Chicago's body count 65 shot 13 killed.

Again, Here are 7 English translations.

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=29

I didn't ask you to translate Arabic. I asked you to simplify verse 9:29 in English for the forum. When you're done simplifying the verse in English. I'll respond to everything.

I assumed you revealed to the forum that you claimed to be an attorney because I've seen posters refer to you as a lawyer in the past.

As to your acumen, I believe your acumen to be incompetent by the fact you can't even simplify/paraphrase a single sentence. This is something basically taught to kids reading on a 4th grade level.

I will be glad to answer anything you ask me and respond to everything in your posts as soon as you are done paraphrasing the sentence. I will continue to ask every week.

Chicago violence is out of control. Laws are the toughest in any reasonable contexts and criminals still use guns to kill citizens. Nearly 15,000 homicides in cities with tough gun laws and criminals still kill with guns because criminals by definition do not obey laws new gun laws are useless.
In Europe ammo laws contain gun violence.
So if ammo the only thing that makes a gun effective is available to anyone. I still assert new gun laws are useless.

As for dj and money's discussion. Muslims make a great case for Jesus to be a man of god. Where Muslims assert the god of most high is above needing a begotten son and Christians asserting he will be the father both religions believe he was godly. White Baptists and Isis can be patrolled as both evil. As Isis is killing Muslims for not being Muslim enough as Aryans lynch men as the worship Jesus both secs of religion are indeed evil to most reasonable people.

It's been 24 days djbrow

Actually, only 7 days. I realize as you continue to lose your grasp of reality, it may seem like longer. 

Excuse me for interjecting a comment ,because if I wait yous' guy's may go on forever...and I forgot why a thread about the  body count in Chicago has led us to  talking about Muslims..but nevertheless..

'Why is it 99% of those killed by Muslims are other Muslims' ?

That's an easy one..

Muslims have been slaughtering other Muslims since the split after the death of the Prophet Muhammad almost a thousand years ago..and it continues today with ISIS,,,who view all non-Sunnis ( and even some Sunnis ) as false Muslims,heretics who need to submit to the 'true Islam' and that the other side is 'not Islamic enough'.

Having said that,, and in line with the thread topic ... I ask ...Why is it 93% of black homicide victims from 1980 through 2008 were killed by black offenders?

Post # 141 in response to djbrow

Posted by MoneySRH: 10/2/2016 11:46:07 PM

Ok, you think my translation of the verse 9:29 is wrong.  Ok, then, why don't YOU translate the verse in plain English for the forum.

Only 7 days? Today is the 27th of October. That would mean I've been waiting 25 days for an answer.

I already have an answer. I’m just waiting for you to paraphrase verse 9:29 in simple English first.

Here are the 7 English translations, again.
https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=29

You have 2 options:

Option A: You concede my translation as 100 percent correct
Option B: You paraphrase verse 9:29 in simple English for the forum

That’s it. There is no option C.

The taken out of context game lol. I'll dismiss that myth after you are finished. The author was practicing taqiyya.

SarasotaSlim - I already explained the reason Muslims kill other Muslims to him. These are the 3 reasons.

1. Intra-Muslim conflicts - Shia vs. Sunni - fundamentalists vs. moderates vs. apostates - Kharijites, Wahhabis, etc. or ethnic conflicts, or economics, or tribalism

2. Jihad applies to other Muslims too. Not all Muslims are considered equal according to the Quran. The Quran calls ‘not true Muslims,’ “hypocrites.”

3. Muslims kill the easiest and most available targets. Not many Christians and J3ws to kill in Muslim countries. It’s really difficult to kill Christians and J3ws in Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Palestine, Syria, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia when the countries are over 90 to 100 percent Muslim.

Muslims have to go to psycho liberal lands to find targets. It’s much easier for Muslims to wage Jihad against US soldiers on Muslim lands and to kill other Muslims in the name of jihad than it is to find Christians and J3ws to slaughter in the name of Allah over there.

SarasotaSlim, here are some Quran verses that expand on your point.

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=17&verse=33
And do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [(to demand Qisas, Law of Equality in punishment or to forgive, or to take Diya (blood money)]. But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer only). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic law).

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=73
O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them, their abode is Hell, - and worst indeed is that destination.

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=56
They swear by Allah that they are truly of you while they are not of you, but they are a people (hypocrites) who are afraid (that you may kill them).

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=9&verse=68
Allah has promised the hypocrites; men and women, and the disbelievers, the Fire of Hell, therein shall they abide. It will suffice them. Allah has cursed them and for them is the lasting torment.

It's been 27 days now djbrow

MoneySRH, sounds like a open and shut case to me...

You guys are very cute together. Kind of Lloyd and Harry. 

Djbrow - No, you did not provide the simple paraphrased verse of 9:29 that I've been asking for the last 28 days.

I see a bunch of bullsh1t deflection and a link with excuses for why verse 9:29 in fact exists in the Quran - and no where does the Quran say that verse 9:29 only applies to that moment in time, or is there a verse or passage that retracts, or abolishes, or provides secession to verse 9:29 anywhere in the Quran. Which is exactly why Muslims are out to kill Christians and j3ws today. You should just give up now. This is getting extremely pathetic.

I see no simple paraphrased verse of 9:29 anywhere. I ask again, where is the simple paraphrased verse of 9:29?

I've already answered you multiple times. (Read this very slowly.) (The Quran calls for devout Muslims to kill other Muslims for jihad and for a caliphate (pause and reflect and re-read) and to kill and rid the world of Muslim hypocrites in order to create a pure Muslim world.) (pause and reflect and re-read) And before you reply. Please re-read everything I put in parenthesis multiple times. I don't know how much simpler I can put it for you.

djbrow,there wasn't a correlation.. As I noted at the end of my post .. I was making a comment "in line with the thread topic"..not related to your contention that all Muslims are not violent and evil..But,since you are looking for a connection of violence and evil in Islam..I offer these as examples:

  "So before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world. And all of us against the infidel."  ~Leon Uris  "The Hajj".

Remember ...Allah’s laws remain forever.

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. ( both evil and violent)

 Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

So, you are correct in saying "all Muslims are not violent and evil..nevertheless most of them are and the remaining few are just hypocrites..

..............
 

Wow. You are such an angry individual. I know things have been difficult since your wife of Mexican heritage left and I understand that is one of your attractions to Donald Trump. I expect that with therapy you will revert to the reasoned poster I remember for the last many years. 

This is hilarious. “Anti-Muslim bigots happen to always come across this verse, and show it to people who know little about Islam. They give the impression that Islam sanctions the killing of person and Christians at all times.”

Notice how there are no verses or passages before verse 9:29 or after 9:29 to support the list of excuses. It’s all fabricated opinions.

I love how the pedophile worshipers say the Quran gives the impression that Islam sanctions the killing of person and Christians at all times. LOL! The impression? LOL! It’s not an impression. It’s strictly does sanction the killing.

Nowhere in the Quran does Muhammad say that the order to kill Christians and Jewz - is just simply temporary, nor does Muhammad order Muslims to stop killing Christians and Jewz after some point - after Quran verse 9:29.  

Awwww, they're just misunderstood. You’re right, DjBrow. I guess pedophile worshiper Muslims are just misunderstood.

The K-K-K says they are misunderstood too.

“We don’t hate people because of their race. I mean, we’re a Christian organization, because of the acts of a few rogue Klansmen our Klansmen are supposed to be murderers and want to lynch black people, and we are supposed to be terrorists, and that is a complete falsehood.” - Frank Ancona - Imperial Wizard of the Traditional American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan

Like the K-K-K, I guess the atrocities committed by Muslims are just misunderstandings.

By your childish logic, not all K-K-K members are bad people, just the ones who act out.

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maybe some of u will become educated... prob. not though