Covid-19 Good And Bad

Virus testing per capita, the US ranks 44th.

Horrible

"Administration officials say the White House has made a deliberate political calculation that it will better serve Trump’s interest to put the onus on governors — not the federal government — to figure out how to move ahead."

Michigan Governor Whitmer opened an alternative care center today in Detroit to lessen the burden in city hospitals.

They built the center in 9 days.

Reminder.....please send those pizzas tonight to families in your neighborhood.

Come back into thread when you finish ordering them & I'll give you a winner in the ponies tomorrow which is my way of saying thanks for your good deed.

Fast forward a month later and this virus appears to be less than advertised. To date, it’s infected around 1.5 million people, purportedly killing almost 90,000 worldwide. This, out of a population of 7.5 billion, 150,000 of whom die every day for all manner of reasons. It’s a tragedy, especially for those directly affected, but statistically speaking, it’s a drop in the proverbial bucket. Our response, on the other hand, has been over the top. The United States and many other countries have shut down huge parts of their economies, billions of people have been quarantined against their will, police states are running rampant, and businesses have been shuttered, all while government prints trillions to attempt to “relieve” the dire economic situation. 

While leftists seem thrilled about the coming Great Depression and the rampant police states full of governors and public officials living out their tin-pot dictator fantasies and seem perfectly happy being confined to their mom’s basements, many conservatives are now questioning the necessity of the current state of affairs...has always been for taking the virus seriously - as we should take any transmittable disease - he’s among many now questioning the wisdom of the government’s approach:

“What we should’ve had before we locked the entire country down and put 10 million people out of work.”

But tragically, that’s exactly what we’ve done, except the number of out-of-work cases continues to skyrocket while COVID-19 cases continue to, well, remain pretty tame compared to what we were told to expect. But what about all those models that predicted a literal zombie apocalypse if the world didn’t stop functioning? Just a week or two ago, weren’t we told there would be 100,000, even 200,000 deaths in the United States alone, even with social distancing measures taken into account? Now the IHME model is predicting around 60,000 deaths by August - in other words, pretty much the equivalent of a rough flu season. And that's probably still high.

Then there’s mounting evidence, nay admissions, that plenty of attributed coronavirus deaths may not have even been caused by the virus itself. “COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” reads the actual CDC instructions. During Tuesday’s press conference Dr. Birx admitted as much, saying, “We've taken a very liberal approach to mortality.” So, do we do that with other causes of death? If someone has a heart attack and a cold at the same time, do we attribute the cause of death to the cold? If someone had stage 4 cancer and was given six weeks to live, then catches coronavirus and dies in three, does anyone really think the virus is what did them in in the end? If someone has a car accident and happened to have coronavirus in their system, do we chalk another one up to COVID-19? We should all be asking why our medical experts are using such a “liberal approach.” Could it cynically be to try and justify this heavy-handed response, now that things aren’t turning out as dire as the models led us to believe?

the fact that in the last several week

the fact that in the last several weeks, for some odd reason, CDC-cited pneumonia deaths have been “far lower” than normal. “It seems entirely possible that doctors are classifying conventional pneumonia deaths as COVID-19 deaths,” he said. “That would mean this epidemic is being credited for thousands of deaths that would have occurred if the virus never appeared here.”

There’s also the growing belief that we’ve lived with this virus for months even before the national panic started. To be clear, this is anecdotal, but I know more than one person who had the “worst flu of their lives” sometime in November or December. With hundreds of thousands traveling freely back and forth from China, should we really believe our first cases happened in February?

“It’s starting to look like the Coronavirus is more transmissible than we expected, or were told,” 

“The good news is, it also seems far less lethal overall. People are dying in large numbers. Not all of them are sick or old, and that’s terrifying to watch. But as the data trickle in, there’s evidence that many infected people aren’t sick.”

As things progress, the numerator will hopefully continue to be lower than projected and the denominator will continue to rise as more and more people are tested and especially if we develop a way to find out if people have ever contracted the disease. That’s actually good news, unless you’re a leftist who wants to use this “crisis” to accomplish your sinister goals.

These observations mean no disrespect to anyone who has been negatively affected in any way by this disease. While the vast majority recover just fine, it takes a grave toll on a certain percentage of its victims, and they deserve our thoughts, prayers, and support. Nobody wants it, and reasonable measures should certainly have been taken to protect the vulnerable and mitigate its spread. However, as far as superviruses go, this one may not turn out to be the end of the world as we know it. The Chinese coronavirus is the Dr. Evil of superviruses, putting its pinky to the corner of its mouth, laughing maniacally and promising to kill “tens of thousands” of people. But as for the damage that's to come? We've done that to ourselves.

he’s among many now questioning the wisdom of the government’s approach:

“What if we’d asked the elderly and immunocompromised and anyone else facing statistically higher rates of risk to stay inside, cloistered away?” “And then at the same time allow the rest of the population to use informed common sense and continue to work? What if we’d done that a month ago? Would the death rate today be much higher than it is now? Maybe, maybe not. We don’t know. But it’s clearly a conversation we should’ve had before we locked the entire country down and put 10 million people out of work.”

Trump should stop saying "he's going to reopen the country."

He doesn't have the power to do so & he sounds foolish every time he makes that statement. 

Where did she get the materials to build the Center ? Not Lowes or Home Deput ....That same Michigan Governor is calling on Home Depot and Lowes to shut down to ....close certain sections like flooring, garden centers and plant nurseries....However all liquor stores remain open...Thats it Gov..keep open just the essentials ..Plus Families cannot travel for Easter..

So why should I take anything aright wing trump sac hanger has to say?

darkhorse12.    All you need to stay healthy during the Chinese virus crisis is zinc and vitamin C. Take healthy daily dosages of each to help keep your immunity at a high level.

Just in case of failure. Buy some Schweppes tonic water. This product has quinine. Quinine will help you defeat Covid 19. Quinine was used by British Army's  centuries ago to protect their soldiers from malaria.

You will feel fine after drinking the quinine!

You will probably have to ask the army corps of engineers for that info slim.

No thanx I'll just do  what my doctor tells me to do. I really don't believe what the liar and thief in the WH has to say since he has a personal stake in the company that makes the meds you tout.

And I won't be going to the tropics so I'm not worried about Malaria. By the way how does hydrochloroquine work?

The layman's interpretation darkhorse12. The hydroxychloroquine opens up the cells to allow zinc to penetrate. The zinc prevents the virus from replicating.

darkhorse12.   Your doctor is committing malpractice if he does not teach you the upside of zinc and vitamin C.

I bet DARKHOSE wasn't expecting such an informed response from you SUNDANCE.   It's ok to thank your fellow covers members DARKHOSE. 

She got them from FEMA after waiting weeks. That is the role FEMA should be playing across the country.

As far a liquor stores remaining open nationwide, you know the answer to that. I know you do. Home Depot/Loews are not "essential" businesses & shouldn't be open. I don't know about Arizona but no one in Florida is doing any construction projects and cities are not even looking at permits to do work.

March 10th ...1,000 cases

April 10th......500,339 cases. Imagine what it will be when we actually have tests available to all who need them.

February 26th..." And again when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a few days is going to be down close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done." Per the Liar in Chief. I think he was talking about the number of Inspector Generals.

He said it wasn't real. 

He said it's contained.

He said it would disappear.

He blamed the Democrats.

He overruled his scientists.

He has endangered everyone of us.

He has failed our country.

Rush51

There is construction going on everywhere in the Valley of the sun ...you can't go a mile without seeing some sort of building going up..they are eating up the desert quick ..and it won't stop anytime soon ..people just keep coming here..the city of Phoenix itself is the fastest-growing city in the U.S., according to Census data released in early 2019..

Washington State Returns Unused Army Hospital As COVID-19 Curve Flattens

Last week, the Army scrambled to set up a 250-bed field hospital in an events center next to Seattle's baseball stadium. This week, the state has decided it doesn't need it.

It's an indication of how dramatically the forecast for hospital demand has improved in Washington, which saw the country's first known COVID-19 deaths at the end of February. In mid-March, when the state first requested the Army's help, projections showed COVID-19 patients overwhelming local hospitals. But with aggressive social distancing rules and a clearing-out of many non-COVID-19 patients from the system, that fear has receded. According to one model, the state may have already passed the peak of COVID-19 hospital demand.

The Army field hospital may have been more trouble than it was worth. Cassie Sauer, CEO of the Washington State Hospital Association, says transferring civilian patients to an Army facility involves "a ton of logistics," and just setting up the field hospital meant multiple meetings every day for high-level state planners, many of whom had more urgent matters to attend to.

"I don't want to sound ungrateful," Sauer says. "If we'd needed it, it would have been worthwhile."

One problem was the plan for the Army hospital to take only patients without COVID-19, which was supposed to free up beds in civilian hospitals for those who did have the disease. But civilian hospitals in the Seattle area have canceled so many elective procedures that bed space is no longer an urgent problem. And Sauer says that in the end, not a single patient was transferred to the field hospital.

Construction going on all over. Lowe’s and Home Depot still busy.  Curfew in effect.  But they building all kinds of stuff.  

Guess they are essential workers.  

If they want to shut down things — they need to make Walmart sell only food, pharmacy, etc. 

People all over buying toys, clothes, TVs etc.  

Not completely fair to places that do not sell food or drugs.