did you see what is the religious of Hillary? methodist?
honestly Mankind will be much better without Religious
before I could agree it was usefull for people but now?perhaps it could help poor people in the world again?
now it is often OR people who have great succes in their lives they believes god give him to them or it is weakness and poor hangry people in the world who need that to have a believe in their live
mid class often don t believe anymore( religious)
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did you see what is the religious of Hillary? methodist?
honestly Mankind will be much better without Religious
before I could agree it was usefull for people but now?perhaps it could help poor people in the world again?
now it is often OR people who have great succes in their lives they believes god give him to them or it is weakness and poor hangry people in the world who need that to have a believe in their live
besides vt sanders could win in massachussettes. the democrats must be getting a little worried with turn out so low in the early primary states........
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besides vt sanders could win in massachussettes. the democrats must be getting a little worried with turn out so low in the early primary states........
I think people who don t want trump choice for republican need to make their choose between cruz and rubio
If republicans party want not trump they need a realy second man either rubio or cruz and others needs to drop out after this super tuesday it is the only way I think if they want to beat trump
time is not republican party friend now but time is trump's friend!!
I am not an expert but it is my insights or super delecatd should cheat on trump in the end but less possible
I like trump but I saw documentary on him, this workers are a lot stangers and paid very bad (sure otherwije how could had been rich?)for them and he didn t agree with syndicate?
he has earned a lots money with casino in las vegas but his other casino is close to bankrutpticy
it is pitty trump has not bernie mentality for econmics otherwijse it should be perfect president for usa and great for the world. but if we want to be honest trump doesn t care of anybody he only care about his ego he will never defend small people
he loves everybody but he loves nobody in reality
realy few people become rich without profit on smal people
but he is the most franc and carismatic of all that is sure!
I don t like so much "sister smile hillary" smile to everybody could not be true! we will see if she took his promise about UFO files!
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I think people who don t want trump choice for republican need to make their choose between cruz and rubio
If republicans party want not trump they need a realy second man either rubio or cruz and others needs to drop out after this super tuesday it is the only way I think if they want to beat trump
time is not republican party friend now but time is trump's friend!!
I am not an expert but it is my insights or super delecatd should cheat on trump in the end but less possible
I like trump but I saw documentary on him, this workers are a lot stangers and paid very bad (sure otherwije how could had been rich?)for them and he didn t agree with syndicate?
he has earned a lots money with casino in las vegas but his other casino is close to bankrutpticy
it is pitty trump has not bernie mentality for econmics otherwijse it should be perfect president for usa and great for the world. but if we want to be honest trump doesn t care of anybody he only care about his ego he will never defend small people
he loves everybody but he loves nobody in reality
realy few people become rich without profit on smal people
but he is the most franc and carismatic of all that is sure!
I don t like so much "sister smile hillary" smile to everybody could not be true! we will see if she took his promise about UFO files!
the republicans are in division Mitch McConnel establishment gop vs tea party Hostile take over. the dominoes started to fall with cantor house majority whip loosing in the primaries.
The scales are tipping as establishment in the house encountering fierce opposition in the primaries.
The backlash hasnt hit the senate as much but deep concerns over the shape of the party is unfolding.
The Gop is evolving to a more personal libertarian stance.
this same move happened when Theadore Roosevelt disrupted going into a independent Progressive Party The bull Moose party.
This time is different as the large players are starting to take tea party stradegists seriously, and the take over has begun to sink in as Donald can easily win the GOP nomination with session no light weight with in the party ranks has fully endorsed Mr. Trump
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the republicans are in division Mitch McConnel establishment gop vs tea party Hostile take over. the dominoes started to fall with cantor house majority whip loosing in the primaries.
The scales are tipping as establishment in the house encountering fierce opposition in the primaries.
The backlash hasnt hit the senate as much but deep concerns over the shape of the party is unfolding.
The Gop is evolving to a more personal libertarian stance.
this same move happened when Theadore Roosevelt disrupted going into a independent Progressive Party The bull Moose party.
This time is different as the large players are starting to take tea party stradegists seriously, and the take over has begun to sink in as Donald can easily win the GOP nomination with session no light weight with in the party ranks has fully endorsed Mr. Trump
Wow this got sidetracked, where is the betting talk?
It's impossible in here to not have people throw in their political opinions. I try, but...
As far as betting, I'm not doing anything just yet. Probably going to start loading up on Hillary to win the general. Looking at the electoral college and the Republican Party right now, she's got a much easier road than Trump. Trump is going to have a hard time winning when some of the republican senators won't support him.
Not sure what the odds are going to be tomorrow, but that's where I'm looking. I've already got one ticket on her, but I'll have more coming soon.
I've gone over the electoral college several times, and read a lot on it (it's funny how democrat and republican polling are sure the swing states will go in their favor), but based on the articles I trust the most they seem to lay out the most likely plan for her.
This isn't a political statement...just a betting opinion. I have republican and democrat bets, and I will have states betting for both sides. All betting opinions welcome, but please keep it to betting markets. (Handshake emoji)
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Wow this got sidetracked, where is the betting talk?
It's impossible in here to not have people throw in their political opinions. I try, but...
As far as betting, I'm not doing anything just yet. Probably going to start loading up on Hillary to win the general. Looking at the electoral college and the Republican Party right now, she's got a much easier road than Trump. Trump is going to have a hard time winning when some of the republican senators won't support him.
Not sure what the odds are going to be tomorrow, but that's where I'm looking. I've already got one ticket on her, but I'll have more coming soon.
I've gone over the electoral college several times, and read a lot on it (it's funny how democrat and republican polling are sure the swing states will go in their favor), but based on the articles I trust the most they seem to lay out the most likely plan for her.
This isn't a political statement...just a betting opinion. I have republican and democrat bets, and I will have states betting for both sides. All betting opinions welcome, but please keep it to betting markets. (Handshake emoji)
i am poor at this i apologize alan i am emotionally invested in defeating Hillary. not the ambassador but the former seals that died.
tears me up
Totally understand. She's no saint. None of them at that level are. Hopefully, you don't let the emotion affect your bankroll. I have lots of emotions and opinions on politics, but I'm just in here to make some for me and anyone else who wants to follow.
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:
i am poor at this i apologize alan i am emotionally invested in defeating Hillary. not the ambassador but the former seals that died.
tears me up
Totally understand. She's no saint. None of them at that level are. Hopefully, you don't let the emotion affect your bankroll. I have lots of emotions and opinions on politics, but I'm just in here to make some for me and anyone else who wants to follow.
It's impossible in here to not have people throw in their political opinions. I try, but...
As far as betting, I'm not doing anything just yet. Probably going to start loading up on Hillary to win the general. Looking at the electoral college and the Republican Party right now, she's got a much easier road than Trump. Trump is going to have a hard time winning when some of the republican senators won't support him.
Not sure what the odds are going to be tomorrow, but that's where I'm looking. I've already got one ticket on her, but I'll have more coming soon.
I've gone over the electoral college several times, and read a lot on it (it's funny how democrat and republican polling are sure the swing states will go in their favor), but based on the articles I trust the most they seem to lay out the most likely plan for her.
This isn't a political statement...just a betting opinion. I have republican and democrat bets, and I will have states betting for both sides. All betting opinions welcome, but please keep it to betting markets. (Handshake emoji)
I'm actually not sure of the way to go In terms of money.
Based on past elections I would think u would want to wait for the buy low point for Hillary. Anything even money or better is a worth a bet.
Trump for presidency probably had better odds long ago so at this point the odds are t worth it. But will the GOP be gullible enough to have him represent them in the presidential race? I think that's a decent bet but similar to the presidential odds the time to bet on trump has probably sailed based on odds.
Betting on Bernie is dumb, betting on a GOP like Cruz or Rubio might have a chance and worth a small bet.
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Quote Originally Posted by alangrrbs:
It's impossible in here to not have people throw in their political opinions. I try, but...
As far as betting, I'm not doing anything just yet. Probably going to start loading up on Hillary to win the general. Looking at the electoral college and the Republican Party right now, she's got a much easier road than Trump. Trump is going to have a hard time winning when some of the republican senators won't support him.
Not sure what the odds are going to be tomorrow, but that's where I'm looking. I've already got one ticket on her, but I'll have more coming soon.
I've gone over the electoral college several times, and read a lot on it (it's funny how democrat and republican polling are sure the swing states will go in their favor), but based on the articles I trust the most they seem to lay out the most likely plan for her.
This isn't a political statement...just a betting opinion. I have republican and democrat bets, and I will have states betting for both sides. All betting opinions welcome, but please keep it to betting markets. (Handshake emoji)
I'm actually not sure of the way to go In terms of money.
Based on past elections I would think u would want to wait for the buy low point for Hillary. Anything even money or better is a worth a bet.
Trump for presidency probably had better odds long ago so at this point the odds are t worth it. But will the GOP be gullible enough to have him represent them in the presidential race? I think that's a decent bet but similar to the presidential odds the time to bet on trump has probably sailed based on odds.
Betting on Bernie is dumb, betting on a GOP like Cruz or Rubio might have a chance and worth a small bet.
I've heard enough chatter and thought about things to consider where the Republican race is at and the Democratic one. It's rare people agree with me so that's fine. I'll just provide my input as I believe the races have shaped up.
Republican: Trump is going to win the nomination and in fact, I actually think it'll be with a majority, rather than the convention everyone believes will occur. It does depend somewhat on whether he wins some important states. Even if it does manage to go to a convention, do the top strategists in the GOP party really think it's wise to piss off the voters and tell them that they don't matter?
Nominating someone like Rubio who might win 10 to 15 states at best and I'm being very generous with that, isn't going to convince the American people the right decision is being made. They will revolt and chaos will ensue. I saw footage from 1968 when the Democratic National Convention resulted in violence. Perhaps the Republicans should be trying to unify behind Trump. I think they made a mistake in waiting so long to attack him and to overtly tell voters that they don't know what they're doing when they support him.
Democrats: The media has been telling people for months that Hillary is the correct choice. I think Americans are smart enough to see how the process has played out. I almost believed what I was hearing, in fact, I jumped to conclusions and completely wrote Bernie off after Nevada and South Carolina. Then I thought about it more and considered what did the campaigns expect to get out of Super Tuesday? Well, according to what I heard, both campaigns pretty much hit their marks on that day. Bernie was never going to win southern states and the campaign didn't even bother to spend money in more than half the states contested. They essentially conceded places they thought spending their money would be wasted.
What's interesting is that Hillary beat Obama 55% to 38% in Massachusetts back in 2008. Bernie lost to Hillary 50% to 48%. Also, as one of the advisors for Sanders mentioned, he won some of the states that are considered battleground states. It brings me to a couple of points to elaborate on what I talked about in a previous post. The discussion about how Sanders polls with Hispanics and African-Americans might actually be overblown more than I realized. As the candidates move into the midwest and western states, some that aren't nearly as diverse in terms of electorate, how will Hillary fare?
She's not beating Bernie with young voters or independents, both things I did believe were a problem. What I failed to realize is that Hillary hasn't really narrowed the gap enough, just as Bernie has been trying to do with minorities. She has more work to do. In states that Bernie campaigns heavily in or spends money in, he'll narrow the gap somewhat with the Hispanics and African-American. The numbers only look so extreme in some of those southern states because his campaign didn't bother. I think they'll try in the rest of the states, which is when we'll really get a better idea of how things shake up.
I admit I still consider Hillary the frontrunner but Bernie could win enough states to possibly get a convention, maybe even exceed my expectations if voters are persuaded enough when he visits their states.
(As an aside, I believe that John Lewis was asked by Hillary Clinton to do a political favor for her in order to solidify her support with African-Americans. She asked him to question the legitimacy of his record on civil rights. I feel this way because of a few things. His countenance had an expression of being slightly uncomfortable when he delivered his endorsement for the PAC in Congress that day.
He did not speak with conviction about being so sure that Bernie lacked authenticity. In fact, if he really thought that was a possibility, why would he suddenly bring it up then? Wouldn't he bring it up months before when Bernie was starting to emerge as a contender? I especially wondered about this when Lewis said he's worked with Sanders before in the House and knows him.
I came to this conclusion after Rachel Maddow asked Lewis to clarify his remarks about Sanders, which really should have been done the next day if the media was covering this race fairly. He said that he only meant that he didn't meet Sanders during those times, not that he didn't actively protest back then. That made me realize what I had a hunch about weeks ago may actually be right.)
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I've heard enough chatter and thought about things to consider where the Republican race is at and the Democratic one. It's rare people agree with me so that's fine. I'll just provide my input as I believe the races have shaped up.
Republican: Trump is going to win the nomination and in fact, I actually think it'll be with a majority, rather than the convention everyone believes will occur. It does depend somewhat on whether he wins some important states. Even if it does manage to go to a convention, do the top strategists in the GOP party really think it's wise to piss off the voters and tell them that they don't matter?
Nominating someone like Rubio who might win 10 to 15 states at best and I'm being very generous with that, isn't going to convince the American people the right decision is being made. They will revolt and chaos will ensue. I saw footage from 1968 when the Democratic National Convention resulted in violence. Perhaps the Republicans should be trying to unify behind Trump. I think they made a mistake in waiting so long to attack him and to overtly tell voters that they don't know what they're doing when they support him.
Democrats: The media has been telling people for months that Hillary is the correct choice. I think Americans are smart enough to see how the process has played out. I almost believed what I was hearing, in fact, I jumped to conclusions and completely wrote Bernie off after Nevada and South Carolina. Then I thought about it more and considered what did the campaigns expect to get out of Super Tuesday? Well, according to what I heard, both campaigns pretty much hit their marks on that day. Bernie was never going to win southern states and the campaign didn't even bother to spend money in more than half the states contested. They essentially conceded places they thought spending their money would be wasted.
What's interesting is that Hillary beat Obama 55% to 38% in Massachusetts back in 2008. Bernie lost to Hillary 50% to 48%. Also, as one of the advisors for Sanders mentioned, he won some of the states that are considered battleground states. It brings me to a couple of points to elaborate on what I talked about in a previous post. The discussion about how Sanders polls with Hispanics and African-Americans might actually be overblown more than I realized. As the candidates move into the midwest and western states, some that aren't nearly as diverse in terms of electorate, how will Hillary fare?
She's not beating Bernie with young voters or independents, both things I did believe were a problem. What I failed to realize is that Hillary hasn't really narrowed the gap enough, just as Bernie has been trying to do with minorities. She has more work to do. In states that Bernie campaigns heavily in or spends money in, he'll narrow the gap somewhat with the Hispanics and African-American. The numbers only look so extreme in some of those southern states because his campaign didn't bother. I think they'll try in the rest of the states, which is when we'll really get a better idea of how things shake up.
I admit I still consider Hillary the frontrunner but Bernie could win enough states to possibly get a convention, maybe even exceed my expectations if voters are persuaded enough when he visits their states.
(As an aside, I believe that John Lewis was asked by Hillary Clinton to do a political favor for her in order to solidify her support with African-Americans. She asked him to question the legitimacy of his record on civil rights. I feel this way because of a few things. His countenance had an expression of being slightly uncomfortable when he delivered his endorsement for the PAC in Congress that day.
He did not speak with conviction about being so sure that Bernie lacked authenticity. In fact, if he really thought that was a possibility, why would he suddenly bring it up then? Wouldn't he bring it up months before when Bernie was starting to emerge as a contender? I especially wondered about this when Lewis said he's worked with Sanders before in the House and knows him.
I came to this conclusion after Rachel Maddow asked Lewis to clarify his remarks about Sanders, which really should have been done the next day if the media was covering this race fairly. He said that he only meant that he didn't meet Sanders during those times, not that he didn't actively protest back then. That made me realize what I had a hunch about weeks ago may actually be right.)
anyway I will perhaps bet @17 as if he win republican he will win against clinton and the odds will down so possibilty to cover at this match up against clinton
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Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:
Does Cruz odds @51 is not big value??
If on the next vote in 15fev, Cruz won or second and Rubio don t win so Cruz will be the best value on my mind!
ok trump is favorite now but if Rubio lost again it will have a lot of pression to drop out and endorse cruz
we need to look eyes on kasih and carson decision, if they will drop out and joins Cruz so it will confort my mind
I don t know them realy but if they drop out who do you think they could endorse? rubio, cruz or trump?
anyway I will perhaps bet @17 as if he win republican he will win against clinton and the odds will down so possibilty to cover at this match up against clinton
I see Cruz has some momentum and I suppose there must be value in some primaries with him but I I'm fairly confident the establishment isn't going to get behind Cruz if this does go to a convention. They want Rubio. Republicans/conservatives can tell me if I have this wrong, though.
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I see Cruz has some momentum and I suppose there must be value in some primaries with him but I I'm fairly confident the establishment isn't going to get behind Cruz if this does go to a convention. They want Rubio. Republicans/conservatives can tell me if I have this wrong, though.
Bernie at plus money on the Ohio and Illinois primaries are good bets right now. Polls used to show Hillary with huge leads, but recent polls show its real close. I think it's worth the shot. I wouldn't take much better odds but right now it's a pretty good value.
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Bernie at plus money on the Ohio and Illinois primaries are good bets right now. Polls used to show Hillary with huge leads, but recent polls show its real close. I think it's worth the shot. I wouldn't take much better odds but right now it's a pretty good value.
I see Cruz has some momentum and I suppose there must be value in some primaries with him but I I'm fairly confident the establishment isn't going to get behind Cruz if this does go to a convention. They want Rubio. Republicans/conservatives can tell me if I have this wrong, though.
My insight are if Kasich could win his own state and Rubio drop out so Kasish will be the man of establishment.... he beat Hillary on the pool (and bernie) so he will be the plan B no other choice for them I just see him on tv he was on this house speaking to the press and he just speak like a "president"
I will check first projection pool live and if it goes on this way I will put little money on him to be nominee for republican AND next usa president... trump is not longer interesting to bet and I don t have feeling on cruz so odds are good value on kasich on my mind @11 republican nominee and @31 for president..
wait and see...
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Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:
I see Cruz has some momentum and I suppose there must be value in some primaries with him but I I'm fairly confident the establishment isn't going to get behind Cruz if this does go to a convention. They want Rubio. Republicans/conservatives can tell me if I have this wrong, though.
My insight are if Kasich could win his own state and Rubio drop out so Kasish will be the man of establishment.... he beat Hillary on the pool (and bernie) so he will be the plan B no other choice for them I just see him on tv he was on this house speaking to the press and he just speak like a "president"
I will check first projection pool live and if it goes on this way I will put little money on him to be nominee for republican AND next usa president... trump is not longer interesting to bet and I don t have feeling on cruz so odds are good value on kasich on my mind @11 republican nominee and @31 for president..
My insight are if Kasich could win his own state and Rubio drop out so Kasish will be the man of establishment.... he beat Hillary on the pool (and bernie) so he will be the plan B no other choice for them I just see him on tv he was on this house speaking to the press and he just speak like a "president"
I will check first projection pool live and if it goes on this way I will put little money on him to be nominee for republican AND next usa president... trump is not longer interesting to bet and I don t have feeling on cruz so odds are good value on kasich on my mind @11 republican nominee and @31 for president..
wait and see...
Yeah, I read your post before the results and agreed with what you're saying. I didn't expect Rubio to suspend his campaign, though. He did worse than I ever thought from the beginning. I had been telling my friend for months he had no chance to be the nominee.
I also think it's over for Sanders but I will say that he probably made a path for a socialistic candidate to come along in the future. He did pretty well considering nobody knew about him before. I think these voters who are siding with Clinton because she can get things done and is more practical are delusional. The GOP won't negotiate with her at all and without a 60-vote majority in the Senate, none of the policies she's pushing for will pass. Of course, most voters are uninformed so they don't even realize it.
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Quote Originally Posted by schmeto:
My insight are if Kasich could win his own state and Rubio drop out so Kasish will be the man of establishment.... he beat Hillary on the pool (and bernie) so he will be the plan B no other choice for them I just see him on tv he was on this house speaking to the press and he just speak like a "president"
I will check first projection pool live and if it goes on this way I will put little money on him to be nominee for republican AND next usa president... trump is not longer interesting to bet and I don t have feeling on cruz so odds are good value on kasich on my mind @11 republican nominee and @31 for president..
wait and see...
Yeah, I read your post before the results and agreed with what you're saying. I didn't expect Rubio to suspend his campaign, though. He did worse than I ever thought from the beginning. I had been telling my friend for months he had no chance to be the nominee.
I also think it's over for Sanders but I will say that he probably made a path for a socialistic candidate to come along in the future. He did pretty well considering nobody knew about him before. I think these voters who are siding with Clinton because she can get things done and is more practical are delusional. The GOP won't negotiate with her at all and without a 60-vote majority in the Senate, none of the policies she's pushing for will pass. Of course, most voters are uninformed so they don't even realize it.
do you see how many possibilities are possibles? that is just " Hillarous"
If GOP will not nominee trump said he could run as an indepedant?lol
Rubio could back
in fact it is the party who choose the nominee not voters, that is not a real democraty trump have right when he say it will have riot, people don t know about that that just amazing
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do you see how many possibilities are possibles? that is just " Hillarous"
If GOP will not nominee trump said he could run as an indepedant?lol
Rubio could back
in fact it is the party who choose the nominee not voters, that is not a real democraty trump have right when he say it will have riot, people don t know about that that just amazing
I am not sure if +260 will hit, but GOP establishment is campaigning so hard to stop Trump as their Presidential Nominee.
Trump's odds has been knocked down by almost 10 cents from only days ago of -320 to -265, it seems GOP Establishment has been gaining ground on stopping him in the Nomination.
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Donald Trump is Republican Nominee -320
Field wins Republican Nomination at +260 ?
I am not sure if +260 will hit, but GOP establishment is campaigning so hard to stop Trump as their Presidential Nominee.
Trump's odds has been knocked down by almost 10 cents from only days ago of -320 to -265, it seems GOP Establishment has been gaining ground on stopping him in the Nomination.
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