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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2022 - 3:52 AM ET #726

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.*

    *https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/10/americas-most-dangerous-states-4/3/

     

    Another variation of this was posted about a year ago as well, suggesting that it really doesn't change much.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.*

    *https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/10/americas-most-dangerous-states-4/3/

     

    Another variation of this was posted about a year ago as well, suggesting that it really doesn't change much.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2022 - 9:50 AM ET #727

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.

    FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.

    FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2022 - 11:30 AM ET #728

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states. FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

    Facts! goodpost

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states. FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

    Facts! goodpost

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2022 - 11:50 AM ET #729

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another mass shooting occurred tonight at Chesapeake Walmart, Virginia.  Number of dead was “less than 10, right now.”--Chesapeake police spokesman Leo Kosinski.* *https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-police-multiple-people-killed-053200343.html This madness keeps happening and happening, close to daily basis. Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet. Biden's America.... It happened in Virginia, a Republican governor state.Happening all over in Biden's America.....

    You do realize the rate of mass shootings was just as high under Fat Donnie right? The deadliest mass shooting in the modern era also happened on his watch (Las Vegas). 

    Trying to pin mass shootings on Biden is dubious at best. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another mass shooting occurred tonight at Chesapeake Walmart, Virginia.  Number of dead was “less than 10, right now.”--Chesapeake police spokesman Leo Kosinski.* *https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-police-multiple-people-killed-053200343.html This madness keeps happening and happening, close to daily basis. Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet. Biden's America.... It happened in Virginia, a Republican governor state.Happening all over in Biden's America.....

    You do realize the rate of mass shootings was just as high under Fat Donnie right? The deadliest mass shooting in the modern era also happened on his watch (Las Vegas). 

    Trying to pin mass shootings on Biden is dubious at best. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2022 - 10:05 AM ET #730

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet.Although Switzerland has high rate of gun ownership, last mass shooting occurred decades ago.  However in 2022, over 600 mass shootings in the US.  Key difference is gun control.  Regulations such as licensing and training are far stricter in Switzerland.

     

    Wikipedia; The laws pertaining to the acquisition of firearms in Switzerland are amongst the most liberal in the world.

    Foreigners with citizenship to the following countries are explicitly excluded from the right to buy, sell and own weapons and their parts unless they ask for an exceptional authorization to the state: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

     

    Well then, let's adopt Switzerland rules.

    #1 All young men MUST be in some form of government military. If you object, a prison sentence.

    #2 All young men in the military will get a federal issued rifle to store in their home.

    #2 Immigrants from countries with high gun crime (i.e. Venezuela, El Savador, Guatemala) you can NEVER own a gun in this country. The white guy next door can, but not you.

    It works for them............

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet.Although Switzerland has high rate of gun ownership, last mass shooting occurred decades ago.  However in 2022, over 600 mass shootings in the US.  Key difference is gun control.  Regulations such as licensing and training are far stricter in Switzerland.

     

    Wikipedia; The laws pertaining to the acquisition of firearms in Switzerland are amongst the most liberal in the world.

    Foreigners with citizenship to the following countries are explicitly excluded from the right to buy, sell and own weapons and their parts unless they ask for an exceptional authorization to the state: Serbia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Turkey, Sri Lanka, Algeria and Albania.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Switzerland

     

    Well then, let's adopt Switzerland rules.

    #1 All young men MUST be in some form of government military. If you object, a prison sentence.

    #2 All young men in the military will get a federal issued rifle to store in their home.

    #2 Immigrants from countries with high gun crime (i.e. Venezuela, El Savador, Guatemala) you can NEVER own a gun in this country. The white guy next door can, but not you.

    It works for them............

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2022 - 10:19 AM ET #731

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another mass shooting occurred tonight at Chesapeake Walmart, Virginia.  Number of dead was “less than 10, right now.”--Chesapeake police spokesman Leo Kosinski.* *https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-police-multiple-people-killed-053200343.html This madness keeps happening and happening, close to daily basis. Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet. Biden's America.... It happened in Virginia, a Republican governor state. Happening all over in Biden's America.....   Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.* *https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/10/americas-most-dangerous-states-4/3/

    I like this one so much I'm going with bigger font. 

    WOW, look at all those red states up in front!

    Hmmm, seems like New Mexico had the highest crime rate per captia in 2020, how did they fair on this list?? Oh, golly gee, they FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    How about Chicago, now there's a dangerous city, how did Illinois come out on the list? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    OK, Philly, a city Mexico uses video from to discourage drug use. How did Pennsylvanna do in 2021? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    New York then? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    Los Angeles not the place where I want to be. California?? NAW, FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    Baltimore? Maryland?? YOU GUESSED IT, FAILED TO REPORT.

    NONE OF THE ABOVE ON THIS LIST. an_lightan_lightan_light

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Another mass shooting occurred tonight at Chesapeake Walmart, Virginia.  Number of dead was “less than 10, right now.”--Chesapeake police spokesman Leo Kosinski.* *https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-police-multiple-people-killed-053200343.html This madness keeps happening and happening, close to daily basis. Mass gun violence is unique in America, nothing came close from other countries on this planet. Biden's America.... It happened in Virginia, a Republican governor state. Happening all over in Biden's America.....   Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.* *https://247wallst.com/special-report/2022/10/10/americas-most-dangerous-states-4/3/

    I like this one so much I'm going with bigger font. 

    WOW, look at all those red states up in front!

    Hmmm, seems like New Mexico had the highest crime rate per captia in 2020, how did they fair on this list?? Oh, golly gee, they FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    How about Chicago, now there's a dangerous city, how did Illinois come out on the list? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    OK, Philly, a city Mexico uses video from to discourage drug use. How did Pennsylvanna do in 2021? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    New York then? FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    Los Angeles not the place where I want to be. California?? NAW, FAILED TO REPORT.

     

    Baltimore? Maryland?? YOU GUESSED IT, FAILED TO REPORT.

    NONE OF THE ABOVE ON THIS LIST. an_lightan_lightan_light

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2022 - 11:10 AM ET #732

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states. FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

     

     

     

    Facts!  goodpost

     

     

     

    Amazing how Fox News distorts the real facts like those.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states. FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

     

     

     

    Facts!  goodpost

     

     

     

    Amazing how Fox News distorts the real facts like those.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2022 - 11:12 AM ET #733

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.

     

     

     

    FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

     

     

    Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.

     

     

     

    FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.

     

     

    Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Fox News??? NICE DEFLECTION, now read the article link!

    To compile its annual reports, the FBI relies on state and local police departments to voluntarily submit crime data. While participation has never been 100%, this year it was especially low,

     

    The latest FBI report excludes nine states due insufficient reporting: California, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, and Pennsylvania an_light

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    Fox News??? NICE DEFLECTION, now read the article link!

    To compile its annual reports, the FBI relies on state and local police departments to voluntarily submit crime data. While participation has never been 100%, this year it was especially low,

     

    The latest FBI report excludes nine states due insufficient reporting: California, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, and Pennsylvania an_light

     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fentanyls-scourge-plainly-visible-streets-152256694.html

    an_lightNotice how they never tell you how the vast majority of fentanyl enters our country. an_light

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fentanyls-scourge-plainly-visible-streets-152256694.html

    an_lightNotice how they never tell you how the vast majority of fentanyl enters our country. an_light

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Zeus4par]Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.       FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.     Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.[/Quote]

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Zeus4par]Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.       FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.     Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.[/Quote]

     

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    That's it, take a tragedy and use it to create hate for your own political gain. 

     

    After shooting and no suspect identified;

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted: "We must stand up to bigotry and hate wherever they rear their ugly heads, and we must keep working to stop gun violence." 

    Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Saturday’s shooting was "A horrific example of needless gun violence. With bigotry toward AAPI (Asian American Pacific Islander) individuals as a possible motive." 

    On twitter;

    This tragedy is beyond hate. We are broken as a nation to have mass shootings and white supremacy reign terror.

    THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ASIAN MAN, 30-50 YEARS OLD.

    The suspect has apparently killed himself.

     

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    That's it, take a tragedy and use it to create hate for your own political gain. 

     

    After shooting and no suspect identified;

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted: "We must stand up to bigotry and hate wherever they rear their ugly heads, and we must keep working to stop gun violence." 

    Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Saturday’s shooting was "A horrific example of needless gun violence. With bigotry toward AAPI (Asian American Pacific Islander) individuals as a possible motive." 

    On twitter;

    This tragedy is beyond hate. We are broken as a nation to have mass shootings and white supremacy reign terror.

    THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ASIAN MAN, 30-50 YEARS OLD.

    The suspect has apparently killed himself.

     

     
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    Better add Bloomberg to your list of lies and distorts as they fail here to tow the party line;

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-05/murder-rate-mystery-new-fbi-crime-stats-don-t-include-nyc-la

    The FBI’s latest crime report shows violent crime dropped in 2021, but there are a few gaps in the data -- like New York and Los Angeles. surprised

    With so many agencies failing to report a full year of data for 2021, this year’s annual crime data release will have significant blind spots,” an_light

     

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    Better add Bloomberg to your list of lies and distorts as they fail here to tow the party line;

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-05/murder-rate-mystery-new-fbi-crime-stats-don-t-include-nyc-la

    The FBI’s latest crime report shows violent crime dropped in 2021, but there are a few gaps in the data -- like New York and Los Angeles. surprised

    With so many agencies failing to report a full year of data for 2021, this year’s annual crime data release will have significant blind spots,” an_light

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.       FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.     Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.

     

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    Oh man, WTF? confused

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Red states have more violent crime rates. Eight out top ten states with violent crime rate are from the red states.       FBI report 7 of 10 states with lowest rates of violent crimes vote democrat.  Public perception about crime is at odds with reality.  Republicans try to exploit the misconception that crime is a big city blue state problem.  But Oklahoma is actually worse than New York.  During election campaigns, Fox news promote myth of national crime wave out of control despite no proof of significant increase in crimes.     Of course Fox News lies and distorts.  That's what they are very well known for.

     

      Monterey Park               10 americans massacred

     

    Oh man, WTF? confused

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, are searching for at least one suspect involved in a nightclub shooting that left a dozen people injured, according to L’Jean McKneely, Baton Rouge Police Department spokesperson.

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    Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, are searching for at least one suspect involved in a nightclub shooting that left a dozen people injured, according to L’Jean McKneely, Baton Rouge Police Department spokesperson.

     
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    Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms.  Mass shootings are caused by mental illness.  Gun violence happens everywhere.  An armed population is a safer population.  Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings.  Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones.  Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes.  Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment.

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    Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms.  Mass shootings are caused by mental illness.  Gun violence happens everywhere.  An armed population is a safer population.  Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings.  Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones.  Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes.  Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms. 

    Mass shootings are caused by mental illness. 

    Gun violence happens everywhere. 

    An armed population is a safer population. 

    Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings. 

    Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones. 

    Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes. 

    Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment.

    Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.     72 yr old shooter Huu Can Tran had previously gone to police to report someone was trying to poison him. CHECK! an_light

    Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings rather allow illegal shooters to have the advantage. Huu Can Tran had a high capacity magazine on his pistol that is illegal in California. CHECK! an_light

    The 2018 mass shooting at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks also had illegal high capacity magazines.

    It doesnt take a "gun lobby" to see what is happening. Nobody brainwashes me, see for myself. Gun laws will not stop the violence. And that word "criminal justice reform" is a false term that really means "criminal leniency". 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms. 

    Mass shootings are caused by mental illness. 

    Gun violence happens everywhere. 

    An armed population is a safer population. 

    Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings. 

    Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones. 

    Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes. 

    Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment.

    Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.     72 yr old shooter Huu Can Tran had previously gone to police to report someone was trying to poison him. CHECK! an_light

    Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings rather allow illegal shooters to have the advantage. Huu Can Tran had a high capacity magazine on his pistol that is illegal in California. CHECK! an_light

    The 2018 mass shooting at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks also had illegal high capacity magazines.

    It doesnt take a "gun lobby" to see what is happening. Nobody brainwashes me, see for myself. Gun laws will not stop the violence. And that word "criminal justice reform" is a false term that really means "criminal leniency". 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, are searching for at least one suspect involved in a nightclub shooting that left a dozen people injured, according to L’Jean McKneely, Baton Rouge Police Department spokesperson.

     

     

    Still another gun related incident where 12 people are shot

     

     

     

     

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    Police in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, are searching for at least one suspect involved in a nightclub shooting that left a dozen people injured, according to L’Jean McKneely, Baton Rouge Police Department spokesperson.

     

     

    Still another gun related incident where 12 people are shot

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

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    Posted: Jan. 23, 2023 - 10:38 AM ET #746

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/man-disarmed-monterey-park-shooter-132100767.html

    The night was winding down after a Lunar Near Year celebration at the Lai Lai Ballroom & Studio in Alhambra, California, on Saturday, when Brandon Tsay heard the front door click close behind him.

     

    "That's when I turned around and saw that there was an Asian man holding a gun. My first thought was I was going to die here, this is it," Tsay, 26, told ABC News' Robin Roberts during an interview Monday on "Good Morning America."

    Tsay, who helps run the dance hall with his family, said the gunman was "looking around the room" as if he was "looking for targets -- people to harm."

    "He started prepping the weapon and something came over me," Tsay recalled. "I realized I needed to get the weapon away from him. I needed to take this weapon, disarm him or else everybody would have died."

    "When I got the courage, I lunged at him with both my hands, grabbed the weapon and we had a struggle," he added. "We struggled into the lobby, trying to get this gun away from each other. He was hitting me across the face, bashing the back of my head."

    Tsay said he used his elbows to separate the gun from the suspect during the struggle until, finally, he was able to pull the weapon away and shove the man aside. Tsay said he then pointed the gun at the suspect and shouted: "Get the hell out of here! I'll shoot! Get away! Go!"

    "I thought he would run away, but he was just standing there contemplating whether to fight or to run," Tsay recalled. "I really thought I would have to shoot him and he came at me. This is when he turned around and walked out the door, jogged back to his van. I immediately called police with the gun still in my hand."

     

    Tsay was lucky the shooter needed to "prep" his weapon, was 72 yrs old, and didn't have more than one weapon.

     

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    The night was winding down after a Lunar Near Year celebration at the Lai Lai Ballroom & Studio in Alhambra, California, on Saturday, when Brandon Tsay heard the front door click close behind him.

     

    "That's when I turned around and saw that there was an Asian man holding a gun. My first thought was I was going to die here, this is it," Tsay, 26, told ABC News' Robin Roberts during an interview Monday on "Good Morning America."

    Tsay, who helps run the dance hall with his family, said the gunman was "looking around the room" as if he was "looking for targets -- people to harm."

    "He started prepping the weapon and something came over me," Tsay recalled. "I realized I needed to get the weapon away from him. I needed to take this weapon, disarm him or else everybody would have died."

    "When I got the courage, I lunged at him with both my hands, grabbed the weapon and we had a struggle," he added. "We struggled into the lobby, trying to get this gun away from each other. He was hitting me across the face, bashing the back of my head."

    Tsay said he used his elbows to separate the gun from the suspect during the struggle until, finally, he was able to pull the weapon away and shove the man aside. Tsay said he then pointed the gun at the suspect and shouted: "Get the hell out of here! I'll shoot! Get away! Go!"

    "I thought he would run away, but he was just standing there contemplating whether to fight or to run," Tsay recalled. "I really thought I would have to shoot him and he came at me. This is when he turned around and walked out the door, jogged back to his van. I immediately called police with the gun still in my hand."

     

    Tsay was lucky the shooter needed to "prep" his weapon, was 72 yrs old, and didn't have more than one weapon.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.    Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings

    Lack of evidence to suggest mental illness is to blame for mass shootings.  Every country has mental illnesses but US is the only country with daily mass shootings.   FBI reports most mass shooters aren't diagnosed with mental illness.  4% of US gun violence can be attributed to mental illness according to American journal of psychiatry.

    Rising violent crimes are largely driven by increase in gun homicides according to Center for disease control.  Clifford law center reveals that states with weakest gun laws have the highest homicide rates.  Moreover countries with strong gun control tend to have less gun violence.

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    Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.    Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings

    Lack of evidence to suggest mental illness is to blame for mass shootings.  Every country has mental illnesses but US is the only country with daily mass shootings.   FBI reports most mass shooters aren't diagnosed with mental illness.  4% of US gun violence can be attributed to mental illness according to American journal of psychiatry.

    Rising violent crimes are largely driven by increase in gun homicides according to Center for disease control.  Clifford law center reveals that states with weakest gun laws have the highest homicide rates.  Moreover countries with strong gun control tend to have less gun violence.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    That's it, take a tragedy and use it to create hate for your own political gain.    After shooting and no suspect identified; Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted: "We must stand up to bigotry and hate wherever they rear their ugly heads, and we must keep working to stop gun violence."  Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Saturday’s shooting was "A horrific example of needless gun violence. With bigotry toward AAPI (Asian American Pacific Islander) individuals as a possible motive."  On twitter; This tragedy is beyond hate. We are broken as a nation to have mass shootings and white supremacy reign terror. THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ASIAN MAN, 30-50 YEARS OLD. The suspect has apparently killed himself.

     

    These turds are the problem. They lie with impunity and these boobs suck it up like a tasty fart.

    Schiff should be thrown from government never mind given committees.

    There is zero integrity in Schumer and Schiff, It's all pandering to the fools who vote for them

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    That's it, take a tragedy and use it to create hate for your own political gain.    After shooting and no suspect identified; Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., tweeted: "We must stand up to bigotry and hate wherever they rear their ugly heads, and we must keep working to stop gun violence."  Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Saturday’s shooting was "A horrific example of needless gun violence. With bigotry toward AAPI (Asian American Pacific Islander) individuals as a possible motive."  On twitter; This tragedy is beyond hate. We are broken as a nation to have mass shootings and white supremacy reign terror. THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN ASIAN MAN, 30-50 YEARS OLD. The suspect has apparently killed himself.

     

    These turds are the problem. They lie with impunity and these boobs suck it up like a tasty fart.

    Schiff should be thrown from government never mind given committees.

    There is zero integrity in Schumer and Schiff, It's all pandering to the fools who vote for them

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Lack of evidence to suggest mental illness is to blame for mass shootings. 

    Every country has mental illnesses an_lightbut US is the only country with daily mass shootings.  

    FBI reports most mass shooters aren't diagnosed with mental illness.  4% of US gun violence can be attributed to mental illness according to American journal of psychiatry.

    peace_5 Pretty much sums up the key point right there.

    Thank you Thirdperson for presenting the key facts.

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    Lack of evidence to suggest mental illness is to blame for mass shootings. 

    Every country has mental illnesses an_lightbut US is the only country with daily mass shootings.  

    FBI reports most mass shooters aren't diagnosed with mental illness.  4% of US gun violence can be attributed to mental illness according to American journal of psychiatry.

    peace_5 Pretty much sums up the key point right there.

    Thank you Thirdperson for presenting the key facts.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms.  Mass shootings are caused by mental illness.  Gun violence happens everywhere.  An armed population is a safer population.  Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings.  Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones.  Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes.  Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment. Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.     72 yr old shooter Huu Can Tran had previously gone to police to report someone was trying to poison him. CHECK!  Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings rather allow illegal shooters to have the advantage. Huu Can Tran had a high capacity magazine on his pistol that is illegal in California. CHECK!  The 2018 mass shooting at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks also had illegal high capacity magazines. It doesnt take a "gun lobby" to see what is happening. Nobody brainwashes me, see for myself. Gun laws will not stop the violence. And that word "criminal justice reform" is a false term that really means "criminal leniency".

    these can't be real people

    children maybe

    but I sometimes just think bots that have been programmed to constantly spew dem BS

    You aren't spewing conservative shit, only trying to balance these unbalanced.

    opposing facts are instantly dismissed or ignored. Maybe a tiny brain can't take in more info than it's already been jammed with.

    I would like to see these guys do math puzzles or brainteasers an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Gun lobby usually promotes 7 myths to undermine common sense gun reforms.  Mass shootings are caused by mental illness.  Gun violence happens everywhere.  An armed population is a safer population.  Hardening places with security measures will deter mass shootings.  Mass shooters are more likely to target gun free zones.  Criminal justice reform movement is to blame for increase in violent crimes.  Gun laws violate freedoms under the second amendment. Mass shootings often involve those mentally ill.     72 yr old shooter Huu Can Tran had previously gone to police to report someone was trying to poison him. CHECK!  Gun laws do not prevent mass shootings rather allow illegal shooters to have the advantage. Huu Can Tran had a high capacity magazine on his pistol that is illegal in California. CHECK!  The 2018 mass shooting at the Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks also had illegal high capacity magazines. It doesnt take a "gun lobby" to see what is happening. Nobody brainwashes me, see for myself. Gun laws will not stop the violence. And that word "criminal justice reform" is a false term that really means "criminal leniency".

    these can't be real people

    children maybe

    but I sometimes just think bots that have been programmed to constantly spew dem BS

    You aren't spewing conservative shit, only trying to balance these unbalanced.

    opposing facts are instantly dismissed or ignored. Maybe a tiny brain can't take in more info than it's already been jammed with.

    I would like to see these guys do math puzzles or brainteasers an_roll_laugh

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