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    Court: Trump’s “Absolute Immunity” is “Absolute BS”

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2024 - 4:31 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dangerous arugement to claim former president's can be tried in court for making a speech where he encourges the crowd to march peacefully.. A reason for the violence is the false belief of stolen election promoted by Trump.  He told the crowd "if you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country any more." Witnesses confirm major dereliction of duty for him to do nothing to stop the violence.  Pence called for help.  Trump writes about peace months later.

    Absolutely.  He was president at the time.  His job to control HIS OWN MOB!!!  No buck passing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dangerous arugement to claim former president's can be tried in court for making a speech where he encourges the crowd to march peacefully.. A reason for the violence is the false belief of stolen election promoted by Trump.  He told the crowd "if you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country any more." Witnesses confirm major dereliction of duty for him to do nothing to stop the violence.  Pence called for help.  Trump writes about peace months later.

    Absolutely.  He was president at the time.  His job to control HIS OWN MOB!!!  No buck passing here.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2024 - 1:40 PM ET #77

    From here on in my mind set is if Republicans wish to break the law because they do not believe they will be held accountable, so be it. I see no compelling reason to have comment with them that illegal things are illegal and that they should not engage in such behavior even if up until this point no one has been punished for it.

    They would not heed such a warning anyhow. Over the four years of the Trump administration I would bet they heard some variation of “what you are doing is wrong and you know it” every single day. They are not suddenly going to become receptive to this message on hearing it for the 1500th time. Remember the impeachments? The Republicans said “we agree with you that Trump broke the law but we aren’t going to punish him because we don’t like how you impeached him for it.” Or early last year, because the civil suit in New York names Trump’s children, Republicans are saying that going after his kids is beyond the pale. The same Republicans will turn around and tell you what a villain Hunter Biden is and how he is the one that should be investigated yet still what have they really proved ? Not enough to do no work for the people in 2 years while having a majority in congress.They are immune to cognitive dissonance …No compromise just my way or the Highway!

    I want them to continue disregard any legal action not in there interest even bigger, do more outrageous stuff. I’m sure they can find a lawyer who will endorse it as a defense and continue to get found guilty. Over time Trump has burned though lawyers to the point that his current one would rather be beautiful than smart because as she says “ You can always fake being smart”! …..I hope she has to go to litigation and fake it to get paid ! 

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    From here on in my mind set is if Republicans wish to break the law because they do not believe they will be held accountable, so be it. I see no compelling reason to have comment with them that illegal things are illegal and that they should not engage in such behavior even if up until this point no one has been punished for it.

    They would not heed such a warning anyhow. Over the four years of the Trump administration I would bet they heard some variation of “what you are doing is wrong and you know it” every single day. They are not suddenly going to become receptive to this message on hearing it for the 1500th time. Remember the impeachments? The Republicans said “we agree with you that Trump broke the law but we aren’t going to punish him because we don’t like how you impeached him for it.” Or early last year, because the civil suit in New York names Trump’s children, Republicans are saying that going after his kids is beyond the pale. The same Republicans will turn around and tell you what a villain Hunter Biden is and how he is the one that should be investigated yet still what have they really proved ? Not enough to do no work for the people in 2 years while having a majority in congress.They are immune to cognitive dissonance …No compromise just my way or the Highway!

    I want them to continue disregard any legal action not in there interest even bigger, do more outrageous stuff. I’m sure they can find a lawyer who will endorse it as a defense and continue to get found guilty. Over time Trump has burned though lawyers to the point that his current one would rather be beautiful than smart because as she says “ You can always fake being smart”! …..I hope she has to go to litigation and fake it to get paid ! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2024 - 7:42 PM ET #78

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     Charge with what …Soiling his pants ? Trump has been doing it for years! I just hope the commissary has his size in the Tombs in Manhattan !  

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    @UNIMAN

     Charge with what …Soiling his pants ? Trump has been doing it for years! I just hope the commissary has his size in the Tombs in Manhattan !  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2024 - 1:31 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dangerous arugement to claim former president's can be tried in court for making a speech where he encourges the crowd to march peacefully.. A reason for the violence is the false belief of stolen election promoted by Trump.  He told the crowd "if you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country any more." Witnesses confirm major dereliction of duty for him to do nothing to stop the violence.  Pence called for help.  Trump writes about peace months later. Absolutely.  He was president at the time.  His job to control HIS OWN MOB!!!  No buck passing here.
    The riots in the cities after Floyd's murder and the Jan 6 deadly mob assault on our capitol all happened under who's watch as president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dangerous arugement to claim former president's can be tried in court for making a speech where he encourges the crowd to march peacefully.. A reason for the violence is the false belief of stolen election promoted by Trump.  He told the crowd "if you don't fight like hell, you won't have a country any more." Witnesses confirm major dereliction of duty for him to do nothing to stop the violence.  Pence called for help.  Trump writes about peace months later. Absolutely.  He was president at the time.  His job to control HIS OWN MOB!!!  No buck passing here.
    The riots in the cities after Floyd's murder and the Jan 6 deadly mob assault on our capitol all happened under who's watch as president?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2024 - 4:02 PM ET #80

    Withs Trumps theory of how is Absolute immune from any criminal charges while President I really wish someone had asked……

    “If Joe Biden believed it was in the best interest of the country to have Donald Trump assassinated by a drone strike, would Biden have presidential immunity or does his theory only apply to Republican presidents? And if he quit before an impeachment, does this mean he gets off scot-free, since he can’t be prosecuted according to his lawyers reasoning?

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    Withs Trumps theory of how is Absolute immune from any criminal charges while President I really wish someone had asked……

    “If Joe Biden believed it was in the best interest of the country to have Donald Trump assassinated by a drone strike, would Biden have presidential immunity or does his theory only apply to Republican presidents? And if he quit before an impeachment, does this mean he gets off scot-free, since he can’t be prosecuted according to his lawyers reasoning?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2024 - 5:24 PM ET #81

    Absolute immunity?? surprised

     

    The indicted sex-offender/RICO crime boss leader of the formerly sane republican party is the first candidate EVER to campaign for the right to commit any crime he damn well pleases, no matter what...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbyoK-TsRa4

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    Absolute immunity?? surprised

     

    The indicted sex-offender/RICO crime boss leader of the formerly sane republican party is the first candidate EVER to campaign for the right to commit any crime he damn well pleases, no matter what...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbyoK-TsRa4

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 12:08 PM ET #82

    Aww man, ANOTHER court trashed Trump’s bogus absolute immunity defense. The dotard just can’t catch a break!

    WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Tuesday rejected Donald Trump’s broad claim that he is immune from prosecution for alleged criminal acts he committed as president in trying to overturn the 2020 election in a chain of events that led to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    ”I should be able to commit any crime I want, whether I am in or out of office, because I said so,” Trump wrote on his social media website, Truth Social. “Criming is what I do best, I can absolutely get away with it. Man, woman, camera, Obama, hamberders, TV. My dementia tests show my brain smarts is better than covfefe, and Nancy Haley cost us the 2026 election. When I am dictator, we will do our best to invite my old pals Putin and Kim Jong Un to help Make America Great Again!”

     

    https://news.google.com/articles/CBMigAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5uYmNuZXdzLmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy9zdXByZW1lLWNvdXJ0L2FwcGVhbHMtY291cnQtcnVsZXMtdHJ1bXAtcHJlc2lkZW50aWFsLWltbXVuaXR5LTIwMjAtZWxlY3Rpb24taW50ZXJmZXItcmNuYTEzMzIzNNIBK2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm5iY25ld3MuY29tL25ld3MvYW1wL3JjbmExMzMyMzQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

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    Aww man, ANOTHER court trashed Trump’s bogus absolute immunity defense. The dotard just can’t catch a break!

    WASHINGTON — A federal appeals court on Tuesday rejected Donald Trump’s broad claim that he is immune from prosecution for alleged criminal acts he committed as president in trying to overturn the 2020 election in a chain of events that led to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

    ”I should be able to commit any crime I want, whether I am in or out of office, because I said so,” Trump wrote on his social media website, Truth Social. “Criming is what I do best, I can absolutely get away with it. Man, woman, camera, Obama, hamberders, TV. My dementia tests show my brain smarts is better than covfefe, and Nancy Haley cost us the 2026 election. When I am dictator, we will do our best to invite my old pals Putin and Kim Jong Un to help Make America Great Again!”

     

    https://news.google.com/articles/CBMigAFodHRwczovL3d3dy5uYmNuZXdzLmNvbS9wb2xpdGljcy9zdXByZW1lLWNvdXJ0L2FwcGVhbHMtY291cnQtcnVsZXMtdHJ1bXAtcHJlc2lkZW50aWFsLWltbXVuaXR5LTIwMjAtZWxlY3Rpb24taW50ZXJmZXItcmNuYTEzMzIzNNIBK2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm5iY25ld3MuY29tL25ld3MvYW1wL3JjbmExMzMyMzQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 12:17 PM ET #83

    He’s too much of an asshole to be president peace_5

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    He’s too much of an asshole to be president peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 12:37 PM ET #84

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     You'll make friends here - LOL

    I can only imagine when that day will come
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     You'll make friends here - LOL

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 12:40 PM ET #85

    Bro I make friends everywhere . You should see me at parties . I’m a big hit . And that’s before I put the lampshade on my head and do the Thriller Dance peace_5

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    Bro I make friends everywhere . You should see me at parties . I’m a big hit . And that’s before I put the lampshade on my head and do the Thriller Dance peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 3:45 PM ET #86

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    When Supreme Court rejected Smith’s application for an expedited hearing, it could have been because they decided to allow Trump maximum possible delay by forcing it to go through DC appeals before they hear it. Trumps jury will be the election in November! in my opinion considering the time frame and importance the highest court has failed the country and aided there party. They will never have to show there cards! 

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    When Supreme Court rejected Smith’s application for an expedited hearing, it could have been because they decided to allow Trump maximum possible delay by forcing it to go through DC appeals before they hear it. Trumps jury will be the election in November! in my opinion considering the time frame and importance the highest court has failed the country and aided there party. They will never have to show there cards! 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 6:45 PM ET #87

    If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is. But I can just about guarantee that they'll say he can stay on the ballot. 

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    If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is. But I can just about guarantee that they'll say he can stay on the ballot. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 6:59 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is. But I can just about guarantee that they'll say he can stay on the ballot.

    It really is a no brainer. His attorneys are making absurd arguments that the president is a dictator immune from all criminal prosecution for any criminal acts, including murder. (See the oral arguments, an appellate judge asked a hypothetical about assassinating a political opponent.)

    Delay delay delay in hopes of a miracle lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is. But I can just about guarantee that they'll say he can stay on the ballot.

    It really is a no brainer. His attorneys are making absurd arguments that the president is a dictator immune from all criminal prosecution for any criminal acts, including murder. (See the oral arguments, an appellate judge asked a hypothetical about assassinating a political opponent.)

    Delay delay delay in hopes of a miracle lol

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2024 - 7:08 PM ET #89

    Sounds like the case against Diddy in Tupac’s murder peace_5

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    Sounds like the case against Diddy in Tupac’s murder peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2024 - 1:37 AM ET #90

    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ? 

    The Pastor of Disaster
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    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ? 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2024 - 2:56 AM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ?

    The answer would be “yes” if Biden violated any criminal statutes. However, no sober normal human being (correction: no human beings whatsoever) has asserted any cause of action in any court of law. Actually let me correct that, nobody has ever alleged that under penalty of perjury - probably because it’s not true.

    But yes, if Biden were to actually commit a crime, he could be prosecuted after he left office. Don’t worry though, ya boy Trump opposes that and thinks “president Equools deektator.” So using Trump’s logic, a sitting president could shoot any one of us and never face any criminal liability as long as Congress didn’t convict the prez on impeachment.  

    So if you ever hope for any criminal repercussions against Biden or any other president, Donald Trump is literally arguing right now that you’re clearly clearly wrong. I apologize to the bootlickers who were too lazy to ever consider that, but yes you are literally arguing for a fascist dictatorship. 

    So no, Biden could never be prosecuted for anything. Sorry Bud, try again if/when your bros stop spit shining DJT’s sack.

    Let’s tear up the Constitution so some sad sacks can oppose democracy! Yay! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ?

    The answer would be “yes” if Biden violated any criminal statutes. However, no sober normal human being (correction: no human beings whatsoever) has asserted any cause of action in any court of law. Actually let me correct that, nobody has ever alleged that under penalty of perjury - probably because it’s not true.

    But yes, if Biden were to actually commit a crime, he could be prosecuted after he left office. Don’t worry though, ya boy Trump opposes that and thinks “president Equools deektator.” So using Trump’s logic, a sitting president could shoot any one of us and never face any criminal liability as long as Congress didn’t convict the prez on impeachment.  

    So if you ever hope for any criminal repercussions against Biden or any other president, Donald Trump is literally arguing right now that you’re clearly clearly wrong. I apologize to the bootlickers who were too lazy to ever consider that, but yes you are literally arguing for a fascist dictatorship. 

    So no, Biden could never be prosecuted for anything. Sorry Bud, try again if/when your bros stop spit shining DJT’s sack.

    Let’s tear up the Constitution so some sad sacks can oppose democracy! Yay! 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2024 - 3:00 AM ET #92

    It’s always fun to observe that none - NONE - of the MAGAs in this forum ever back Trump’s insane claims of absolute immunity. 

    It’s because we’re all aware it’s a bunch of bs. No chance of winning whatsoever. It’s purely a delay tactic in another attempt to subvert democracy and free enterprise! 

    If you hate America, Trump is 100% for you. 

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    It’s always fun to observe that none - NONE - of the MAGAs in this forum ever back Trump’s insane claims of absolute immunity. 

    It’s because we’re all aware it’s a bunch of bs. No chance of winning whatsoever. It’s purely a delay tactic in another attempt to subvert democracy and free enterprise! 

    If you hate America, Trump is 100% for you. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ?

    For decades, courts have ruled that immigration isn't an invasion.  Since GOP house has failed to impeach homeland security secretary, Biden shouldn't be impeached because of no evidence of high crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarossa:

    This Presidential immunity ruling means Biden can be indicted right now for Treason by aiding an Invasion ?

    For decades, courts have ruled that immigration isn't an invasion.  Since GOP house has failed to impeach homeland security secretary, Biden shouldn't be impeached because of no evidence of high crime.

     
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    @DrStrangelove

     If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is.



    Taking place as we speak.....

    SCOTUS judges on both sides of the election aisle are dialing up the HEAT on these clown Colorado attorneys.....

     

    What aspects of the Colorado ruling would you base their ruling as "pretty solid" and "no brainer"  ??   

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @DrStrangelove

     If SCOTUS doesn't want to appear partisan or be labelled as Trump's pet court, they will decline to take this case up. I would say the ruling is pretty solid and a no brainer as is.



    Taking place as we speak.....

    SCOTUS judges on both sides of the election aisle are dialing up the HEAT on these clown Colorado attorneys.....

     

    What aspects of the Colorado ruling would you base their ruling as "pretty solid" and "no brainer"  ??   

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2024 - 12:00 PM ET #96

    SCOTUS Judge to Colorado attorney:

    "Do you want us to just watch the video of President Trump on the Ellipse and come to a conclusion?"

     

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Time is a flat circle....
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    SCOTUS Judge to Colorado attorney:

    "Do you want us to just watch the video of President Trump on the Ellipse and come to a conclusion?"

     

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2024 - 12:07 PM ET #97

    Justice Kagan:

    "The question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be President of the United States."

     

      

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Justice Kagan:

    "The question that you have to confront is why a single state should decide who gets to be President of the United States."

     

      

     
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    Justice Gorsuch:

    "How does that work given that Section 3 speaks about holding office, not who may run for office?"

     

    That was Colorado's entire argument for keeping Trump off the ballot.  Bye.  

    Time is a flat circle....
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    Justice Gorsuch:

    "How does that work given that Section 3 speaks about holding office, not who may run for office?"

     

    That was Colorado's entire argument for keeping Trump off the ballot.  Bye.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Justice Gorsuch: "How does that work given that Section 3 speaks about holding office, not who may run for office?"   That was Colorado's entire argument for keeping Trump off the ballot.  Bye.

    This happened during the transition though, the underlying reasoning for the decision Colorado made. So it seems that the comment that biased justice made is not understanding the proper perspective. He was still in office/seeking to stay in office when the actions which took place facilitated the need in that states view about Trump.

    Plus dont you find it a bit hypocritical if this group of goofy states rights advocates who made some MASSIVE decisions based on giving states rights on a FEDERAL ISSUE (abortion) would not do the same in this situation? If the SCOTUS has a narrative about states rights vs federal then that would for sure apply here. It isnt like Colorado is saying that Trump is completely out, just for their state and their decision.

    I would wager that this biased judge pool will do what Trump wants, it would be a shocker to see otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    Justice Gorsuch: "How does that work given that Section 3 speaks about holding office, not who may run for office?"   That was Colorado's entire argument for keeping Trump off the ballot.  Bye.

    This happened during the transition though, the underlying reasoning for the decision Colorado made. So it seems that the comment that biased justice made is not understanding the proper perspective. He was still in office/seeking to stay in office when the actions which took place facilitated the need in that states view about Trump.

    Plus dont you find it a bit hypocritical if this group of goofy states rights advocates who made some MASSIVE decisions based on giving states rights on a FEDERAL ISSUE (abortion) would not do the same in this situation? If the SCOTUS has a narrative about states rights vs federal then that would for sure apply here. It isnt like Colorado is saying that Trump is completely out, just for their state and their decision.

    I would wager that this biased judge pool will do what Trump wants, it would be a shocker to see otherwise.

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