California becomes first state to offer health insurance to all undocumented immigrants

@Rush51

 @ABooksNightmare

   WA Gov. Inslee thinks Newsom is a hero. Seems like everything that happens in CA eventually happens up here. 

@THEMUGG

 That's funny because San Francisco is the trend setter for the nation on quite a few things they roll out for employees...they pride themselves on this and it doesn't make any sense....they have a shithole of a city now but yet the implement one of teh highest minimum wages in the country....In fact, how upside down is California, we have nearly 40 city/counties that have a higher local minimum wage than the States minimum wage...It's like everyone is trying to one up another, but the top 5 highest minimum wages in the country are in Washington who has 3 and in California who has 2....

Newsom spends money frivolously on a number of different area as if he is improving the State but he gets the money from businesses yet a town like San Francisco has become needle park...these clowns think that they are helping their citizens by increasing and increasing minimum wage to prove some point I suppose but don't realize that other costs are relative....they just want to be one of the highest in the nation that gives and gives to its citizens but the truth is it causes the State to be upside down...they mismanage money and get it from the employer which has driven out more business than it retains....complete joke over here and the people keep voting the same way year after year....I don't get it....we do have kick ass welfare programs though so I suppose if you keep handing it out you will keep getting the votes....it's the only thing I can think of because it is way too expensive to live out here and as I have stated in another thread elsewhere, Newsom is coming for the presidency....nobody should kid yourself on this and he will bring these shady policies with him because he is prepping himself now to become the leader of the free world...he's coming and the rest of America will see what he does first hand....it's not good...

Liberalism is a mental disorder.   

@scooby-doos

 It is a disorder, and it is interesting to note that there are plenty of examples of people coming from the 'dark side to the Republican Party (including past presidents Reagan & Trump), but there aren't too many instances of people going from the Republican Party to the Democrats. 

That should tell you Democrats something.   

Chambers Ask High Court: Help Homeless Crisis Fight

The California Chamber of Commerce has joined the U.S., Arizona and Montana chambers, and Oregon Business and Industry in asking the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals decision that will otherwise prevent local leaders from addressing the needs of the unhoused and hurt businesses and their communities.

“Many of the collateral impacts of the homelessness crisis fall on local businesses,” the chambers point out in their friend-of-the-court brief filed this week. The case is City of Grants Pass, Oregon v. Gloria Johnson, et al.

Governor Gavin Newsom also filed a brief asking the U.S. Supreme Court to hear the case.

In 2019, the Ninth Circuit held that enforcing criminal restrictions on public camping violates the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the Eighth Amendment unless the target of enforcement has access to adequate temporary shelter. That ruling in Martin v. City of Boise resulted in cities throughout the Ninth Circuit finding themselves handcuffed when attempting to ameliorate the homelessness crisis.

Despite business owners’ efforts to improve the lives and well-being of their unhoused neighbors, businesses throughout the circuit bear the brunt of local governments’ inability to respond to the public health issues and criminal activity associated with burgeoning homeless encampments.

Employers have difficulty attracting and retaining employees, who have health and safety concerns about working near homeless encampments. Customers forgo patronizing businesses in such areas and business owners in once-vibrant commercial districts have faced the difficult choice of operating in dangerous conditions or shutting down.

In 2023, the Ninth Circuit extended its previous ruling to prevent enforcement of even generally applicable camping ordinances in the case of Johnson v. City of Grants Pass.

Impact on Business

The chambers’ brief points out that:

• California accounts for 28% of unhoused individuals in the United States and 49% of all unsheltered people in the country.

• Homeless encampments deter customers from patronizing and employees from working at businesses.

• Violence, theft, drug use and other crimes associated with encampments adversely affect businesses.

• Homeless encampments cause public health hazards that make it difficult for businesses to thrive.

The chambers argue that local governments need “leeway to apply sensible policies” to address the homelessness crisis and its collateral effects.

“The high rate of unsheltered homelessness in the Ninth Circuit, and local leaders’ inability to apply sensible policies to address the crisis, has created a perfect storm for the business community,” the brief states.

Citing numerous news reports of the work local businesses are doing to help their communities and the difficulties those businesses face, the brief comments: “The cumulative effect of violent crime, theft, and drug use connected to homeless encampments is devastating to businesses, especially to small businesses still recovering from the effects of the shutdowns during the pandemic.”

The numerous amicus briefs filed in support of the U.S. Supreme Court review of the case provide further evidence of the effects of the homelessness crisis on businesses throughout the Ninth Circuit, the chambers’ brief states.

As shown by those briefs, businesses, large and small, are doing their part to support their homeless neighbors and stand ready to partner with local leaders to assist with solutions that provide relief to both the homeless and the business community.

“But businesses cannot solve the problem alone,” the chambers’ brief comments. “State and local governments, must be empowered to tackle the homelessness crisis through sensible policies that protect the economic vibrancy of their communities.”

The U.S. high court’s intervention is needed “to prevent further damage to businesses and the economic vitality of communities throughout the Ninth Circuit,” the brief declares.

California accounts for 28% of unhoused individuals in the United States and 49% of all unsheltered people in the country.

I knew we had a lot, but I did not know this

The encampments around where I am are plentiful and they keep kicking them out and they set up somewhere else until they eventually go back to the same spots....it's a cycle that's for sure....

Keep this in mind when Newsom runs for President...California borrowed 20 billion from the Feds to handle UI claims during the pandemic...it then mismanaged the funds and gave out millions of dollars to unqualified and sometimes ineligible or non-living individuals....The State, of course, cannot pay it back so it defaults to the businesses to pay it back...look at what this article from the Chamber of Commerce is stating...

Historic UI Fund Debt

The California UI Fund is in historic debt—approximately $20 billion—due to the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent statewide shutdown. As a result, California employers already are paying increased UI taxes pursuant to federal law and are likely to face ongoing tax increases until approximately 2032.

In addition to adding to employers’ tax burdens, SB 1116 will also add to the state’s General Fund obligation regarding the UI Fund.

For example, in 2023–2024, the interest payment is expected to cost the state approximately $300 million—and similar payments will continue until the UI Fund returns to solvency. In the proposed 2024–2025 budget, it is estimated to rise to $331 million.

SB 1116 risks compounding UI’s insolvency, which will weigh heavily on the State, California’s employers, and California’s unemployed.

So this is paid back by increasing employers FUTA tax at an additional rate of 0.3% each year it is not paid back....currently, employers are paying 0.9% additionally because the State is in year 3 of the deficit...if this goes to year 2032, as the article from the Chamber of Commerce indicates, the rate would be an additional tax to businesses 3.3% in year 2032..

This is insane that because the State mismanaged claims that employers are flipping the bill...

Careful you may get banned as they are supposed to referred to as "newcomers" and not illegals.

Please Nov. 5th get here fast. The current horror show may be too much even for Donald J. Trump to fix.

From Cal Chamber

Cal Chamber Lead Coalition Opposing State Run Health Care System

A large and diverse coalition of 150 California business representatives have joined a CalChamber-led coalition in strong opposition to AB 2200 (Kalra; D-San Jose), a job killer bill that would create an expensive government bureaucracy to finance a state-run health care system.

The bill is scheduled to be heard in the Assembly Health Committee as a Special Order on Tuesday, April 23.

AB 2200 forces all Californians into a new untested state government health plan, with no ability to opt out while eliminating Medicare for California seniors and increasing taxes at least $250 billion a year on workers, income, jobs, goods and services.

Astronomical Costs Imposed on Taxpayers

The Healthy California for All Commission recently estimated that total health care costs annually exceed $500 billion in California. This amounts to one-seventh of the gross state product and would more than double the state’s budget.

In a letter sent to legislators this week, the CalChamber explained that AB 2200 is woefully incomplete as it does not include any funding mechanism to account for the costs needed to implement a state-run health care system (CalCare). Considering that the state’s General Fund cannot come anywhere close to covering CalCare’s cost, even in surplus years, taxpaying Californians would be required to make up the shortfall, especially during California’s current deficit.

Prior single-payer fiscal analyses estimated that the system would cost more than $400 billion annually. In 2008, the Legislative Analyst’s Office (LAO) analyzed the cost of a single-payer system in California and concluded that more than $210 billion would be needed in the first year to sustain such a system and would increase up to $250 billion in subsequent years.

Even with a 12% payroll tax paid both by employers and employees under that measure, the report predicted a net shortfall of $42 billion in its first full year of implementation and even higher thereafter. Just to cover the shortfall, a 16% tax on employers and employees was estimated by the LAO, resulting in a multibillion-dollar-tax increase on Californians.

The kinds of tax increases needed to finance AB 2200 have a detrimental impact on California businesses and certainly discourage companies from growing or relocating here, the CalChamber warned in its letter.

Impacts on Physicians

AB 2200 would create a governing board that would set reimbursement rates for providers. If physicians took issue with those government-imposed rates, or if CalCare paid providers below the market average in other states, doctors may be left with little choice but to practice elsewhere.

Canada’s health care system includes government-set payment rates and Canadian physicians earn less than their American counterparts. However, CalCare is not a nationalized plan; it’s local. Thus, California physicians could choose to practice in another state with traditional payment models if they found the choice to be beneficial, the CalChamber pointed out.

Additionally, the CalCare model would have a negative impact on the physician-patient experience. Government health care is typically operated like an HMO (health maintenance organization). Patients must see their assigned primary care physician so they can delegate care, place referrals, or order testing and procedures.

Californians are covered by a variety of health plans, Medicare, or Medi-Cal and the market helps ease this provider-access issue.

However, CalCare would contribute to increased demand for a limited supply of physicians and facilities. Britain’s National Health Service is a government-run health system and the country experiences overcrowded hospitals, long waiting lists for procedures and quality of care issues. A single-payer system would undoubtedly experience the same bureaucratic outcome under AB 2200, the CalChamber said.

State Run Health Care Rejected Before

California voters have twice rejected a government-run health care system at the ballot box — in 1994 and 2004. Additionally, CalChamber polling found that voters overwhelmingly preferred to keep their current health insurance over switching to a single-payer approach.

Voters strongly support subsidies for people who cannot afford their own health care and for those who have pre-existing health conditions, but were not ready to embrace government-run health care.

This is what our broke ass state is doing....how logical is it to move forward on this....in a state that already owes the Feds 20 billion in a mismanaged loan for unemployment during the pandemic, now this bozo Newsom, who is soon to be running for President, wants to put this plan in motion....bankrupt the state, make taxpayers pay for heath care that is not affordable and is run by the government that knows nothing about health care....oh yea, that makes sense....

It's a friggin clown show out here....what makes anyone think that California government can run a state health care plan when they couldn't manage over 20 billion in funds loaned by the Feds during the pandemic that the employer is now having to pay back...seriously...

Newsom, your next up and coming President....he is destroying our State and next he's coming for you at the level...don't say you haven't been warned when his number is called to run for the highest job in the land...good luck to all of us because this greaser is just savvy enough to con his way to winning....god help us all...

@ABooksNightmare

 Those " Biden illegal newcomers" are putting a massive strain on municipalities across the US.  Schools, hospitals, police forces and budgets are so stretch thin. Many will not be able to function much longer. Another thing you can thank Joe Biden for and it will not get better. He will be long gone and I think this and all the wars started will be his legacy and what harm he did to the Nation.

Biden will be long gone and the crime rates will spiral out of control. They will try and blame Trump for thins in the future but we all know how all the illegal aliens got here and why.

Right now this is a California issue, but believe me Newsom is going to run for President and he will win....Not sure why, but people will buy his BS and let him run this country and I am fearful what this french laundry greaser will do once he ruins California and then makes it into the White House...people need to know and understand that this guy spends your money and doesn't think twice about what it does to the people nor does he care...he tries to lead as an example but the guy is a clown....

Did anyone catch that he met with Norway today in a climate control issue....anyone catch that shit because I have that info as well..

Malihini's in Hawaii

@ABooksNightmare

 Not so sure a Gavin Newsom candidate will be all that they are saying. All can see what he did to California and where it is headed. The broke, woke, smoke State is in trouble. Many are leaving and when all that money slows, they will be forced to change direction.

More lunacy from California regarding proposed unemployment...these people voting and making these decisions just want to keep adding on to the business liability for no particular reason....this bill is absolute mind boggling....Pay close attention to who voted yes and who voted no of the 5 that voted....At least Newsom had enough sense to veto this...

A California Chamber of Commerce job killer bill that will increase unemployment insurance (UI) taxes to subsidize striking workers passed a Senate committee this week.

SB 1116 (Portantino; D-Burbank) passed the Senate Labor, Public Employment and Retirement Committee on April 24 on a vote of 4-1.

The bill will allow striking workers to claim UI benefits when they choose to strike. Because the UI Fund is paid for entirely by employers, SB 1116 will effectively add more debt onto California employers. Moreover, SB 1116 will effectively force employers to subsidize strikes at completely unrelated businesses because the UI Fund’s debt adds taxes for all employers, regardless of whether they’ve had a strike.

SB 1116 is a repeat of last year’s SB 799 (Portantino; D-Burbank), which was tagged as a job killer and was vetoed by Governor Gavin Newsom because of the debt it would add to California’s UI Fund. This concern is even more pressing given this year’s budget troubles.

Coalition Opposition

More than 120 organizations have joined the CalChamber in a coalition to oppose SB 1116. In a letter sent to legislators, the coalition pointed out that the bill creates a fundamental unfairness by forcing employers with absolutely no involvement in any strikes to pay for labor disputes in which they have no involvement.

UI Fund loans from the federal government are paid off via tax increases on all employers across the state—not just employers who have striking workers.

Though individual strikes will have different facts, all strikes are part of a negotiation between two parties. Taking money from every other employer in the state (small employers included) and forcing those uninvolved parties to pay the costs of one side of a labor dispute is profoundly unfair, the coalition stressed.

The coalition also is concerned about SB 1116’s impact on California’s insolvent UI Fund.

The bill would give striking workers the ability to claim unemployment after two weeks of striking — and thereby add the cost of those benefits to California’s outstanding $10 billion in federal loans.

UI Fund Historic Debt

The California UI Fund is in historic debt — approximately $20 billion — due to the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent statewide shutdown. As a result, California employers already are paying increased UI taxes pursuant to federal law and are likely to face ongoing tax increases until approximately 2032.

In addition to adding to employers’ tax burdens, SB 1116 will also add to the state’s General Fund obligation regarding the UI Fund. For example, in 2023–2024, the interest payment is expected to cost the state approximately $300 million — and similar payments will continue until the UI Fund returns to solvency. In the proposed 2024–2025 budget, the interest payment is estimated to rise to $331 million.

SB 1116 risks compounding UI’s insolvency, which will weigh heavily on the State, California’s employers, and California’s unemployed.

Key Vote

Senate Labor, Public Employment and Retirement approved SB 1116 on April 24, 4-1:

Ayes: Smallwood-Cuevas (D-Los Angeles), Cortese (D-San Jose), Durazo (D-Los Angeles), Laird (D-Santa Cruz).

No: Wilk (R-Santa Clarita).

The bill will be considered next by the Senate Appropriations Committee.

@ABooksNightmare

So Obama made Health care mandatory and all had to pay for it. Now we all pay for it unless you are illegal which if free.

Only in America and the illegals will soon have more rights verses the citizens. 

They already have more rights...although health care is cheaper in mexico some parts are free here in the US...we won't deny you being looked at in hospital emergency rooms but when you are here under a fake name and bill out to a fake name/person then yea the treatment becomes free....

If you have access to someone who can make fake id's then you can keep changing your name because you are already somewhere illegally...people don't talk about this very much but these type of people have nothing to lose so they can play the system...it's happening...I see it with people trying to work..come in looking for work under one name and when that ID doesn't work they come back with new ones just to start the cycle again...they have nothing to lose like legal citizens do....this should be talked about more how they are smart enough to manipulate the entire system...good for them bad on us...this shit is systemic  all across the board and we tax payers pay for it...

Thank you for being legal..now he is the bill for the table next to you that couldn't pay...

@witswits

Yeah -- saw a meme the other day along those lines.  Healthcare was mandatory and you got fined if you did not get, but illegals get it for free.

Just astounding the 'logic' behind all of this. 

Yes, California has a penalty if you do not have health insurance...the penalty can be for the individual or the business if the State's exchange program is used... the key is though you have to file returns to get caught 

The business gets fined for each person that obtains from the state and the employer insurance is not affordable or is more than a percentage of your income...usually somewhere around 8 to 9.5% of tour annual income...if it's more than that a business pays a penalty...kind of ridiculous...

How many are not filing because they have 3 names or dont file because they are not legal here in California..where are those stats

@ABooksNightmare

 Yet they still vote for these people in Ca. and never learn. Matter of time till all the bridges collapse and the US will be forced to shut most programs and BS projects down.