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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2021 - 11:07 AM ET #3326

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    MarketWatch
    1 in 5 older Americans say they used up their savings or lost their main source of income
    because of the pandemic.

     

    This is absolutely horrendous but not unexpected.

    And now those in the greatest need will have to wait longer for the Post Office to deliver their checks.

    How the hell is DeJoy still in charge of the PO????

    Actually, that is a very good question.  They were purging all the anti-Democracy/pro-trump fascists earlier, so it's a wonder DeJoy is still there.

     

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    1 in 5 older Americans say they used up their savings or lost their main source of income
    because of the pandemic.

     

    This is absolutely horrendous but not unexpected.

    And now those in the greatest need will have to wait longer for the Post Office to deliver their checks.

    How the hell is DeJoy still in charge of the PO????

    Actually, that is a very good question.  They were purging all the anti-Democracy/pro-trump fascists earlier, so it's a wonder DeJoy is still there.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2021 - 3:48 PM ET #3327

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

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    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2021 - 9:14 PM ET #3328

    Nobody is getting tested ..

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    Nobody is getting tested ..

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2021 - 11:23 AM ET #3329

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

    According to PEW Research only 47% of those caught crossing the border in July were deported. NBC news reported 25% of those being sent back have tested positive in early August (because we only test them all if we send them away!!). Border crossings are at an all time high going back 20 years. Due to border patrol being totally overwhelmed thousands cross without being caught and enter and move throughout our country, along with illegal drugs. Pinal County in Arizona has had more drug overdoses last year than COVID deaths. Texas sheriff carries body bags due to largest number of dead migrants found, largest in over a decade.

    All border crossers who are caught are offered the vaccine, no problem if they say NO. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

    According to PEW Research only 47% of those caught crossing the border in July were deported. NBC news reported 25% of those being sent back have tested positive in early August (because we only test them all if we send them away!!). Border crossings are at an all time high going back 20 years. Due to border patrol being totally overwhelmed thousands cross without being caught and enter and move throughout our country, along with illegal drugs. Pinal County in Arizona has had more drug overdoses last year than COVID deaths. Texas sheriff carries body bags due to largest number of dead migrants found, largest in over a decade.

    All border crossers who are caught are offered the vaccine, no problem if they say NO. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2021 - 11:45 AM ET #3330

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates.

    Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

    All true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates.

    Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

    All true.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 9:59 AM ET #3331

    Never any evidence when you refuse to look!! Kaiser Family Foundation a San Francisco based org certainly not biased now, are they?? an_roll_laugh

    I like it when CBS asks Fauci; Do you think the Migrants are "DRIVING" the surge? Instead of saying contributing to!!!! No doubt they are. Clever choice of words as always.

    Looking at the five top vaccinated states; Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Massachusetts I see their combined 7-day average of COVID cases larger per capti than Florida right now. an_eek2 Their 7-day avg. death count higher than Florida's and these five states population is 66% of that of Florida's.

    Right now in Maine the 7-day avg has 1 in every 2200 Mainer's getting COVID per day and cases are rising!!! Florida is 1 in every 4500 per day and cases are dropping!!!

    I like the media; "In Florida COVID is running out of fuel" an_roll_laughLess than 17% of Floridians have tested positive!!! No fuel????? an_roll_laugh 

    What else can they say to save their narrative!!?? an_roll_laugh   "Running out of fuel" wouldn't that be the same as "Herd Immunity"????

     

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    Never any evidence when you refuse to look!! Kaiser Family Foundation a San Francisco based org certainly not biased now, are they?? an_roll_laugh

    I like it when CBS asks Fauci; Do you think the Migrants are "DRIVING" the surge? Instead of saying contributing to!!!! No doubt they are. Clever choice of words as always.

    Looking at the five top vaccinated states; Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Massachusetts I see their combined 7-day average of COVID cases larger per capti than Florida right now. an_eek2 Their 7-day avg. death count higher than Florida's and these five states population is 66% of that of Florida's.

    Right now in Maine the 7-day avg has 1 in every 2200 Mainer's getting COVID per day and cases are rising!!! Florida is 1 in every 4500 per day and cases are dropping!!!

    I like the media; "In Florida COVID is running out of fuel" an_roll_laughLess than 17% of Floridians have tested positive!!! No fuel????? an_roll_laugh 

    What else can they say to save their narrative!!?? an_roll_laugh   "Running out of fuel" wouldn't that be the same as "Herd Immunity"????

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 9:37 PM ET #3332

    Not Suppose To Happen: US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In Covid Cases

    "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."

    "It happens when the "vaccine" is what is making people sick. Catching on yet dumb dumbs?"

    Fauci: "With 50% of adults vaccinated, I feel fairly certain you're NOT going to see the kind of surges we've seen in the past."

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    "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."

    "It happens when the "vaccine" is what is making people sick. Catching on yet dumb dumbs?"

    Fauci: "With 50% of adults vaccinated, I feel fairly certain you're NOT going to see the kind of surges we've seen in the past."

    zerohedge.com/not-suppose-to-happen

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 9:49 PM ET #3333

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

     

    Fruit of the poisoned tree.

    donald adolf trump and his ignorant accomplices  started the fire and heaped accelerant on it.

    Everything that follows reverts back to the ORIGINAL February/March/April 2020 source that failed to put up a strong defense to defend America from the virus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

     

    Fruit of the poisoned tree.

    donald adolf trump and his ignorant accomplices  started the fire and heaped accelerant on it.

    Everything that follows reverts back to the ORIGINAL February/March/April 2020 source that failed to put up a strong defense to defend America from the virus.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2021 - 11:45 PM ET #3334

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In Covid Cases "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."  zerohedge.com

    Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US.  Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too.  Recent surges are below pandemic peaks.   Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges.  In the US,  rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low.  Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy.  Easy for virus to spread from state to state.

    On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research.  Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months.  Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable.  As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future.

    Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap:

    US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In Covid Cases "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."  zerohedge.com

    Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US.  Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too.  Recent surges are below pandemic peaks.   Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges.  In the US,  rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low.  Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy.  Easy for virus to spread from state to state.

    On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research.  Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months.  Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable.  As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future.

    Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

     
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    Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your Antibodies are Probably Better than the Vaccination’

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    Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your Antibodies are Probably Better than the Vaccination’

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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2021 - 2:00 AM ET #3336

    Sen. Graham was booed at a Republican event in South Carolina on Saturday after he encouraged attendees to consider getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-lindsey-graham-booed-republicans-004931317.html

    Insanity, sheer insanity, Sen. Graham is trying to help his supporters getting vaccinated but he got heckled big time instead.

    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19.

    When will these people learn?  

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    Sen. Graham was booed at a Republican event in South Carolina on Saturday after he encouraged attendees to consider getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-lindsey-graham-booed-republicans-004931317.html

    Insanity, sheer insanity, Sen. Graham is trying to help his supporters getting vaccinated but he got heckled big time instead.

    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19.

    When will these people learn?  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2021 - 2:20 AM ET #3337

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US. Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too. Recent surges are below pandemic peaks. Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges. In the US, rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low. Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy. Easy for virus to spread from state to state.

    On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research. Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months. Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable. As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future.

    Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

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    Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US. Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too. Recent surges are below pandemic peaks. Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges. In the US, rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low. Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy. Easy for virus to spread from state to state.

    On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research. Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months. Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable. As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future.

    Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

    zero hedge   thumbs_down

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid.

    In the US, nearly 200,000 of 700,000 covid deaths could have been prevented by vaccination according to doctor Reiner of George Washington university.  Tragically, Pediatrics journal reveals almost 140,000 children have lost either parents or grand parents because of pandemic.

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    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid.

    In the US, nearly 200,000 of 700,000 covid deaths could have been prevented by vaccination according to doctor Reiner of George Washington university.  Tragically, Pediatrics journal reveals almost 140,000 children have lost either parents or grand parents because of pandemic.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2021 - 1:09 PM ET #3339

    Hill Harris poll reveals majority of voters agree covid restrictions are effective in slowing coronavirus spread.  Mask, social distancing, hygiene, ventilation, travel restriction, gathering limit, lock down, testing, contact tracing, quarantine, mandates and vaccines.  Each layer of protection is imperfect with holes similar to swiss cheese.  But when combined together, they work to limit pandemic.

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    Hill Harris poll reveals majority of voters agree covid restrictions are effective in slowing coronavirus spread.  Mask, social distancing, hygiene, ventilation, travel restriction, gathering limit, lock down, testing, contact tracing, quarantine, mandates and vaccines.  Each layer of protection is imperfect with holes similar to swiss cheese.  But when combined together, they work to limit pandemic.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In Covid Cases "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."  zerohedge.com Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US.  Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too.  Recent surges are below pandemic peaks.   Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges.  In the US,  rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low.  Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy.  Easy for virus to spread from state to state. On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research.  Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months.  Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable.  As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future. Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

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    "Recent surges are below pandemic peaks"   

    Talking Vermont this is a FALSE statement. The HIGHEST peak during the pandemic was April 4th of this year with a 7-day average of 190 cases. Pre-vaccination peak was Jan 12th with 170 7-day avg. From Sept 16th through Sept. 29th Vermont exceeded 190 7-day avg of cases.  Source; World-O-Meter

    RECENT SURGES ECLIPSED PREVIOUS PEAKS.

    "Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges."

    Again, the subject matter here is Vermont. Your favorite term "Vast Majority" could have many definitions. Here Vermont is 69.4% fully vaxed, last two weeks 21% of cases fully vaxed, 79% unvaxed. Is that a VAST majority? To you maybe, to me it is a majority, not vast.

    The state also reported 29 new hospitalizations and 14 new deaths among vaccinated people, compared to 31 new hospitalizations and 13 new deaths among unvaccinated people. HOW ABOUT THIS? Not even close to a vast majority. 

    My source; https://vtdigger.org/2021/10/08/vermont-reports-283-new-covid-cases-and-4-deaths-updates-breakthrough-and-outbreak-stats/

    Will say it again, vaccines do help many people, they do reduce reported cases. And I say reported as it is my belief many vaccinated are asymptomatic and continue to spread the virus. No McTrap, I do not believe the vaccine is making people sick. A few, yes. 

    The very same people who cry for more mis-information to be removed from social media continue to spread the very thing. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctrap: US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In Covid Cases "Vermont, the state with the highest vaccinated rate in the US, is experiencing virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic's peak last winter. And the four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaxxed rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs."  zerohedge.com Overall in pandemic, Vermont still has among the lowest hospitalization, case count and covid death rates in the US.  Other high vaccination states have mostly done better than average too.  Recent surges are below pandemic peaks.   Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges.  In the US,  rates of vaccination and mask wearing are still too low.  Mitigation measures are relaxed to reopen economy.  Easy for virus to spread from state to state. On the positive side, worst of the pandemic might be behind us according to Scripps research.  Trends show US cases, hospitalizations and deaths increasing at diminishing rates over months.  Since vaccines are safe and effective, many deaths and hospitalizations are preventable.  As population is increasingly vaccinated, coronavirus may eventually become as manageable as influenza in the future. Media bias fact check rates "Zero hedge" as a conspiracy pseudoscience website that promotes misleading misinformation.

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    "Recent surges are below pandemic peaks"   

    Talking Vermont this is a FALSE statement. The HIGHEST peak during the pandemic was April 4th of this year with a 7-day average of 190 cases. Pre-vaccination peak was Jan 12th with 170 7-day avg. From Sept 16th through Sept. 29th Vermont exceeded 190 7-day avg of cases.  Source; World-O-Meter

    RECENT SURGES ECLIPSED PREVIOUS PEAKS.

    "Vast majority of cases, hospitalizations and deaths occur among unvaccinated population driving surges."

    Again, the subject matter here is Vermont. Your favorite term "Vast Majority" could have many definitions. Here Vermont is 69.4% fully vaxed, last two weeks 21% of cases fully vaxed, 79% unvaxed. Is that a VAST majority? To you maybe, to me it is a majority, not vast.

    The state also reported 29 new hospitalizations and 14 new deaths among vaccinated people, compared to 31 new hospitalizations and 13 new deaths among unvaccinated people. HOW ABOUT THIS? Not even close to a vast majority. 

    My source; https://vtdigger.org/2021/10/08/vermont-reports-283-new-covid-cases-and-4-deaths-updates-breakthrough-and-outbreak-stats/

    Will say it again, vaccines do help many people, they do reduce reported cases. And I say reported as it is my belief many vaccinated are asymptomatic and continue to spread the virus. No McTrap, I do not believe the vaccine is making people sick. A few, yes. 

    The very same people who cry for more mis-information to be removed from social media continue to spread the very thing. 

     
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    Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro barred from Santos vs Gremio (soccer game) due to vaccination status

    Bolsonaro is widely known for his anti-vaccination and anti-social isolation stances during the pandemic - even as Brazil has passed the 600,000 Covid deaths mark.

    https://www.goal.com/en/news/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-barred-from-santos-vs-gremio-due-/3vmjcsr6bwgaz6eugkjcf9io

    Mr. Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, unfortunately.    

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    Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro barred from Santos vs Gremio (soccer game) due to vaccination status

    Bolsonaro is widely known for his anti-vaccination and anti-social isolation stances during the pandemic - even as Brazil has passed the 600,000 Covid deaths mark.

    https://www.goal.com/en/news/brazil-president-jair-bolsonaro-barred-from-santos-vs-gremio-due-/3vmjcsr6bwgaz6eugkjcf9io

    Mr. Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, unfortunately.    

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world,

    Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump.  In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world.  Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus.  Before vaccines,  kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available.  People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe.  Instead it drives people away from what really works.  Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work.  No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations.  Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world,

    Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump.  In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world.  Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus.  Before vaccines,  kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available.  People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe.  Instead it drives people away from what really works.  Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work.  No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations.  Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.

     
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    661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days of having the poison injected into their deltoid by someone wearing a white lab coat.

    ANON UK CITIZEN: The Maine CDC director, Dr. Nirav Shah refuses to be drawn on 'deaths within 28 days of vaccination'. Has anyone even heard this on mainstream news? 661 people died within 28 days of having the jab in Maine USA. (VIDEO) - The Donald - America First! (patriots.win) 

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    661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days of having the poison injected into their deltoid by someone wearing a white lab coat.

    ANON UK CITIZEN: The Maine CDC director, Dr. Nirav Shah refuses to be drawn on 'deaths within 28 days of vaccination'. Has anyone even heard this on mainstream news? 661 people died within 28 days of having the jab in Maine USA. (VIDEO) - The Donald - America First! (patriots.win) 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump.  In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world.  Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus.  Before vaccines,  kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available.  People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe.  Instead it drives people away from what really works.  Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work.  No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations.  Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.

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    Hundreds of thousand Covid-19 deaths in this country are preventable if people believe in science not silly ideology or misinformation from major social media. Some of the people they never learn, unfortunately. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Brazil president Bolsonaro is an antivaxxer, anti-mask and anti social distancing dude. Brazil, under his governing, has become one of the worst Covid-19 pandemic countries in the world, Unfortunately, US version of Bolsonaro is Trump.  In 2020, US has the most covid cases and deaths of any country in the world.  Both men undermine public health mitigations and promote unproven remedies for coronavirus.  Before vaccines,  kits of hydroxchloroquine, vitamins and ivermectin are widely available.  People are given a false sense of security but they aren't really safe.  Instead it drives people away from what really works.  Now Brazilians are tired of all the lies and miracle cures that don't work.  No evidence ivermectin does anything to prevent covid deaths and hospitalizations.  Fortunately, deaths and hospitalizations appear to be decreasing since vaccination began.

    an_light

    Hundreds of thousand Covid-19 deaths in this country are preventable if people believe in science not silly ideology or misinformation from major social media. Some of the people they never learn, unfortunately. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    an_light

    Hundreds of thousand Covid-19 deaths in this country are preventable if people believe in science not silly ideology or misinformation from major social media. Some of the people they never learn, unfortunately. 

    extremely polarized nation now ever since 2016 

    left and center believe in science .      the donnie cump lovers on the far right either refuse or r too stupid to understand

    that creates a major problem

     

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    an_light

    Hundreds of thousand Covid-19 deaths in this country are preventable if people believe in science not silly ideology or misinformation from major social media. Some of the people they never learn, unfortunately. 

    extremely polarized nation now ever since 2016 

    left and center believe in science .      the donnie cump lovers on the far right either refuse or r too stupid to understand

    that creates a major problem

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days

    Twitter has labelled video misleading.  According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects.    Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them.  Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.

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    661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days

    Twitter has labelled video misleading.  According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects.    Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them.  Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days Twitter has labelled video misleading.  According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects.    Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them.  Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.

     

    Third, you obviously haven't been following. Hospitals will NOT mark a vaccine side effect which means they will NOT mark a death after vaccine as a vaccine cause. Even if a person is experiencing symptoms they have never experienced and it's clearly the cause of the vaccine, the hospital will not mark the visit as vaccine cause. Hospitals WILL mark someone who does not test positive for covid as having covid if they appear to be sick.

    Think about it. If hospitals started marking all the visits as related to the vaccine (which most likely are), the gov't would not be able to further push the vaccine. Wake up. Get out in the world and talk to real people. Do you honestly think the grounded flights are due to weather?  If you believe that you seriously need to turn the media off. THEY WILL LIE TO YOU CONSTANTLY.

    It's funny you believe "well, Twitter marked it as misleading". Did they do that with Biden's sons laptop as well? Twitter DOES NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. TWITTER KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE. WAKE UP.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: 661 people in Maine have died of the  extremely safe vaccine within 28 days Twitter has labelled video misleading.  According to Sun Journal, Maine hospitals haven't received any patients admitted due to vaccine side effects.    Center for disease control says reports of deaths do not necessarily mean vaccines caused them.  Statistically inevitable that people die every month for reasons unrelated to vaccination.  Over 390 million doses of covid vaccines have been administered in the US.  But a review of death certificates, autopsy and medical records have not established a causal link to vaccines.

     

    Third, you obviously haven't been following. Hospitals will NOT mark a vaccine side effect which means they will NOT mark a death after vaccine as a vaccine cause. Even if a person is experiencing symptoms they have never experienced and it's clearly the cause of the vaccine, the hospital will not mark the visit as vaccine cause. Hospitals WILL mark someone who does not test positive for covid as having covid if they appear to be sick.

    Think about it. If hospitals started marking all the visits as related to the vaccine (which most likely are), the gov't would not be able to further push the vaccine. Wake up. Get out in the world and talk to real people. Do you honestly think the grounded flights are due to weather?  If you believe that you seriously need to turn the media off. THEY WILL LIE TO YOU CONSTANTLY.

    It's funny you believe "well, Twitter marked it as misleading". Did they do that with Biden's sons laptop as well? Twitter DOES NOT KNOW THE TRUTH. TWITTER KNOWS WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE. WAKE UP.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Sen. Graham was booed at a Republican event in South Carolina on Saturday after he encouraged attendees to consider getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-lindsey-graham-booed-republicans-004931317.html

    Insanity, sheer insanity, Sen. Graham is trying to help his supporters getting vaccinated but he got heckled big time instead.

    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19.

    When will these people learn?  

     

    even chump was booed for the same thing when promoting the vaccine he takes credit for 

     

     

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    Sen. Graham was booed at a Republican event in South Carolina on Saturday after he encouraged attendees to consider getting a COVID-19 vaccine.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-lindsey-graham-booed-republicans-004931317.html

    Insanity, sheer insanity, Sen. Graham is trying to help his supporters getting vaccinated but he got heckled big time instead.

    Per CDC study, unvaccinated people are nearly 30 times more likely to be hospitalized and 11 times more likely to die from Covid-19.

    When will these people learn?  

     

    even chump was booed for the same thing when promoting the vaccine he takes credit for 

     

     

     
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    “Most recently, on October 4, 2021, Southwest Airlines unilaterally rolled out a new and non-negotiated COVID vaccine mandate for all employees, including SWAPA pilots. The new vaccine mandate unlawfully imposes new conditions of employment and the new policy threatens termination of any pilot not fully vaccinated by December 8, 2021,” the document read.

    The union asked a court on Friday to temporarily block the company’s vaccine mandate, according to court documents

     

    MSM- Southwest cancels flights due to bad weather an_roll_laugh

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    “Most recently, on October 4, 2021, Southwest Airlines unilaterally rolled out a new and non-negotiated COVID vaccine mandate for all employees, including SWAPA pilots. The new vaccine mandate unlawfully imposes new conditions of employment and the new policy threatens termination of any pilot not fully vaccinated by December 8, 2021,” the document read.

    The union asked a court on Friday to temporarily block the company’s vaccine mandate, according to court documents

     

    MSM- Southwest cancels flights due to bad weather an_roll_laugh

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

     

     

     

    Fruit of the poisoned tree.

    donald adolf trump and his ignorant accomplices  started the fire and heaped accelerant on it.

    Everything that follows reverts back to the ORIGINAL February/March/April 2020 source that failed to put up a strong defense to defend America from the virus.

    fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    No evidence that migrants are responsible for surge in covi d infections in the US according to Kaiser family foundation. Outbreaks have consistently been worse in regions with low vaccination or no mask mandates. Besides, most migrants are prevented from entering US through south border. Those who test positive are quarantined. So migrant minority is falsely blamed as scrapgoats instead of far larger population of unvaccinated Americans.

     

     

     

    Fruit of the poisoned tree.

    donald adolf trump and his ignorant accomplices  started the fire and heaped accelerant on it.

    Everything that follows reverts back to the ORIGINAL February/March/April 2020 source that failed to put up a strong defense to defend America from the virus.

    fact

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