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    DoYouMind69
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:07 AM ET #4726

    @thirdperson

     "Not enough people are up-to-date in vaccinations"   an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    "At 50, everyone has the face they deserve" -George Orwell
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     "Not enough people are up-to-date in vaccinations"   an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
    DoYouMind69
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:07 AM ET #4727

    @thirdperson

     "Not enough people are up-to-date in vaccinations"   an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    "At 50, everyone has the face they deserve" -George Orwell
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    @thirdperson

     "Not enough people are up-to-date in vaccinations"   an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

     
    BigGame90
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:18 AM ET #4728

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @thirdperson  why did you waste time bumping this thread from October.....oh wait, never mind I know...    Everyone realizes now the covid craze is over and is no different than the seasonal flu.  Get your flu shot, don't get it....whatever is just OK.  Do we create threads to talk about seasonal flu ??  No, we don't.  Same here, no reason to talk about covid any differently than flu & flu shots.    be with you 3rd.

     

    Election year. Just wait till we get closer to voting. Mask up, mail in ballots, everyone be afraid, Trump is bad, economy is great under Sleepy, AI bots all over chats pushing false info. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @thirdperson  why did you waste time bumping this thread from October.....oh wait, never mind I know...    Everyone realizes now the covid craze is over and is no different than the seasonal flu.  Get your flu shot, don't get it....whatever is just OK.  Do we create threads to talk about seasonal flu ??  No, we don't.  Same here, no reason to talk about covid any differently than flu & flu shots.    be with you 3rd.

     

    Election year. Just wait till we get closer to voting. Mask up, mail in ballots, everyone be afraid, Trump is bad, economy is great under Sleepy, AI bots all over chats pushing false info. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:25 AM ET #4729

    It’s Peace and massive tranquillity , it’s little kittie cats being hyperactive and silly , it’s stars and rainbows , and if you’re not armed with political jargon you better have a “ harp “ or “ a halo “ , say it ain’t so ,

    that nothing changes , even through hard work and the martyrs that were burned and the struggles of the ancients , hey this is it , so listen up close , if you isn’t with the mission to bring vision to what’s shut and what’s broke , then double up on the huffin’ and puffin’ cuz here comes the thunder and smoke ……

    * how come I feel like the referee in a “ Heavyweight Bout “ but the pugilists are two scrawny dudes that have no stamina and are already winded just walking up the 4 steps it takes to get into the ring ……

    I guess it’s fitting …. “ Ding , Ding …. “

     

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    It’s Peace and massive tranquillity , it’s little kittie cats being hyperactive and silly , it’s stars and rainbows , and if you’re not armed with political jargon you better have a “ harp “ or “ a halo “ , say it ain’t so ,

    that nothing changes , even through hard work and the martyrs that were burned and the struggles of the ancients , hey this is it , so listen up close , if you isn’t with the mission to bring vision to what’s shut and what’s broke , then double up on the huffin’ and puffin’ cuz here comes the thunder and smoke ……

    * how come I feel like the referee in a “ Heavyweight Bout “ but the pugilists are two scrawny dudes that have no stamina and are already winded just walking up the 4 steps it takes to get into the ring ……

    I guess it’s fitting …. “ Ding , Ding …. “

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:27 AM ET #4730

    Let's ask this question about COVID...so the last pandemic was in 1918 where people were not able to travel like they are today and medicine was not as advanced as it is today...it took 2 years for that pandemic to settle...fast forward to COVID and 2020...2019 if you want to start with the beginning signs of COVID, but essentially 2020 when it was called a pandemic....how many years did it take for COVID to settle down...2 years...so ,you are telling me with the advancement of the ability to travel and medicine advancements from 1918 to today's times the world, which is way more accessible than it was in 1918, we were able to stop it in the same amount of time as it was back in 1918 when the world was less traveled...c'mon think about it...no way...

    I've had time to reflect back on this pandemic from being right in the middle of it running a business that employs thousands of employees with various different organizations and I have to tell you, it felt like we were all guinea pigs in a testing laboratory...it almost felt like this was a trial run to get a blueprint of what may come down the road...needless to say the world was not prepared so it definitely exposed everyone....is it so impossible to think that there are too many people living on this planet and since it is being destroyed by humans (you green people) that there is not some cataclysmic way to purge the world down in size without committing genocide to alleviate some of the issues taking place...I mean, less people is better if someone has ran the numbers and realized that the planet is not working at its optimal performance measure and therefore some have to go...

    It's deep thoughts with Jack Handy for sure....

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    Let's ask this question about COVID...so the last pandemic was in 1918 where people were not able to travel like they are today and medicine was not as advanced as it is today...it took 2 years for that pandemic to settle...fast forward to COVID and 2020...2019 if you want to start with the beginning signs of COVID, but essentially 2020 when it was called a pandemic....how many years did it take for COVID to settle down...2 years...so ,you are telling me with the advancement of the ability to travel and medicine advancements from 1918 to today's times the world, which is way more accessible than it was in 1918, we were able to stop it in the same amount of time as it was back in 1918 when the world was less traveled...c'mon think about it...no way...

    I've had time to reflect back on this pandemic from being right in the middle of it running a business that employs thousands of employees with various different organizations and I have to tell you, it felt like we were all guinea pigs in a testing laboratory...it almost felt like this was a trial run to get a blueprint of what may come down the road...needless to say the world was not prepared so it definitely exposed everyone....is it so impossible to think that there are too many people living on this planet and since it is being destroyed by humans (you green people) that there is not some cataclysmic way to purge the world down in size without committing genocide to alleviate some of the issues taking place...I mean, less people is better if someone has ran the numbers and realized that the planet is not working at its optimal performance measure and therefore some have to go...

    It's deep thoughts with Jack Handy for sure....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:27 AM ET #4731

    @BigGame90

     win

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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     win

     
    DoYouMind69
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:28 AM ET #4732

    What happened with all the discarded face diapers? I DON'T RECALL EVER SEEING ANY BIOHAZARD WASTE BINS IN THE PUBLIC   an_clap   an_2drinks

    "At 50, everyone has the face they deserve" -George Orwell
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    What happened with all the discarded face diapers? I DON'T RECALL EVER SEEING ANY BIOHAZARD WASTE BINS IN THE PUBLIC   an_clap   an_2drinks

     
    DoYouMind69
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 11:29 AM ET #4733

    @DoYouMind69

     Oh snap, a drop the mic moment.........................................win

    "At 50, everyone has the face they deserve" -George Orwell
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    @DoYouMind69

     Oh snap, a drop the mic moment.........................................win

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 12:35 PM ET #4734

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Hospitals fudge numbers  and get "compensated".. meaning... more covid cases.. more money..

    It was not just for the compensation.  

    They were doing it in an attempt to overcome 'vaccine hesitancy' as well.  They even have doctors that have admitted this themselves.

    Then when they were tasked to reclassify these to remedy the overcounting and just count the ones with a direct cause of having it, they found even some gunshot victims were counted among them.  So, the obvious contention is that there had to be more overcounts in the mix if you are going to count gunshot victims, because it would be so much easier to overcount someone that happened to have it but also many underlying issues as well.

    Even one of the reviews in the more liberal counties in CA of Alameda and Santa Clara showed this when they were forced to reclassify some, etc.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Hospitals fudge numbers  and get "compensated".. meaning... more covid cases.. more money..

    It was not just for the compensation.  

    They were doing it in an attempt to overcome 'vaccine hesitancy' as well.  They even have doctors that have admitted this themselves.

    Then when they were tasked to reclassify these to remedy the overcounting and just count the ones with a direct cause of having it, they found even some gunshot victims were counted among them.  So, the obvious contention is that there had to be more overcounts in the mix if you are going to count gunshot victims, because it would be so much easier to overcount someone that happened to have it but also many underlying issues as well.

    Even one of the reviews in the more liberal counties in CA of Alameda and Santa Clara showed this when they were forced to reclassify some, etc.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 1:10 PM ET #4735

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     Excellent points....the numbers for COVID were always fabricated...another example would be the test results...if one went to a testing facility and tested positive and then retested a couple days later and was positive and then retested on day 5 and was positive that counted as 3 positive cases instead of 1...tell me how those numbers are relevant...the agenda was never to publish actual data but instead to fluff the numbers...whether that was the plan all along or by sure dumb luck it worked...we were never given true statistics and it was always set up to be greater than it actual was statistically...

    Was there a greater agenda or are we that incompetent as a people....surely people recognized this...

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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     Excellent points....the numbers for COVID were always fabricated...another example would be the test results...if one went to a testing facility and tested positive and then retested a couple days later and was positive and then retested on day 5 and was positive that counted as 3 positive cases instead of 1...tell me how those numbers are relevant...the agenda was never to publish actual data but instead to fluff the numbers...whether that was the plan all along or by sure dumb luck it worked...we were never given true statistics and it was always set up to be greater than it actual was statistically...

    Was there a greater agenda or are we that incompetent as a people....surely people recognized this...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 1:11 PM ET #4736

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     For sure the testing was very questionable.

    peace_5

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     For sure the testing was very questionable.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:06 PM ET #4737

    I am sitting in stunned silence in front of my laptop as I type this post. The very safe and the very effective vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! A couple of weeks ago a good, joe biden voting friend of mind along with his wife caught covid. He told me that he was glad that him and his wife allowed all of the covid 'kill' shots into their body! Why did they feel this way?  Because the covid was not as bad as it would have been if they refused the vaccines! I ended this conversation of misinformation by telling him that I have never caught covid because I use vitamins c and d with zinc and quercetin. 

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    I am sitting in stunned silence in front of my laptop as I type this post. The very safe and the very effective vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! A couple of weeks ago a good, joe biden voting friend of mind along with his wife caught covid. He told me that he was glad that him and his wife allowed all of the covid 'kill' shots into their body! Why did they feel this way?  Because the covid was not as bad as it would have been if they refused the vaccines! I ended this conversation of misinformation by telling him that I have never caught covid because I use vitamins c and d with zinc and quercetin. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:21 PM ET #4738

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    Right, and the concept of one stating that they are glad the got the vaccine because it lessened their symptoms really have no proof of that concept...it's just the drivel that the masses were told...you would have to have had COVID without the vaccine and then had it with the vaccine to see if that statement were actually true...and from what we know about illnesses like the flu, once you have had it your body builds an immunity to it so having it the second time should have a lesser impact on you...that's just common sense and what we have always been taught...

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    @sundance

    Right, and the concept of one stating that they are glad the got the vaccine because it lessened their symptoms really have no proof of that concept...it's just the drivel that the masses were told...you would have to have had COVID without the vaccine and then had it with the vaccine to see if that statement were actually true...and from what we know about illnesses like the flu, once you have had it your body builds an immunity to it so having it the second time should have a lesser impact on you...that's just common sense and what we have always been taught...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:31 PM ET #4739

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    @sundance Right, and the concept of one stating that they are glad the got the vaccine because it lessened their symptoms really have no proof of that concept...it's just the drivel that the masses were told...you would have to have had COVID without the vaccine and then had it with the vaccine to see if that statement were actually true...and from what we know about illnesses like the flu, once you have had it your body builds an immunity to it so having it the second time should have a lesser impact on you...that's just common sense and what we have always been taught...

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    @sundance Right, and the concept of one stating that they are glad the got the vaccine because it lessened their symptoms really have no proof of that concept...it's just the drivel that the masses were told...you would have to have had COVID without the vaccine and then had it with the vaccine to see if that statement were actually true...and from what we know about illnesses like the flu, once you have had it your body builds an immunity to it so having it the second time should have a lesser impact on you...that's just common sense and what we have always been taught...

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:44 PM ET #4740

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet!

    Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet!

    Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:52 PM ET #4741

    @thirdperson

     Right, because there is not enough data to support either cause or effect...just like with most COVID related statistics....you can inflate or deflate statistics depending on how you want to slant your viewpoint or fail to realize the flaws in how the data was actually obtained...push the agenda you want but understand how that data was derived and realized that there was way more inflation going on than there was deflation...then ask yourself why that was/is...

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    @thirdperson

     Right, because there is not enough data to support either cause or effect...just like with most COVID related statistics....you can inflate or deflate statistics depending on how you want to slant your viewpoint or fail to realize the flaws in how the data was actually obtained...push the agenda you want but understand how that data was derived and realized that there was way more inflation going on than there was deflation...then ask yourself why that was/is...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 3:04 PM ET #4742

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

     

    Precisely!   Flawed analysis. peace_5

    Meanwhile plenty of legitimate studies have shown how "the trump vaccine" - which he counts among his achievements - did intervene to reduce deaths and hospitalizations against the original strain of COVID19 (Wuhan strain) and the subsequent DELTA strain and to a lesser degree the OMICRON strain.   Obviously we would expect any single vaccine to wane in effect as the virus mutates over time.  It's time for a new vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

     

    Precisely!   Flawed analysis. peace_5

    Meanwhile plenty of legitimate studies have shown how "the trump vaccine" - which he counts among his achievements - did intervene to reduce deaths and hospitalizations against the original strain of COVID19 (Wuhan strain) and the subsequent DELTA strain and to a lesser degree the OMICRON strain.   Obviously we would expect any single vaccine to wane in effect as the virus mutates over time.  It's time for a new vaccine.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 3:08 PM ET #4743

    Raiders..Book..peace_5... former director Redfield admitted it...

    Fauci admitted 6ft social distancing just "appeared ".. no science behind it.

    Yet we are the crazy ones...

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    Raiders..Book..peace_5... former director Redfield admitted it...

    Fauci admitted 6ft social distancing just "appeared ".. no science behind it.

    Yet we are the crazy ones...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 6:05 PM ET #4744

    Another shocking development from studies of the vaccine. Sperm cells in men are being replaced by spike protein! How valuable will sperm be from men who have not been vaccinated?

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    Another shocking development from studies of the vaccine. Sperm cells in men are being replaced by spike protein! How valuable will sperm be from men who have not been vaccinated?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 6:15 PM ET #4745

    I can tell you I sometimes refuse to speak to people who's sperm should have been swallowed instead of depositedpeace_5

    COVERS allows u to tell someone they are sexually frustrated so long as ur hands are clean
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    I can tell you I sometimes refuse to speak to people who's sperm should have been swallowed instead of depositedpeace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 6:25 PM ET #4746

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    I can tell you I sometimes refuse to speak to people who's sperm should have been swallowed instead of deposited

    Some of those characters might just be inside the Politics forum inside Covers!

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    I can tell you I sometimes refuse to speak to people who's sperm should have been swallowed instead of deposited

    Some of those characters might just be inside the Politics forum inside Covers!

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 6:56 PM ET #4747

    Contraceptives do break under extreme friction or when the circumference exceeds maximum threshold dimensions...could also be a byproduct of the aforementioned vernacity polarization  peace_5

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    Contraceptives do break under extreme friction or when the circumference exceeds maximum threshold dimensions...could also be a byproduct of the aforementioned vernacity polarization  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 10:13 PM ET #4748

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    @Raiders22    Excellent points....the numbers for COVID were always fabricated...another example would be the test results...if one went to a testing facility and tested positive and then retested a couple days later and was positive and then retested on day 5 and was positive that counted as 3 positive cases instead of 1...tell me how those numbers are relevant...the agenda was never to publish actual data but instead to fluff the numbers...whether that was the plan all along or by sure dumb luck it worked...we were never given true statistics and it was always set up to be greater than it actual was statistically... Was there a greater agenda or are we that incompetent as a people....surely people recognized this...

    How many people were going to testing facilities 3 times in 5 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    @Raiders22    Excellent points....the numbers for COVID were always fabricated...another example would be the test results...if one went to a testing facility and tested positive and then retested a couple days later and was positive and then retested on day 5 and was positive that counted as 3 positive cases instead of 1...tell me how those numbers are relevant...the agenda was never to publish actual data but instead to fluff the numbers...whether that was the plan all along or by sure dumb luck it worked...we were never given true statistics and it was always set up to be greater than it actual was statistically... Was there a greater agenda or are we that incompetent as a people....surely people recognized this...

    How many people were going to testing facilities 3 times in 5 days?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2024 - 10:24 PM ET #4749

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.   Precisely!   Flawed analysis. Meanwhile plenty of legitimate studies have shown how "the trump vaccine" - which he counts among his achievements - did intervene to reduce deaths and hospitalizations against the original strain of COVID19 (Wuhan strain) and the subsequent DELTA strain and to a lesser degree the OMICRON strain.   Obviously we would expect any single vaccine to wane in effect as the virus mutates over time.  It's time for a new vaccine.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet! Health feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.   Precisely!   Flawed analysis. Meanwhile plenty of legitimate studies have shown how "the trump vaccine" - which he counts among his achievements - did intervene to reduce deaths and hospitalizations against the original strain of COVID19 (Wuhan strain) and the subsequent DELTA strain and to a lesser degree the OMICRON strain.   Obviously we would expect any single vaccine to wane in effect as the virus mutates over time.  It's time for a new vaccine.

    peace_5

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2024 - 10:09 PM ET #4750

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet!

    Health Feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

    an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: vaccine killed an estimated 17M people across the planet!

    Health Feedback debunks Rancourt flawed analysis claiming to find covid vaccines killed 17 million people.  Correlation analysis alone cannot show a causal link.  It neglects covid mortality surges and the fact covid caused the pandemic.  Published medical studies haven't shown that vaccinated people are more likely to experience higher mortality compared to unvaccinated people.

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