Posted:
#3351
Covid-19 Good And Bad
Posted:
#3352
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world,
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world,
Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.
Good points, as usual, Thirdperson. 
Posted:
#3354
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.
good news thx to the donnie chump-vaccines
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#3355
Hospitals and doctors got paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with Covid or if it's considered presumed they have Covid absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat Covid cases.
This higher allocation of funds was made possible under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act through a Medicare 20% add-on to its regular payment for Covid patients.
Posted:
#3356
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
“Most recently, on October 4, 2021, Southwest Airlines unilaterally rolled out a new and non-negotiated COVID vaccine mandate for all employees, including SWAPA pilots. The new vaccine mandate unlawfully imposes new conditions of employment and the new policy threatens termination of any pilot not fully vaccinated by December 8, 2021,” the document read. The union asked a court on Friday to temporarily block the company’s vaccine mandate, according to court documents MSM- Southwest cancels flights due to bad weather
“Most recently, on October 4, 2021, Southwest Airlines unilaterally rolled out a new and non-negotiated COVID vaccine mandate for all employees, including SWAPA pilots. The new vaccine mandate unlawfully imposes new conditions of employment and the new policy threatens termination of any pilot not fully vaccinated by December 8, 2021,” the document read. The union asked a court on Friday to temporarily block the company’s vaccine mandate, according to court documents MSM- Southwest cancels flights due to bad weather
Posted:
#3357
“What we’re doing on the death certificate is saying that that was an underlying cause that led to their premature death. It may have actually caused somebody to have a pneumonia that actually led to their death, but they would have not gotten the pneumonia if they didn’t have COVID," Dr. Mead said.
Are they counting vaccine deaths the same way?
I doubt it.
Are there any financial incentives to treating a patient that is sick from the vaccine?
No.
Are there any financial incentives for listing the vaccine on a death certificate?
No.
Does this make the numbers inaccurate?
Yes.
Posted:
#3358
If you’re in the hospital and you have Covid it’s important for everyone to know you have Covid. From intake, to the nurses, to the Doctors, to the medical examiner, to the funeral home. Everyone that the person talks with or handles the body will be made aware that the person has/had Covid.
There is a 0% chance that having Covid will get lost in the shuffle.
If you’re in the hospital due to the vaccine it’s not important for anyone to know. You’re reporting discomfort and they’re trying to help you.
There is a very good chance that if you’re in the hospital because of the vaccine that that information will get lost in the shuffle.
Posted:
#3361
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began. good news thx to the donnie chump-vaccines
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began. good news thx to the donnie chump-vaccines
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#3362
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
“What we’re doing on the death certificate is saying that that was an underlying cause that led to their premature death. It may have actually caused somebody to have a pneumonia that actually led to their death, but they would have not gotten the pneumonia if they didn’t have COVID," Dr. Mead said. Are they counting vaccine deaths the same way? I doubt it. Are there any financial incentives to treating a patient that is sick from the vaccine? No. Are there any financial incentives for listing the vaccine on a death certificate? No. Does this make the numbers inaccurate? Yes.
“What we’re doing on the death certificate is saying that that was an underlying cause that led to their premature death. It may have actually caused somebody to have a pneumonia that actually led to their death, but they would have not gotten the pneumonia if they didn’t have COVID," Dr. Mead said. Are they counting vaccine deaths the same way? I doubt it. Are there any financial incentives to treating a patient that is sick from the vaccine? No. Are there any financial incentives for listing the vaccine on a death certificate? No. Does this make the numbers inaccurate? Yes.
Posted:
#3363
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.
Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump. In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world. Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus. Before vaccines, kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available. People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe. Instead it drives people away from what really works. Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work. No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations. Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.
Posted:
#3365
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
A tinfoil hat-wearing "flat earth" believer wrote: 661 people in Maine have died of the extremely safe vaccine within 28 days
Twitter has labelled video misleading. According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects. Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them. Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination. Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US. But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.
There is no causal link to any alarming numbers outside the norms
Posted:
#3367
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the extremely safe vaccine within 28 days
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the extremely safe vaccine within 28 days
Twitter has labelled video misleading. According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects. Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them. Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination. Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US. But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.
thank you for the fact-checking thirdperson
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#3368
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Under reporting of covid deaths confirmed by Institute of health metrics, Boston university school of public health and World health organization. In 2020, excess deaths above expected totals can only be explained by the pandemic.
Under reporting of vaccine deaths debunked by fact checking from Reuters, USA today, Full fact, politifact, Forbes and Associated press. In the US, data from vaccine adverse event reporting system is twisted by anti-vaxxers to smear vaccines. But VAERS disclaimer warns reports may be incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverified. Data does not include information from investigations and cannot be interpreted to reach conclusions about vaccines. Center for disease control has investigated thousands of deaths and found no causal link to vaccines.
Posted:
#3370
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported. By how much? Nobody knows. If you disagree with this you don’t have any common sense.
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported. By how much? Nobody knows. If you disagree with this you don’t have any common sense.
well we all know who lacks any fundamental common sense, logic, deductive reasoning and critical thinking skills around here
Time is a flat circle....
Posted:
#3371
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the extremely safe vaccine within 28 days Twitter has labelled video misleading. According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects. Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them. Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination. Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US. But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines. thank you for the fact-checking thirdperson
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the extremely safe vaccine within 28 days Twitter has labelled video misleading. According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects. Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them. Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination. Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US. But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines. thank you for the fact-checking thirdperson
Using twitter as "fact". That's pure comedy.
Posted:
#3372
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Under reporting of covid deaths confirmed by Institute of health metrics, Boston university school of public health and World health organization. In 2020, excess deaths above expected totals can only be explained by the pandemic. Under reporting of vaccine deaths debunked by fact checking from Reuters, USA today, Full fact, politifact, Forbes and Associated press. In the US, data from vaccine adverse event reporting system is twisted by anti-vaxxers to smear vaccines. But VAERS disclaimer warns reports may be incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverified. Data does not include information from investigations and cannot be interpreted to reach conclusions about vaccines. Center for disease control has investigated thousands of deaths and found no causal link to vaccines.
It is true that covid deaths have been under reported and supposed deaths by vaccines are over reported.
Posted:
#3374
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Covid deaths are over reported. Vaccine deaths are underreported.
Under reporting of covid deaths confirmed by Institute of health metrics, Boston university school of public health and World health organization. In 2020, excess deaths above expected totals can only be explained by the pandemic.
Under reporting of vaccine deaths debunked by fact checking from Reuters, USA today, Full fact, politifact, Forbes and Associated press. In the US, data from vaccine adverse event reporting system is twisted by anti-vaxxers to smear vaccines. But VAERS disclaimer warns reports may be incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental or unverified. Data does not include information from investigations and cannot be interpreted to reach conclusions about vaccines. Center for disease control has investigated thousands of deaths and found no causal link to vaccines.
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Posted:
#3375
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
In 2020, excess deaths above expected totals can only be explained by the pandemic.
In 2020, excess deaths above expected totals can only be explained by the pandemic.
Deaths from heart disease—which ranked as the leading cause of death in the United States in 2020—increased by 4.8% from 659,041 in 2019 to 690,882 in 2020, marking the largest increase in heart disease deaths since 2012. Similarly, the researchers found deaths increased by 15.4% for diabetes, 11.1% for unintentional injury, and 9.8% for Alzheimer's disease.
Please stop spreading disinformation.
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