going to make any kind of public statement on his position so at this time I can only go by the news that's reporting troops being moved into Syria.
 
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on what he should do*
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:



Is it possible that they had none in 2014, then they made more in the last 3 years?


Although,, this is certainly within the bounds of possibility....however,as pointed out befittingly by the OP ........it's off-topic..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

Took of my caps just for you Hugh!  Your question is pretty comical yet extremely sad at the same time.  You are more concerned with the MSM than with Trump's lack of every single thing needed to lead the free world.  With all facts that we actually know, Trump will do EXACTLY what Putin wants him to do, nothing less or more.

His shady real estate negotiating skills are totally worthless on the worldwide political stage, as are the millionaire/billionaire fish out of water people that he has surrounded himself with.  And with many of them having Russian ties, what could you possibly expect them to do but publicly condemn and then just look the other way.

Those poor Syrians are screwed and the greatest country in the world does not have the leadership to help them, the power to stop the murderers or the knowledge to come up with a plan

How does the tomahawk shower fit into putins plan exactly?
 
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Now we need our allies to step up.
Assad should be pressed in the Hague for war crimes of using chemical weapons that was flown from that base with that plane to kill those humans with that weapon. And be tried for his actions.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

Took of my caps just for you Hugh!  Your question is pretty comical yet extremely sad at the same time.  You are more concerned with the MSM than with Trump's lack of every single thing needed to lead the free world.  With all facts that we actually know, Trump will do EXACTLY what Putin wants him to do, nothing less or more.

His shady real estate negotiating skills are totally worthless on the worldwide political stage, as are the millionaire/billionaire fish out of water people that he has surrounded himself with.  And with many of them having Russian ties, what could you possibly expect them to do but publicly condemn and then just look the other way.

Those poor Syrians are screwed and the greatest country in the world does not have the leadership to help them, the power to stop the murderers or the knowledge to come up with a plan


-800 you didn't think Obama was under qualified for POTUS as a community organizer.

We have grown tired of career politicians that have no REAL LIFE experience.

Trump will do just fine.
 
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I like the call to put craters in one of Assad's runways. Now, a no fly zone will suffice as long as Russia agrees to stay away.
 
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In the NFL they have people called Monday Morning QB's.
They are the ones who like to critique using their 20-20 hindsight.
Politics has the same type of people.

So now that Trump has fired a warning shot, what should he do next?




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Find Assad when that 6 10 white Arab pokes his weazle ears out of the bunker he is hiding frag his arsh.
 
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If we really want Assad gone. A discreet accident should be arranged
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



Although,, this is certainly within the bounds of possibility....however,as pointed out befittingly by the OP ........it's off-topic..

It's a direct answer to YOUR question.   If you ever quit with your childish games you might actually be taken seriously on here
 
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Although I can understand Russia's problem hard to sell a missle defense system that can not stop a weapon that has been around for a quarter of a century. Was not like we just deployed the tomahawk cruise missle.
 
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Predictably, there is some pisssing and moaning going on about the tomahawk strike. 

Hearing a lot of politicians whine that the President should have went to Congress before acting ... I'm sure that hearing Maxine Waters opinion on this is important 

Not many detractors seem to have an opinion as to the proper course of action.
Much easier to complain after the facts 

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Assad is Russia's little baby and although Trump probabaly  wants to be the big boy on the block and solve the problem himself I think he be better off enlisting the aid of the international community, Now putting sanctions on Syria would be no good as the people there got nothing to withhold, the pressure should be put on Putin himself. If Trump can convince enough nations to impose sanctions on Russia so they really hurt or lift sanctions if Russia cooperates in taking out Assad maybe it would help, BUT Trump needs the international community to back him or it would be a useless endeavor and what we should have learned from previous endeavors like putting boots on the ground or airstrikes will just create more problems down the road. Force Russia to clean up the mess left by Assad and with international guidance put someone in power that everyone can agree on... this may be a pipe dream but it is my veiw

 As for that attack last night I think it was just a lot of posturing and showmanship by Trump and accomplished d1ck all. The Russians were given advance warning that the attack was coming so they pulled all their jets and men away and probabaly the Syrians followed suit. From what I seen on news broadcasts the Tomahawks did minimal damage to the airstrips and Syria were likely using the base the next day

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Posted: #43
Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

Predictably, there is some pisssing and moaning going on about the tomahawk strike. 

Hearing a lot of politicians whine that the President should have went to Congress before acting ... I'm sure that hearing Maxine Waters opinion on this is important 

Not many detractors seem to have an opinion as to the proper course of action.
Much easier to complain after the facts 


You keep asking what Trump should do. I really don't know Hugh. He is the one with access to the Intel and I will trust his decisions regarding Syria. The only opinion that I have is that a "boots on the ground" incursion/conflict should be avoided. I have no problem with last night's air strike on the Syrian base.

I haven't been hearing the news reports about politicians moaning about the air strike. Jim Nantz hasn't mentioned it at all.

Enjoy Masters Weekend. The leaderboard is taking shape beautifully.




 
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If we could cooperate with Russia. And the international had undeniable proof Assad did this it could gibe Russia a way out. And
If Putin did not want Assad in power.
Assad would be not
 
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Quote Originally Posted by idle_havoc:

Assad is Russia's little baby and although Trump probabaly  wants to be the big boy on the block and solve the problem himself I think he be better off enlisting the aid of the international community, Now putting sanctions on Syria would be no good as the people there got nothing to withhold, the pressure should be put on Putin himself. If Trump can convince enough nations to impose sanctions on Russia so they really hurt or lift sanctions if Russia cooperates in taking out Assad maybe it would help, BUT Trump needs the international community to back him or it would be a useless endeavor and what we should have learned from previous endeavors like putting boots on the ground or airstrikes will just create more problems down the road. Force Russia to clean up the mess left by Assad and with international guidance put someone in power that everyone can agree on... this may be a pipe dream but it is my veiw

 As for that attack last night I think it was just a lot of posturing and showmanship by Trump and accomplished d1ck all. The Russians were given advance warning that the attack was coming so they pulled all their jets and men away and probabaly the Syrians followed suit. From what I seen on news broadcasts the Tomahawks did minimal damage to the airstrips and Syria were likely using the base the next day


You have just fully expressed my opinion as well ... everything you wrote 
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You keep asking what Trump should do. I really don't know Hugh. He is the one with access to the Intel 

True, but us not having the Intel does not stop people from criticizing after the fact, so why should it stop them (not everyone) from sharing an opinion before the fact? 
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Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:


I haven't been hearing the news reports about politicians moaning about the air strike. Jim Nantz hasn't mentioned it at all.

Enjoy Masters Weekend. The leaderboard is taking shape beautifully.



Supposed to be in the 70's this Tuesday in my neck of the woods.
I will get my first round of golf in then.

As for the Masters, I would love to see Freddy Couples hang in there 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

If we could cooperate with Russia. And the international had undeniable proof Assad did this it could gibe Russia a way out. And
If Putin did not want Assad in power.
Assad would be not

I do a lot of business with guys from Syria, both muslims and christians, who are now in the States.
Yesterday I spent a lot of time talking with them, getting their opinions/views.

It is amazing how different they see things compared to what the media here reports.
It's scary, actually 
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After the events of the last couple of days can we now put to bed the rumors of Trump team colluding with Russia?

Do you really think Trump is walking on egg shells regarding Putin at this point?


 
 
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Most Syrian refugees hate Assad and
His English wife. Removal of Assad
Would be easy replacing him and stabilizing Syria the more difficult challenge
Interesting what Tillerson dialogue with Russia pans 
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