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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 8:31 PM ET #426

    Hope this will settle the bullshit in this thread once & for all....

    The deposition began with Archer testifying that he could not authenticate any of the emails or documents purported to be from the hard drive on Hunter's laptop. P.23, 90.

    Hunter said he had no control over his father's schedule or what he would say about Ukraine during foreign policy statements as VP, but he falsely claimed credit to his business partners in Ukraine for Biden's trip to the country to impress them. P.25.

    Archer was shown a document from the laptop showing that when Burisma was under investigation by Ukrainian authorities, an executive asked them to get "DC help." This was a passage House Republicans claimed referenced Joe. However, Archer said what was meant by that was for him them to retain a lobbying firm in DC, which they later did. P.34-35.

    There was a phone call referenced on the laptop allegedly between Hunter and Joe where a Burisma executive was present. When asked about it, Archer said the executive told him that was a call, but he had no first hand knowledge if it actually took place and he was not present. P. 36-37.

    Archer testified that in the 10 years he knew Hunter, he would speak to his father "every day." Each would call each other. When asked what the conversations were about, he said the weather, fishing, describing the city they were in, the places they went to, etc. He said business was never discussed. P. 39, 52.

    He said Hunter put his father on speaker phone during dinners they were having with clients. He said this happened on about 20 occasions over 10 years and business was never discussed, only pleasantries. P. 41.

    Archer said once when they were in China meeting with a client Hunter put Joe on speaker phone. Again, no business was discussed. P. 69.

    When asked if he ever met Joe Biden, he said he once got a White House tour with his son where he spoke to the VP about his second-grade paper Mache project. P. 77.

    Archer said at no time did Joe Biden communicate in any way with Burisma board members during their meetings. He said Joe Biden never had any involvement with Burisma in any way. P. 87, 104.

     

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    The deposition began with Archer testifying that he could not authenticate any of the emails or documents purported to be from the hard drive on Hunter's laptop. P.23, 90.

    Hunter said he had no control over his father's schedule or what he would say about Ukraine during foreign policy statements as VP, but he falsely claimed credit to his business partners in Ukraine for Biden's trip to the country to impress them. P.25.

    Archer was shown a document from the laptop showing that when Burisma was under investigation by Ukrainian authorities, an executive asked them to get "DC help." This was a passage House Republicans claimed referenced Joe. However, Archer said what was meant by that was for him them to retain a lobbying firm in DC, which they later did. P.34-35.

    There was a phone call referenced on the laptop allegedly between Hunter and Joe where a Burisma executive was present. When asked about it, Archer said the executive told him that was a call, but he had no first hand knowledge if it actually took place and he was not present. P. 36-37.

    Archer testified that in the 10 years he knew Hunter, he would speak to his father "every day." Each would call each other. When asked what the conversations were about, he said the weather, fishing, describing the city they were in, the places they went to, etc. He said business was never discussed. P. 39, 52.

    He said Hunter put his father on speaker phone during dinners they were having with clients. He said this happened on about 20 occasions over 10 years and business was never discussed, only pleasantries. P. 41.

    Archer said once when they were in China meeting with a client Hunter put Joe on speaker phone. Again, no business was discussed. P. 69.

    When asked if he ever met Joe Biden, he said he once got a White House tour with his son where he spoke to the VP about his second-grade paper Mache project. P. 77.

    Archer said at no time did Joe Biden communicate in any way with Burisma board members during their meetings. He said Joe Biden never had any involvement with Burisma in any way. P. 87, 104.

     

     
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    CONTINUED...

    Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99.

    When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100.

    Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103.

    Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112.

    Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115.

    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

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    Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99.

    When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100.

    Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103.

    Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112.

    Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115.

    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 8:49 PM ET #428

    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up.

    Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

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    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up.

    Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 9:01 PM ET #429

    Ok. Hunter was hired and kept 9n because his dad was vp...news flash the vice presidency is the most powerless positio. In the entire government. 

    If the senate ties they can cast a tie breaking vite...oh and they certify the states ballots are certified and authentic tic...that's it that's all they have and Bea heart beat away from being The President. 

    The job was designed this way.

    So did Joe Biden engage a mobile to kill police and attempt to kill by hanging the vice president?

    Then what ever he better than Trump. 

    Trump instigated a mob to sack our capitol kill mame and damage capitol police held back the reinforcement until he knew pence and the ballot box was untouchable. 

    This is the best that party can offer....?

    Than they lose the general election.

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    Ok. Hunter was hired and kept 9n because his dad was vp...news flash the vice presidency is the most powerless positio. In the entire government. 

    If the senate ties they can cast a tie breaking vite...oh and they certify the states ballots are certified and authentic tic...that's it that's all they have and Bea heart beat away from being The President. 

    The job was designed this way.

    So did Joe Biden engage a mobile to kill police and attempt to kill by hanging the vice president?

    Then what ever he better than Trump. 

    Trump instigated a mob to sack our capitol kill mame and damage capitol police held back the reinforcement until he knew pence and the ballot box was untouchable. 

    This is the best that party can offer....?

    Than they lose the general election.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 9:08 PM ET #430

    Let's see this with clear lens.

    Every republican candidate at the lincoln dinner

    In Iowa all 12 of them stated I support the men in blue. The police the first responders the firefighters...

    I don't want to defend the police...except trump...Trump went on to justify killing capitol cops by saying I felt cheated....

    Is he even a republican.....

     

     

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    Let's see this with clear lens.

    Every republican candidate at the lincoln dinner

    In Iowa all 12 of them stated I support the men in blue. The police the first responders the firefighters...

    I don't want to defend the police...except trump...Trump went on to justify killing capitol cops by saying I felt cheated....

    Is he even a republican.....

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 9:17 PM ET #431

    Defend the police?

     

    Are you insane?

    No we need to increase funding.

    We expect our cops to be medics , social workers councilors We eed them to behave correctly in any circumstances no matter where whether on or off duty.

    We need them to bettet than anyone else .

    What can be described as their worst day.and conduct themselves I. Such a manner that they would be better than the trash that occupied the west wing.... 

    We need angels in uniform and that cant be done without years of training....

    We need angels...and we have none to spare as patrolman. 

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    Defend the police?

     

    Are you insane?

    No we need to increase funding.

    We expect our cops to be medics , social workers councilors We eed them to behave correctly in any circumstances no matter where whether on or off duty.

    We need them to bettet than anyone else .

    What can be described as their worst day.and conduct themselves I. Such a manner that they would be better than the trash that occupied the west wing.... 

    We need angels in uniform and that cant be done without years of training....

    We need angels...and we have none to spare as patrolman. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2023 - 9:45 PM ET #432

    Hammer . Nail . Coffin . Done . wallstreet talks the talk and walks all over your saltiness fuck….

    the yuks cuz I ain’t kiddin’ , or jokin’ , or laughin’ , now how quick will you asskisses be to quote him I ask this , with no vitriol or bias , or any lyin’ through the shit bridgework in my ivories , I strictly want you grown children to not deny him ….

    a response or an answer , or not vanish into thin air like Copperfield there’s laughter , but that’s not my intention , cuz as most of you know comedy isn’t calming and obviously it’s not pleasant ……

    when you become the targeted , or the punchline , there’s that rumbling in my stomach and guess what ? I’m starving it’s lunchtime ….

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    Hammer . Nail . Coffin . Done . wallstreet talks the talk and walks all over your saltiness fuck….

    the yuks cuz I ain’t kiddin’ , or jokin’ , or laughin’ , now how quick will you asskisses be to quote him I ask this , with no vitriol or bias , or any lyin’ through the shit bridgework in my ivories , I strictly want you grown children to not deny him ….

    a response or an answer , or not vanish into thin air like Copperfield there’s laughter , but that’s not my intention , cuz as most of you know comedy isn’t calming and obviously it’s not pleasant ……

    when you become the targeted , or the punchline , there’s that rumbling in my stomach and guess what ? I’m starving it’s lunchtime ….

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    this shit is beautiful right here . They should use this as the basis for a new class at Berkeley peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    this shit is beautiful right here . They should use this as the basis for a new class at Berkeley peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Hope this will settle the bullshit in this thread once & for all....

    CONTINUED...

    Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99.

    When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100.

    Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103.

    Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112.

    Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115.

    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

    @Midnight1

     peace_5 Thanks Midnight1.  Very well annotated  and a solid summary of the known facts from the testimony.   Destroys the rabid GOP shouting points in Congress and social media but of course doesn't stop the BS because most have adopted the "trump model" of simply denying the facts and continuing the torrent of smears.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Hope this will settle the bullshit in this thread once & for all....

    CONTINUED...

    Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99.

    When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100.

    Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103.

    Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112.

    Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115.

    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

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     peace_5 Thanks Midnight1.  Very well annotated  and a solid summary of the known facts from the testimony.   Destroys the rabid GOP shouting points in Congress and social media but of course doesn't stop the BS because most have adopted the "trump model" of simply denying the facts and continuing the torrent of smears.

     

     

     

     
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    Your negativity regarding the future of our society & ability to work together is misguided IMO. 

    I remember how the country came together after Kennedy was killed & after the OKC bombing & of course, after 9/11. Yes, these were all disasters but so is what was attempted on January 6th. Most in here will agree that the traitors on 1/6 should be held accountable & our justice system will do its best to make sure that happens. Will everyone agree on the results of the trials, no. But when does America agree 100% on anything? 

    Personally, I've supported every president until Trump came on the scene & I see myself doing the same non dependent of the party in the oval office. I want what is best for the country. There are some in here where seeing eye to eye will never happen. So I don't spend much time with them unless they say something ridiculously untrue. However, others have opened my eyes on different topics with their differing views/experiences/ideas. 

    Hope springs eternal for our grandchildren & future generations. We can't continue to fuck it up worse than we already have.

     

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    Your negativity regarding the future of our society & ability to work together is misguided IMO. 

    I remember how the country came together after Kennedy was killed & after the OKC bombing & of course, after 9/11. Yes, these were all disasters but so is what was attempted on January 6th. Most in here will agree that the traitors on 1/6 should be held accountable & our justice system will do its best to make sure that happens. Will everyone agree on the results of the trials, no. But when does America agree 100% on anything? 

    Personally, I've supported every president until Trump came on the scene & I see myself doing the same non dependent of the party in the oval office. I want what is best for the country. There are some in here where seeing eye to eye will never happen. So I don't spend much time with them unless they say something ridiculously untrue. However, others have opened my eyes on different topics with their differing views/experiences/ideas. 

    Hope springs eternal for our grandchildren & future generations. We can't continue to fuck it up worse than we already have.

     

     
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    I’m glad that I could help you to see things from a different perspective midnight peace_5

    personal growth brother then we pass it along to those we love .

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    personal growth brother then we pass it along to those we love .

     
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     Don't flatter yourself. Your opinion is of no value to me.

    Now get off my lawn.

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    You were nicer this time peace_5

    but I don’t need the credit so we can keep it hush if you want .

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    but I don’t need the credit so we can keep it hush if you want .

     
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    @spockgato  Don't flatter yourself. Your opinion is of no value to me. Now get off my lawn.

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    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

     

    THE END!

    Right now I have a life to live and work to do, but I'll come back with.......the rest of the story of this transcript. 

     

    And by the way, Archer NEVER SAID "SELLING THE ILLUSION OF ACCESS", your buddy Goldman said that. 

    Goldman; It's not about selling access to his father. It's about selling the illusion of access to his father. Is that fair?

    Archer; Is that fair? I mean, yeah, that is -- I think that's -- that's almost fair.

    Because there--there is--there are touch points and contact points that I can't deny that happened, but nothing of material was discussed.

     

    And there's a whole bunch more.

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    Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

     

    THE END!

    Right now I have a life to live and work to do, but I'll come back with.......the rest of the story of this transcript. 

     

    And by the way, Archer NEVER SAID "SELLING THE ILLUSION OF ACCESS", your buddy Goldman said that. 

    Goldman; It's not about selling access to his father. It's about selling the illusion of access to his father. Is that fair?

    Archer; Is that fair? I mean, yeah, that is -- I think that's -- that's almost fair.

    Because there--there is--there are touch points and contact points that I can't deny that happened, but nothing of material was discussed.

     

    And there's a whole bunch more.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    I love how you come on like this when the tables are turned. Never see this dialogue in republican bashing threads.

    Knife in the back? Would that be like "Trump zombies", morons, "fat pigs at the trough" or maybe closed minds of the worshiping high majority? 

    Here we have one transcript from a Hunter Biden coworker, often times not privy to calls to DC. He said some things that are damning and it's just one of a hundred damning pieces of evidence. Seems like some here think it's the whole case. Sorry, it's not. 

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    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    I love how you come on like this when the tables are turned. Never see this dialogue in republican bashing threads.

    Knife in the back? Would that be like "Trump zombies", morons, "fat pigs at the trough" or maybe closed minds of the worshiping high majority? 

    Here we have one transcript from a Hunter Biden coworker, often times not privy to calls to DC. He said some things that are damning and it's just one of a hundred damning pieces of evidence. Seems like some here think it's the whole case. Sorry, it's not. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     

    CONTINUED... Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99. When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100. Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103. Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112. Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115. Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

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    very well stated sir   peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

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    CONTINUED... Archer said Burisma executives were constantly pushing Hunter to use his connections in DC to help them out. Hunter told Archer that there really was nothing that he could do, but he wanted to bluff the Burisma executives into thinking he could help them. P. 98-99. When asked what they did to help Burisma in DC, Hunter said they hired a group of government affairs and lobbying experts in DC. P. 100. Archer testified that he had no basis to believe that Joe Biden ever altered any US foreign policy to benefit his son or his business partners, and as far as he knows no policy was ever actually changed to their benefit. P. 102-103. Archer testified that he was not aware of any money that was ever paid to Joe Biden. He said Burisma executives liked to brag and make wild claims that they had access when they didn't and it was just them bluffing to their associates. P. 111-112. Archer said that Hunter falsely created the impression to Burisma executives that he had influence over this father, which they both knew was a lie. He said that when Joe Biden would make policy statements about the need for Ukraine to achieve energy independence, Hunter would falsely claim credit for it to Burisma executives when in fact he had nothing to do with it. P. 114-115. Archer summarized this by saying that Hunter was "selling the illusion of access" when in fact he had none except for a father-son relationship. P. 116.

    THE END!

    @Midnight1 

    very well stated sir   peace_5

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Praising midnight for what he wrote but not complementing or mentioning what wallstreet so eloquently bequeathed to us is like walking into the Louvre and throwing paint all across the Mona Lisa while a random kindergartner’s doodle of a horse with no neck hangs on your refrigerator at home …..

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    Praising midnight for what he wrote but not complementing or mentioning what wallstreet so eloquently bequeathed to us is like walking into the Louvre and throwing paint all across the Mona Lisa while a random kindergartner’s doodle of a horse with no neck hangs on your refrigerator at home …..

     
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    No ! If Hunter and Joe Biden were really so corrupt, do you think that Trump would have needed to threaten to withhold $300,000,000 of US taxpayer money (military aid to prevent further Russian aggression – something that turned out to be pretty important, don’t you think?) if Ukraine wouldn’t fabricate incriminating evidence against the Bidens?

    And do you think that a good faith Trump would ask for ANY critical information from a country that HE (Trump) swore was corrupt 

    For one thing, Hunter making millions of dollars is not inherently corrupt. Is it because he’s the son of a top US politician? Probably. But that makes it no different than the business dealings of George W Bush in the 80s and 90s (hell, the entire Bush clan - including the officeholder - were involved in international business deals), or any number of activities by donald’s kids. It might be distasteful nepotism, but it’s not notable……Kushner 2 billion dollars ? This is notable! Where is the out rage?

     

    As far as Archer brought this guy in to testify, just so they could then turn around and flat-out lie about what he said. There was never any chance of this hearing producing any useful information for Republicans ….GOP has gone to hell!

     

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    No ! If Hunter and Joe Biden were really so corrupt, do you think that Trump would have needed to threaten to withhold $300,000,000 of US taxpayer money (military aid to prevent further Russian aggression – something that turned out to be pretty important, don’t you think?) if Ukraine wouldn’t fabricate incriminating evidence against the Bidens?

    And do you think that a good faith Trump would ask for ANY critical information from a country that HE (Trump) swore was corrupt 

    For one thing, Hunter making millions of dollars is not inherently corrupt. Is it because he’s the son of a top US politician? Probably. But that makes it no different than the business dealings of George W Bush in the 80s and 90s (hell, the entire Bush clan - including the officeholder - were involved in international business deals), or any number of activities by donald’s kids. It might be distasteful nepotism, but it’s not notable……Kushner 2 billion dollars ? This is notable! Where is the out rage?

     

    As far as Archer brought this guy in to testify, just so they could then turn around and flat-out lie about what he said. There was never any chance of this hearing producing any useful information for Republicans ….GOP has gone to hell!

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:

    @joe pockets No ! If Hunter and Joe Biden were really so corrupt, do you think that Trump would have needed to threaten to withhold $300,000,000 of US taxpayer money (military aid to prevent further Russian aggression – something that turned out to be pretty important, don’t you think?) if Ukraine wouldn’t fabricate incriminating evidence against the Bidens? And do you think that a good faith Trump would ask for ANY critical information from a country that HE (Trump) swore was corrupt  For one thing, Hunter making millions of dollars is not inherently corrupt. Is it because he’s the son of a top US politician? Probably. But that makes it no different than the business dealings of George W Bush in the 80s and 90s (hell, the entire Bush clan - including the officeholder - were involved in international business deals), or any number of activities by donald’s kids. It might be distasteful nepotism, but it’s not notable……Kushner 2 billion dollars ? This is notable! Where is the out rage?   As far as Archer brought this guy in to testify, just so they could then turn around and flat-out lie about what he said. There was never any chance of this hearing producing any useful information for Republicans ….GOP has gone to hell!
    @joe pockets

    I've been asking Trumper's about this for the last 4 years and none of them can provide an answer as to why this and Ivanka getting granted 40+ patents from China and making 100s of millions off of these patents with China for her companies while serving in the administration under her father is ok but Hunter Biden's dealings while he was never serving under any administration is worse confused Making billions from Saudis, making millions from China while serving under daddy as President perfectly fine , but Hunter making shady cash while not serving in office and while Biden was not President so horrible. confused

     

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    @joe pockets No ! If Hunter and Joe Biden were really so corrupt, do you think that Trump would have needed to threaten to withhold $300,000,000 of US taxpayer money (military aid to prevent further Russian aggression – something that turned out to be pretty important, don’t you think?) if Ukraine wouldn’t fabricate incriminating evidence against the Bidens? And do you think that a good faith Trump would ask for ANY critical information from a country that HE (Trump) swore was corrupt  For one thing, Hunter making millions of dollars is not inherently corrupt. Is it because he’s the son of a top US politician? Probably. But that makes it no different than the business dealings of George W Bush in the 80s and 90s (hell, the entire Bush clan - including the officeholder - were involved in international business deals), or any number of activities by donald’s kids. It might be distasteful nepotism, but it’s not notable……Kushner 2 billion dollars ? This is notable! Where is the out rage?   As far as Archer brought this guy in to testify, just so they could then turn around and flat-out lie about what he said. There was never any chance of this hearing producing any useful information for Republicans ….GOP has gone to hell!
    @joe pockets

    I've been asking Trumper's about this for the last 4 years and none of them can provide an answer as to why this and Ivanka getting granted 40+ patents from China and making 100s of millions off of these patents with China for her companies while serving in the administration under her father is ok but Hunter Biden's dealings while he was never serving under any administration is worse confused Making billions from Saudis, making millions from China while serving under daddy as President perfectly fine , but Hunter making shady cash while not serving in office and while Biden was not President so horrible. confused

     

     
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     SHOW US ALL WHERE TRUMP THREATENED TO WITHHOLD $300,000,000. THAT IS A LIE. PRINT HIS WORDS THAT HE SAID THAT.

    SHOW US.an_popcorn

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     SHOW US ALL WHERE TRUMP THREATENED TO WITHHOLD $300,000,000. THAT IS A LIE. PRINT HIS WORDS THAT HE SAID THAT.

    SHOW US.an_popcorn

     
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    And who made billions from Saudi's??

    There is a big difference between here take my money, invest it, I expected a return on my investment and here is a commission based on how good you do..........and............

    Here is $5,000,000, call it a zero interest loan but you never have to pay it back. an_light

    But you already know this. Just the best you got.

    And don't forget Trump's connection to North Koerea via his corps partnership with Daewoo who way back in the 90's was allowed to do some business with North Koerea. an_roll_laugh

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    And who made billions from Saudi's??

    There is a big difference between here take my money, invest it, I expected a return on my investment and here is a commission based on how good you do..........and............

    Here is $5,000,000, call it a zero interest loan but you never have to pay it back. an_light

    But you already know this. Just the best you got.

    And don't forget Trump's connection to North Koerea via his corps partnership with Daewoo who way back in the 90's was allowed to do some business with North Koerea. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @joe pockets    SHOW US ALL WHERE TRUMP THREATENED TO WITHHOLD $300,000,000. THAT IS A LIE. PRINT HIS WORDS THAT HE SAID THAT. SHOW US.

    Joe Pockets is right.  Actions speak louder than words.  Trump was impeached for withholding $391 million in military aid from Ukraine.  The hold for aid was lifted after House democrats launched an investigation.

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    @joe pockets    SHOW US ALL WHERE TRUMP THREATENED TO WITHHOLD $300,000,000. THAT IS A LIE. PRINT HIS WORDS THAT HE SAID THAT. SHOW US.

    Joe Pockets is right.  Actions speak louder than words.  Trump was impeached for withholding $391 million in military aid from Ukraine.  The hold for aid was lifted after House democrats launched an investigation.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    this stuff right here is better than Tupac peace_5

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    Nah the BS will continue because neither side is interested in anything more than protecting their biases and partisan political views, very little desire to make things better or care about much more than showing each other up. Our society cares more about bashing in the brains of the wrong side than being open to learning, experiencing, changing or helping. Politics is the crap on the shoe of society and most of the comments in most of the threads here show that in full view. Every once in a while we get some dialogue but rarely is it without the knife in the back or closed minded biases that the high majority live life worshiping.

    this stuff right here is better than Tupac peace_5

     
     
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     Thank you! They don’t remember Trump” Get rid of her ” being Marie Yovanovitch ?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437

    And I will point out again that Mike Pence, who apparently found a spine to wear on Wednesday, has refuted this in no uncertain terms, saying that Trump asked him to outright reject the votes so the election would go to Congress, not to “pause” the voting. it’s all coming out! By Republicans testifying…..You can’t make this s____ up! It’s simply crime that MAGA insane ideologue has done to so many honest elected conservatives ! Well the chickens will come home to cluck in the coming months and as the house of pick up sticks fall more step to the plate to save them selfs…..Trump will be asking for Obamas birth certificate on his way to his new digs without a butler or toilet bidet combo!

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     Thank you! They don’t remember Trump” Get rid of her ” being Marie Yovanovitch ?

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/recording-appears-capture-trump-private-dinner-ukraine-ambassador/story?id=68506437

    And I will point out again that Mike Pence, who apparently found a spine to wear on Wednesday, has refuted this in no uncertain terms, saying that Trump asked him to outright reject the votes so the election would go to Congress, not to “pause” the voting. it’s all coming out! By Republicans testifying…..You can’t make this s____ up! It’s simply crime that MAGA insane ideologue has done to so many honest elected conservatives ! Well the chickens will come home to cluck in the coming months and as the house of pick up sticks fall more step to the plate to save them selfs…..Trump will be asking for Obamas birth certificate on his way to his new digs without a butler or toilet bidet combo!

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