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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2024 - 10:48 AM ET #4776

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Pandemic crisis brings out the best or worst in world leaders.  US news reveal Trump was among the worst leaders.  His early denial, spreading of misinformation, ignoring of public health intervention and incoherent leadership harm US.  Task force coordinator Birx says most deaths could have been prevented in 2020.  Instead US death toll was among the worst.  World health organization warns that a future pandemic could potentially be 20 times worse than covid.

    Brix stepped down after urging families to have 2020 Thanksgiving only with immediate family and then hosting a large Thanksgiving gathering herself. Sorta like want Newsom, Whitmer, Bowser, and more did.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/democratic-politicians-who-violated-covid-19-rules-guidance-list-2020-12?op=1#washington-dc-mayor-muriel-bowser-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Pandemic crisis brings out the best or worst in world leaders.  US news reveal Trump was among the worst leaders.  His early denial, spreading of misinformation, ignoring of public health intervention and incoherent leadership harm US.  Task force coordinator Birx says most deaths could have been prevented in 2020.  Instead US death toll was among the worst.  World health organization warns that a future pandemic could potentially be 20 times worse than covid.

    Brix stepped down after urging families to have 2020 Thanksgiving only with immediate family and then hosting a large Thanksgiving gathering herself. Sorta like want Newsom, Whitmer, Bowser, and more did.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/democratic-politicians-who-violated-covid-19-rules-guidance-list-2020-12?op=1#washington-dc-mayor-muriel-bowser-2

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2024 - 12:20 PM ET #4777

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump shutdown Nordstream II, labeled Houthis terrorists, no aid for UNRWA, no assests to Iran, a controlled border, tariffs to save American steel jobs,

    Trump, Biden and Obama failed to shutdown Nord stream 2 in Germany.  Most of the pipeline was constructed during Trump's watch.  Temporary revoking of terrorist designation for Houthis allow for more humanitarian aid to Yemen.  US and allies now resume long term aid for United nations relief after investigations find only 12 out of 13,000 employees accused of supporting Hamas.  For prisoners exchange, limited release of assets to Iran is restricted to humanitarian aid.  No president has complete control over border immigration.  Trump reduced legal immigration but not illegal immigration.  He made immigration problems worse.  Problem is that Trump tariffs impose needless costs on many Americans to benefit the few.  So Biden has extended metals tariff exemption for European union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Trump shutdown Nordstream II, labeled Houthis terrorists, no aid for UNRWA, no assests to Iran, a controlled border, tariffs to save American steel jobs,

    Trump, Biden and Obama failed to shutdown Nord stream 2 in Germany.  Most of the pipeline was constructed during Trump's watch.  Temporary revoking of terrorist designation for Houthis allow for more humanitarian aid to Yemen.  US and allies now resume long term aid for United nations relief after investigations find only 12 out of 13,000 employees accused of supporting Hamas.  For prisoners exchange, limited release of assets to Iran is restricted to humanitarian aid.  No president has complete control over border immigration.  Trump reduced legal immigration but not illegal immigration.  He made immigration problems worse.  Problem is that Trump tariffs impose needless costs on many Americans to benefit the few.  So Biden has extended metals tariff exemption for European union.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2024 - 8:30 AM ET #4778

    "Temporary revoking of terrorist designation for Houthis allow for more humanitarian aid to Yemen."  

    Oh, it was only temporary. an_roll_laugh

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    "Temporary revoking of terrorist designation for Houthis allow for more humanitarian aid to Yemen."  

    Oh, it was only temporary. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2024 - 8:45 AM ET #4779

    We all watched Chris Cuomo go through his COVID infection in his basement. And then we find out he was out jogging before his fake basement emergence. 

    Now Chris has "Long COVID", that sucks.

    So what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID???

    --------IVERMECTIN-------- an_roll_laugh

    Too funny!

     

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    We all watched Chris Cuomo go through his COVID infection in his basement. And then we find out he was out jogging before his fake basement emergence. 

    Now Chris has "Long COVID", that sucks.

    So what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID???

    --------IVERMECTIN-------- an_roll_laugh

    Too funny!

     

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2024 - 10:32 AM ET #4780

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    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Posted: May. 10, 2024 - 1:38 PM ET #4781

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219

    Cuomo says vaccine damaged him.

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219

    Cuomo says vaccine damaged him.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2024 - 2:48 PM ET #4782

    an_laughCOVID now

     

    COVID when it startedan_nailbiter

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    an_laughCOVID now

     

    COVID when it startedan_nailbiter

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2024 - 2:49 AM ET #4783

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN--------

    There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN--------

    There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2024 - 10:17 PM ET #4784

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN-------- There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.

     Clinical Trials?

     

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

     

    Conculsion;

    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN-------- There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.

     Clinical Trials?

     

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/

     

    Conculsion;

    Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2024 - 2:50 AM ET #4785

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN-------- There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.  Clinical Trials?   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/   Conculsion; Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

    Yeah, Ivermectin certainly works but so does orange juice and just taking it easy for a couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: what does Chris Cuomo take for his Long COVID??? --------IVERMECTIN-------- There is no cure for long covid.  But doctors can prescribe medications for symptoms and physical therapy.  Food drug administration doesn't approved ivermectin for treating covid because of no scientific evidence that it works.  Regulators rely on data from clinical trials instead of endorsements from celebrities.  Some people can be convinced that placebos work.  Clinical Trials?   https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/   Conculsion; Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

    Yeah, Ivermectin certainly works but so does orange juice and just taking it easy for a couple of days.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2024 - 2:56 AM ET #4786

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219 Cuomo says vaccine damaged him.

    Homie didn't have side effects from the vaccine. He had side effects from taking prep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219 Cuomo says vaccine damaged him.

    Homie didn't have side effects from the vaccine. He had side effects from taking prep.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Ivermectin certainly works but so does orange juice and just taking it easy for a couple of days.

    There is still a lack of reliable evidence recommending ivermectin for covid treatment.  According to Mayo clinic, claims that ivermectin can treat covid are false.  University of Oxford study concludes ivermectin doesn't improve covid recovery, hospitalization or mortality rates.  Many people with covid recover within weeks or months without medicine.  For those at risk of serious illness.  doctors prescribe paxiovid, pengarda, remdesivir, molnupiravir and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Ivermectin certainly works but so does orange juice and just taking it easy for a couple of days.

    There is still a lack of reliable evidence recommending ivermectin for covid treatment.  According to Mayo clinic, claims that ivermectin can treat covid are false.  University of Oxford study concludes ivermectin doesn't improve covid recovery, hospitalization or mortality rates.  Many people with covid recover within weeks or months without medicine.  For those at risk of serious illness.  doctors prescribe paxiovid, pengarda, remdesivir, molnupiravir and others.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2024 - 8:09 AM ET #4788

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     Yeah, I'm not touting the drug and I am not convinced about Long COVID either. Many people cannot accept getting old and what comes with it and need to blame something.  Just made a point the drug did show promise in some studies.

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     Yeah, I'm not touting the drug and I am not convinced about Long COVID either. Many people cannot accept getting old and what comes with it and need to blame something.  Just made a point the drug did show promise in some studies.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2024 - 8:15 AM ET #4789

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219 Cuomo says vaccine damaged him. Homie didn't have side effects from the vaccine. He had side effects from taking prep.

    The vaccine has obviously damaged many people, some died within hours of the shot. Everybody is different and can have different reactions. Overall it appeared effective for the original COVID.

    Let's see if in the future big pharma uses Mrna for a shot that they have no immunity for lawsuits. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: https://twitter.com/i/status/1786880748047192219 Cuomo says vaccine damaged him. Homie didn't have side effects from the vaccine. He had side effects from taking prep.

    The vaccine has obviously damaged many people, some died within hours of the shot. Everybody is different and can have different reactions. Overall it appeared effective for the original COVID.

    Let's see if in the future big pharma uses Mrna for a shot that they have no immunity for lawsuits. an_light

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2024 - 3:48 AM ET #4790

    Center for disease control reports that covid has fallen from 3rd to 10th leading cause of death in the US during Biden administration.  If all states followed stricter mask and vaccine mandates, nearly 250,000 covid deaths could have been prevented according to study published in Journal of American medical association.  However if all states followed lenient policies of southeastern states, as many as 200,000 more people would have died.

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    Center for disease control reports that covid has fallen from 3rd to 10th leading cause of death in the US during Biden administration.  If all states followed stricter mask and vaccine mandates, nearly 250,000 covid deaths could have been prevented according to study published in Journal of American medical association.  However if all states followed lenient policies of southeastern states, as many as 200,000 more people would have died.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 10, 2024 - 8:29 PM ET #4791

    In the United States the top five strictest states with pandemic lockdowns were New York, New Jersey, California, Massachusetts, and the island of Hawaii.

    https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/08/08/new-jersey-and-new-york-were-among-the-top-five-most-restrictive-pandemic-states/

    According to WorldOMeter these five had a covid death rate by each million residents of;

    4286

    4151

    2846

    3712

    1531

    Averages to 3305 deaths per million.

    There were seven states that did not issue any "stay at home" orders. They were Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming.

    Again, according to WorldOMeter the death count per million residents were;

    4389

    3422

    2617

    3298

    3652

    1784

    3673

    Averages to 3262 deaths per million.

     

    THERE ARE WORDS AND THEN THERE ARE FACTS. an_light

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    In the United States the top five strictest states with pandemic lockdowns were New York, New Jersey, California, Massachusetts, and the island of Hawaii.

    https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/08/08/new-jersey-and-new-york-were-among-the-top-five-most-restrictive-pandemic-states/

    According to WorldOMeter these five had a covid death rate by each million residents of;

    4286

    4151

    2846

    3712

    1531

    Averages to 3305 deaths per million.

    There were seven states that did not issue any "stay at home" orders. They were Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming.

    Again, according to WorldOMeter the death count per million residents were;

    4389

    3422

    2617

    3298

    3652

    1784

    3673

    Averages to 3262 deaths per million.

     

    THERE ARE WORDS AND THEN THERE ARE FACTS. an_light

     
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    Look at what icovid did to Noah Lyles

     

    I can attest to the California lockdown...

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Look at what icovid did to Noah Lyles

     

    I can attest to the California lockdown...

     
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    CNN reports that Center for disease control is providing over $60 million to state health departments for free covid vaccines, tests and treatments for uninsured adults and children from low income families because of increasing surge in covid severity nationwide.

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    CNN reports that Center for disease control is providing over $60 million to state health departments for free covid vaccines, tests and treatments for uninsured adults and children from low income families because of increasing surge in covid severity nationwide.

     
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    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis. Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

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    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis. Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis. Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

    Major cities such as Toronto had extremely high desth rates. I think a lower death rate in Canada had more to do with population density that anything the Canadian government did, that Trump didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis. Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

    Major cities such as Toronto had extremely high desth rates. I think a lower death rate in Canada had more to do with population density that anything the Canadian government did, that Trump didn't.

     
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    @thirdperson

     According to Johns Hopkins the observed case-fatality ratio was essentially the same in Canada and USA, with both at 1.1%.  Both far ahead of Peru 4.9%, Bulgaria 2.9%, Mexico 4.5%, Brazil 1.9%, and Russia 1.8%.  But behind Sweden .9%, U.K .9%, Spain .9%, Italy .7%, Switzerland .3%.

    So, what is his point exactly?  Maybe he should have left a better plan in place like Sweden and Switzerland had.  Why did they fare so well without a playbook?

    Did Singapore .1%, Vietnam .4%, Japan .2%, or even Belarus .7% all have this magic playbook?

    What did he think was so special about his playbook?  More total lockdowns for longer?  Get old people into nursing homes quicker?  Shut kids out of school sooner?

    Why did Biden/Harris not quickly implement this playbook, instead of letting even more folks die?

    peace_5

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    @thirdperson

     According to Johns Hopkins the observed case-fatality ratio was essentially the same in Canada and USA, with both at 1.1%.  Both far ahead of Peru 4.9%, Bulgaria 2.9%, Mexico 4.5%, Brazil 1.9%, and Russia 1.8%.  But behind Sweden .9%, U.K .9%, Spain .9%, Italy .7%, Switzerland .3%.

    So, what is his point exactly?  Maybe he should have left a better plan in place like Sweden and Switzerland had.  Why did they fare so well without a playbook?

    Did Singapore .1%, Vietnam .4%, Japan .2%, or even Belarus .7% all have this magic playbook?

    What did he think was so special about his playbook?  More total lockdowns for longer?  Get old people into nursing homes quicker?  Shut kids out of school sooner?

    Why did Biden/Harris not quickly implement this playbook, instead of letting even more folks die?

    peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis.   Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

        peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Obama criticizes Trump for ignoring pandemic playbook from Obama administration. As a result, Canada covid death rate was 40% lower than in the U.S. Thousands of Americans might have survived if  not for Trump mishandling of crisis.   Bolton said that Trump was lucky to face only one crisis because he was incompetent as president.

        peace_5

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      Why did Biden/Harris not quickly implement this playbook, instead of letting even more folks die?

    Biden administration embraced Obama pandemic playbook and US covid mortality rate declined.    Science feedback reveals average of 8359 covid deaths per week under Trump and average of 3940 covid deaths per week under Biden.  US vaccination has prevented over one million covid deaths according to Commonwealth study.  Polls show more Americans approve of Biden administration handling of the pandemic.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      Why did Biden/Harris not quickly implement this playbook, instead of letting even more folks die?

    Biden administration embraced Obama pandemic playbook and US covid mortality rate declined.    Science feedback reveals average of 8359 covid deaths per week under Trump and average of 3940 covid deaths per week under Biden.  US vaccination has prevented over one million covid deaths according to Commonwealth study.  Polls show more Americans approve of Biden administration handling of the pandemic.

     

     
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     Bottomline is this: As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

    Sure, Biden had to 'manage' it for a longer period.  Sure, Biden had a rate slightly lower using CDC data of 1,298 people were dying per day on average under Trump during his pandemic presidency, and 1,139 have died per day under Biden.  But, obviously, at the beginning the weaker, older and more sickly died off first.  There were more healthier and younger left under Biden.

    So, there is nothing to indicate that Biden or his magic playbook would have handled the beginning any better.  In fact, there are indications they could have done even worse.  They had a mindset of forcing older and weak people all together with sick folks.  They were forcing people that had a respiratory issue and trouble breathing to breathe even harder though a mask that did not work and was recycling contaminated and dirty air.

    I am quite sure those parts of the playbook were disastrous and should be eliminated.  I am sure Biden would have doubled down on those and made it even worse at the beginning.

    So, very thankful he was not in charge at that time to make it worse than it was.

    peace_5

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    @thirdperson

     Bottomline is this: As of September 2024, COVID-19 was responsible for 1.2 million deaths in the U.S., with the majority of those deaths occurring during Biden’s presidency.

    Sure, Biden had to 'manage' it for a longer period.  Sure, Biden had a rate slightly lower using CDC data of 1,298 people were dying per day on average under Trump during his pandemic presidency, and 1,139 have died per day under Biden.  But, obviously, at the beginning the weaker, older and more sickly died off first.  There were more healthier and younger left under Biden.

    So, there is nothing to indicate that Biden or his magic playbook would have handled the beginning any better.  In fact, there are indications they could have done even worse.  They had a mindset of forcing older and weak people all together with sick folks.  They were forcing people that had a respiratory issue and trouble breathing to breathe even harder though a mask that did not work and was recycling contaminated and dirty air.

    I am quite sure those parts of the playbook were disastrous and should be eliminated.  I am sure Biden would have doubled down on those and made it even worse at the beginning.

    So, very thankful he was not in charge at that time to make it worse than it was.

    peace_5

     
     
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    Congress report calls Trump administration pandemic response the worst failure of any president in US history.  Public health officials of Bush, Obama and Biden administrations condemn Trump administration for failing to follow pandemic playbook.  Ebola response coordinator Ron Klain said following the step-by-step instructions would have made a big difference.  For examples, all the things that needed to be done such as taking early science based actions, testing, contact tracing, clear communication to public and collaborating with states and other countries. 

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    Congress report calls Trump administration pandemic response the worst failure of any president in US history.  Public health officials of Bush, Obama and Biden administrations condemn Trump administration for failing to follow pandemic playbook.  Ebola response coordinator Ron Klain said following the step-by-step instructions would have made a big difference.  For examples, all the things that needed to be done such as taking early science based actions, testing, contact tracing, clear communication to public and collaborating with states and other countries. 

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