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    California becomes first state to offer health insurance to all undocumented immigrants

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    ABooksNightmare
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 3:42 PM ET #1

     https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-1st-state-offer-health-insurance-undocumented-immigrants/story?id=105986377

     

    Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...he has essentially put in place that undocumented immigrants shall receive free health care through California's medi-cal program which is the equivalent to the federal's medicare program...

    In an essence, grusome is giving people who are definitely here illegally in this country in California free healthcare at the tax payers expense...giving free healthcare to persons who are undocumented than to those who are legal citizens and cannot afford it...California is broke as all get up and is currently in debt with the Fed's at a 20 billion dollar plug due to the mismanagement of the funds borrowed during COVID and is unable to pay it back which has now become the burden of each business in the State to repay it. And we all saw how the State mismanaged those funds as it made world news.

    This guy just gives money away and if elected will do more of the same to all of you...This goes back to what many have been saying about the border situation, why are they coming...for various reasons, yes, but when you are giving away something free without repercussions then why not take the handout...this is what those illegals will be doing and at a hefty price for this far left State...so far left that apparently it left you out with any concerns you may have with this...if you have an illness and are an undocumented immigrant then California will have you and you will get free healthcare...C'mon ever'body, come getcha some...

    Just incredible...confused

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     https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-1st-state-offer-health-insurance-undocumented-immigrants/story?id=105986377

     

    Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...he has essentially put in place that undocumented immigrants shall receive free health care through California's medi-cal program which is the equivalent to the federal's medicare program...

    In an essence, grusome is giving people who are definitely here illegally in this country in California free healthcare at the tax payers expense...giving free healthcare to persons who are undocumented than to those who are legal citizens and cannot afford it...California is broke as all get up and is currently in debt with the Fed's at a 20 billion dollar plug due to the mismanagement of the funds borrowed during COVID and is unable to pay it back which has now become the burden of each business in the State to repay it. And we all saw how the State mismanaged those funds as it made world news.

    This guy just gives money away and if elected will do more of the same to all of you...This goes back to what many have been saying about the border situation, why are they coming...for various reasons, yes, but when you are giving away something free without repercussions then why not take the handout...this is what those illegals will be doing and at a hefty price for this far left State...so far left that apparently it left you out with any concerns you may have with this...if you have an illness and are an undocumented immigrant then California will have you and you will get free healthcare...C'mon ever'body, come getcha some...

    Just incredible...confused

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 4:20 PM ET #2

    I feel sick peace_5

    and I’m an immigrant peace_5

    but don’t worry I’m legal peace_5

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    I feel sick peace_5

    and I’m an immigrant peace_5

    but don’t worry I’m legal peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 6:07 PM ET #3

    Come to California and sit on Santa's lap which is open year roundpeace_5

     

    Be sure to put your hand out and no need to wipe it clean on your pant leg prior to accepting because the doctor will see you now for free while citizens of this State have to pay...peace_5

     

    Newsomenomics...coming to a theater near you very soonpeace_5

     

    Open up and say Ahhhhh!!!!reallyhappy

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    Come to California and sit on Santa's lap which is open year roundpeace_5

     

    Be sure to put your hand out and no need to wipe it clean on your pant leg prior to accepting because the doctor will see you now for free while citizens of this State have to pay...peace_5

     

    Newsomenomics...coming to a theater near you very soonpeace_5

     

    Open up and say Ahhhhh!!!!reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 8:51 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-1st-state-offer-health-insurance-undocumented-immigrants/story?id=105986377   Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...he has essentially put in place that undocumented immigrants shall receive free health care through California's medi-cal program which is the equivalent to the federal's medicare program... In an essence, grusome is giving people who are definitely here illegally in this country in California free healthcare at the tax payers expense...giving free healthcare to persons who are undocumented than to those who are legal citizens and cannot afford it...California is broke as all get up and is currently in debt with the Fed's at a 20 billion dollar plug due to the mismanagement of the funds borrowed during COVID and is unable to pay it back which has now become the burden of each business in the State to repay it. And we all saw how the State mismanaged those funds as it made world news. This guy just gives money away and if elected will do more of the same to all of you...This goes back to what many have been saying about the border situation, why are they coming...for various reasons, yes, but when you are giving away something free without repercussions then why not take the handout...this is what those illegals will be doing and at a hefty price for this far left State...so far left that apparently it left you out with any concerns you may have with this...if you have an illness and are an undocumented immigrant then California will have you and you will get free healthcare...C'mon ever'body, come getcha some... Just incredible...

    What evidence do you have that Newsom is Biden’s running mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/california-1st-state-offer-health-insurance-undocumented-immigrants/story?id=105986377   Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...he has essentially put in place that undocumented immigrants shall receive free health care through California's medi-cal program which is the equivalent to the federal's medicare program... In an essence, grusome is giving people who are definitely here illegally in this country in California free healthcare at the tax payers expense...giving free healthcare to persons who are undocumented than to those who are legal citizens and cannot afford it...California is broke as all get up and is currently in debt with the Fed's at a 20 billion dollar plug due to the mismanagement of the funds borrowed during COVID and is unable to pay it back which has now become the burden of each business in the State to repay it. And we all saw how the State mismanaged those funds as it made world news. This guy just gives money away and if elected will do more of the same to all of you...This goes back to what many have been saying about the border situation, why are they coming...for various reasons, yes, but when you are giving away something free without repercussions then why not take the handout...this is what those illegals will be doing and at a hefty price for this far left State...so far left that apparently it left you out with any concerns you may have with this...if you have an illness and are an undocumented immigrant then California will have you and you will get free healthcare...C'mon ever'body, come getcha some... Just incredible...

    What evidence do you have that Newsom is Biden’s running mate?

     
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    I don’t have any evidence . But it just seems right . It would be perfect . Joe Biden would be the Irv Gotti in the equation and Newsom would be the Ja Rule peace_5

    except they would call it Boring Inc .

    once he clarifies himself I would love for you to put in your 50 cents and give your opinion about the core of what he wrote though sidehatch peace_5

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    I don’t have any evidence . But it just seems right . It would be perfect . Joe Biden would be the Irv Gotti in the equation and Newsom would be the Ja Rule peace_5

    except they would call it Boring Inc .

    once he clarifies himself I would love for you to put in your 50 cents and give your opinion about the core of what he wrote though sidehatch peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 10:10 PM ET #6

    Running mate an_roll_laugh

     

    He's coming after Joe...Joe...when the old man can't pass his physical there comes your boy...win

     

    He's everyone's favorite hand puppet and he's coming to you....get ready to pay though as his hairstyle ain't free...SomePelosi or PelosiSome or maybe even NewSi...

    The 20 million dollar boy will be riding in on his electric vespa to give his green speeches... an_wink

     

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    Running mate an_roll_laugh

     

    He's coming after Joe...Joe...when the old man can't pass his physical there comes your boy...win

     

    He's everyone's favorite hand puppet and he's coming to you....get ready to pay though as his hairstyle ain't free...SomePelosi or PelosiSome or maybe even NewSi...

    The 20 million dollar boy will be riding in on his electric vespa to give his green speeches... an_wink

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2024 - 10:16 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Running mate   He's coming after Joe...Joe...when the old man can't pass his physical there comes your boy...   He's everyone's favorite hand puppet and he's coming to you....get ready to pay though as his hairstyle ain't free...SomePelosi or PelosiSome or maybe even NewSi... The 20 million dollar boy will be riding in on his electric vespa to give his green speeches...

    You used the words running mate, that’s why I asked. Here, I’ll quote you:

    ”Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...”

    White House to date is saying that Harris is the running mate. You are disagreeing with that. That’s fine, I’m just asking why do you think that? Where is your evidence?

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Running mate   He's coming after Joe...Joe...when the old man can't pass his physical there comes your boy...   He's everyone's favorite hand puppet and he's coming to you....get ready to pay though as his hairstyle ain't free...SomePelosi or PelosiSome or maybe even NewSi... The 20 million dollar boy will be riding in on his electric vespa to give his green speeches...

    You used the words running mate, that’s why I asked. Here, I’ll quote you:

    ”Just so everyone knows what your future presidential running mate is doing...”

    White House to date is saying that Harris is the running mate. You are disagreeing with that. That’s fine, I’m just asking why do you think that? Where is your evidence?

     

     
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    Oh I get it and you assumed that I meant he would be Biden's running mate...peace_5

     

    I clarified that by indicating in my next post that Joe would not pass his physical to even be in the running...an_horse

     

    We'll get there...It's coming...peace_5

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    Oh I get it and you assumed that I meant he would be Biden's running mate...peace_5

     

    I clarified that by indicating in my next post that Joe would not pass his physical to even be in the running...an_horse

     

    We'll get there...It's coming...peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2024 - 12:28 PM ET #9

    Expanded coverage should save California money in the long run.  Illegal migrants often delay or avoid healthcare because they aren't eligible for coverage, making it more expensive to cure them when they end up in hospitals.  In countries with universal healthcare, total spending is less as percentage of GDP.

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    Expanded coverage should save California money in the long run.  Illegal migrants often delay or avoid healthcare because they aren't eligible for coverage, making it more expensive to cure them when they end up in hospitals.  In countries with universal healthcare, total spending is less as percentage of GDP.

     
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    That's a facade....it's not a matter of spending money to save money. The point is, you should not be offering free anything to undocumented individuals. This entices them to come here to our country and receive free healthcare. Not, because you are already here or got here so let's give you free stuff. That's not right. And if you say otherwise, talk to those who are here documented and cannot receive the same liberties or benefits. You will see outrage.

    Wouldn't or couldn't that money be spent on better resources? I think so, California, like most of the US, is struggling with many issues and giving free healthcare to non US citizens just sends the wrong message. It is already perceived out here in California, and has for decades, that you get more from being illegal in this State than you do being legal. This is just another clip that shoves it right in your face. If you aren't helping your own people (citizens), how can you or why would you want to help those who you are not responsible for (non-citizens)? Since when do non-citizens get anything from other countries other than some type of foreign aid. I would not expect any handout from any other country if I were to stockpile into their country. However, if other countries started offering these types of benefits to non-citizens then why purchase healthcare at all. Wouldn't it be cheaper to forego getting your own healthcare for you and your family when I could go to Brazil on vacation and get that needed surgery on Brazil's taxpayers dime.

    This makes no sense at all. Stop giving the handouts and let's see how many of them stay or keep wanting to come here. Other than the illegal activity that some pursue or are forced into, I don't see that being a long term solution once you fix the handouts/welfare situation, as well the employment opportunities that has to be addressed. 

    Completely ridiculous to offer this when California cannot even take care of its own. This State is broke so what's the catch here...an_light 

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    That's a facade....it's not a matter of spending money to save money. The point is, you should not be offering free anything to undocumented individuals. This entices them to come here to our country and receive free healthcare. Not, because you are already here or got here so let's give you free stuff. That's not right. And if you say otherwise, talk to those who are here documented and cannot receive the same liberties or benefits. You will see outrage.

    Wouldn't or couldn't that money be spent on better resources? I think so, California, like most of the US, is struggling with many issues and giving free healthcare to non US citizens just sends the wrong message. It is already perceived out here in California, and has for decades, that you get more from being illegal in this State than you do being legal. This is just another clip that shoves it right in your face. If you aren't helping your own people (citizens), how can you or why would you want to help those who you are not responsible for (non-citizens)? Since when do non-citizens get anything from other countries other than some type of foreign aid. I would not expect any handout from any other country if I were to stockpile into their country. However, if other countries started offering these types of benefits to non-citizens then why purchase healthcare at all. Wouldn't it be cheaper to forego getting your own healthcare for you and your family when I could go to Brazil on vacation and get that needed surgery on Brazil's taxpayers dime.

    This makes no sense at all. Stop giving the handouts and let's see how many of them stay or keep wanting to come here. Other than the illegal activity that some pursue or are forced into, I don't see that being a long term solution once you fix the handouts/welfare situation, as well the employment opportunities that has to be addressed. 

    Completely ridiculous to offer this when California cannot even take care of its own. This State is broke so what's the catch here...an_light 

     
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    Save money in the long run...new_laugh_sweat

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    Save money in the long run...new_laugh_sweat

     
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    Undocumented immigrants who get paid above the table do pay taxes under their SSNs though. So if they’re taxpayers, then why shouldn’t they get services in exchange for their dime?

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    Undocumented immigrants who get paid above the table do pay taxes under their SSNs though. So if they’re taxpayers, then why shouldn’t they get services in exchange for their dime?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Oh I get it and you assumed that I meant he would be Biden's running mate...   I clarified that by indicating in my next post that Joe would not pass his physical to even be in the running...   We'll get there...It's coming...

    Great, what’s you’re evidence for that? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Oh I get it and you assumed that I meant he would be Biden's running mate...   I clarified that by indicating in my next post that Joe would not pass his physical to even be in the running...   We'll get there...It's coming...

    Great, what’s you’re evidence for that? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    .it's not a matter of spending money to save money. The point is, you should not be offering free anything to undocumented individuals. This entices them to come here to our country and receive free healthcare. ..

    For decades under US law, illegal migrants qualify for emergency medicaid even without California expanded coverage.  But anyone must be very ill to qualify for limited healthcare.  So universal coverage could save money when sick migrants are treated early before their illness become expensive to cure.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.  Contrary to common belief, migrants don't qualify for most social programs and lilkely travel to US for other reasons.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    .it's not a matter of spending money to save money. The point is, you should not be offering free anything to undocumented individuals. This entices them to come here to our country and receive free healthcare. ..

    For decades under US law, illegal migrants qualify for emergency medicaid even without California expanded coverage.  But anyone must be very ill to qualify for limited healthcare.  So universal coverage could save money when sick migrants are treated early before their illness become expensive to cure.  A ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.  Contrary to common belief, migrants don't qualify for most social programs and lilkely travel to US for other reasons.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2024 - 5:58 PM ET #15

    Emergencies and pregnancies is already covered.....

     

    And the additional healthcare is not being limited to only those that have registered with the IRS and have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number where they may be paying in some form of taxes...this is opening up to anyone who qualifies with their income...which of course can be fabricated without being able to authenticate through Social Security, State or IRS...

    It's just free if you make less than $17,609 for single people, $23,792 for couples and $36,156 for a family of four annually...

    So how do you verify income for individuals that do not pay into State or Federal....an_popcorn

    This is going to cost California taxpayers 2.6 billion every year....

    For a State that is broke and is hemorrhaging money for what Newsome calls getting "universal access to healthcare coverage"...sounds like a step towards universal healthcare....an_light

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    Emergencies and pregnancies is already covered.....

     

    And the additional healthcare is not being limited to only those that have registered with the IRS and have an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number where they may be paying in some form of taxes...this is opening up to anyone who qualifies with their income...which of course can be fabricated without being able to authenticate through Social Security, State or IRS...

    It's just free if you make less than $17,609 for single people, $23,792 for couples and $36,156 for a family of four annually...

    So how do you verify income for individuals that do not pay into State or Federal....an_popcorn

    This is going to cost California taxpayers 2.6 billion every year....

    For a State that is broke and is hemorrhaging money for what Newsome calls getting "universal access to healthcare coverage"...sounds like a step towards universal healthcare....an_light

     
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    [Quote: What evidence do you have that Newsom is Biden’s running mate?[/Quote]

    Why would a Governor from any state be traveling to China for a visit...yea yea yea, climate change...I'm sure that's the reason, right...he's the first American Governor to visit China in over 4 years and yes, California has a history of its Governors visiting China, but this is no layaway visit...Newsome has already set in motion his green initiative here in California with an extremely dubious plan that has way more questions than answers, but this is enough to get him going...now he has initiated the largest medical healthcare plan to undocumented workers in his State...another very formidable feat to add to his resume which atones to the masses or demographic that many politici are trying to attract....China at the forefront again....Also, if you are in with the lobbyist in California then you are in the know...here is just one article of many... 

     https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/12/gavin-newsom-winning-presidential-campaign/ 

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    [Quote: What evidence do you have that Newsom is Biden’s running mate?[/Quote]

    Why would a Governor from any state be traveling to China for a visit...yea yea yea, climate change...I'm sure that's the reason, right...he's the first American Governor to visit China in over 4 years and yes, California has a history of its Governors visiting China, but this is no layaway visit...Newsome has already set in motion his green initiative here in California with an extremely dubious plan that has way more questions than answers, but this is enough to get him going...now he has initiated the largest medical healthcare plan to undocumented workers in his State...another very formidable feat to add to his resume which atones to the masses or demographic that many politici are trying to attract....China at the forefront again....Also, if you are in with the lobbyist in California then you are in the know...here is just one article of many... 

     https://calmatters.org/commentary/2023/12/gavin-newsom-winning-presidential-campaign/ 

     
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    So now they say the USA is having more monthly illegals come into their country than babies being born.  They say all 3 of the highest monthly totals of illegals entering have occurred under Biden.

    peace_5

     

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    So now they say the USA is having more monthly illegals come into their country than babies being born.  They say all 3 of the highest monthly totals of illegals entering have occurred under Biden.

    peace_5

     

     
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     MEXIFORNIA, TEXICO and States in between along with the whole LEFT COAST Dissaprove of this message jumpy

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     MEXIFORNIA, TEXICO and States in between along with the whole LEFT COAST Dissaprove of this message jumpy

     
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    Right, here is a chilling article about the border situation....It's a CBS article from a couple of weeks ago...

     https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-number-migrant-border-crossings-december-2023/

    Undeterred by the razor wire assembled by Texas state officials, stretches of federal border wall and Biden administration policies designed to reduce illegal entries, migrants have been crossing the U.S.-Mexico border in unprecedented numbers in recent days.

    In just five days last week, Border Patrol processed nearly 50,000 migrants who entered the U.S. illegally, with daily apprehensions surpassing 10,000 thrice, up from the 6,400 average last month, according to federal data obtained by CBS News. Roughly 1,500 additional migrants are being processed each day at official border crossings under a Biden program powered by a phone app.

    The record level of unauthorized crossings has strained federal and local resources in communities across the U.S. — from small towns like Eagle Pass, Jacumba Hot Springs, California, and Lukeville, Arizona — to large cities, such as Denver, Chicago and New York. It has also upended the politics of immigration, putting Democrats on the defensive ahead of the 2024 election.

    To convince Republicans to back more aid to Ukraine, the White House and Senate Democrats are currently entertaining drastic limits on asylum and an expansion of detention beds and deportations. While the negotiations in Congress are ongoing, lawmakers have signaled they want to reach a deal in the next few weeks.

    In Border Patrol's Del Rio sector, which includes Eagle Pass, the agency has processed as many as 4,000 migrants in 24 hours in recent days, a record high for the area, internal data show.

    "Illegal border crossings have always happened," said Eagle Pass fire chief Manuel Mello, who started as a local firefighter in the 1990s. "Groups of 10, 12 — that was a large group. But now you see 3,000 and 4,000 in one day. I never thought something like this could happen."

    Diaz said her family left their hometown of Usme, near Colombia's capital of Bogota, because her teenage son was threatened by guerilla fighters. The family said they had relatives in Chicago willing to help them settle there. 

    Asked if traveling to the U.S. was going to be worth it, given the experiences her family had endured so far, Diaz said, "God willing, given all this effort. 

    "We sold almost everything we had in Colombia to make this journey," Diaz said.

     

     

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    Right, here is a chilling article about the border situation....It's a CBS article from a couple of weeks ago...

     https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-number-migrant-border-crossings-december-2023/

    Undeterred by the razor wire assembled by Texas state officials, stretches of federal border wall and Biden administration policies designed to reduce illegal entries, migrants have been crossing the U.S.-Mexico border in unprecedented numbers in recent days.

    In just five days last week, Border Patrol processed nearly 50,000 migrants who entered the U.S. illegally, with daily apprehensions surpassing 10,000 thrice, up from the 6,400 average last month, according to federal data obtained by CBS News. Roughly 1,500 additional migrants are being processed each day at official border crossings under a Biden program powered by a phone app.

    The record level of unauthorized crossings has strained federal and local resources in communities across the U.S. — from small towns like Eagle Pass, Jacumba Hot Springs, California, and Lukeville, Arizona — to large cities, such as Denver, Chicago and New York. It has also upended the politics of immigration, putting Democrats on the defensive ahead of the 2024 election.

    To convince Republicans to back more aid to Ukraine, the White House and Senate Democrats are currently entertaining drastic limits on asylum and an expansion of detention beds and deportations. While the negotiations in Congress are ongoing, lawmakers have signaled they want to reach a deal in the next few weeks.

    In Border Patrol's Del Rio sector, which includes Eagle Pass, the agency has processed as many as 4,000 migrants in 24 hours in recent days, a record high for the area, internal data show.

    "Illegal border crossings have always happened," said Eagle Pass fire chief Manuel Mello, who started as a local firefighter in the 1990s. "Groups of 10, 12 — that was a large group. But now you see 3,000 and 4,000 in one day. I never thought something like this could happen."

    Diaz said her family left their hometown of Usme, near Colombia's capital of Bogota, because her teenage son was threatened by guerilla fighters. The family said they had relatives in Chicago willing to help them settle there. 

    Asked if traveling to the U.S. was going to be worth it, given the experiences her family had endured so far, Diaz said, "God willing, given all this effort. 

    "We sold almost everything we had in Colombia to make this journey," Diaz said.

     

     

     
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    These people leave everything they own in their own country to come to this country in hopes of getting in...it's sad, but a problem that should not be shouldered by another country...coming here should not be a solution to another countries humanitarian problem...and we should not be accepting of all individuals just because they are in an unfortunate predicament elsewhere in the world...to that token, you would be helping and accepting of every individual with a sad and unfortunate foreign situation when there are just as many sad and unfortunate domestic situations that are being ignored with our own people...coming to the US should not be a solution...we've set a very bad precedent...

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    These people leave everything they own in their own country to come to this country in hopes of getting in...it's sad, but a problem that should not be shouldered by another country...coming here should not be a solution to another countries humanitarian problem...and we should not be accepting of all individuals just because they are in an unfortunate predicament elsewhere in the world...to that token, you would be helping and accepting of every individual with a sad and unfortunate foreign situation when there are just as many sad and unfortunate domestic situations that are being ignored with our own people...coming to the US should not be a solution...we've set a very bad precedent...

     
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     The Great Replacement is an anti-semetic canard and conspiracy theory that has been floating around the internet for some time now. In fact It was debunked by multiple an_laugh fact-checker sources lie

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     The Great Replacement is an anti-semetic canard and conspiracy theory that has been floating around the internet for some time now. In fact It was debunked by multiple an_laugh fact-checker sources lie

     
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     Not just there.  You see where the mayor of NYC is suggesting to take some folks in their houses.  He says he will find a way around the 30-day rule that AirBNB has.  Then they will pay the folks to house them.

    They closed a school up there because of the weather in order to house the illegals.  So, now it has become a burden on even the so-called 'sanctuary' cities, they now have to do something with their own kids instead of going to their school.  

    They were being nice and sympathetic and saying to come there if no one else wanted them.  Now look at the mess they have.

    They have not been slowly prepared for it over a generation or two, like the border states.  Now all of a sudden they are confused.

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     Not just there.  You see where the mayor of NYC is suggesting to take some folks in their houses.  He says he will find a way around the 30-day rule that AirBNB has.  Then they will pay the folks to house them.

    They closed a school up there because of the weather in order to house the illegals.  So, now it has become a burden on even the so-called 'sanctuary' cities, they now have to do something with their own kids instead of going to their school.  

    They were being nice and sympathetic and saying to come there if no one else wanted them.  Now look at the mess they have.

    They have not been slowly prepared for it over a generation or two, like the border states.  Now all of a sudden they are confused.

     
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    Here's another article about how smuggling operations remove part of the wall that was built....a reason why the wall is breached is because they don't have enough agents to be in certain areas because they are attending to other illegal crossers...so a diversion is created in one area that has to be tended to while another group does construction work on a portion of the wall to obtain a hole....so , we either hire more agents or somehow deter the masses from coming here in droves so that the agents that are patrolling the wall can actually patrol instead of tend to groups of illegal crossers...a lot argue that the wall wouldn't work or isn't a solution or it didn't work, but this gives you a little insight as to why that is..."smuggling operations"...and what do those smuggling operations consist of???? Are they good or bad????

     https://apnews.com/article/arizona-border-wall-breaches-asylum-immigration-beddd2ca0ffd02884ce0d0ad1785f538

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    Here's another article about how smuggling operations remove part of the wall that was built....a reason why the wall is breached is because they don't have enough agents to be in certain areas because they are attending to other illegal crossers...so a diversion is created in one area that has to be tended to while another group does construction work on a portion of the wall to obtain a hole....so , we either hire more agents or somehow deter the masses from coming here in droves so that the agents that are patrolling the wall can actually patrol instead of tend to groups of illegal crossers...a lot argue that the wall wouldn't work or isn't a solution or it didn't work, but this gives you a little insight as to why that is..."smuggling operations"...and what do those smuggling operations consist of???? Are they good or bad????

     https://apnews.com/article/arizona-border-wall-breaches-asylum-immigration-beddd2ca0ffd02884ce0d0ad1785f538

     
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     There does not need to be any deals or reforms made.  Just enforce the current laws.  This is not asylum.  This is simply illegals entering because they know they can.

    There does not need to be more funding.  Tell them they are not welcome there and to return home and apply the correct way.

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     There does not need to be any deals or reforms made.  Just enforce the current laws.  This is not asylum.  This is simply illegals entering because they know they can.

    There does not need to be more funding.  Tell them they are not welcome there and to return home and apply the correct way.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    These people leave everything they own in their own country to come to this country in hopes of getting in...it's sad, but a problem that should not be shouldered by another country...coming here should not be a solution to another countries humanitarian problem...and we should not be accepting of all individuals just because they are in an unfortunate predicament elsewhere in the world...to that token, you would be helping and accepting of every individual with a sad and unfortunate foreign situation when there are just as many sad and unfortunate domestic situations that are being ignored with our own people...coming to the US should not be a solution...we've set a very bad precedent...

    I know how it is and it is hard not to feel sympathetic towards them.  But you cannot take in all of the people in the world that want to come there.

    These folks would do better where they are by trying to fix their country and applying the correct way. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    These people leave everything they own in their own country to come to this country in hopes of getting in...it's sad, but a problem that should not be shouldered by another country...coming here should not be a solution to another countries humanitarian problem...and we should not be accepting of all individuals just because they are in an unfortunate predicament elsewhere in the world...to that token, you would be helping and accepting of every individual with a sad and unfortunate foreign situation when there are just as many sad and unfortunate domestic situations that are being ignored with our own people...coming to the US should not be a solution...we've set a very bad precedent...

    I know how it is and it is hard not to feel sympathetic towards them.  But you cannot take in all of the people in the world that want to come there.

    These folks would do better where they are by trying to fix their country and applying the correct way. 

     

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