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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 11:49 AM ET #601

    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC. 

    Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate? 

    Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices. 

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    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC. 

    Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate? 

    Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices. 

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 12:46 PM ET #602

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC.  Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate?  Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices.

    I'm sure too, except not sarcastically. So what is it, Tox? All a comspiracy to make Trump look bad? Or a conspiracy to rob us of our civil liberties? A conspiracy that Italy, France, ect. is in on? And that's the reason Brazil's numbers aren't higher, even though they are sharply increasing over the past few weeks? Not because of the lack of internationsl travel, specifically from China and esrly hotspots in Europe? Not because they were behind the curve enough to take early mitigation efforts? Things as simple as washing ones hands. Also, if Brazil's numbers continue on their sharp increase, will you flip flop and make them a part of the global conspiracy of countries with high case numbers? I mean, you're kind of contradicting yourself. In one post it's "Hey, our numbere are better than the UK's" as if to say, "Our numbers aren't that bad." Then in the next, "Our numbers are fake. Hospitals are cooking the books." You're making a mockery of people's deaths. And maybe you don't know people who have died from covid, I would imagine you're in Nebraska or something, but I do. So what exactly are you getting at? Is the conspiracy about hospitals and money?.About robbing us of our civil liberties? Or about making Trump look bad? I just don't get your angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC.  Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate?  Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices.

    I'm sure too, except not sarcastically. So what is it, Tox? All a comspiracy to make Trump look bad? Or a conspiracy to rob us of our civil liberties? A conspiracy that Italy, France, ect. is in on? And that's the reason Brazil's numbers aren't higher, even though they are sharply increasing over the past few weeks? Not because of the lack of internationsl travel, specifically from China and esrly hotspots in Europe? Not because they were behind the curve enough to take early mitigation efforts? Things as simple as washing ones hands. Also, if Brazil's numbers continue on their sharp increase, will you flip flop and make them a part of the global conspiracy of countries with high case numbers? I mean, you're kind of contradicting yourself. In one post it's "Hey, our numbere are better than the UK's" as if to say, "Our numbers aren't that bad." Then in the next, "Our numbers are fake. Hospitals are cooking the books." You're making a mockery of people's deaths. And maybe you don't know people who have died from covid, I would imagine you're in Nebraska or something, but I do. So what exactly are you getting at? Is the conspiracy about hospitals and money?.About robbing us of our civil liberties? Or about making Trump look bad? I just don't get your angle.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 12:49 PM ET #603

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC.  Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate?  Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices.

    Tox, you really do need a detox? You're off your rocker, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    They have thousands of cases and they have cities that are more densely populated than NYC.  Why isn’t it spreading at the same rate?  Im sure it has nothing to do with fake accounting practices.

    Tox, you really do need a detox? You're off your rocker, bro.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 1:26 PM ET #604

    All of the countries hardest hit are in the top 20 of total wealth. 

    True or false? 

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    All of the countries hardest hit are in the top 20 of total wealth. 

    True or false? 

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 2:03 PM ET #605

    This covid1984 thread is mostly  populated with all the wanta-be-good-nazis types who enjoy goose-stepping robotically into the dystopian future their masters have programmed for them. Just remember, Nazi Germany could not have existed without the brainwashed enablers who easily succumbed and we're controlled by propaganda techniques.

    Just trying to use some tough love because you all just assume that everything will be coming back to normal. Knowledge of sports doesn't = knowledge of anything else.

    Those who try to marginalize the truth that is coming out, because it threatens the toxic mind polluting propaganda that's been dumped into their open garbage container minds, are just following the garbage in - garbage out software that operates inside their mind-hacked brains. That's just the reality of the technocracy that now controls the world.

    For all you biological robots of the tyranny state, you will soon have some new best friend's:

    Activistpost.com/2020/05/Metalhead           Metalhead DARPA Robot enlisted by police to enforce social distancing.

    Relax. I'm unvaxxed!
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    This covid1984 thread is mostly  populated with all the wanta-be-good-nazis types who enjoy goose-stepping robotically into the dystopian future their masters have programmed for them. Just remember, Nazi Germany could not have existed without the brainwashed enablers who easily succumbed and we're controlled by propaganda techniques.

    Just trying to use some tough love because you all just assume that everything will be coming back to normal. Knowledge of sports doesn't = knowledge of anything else.

    Those who try to marginalize the truth that is coming out, because it threatens the toxic mind polluting propaganda that's been dumped into their open garbage container minds, are just following the garbage in - garbage out software that operates inside their mind-hacked brains. That's just the reality of the technocracy that now controls the world.

    For all you biological robots of the tyranny state, you will soon have some new best friend's:

    Activistpost.com/2020/05/Metalhead           Metalhead DARPA Robot enlisted by police to enforce social distancing.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 3:49 PM ET #606

    Prime Minister Benjamin Nit Wit Yahoo suggests microchipping kids who return to schools and kindergarteners as the coronavirus lockdown is lifted.

    m.jpost.com/Israel-news/microchip

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    Prime Minister Benjamin Nit Wit Yahoo suggests microchipping kids who return to schools and kindergarteners as the coronavirus lockdown is lifted.

    m.jpost.com/Israel-news/microchip

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 5:04 PM ET #607

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    All of the countries hardest hit are in the top 20 of total wealth.  True or false?

    The chinese don't tend to travel to poor, 3rd world countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    All of the countries hardest hit are in the top 20 of total wealth.  True or false?

    The chinese don't tend to travel to poor, 3rd world countries.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 5:16 PM ET #608

    Wew good thing Trump banned Chinese travel before any other world leader

     

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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 8:39 PM ET #609

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wew good thing Trump banned Chinese travel before any other world leader

    Amen to that, brother. And regardless of how many times midnight says it was useless, I for one am very thankful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Wew good thing Trump banned Chinese travel before any other world leader

    Amen to that, brother. And regardless of how many times midnight says it was useless, I for one am very thankful.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 10:06 PM ET #610

    Nuzzo, the senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said there’s no evidence, at least, that the travel restrictions have saved lives or reduced the number of cases in the U.S.

    “We have not seen any evidence that shows the travel restrictions stopped or slowed down transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19,” Nuzzo told us via email. “It is possible that it did, but there is no evidence to show this. Rather there are a number of reasons to believe that this may very well not be the case.”

    Prior to the US travel restrictions, China began suspending outbound flights,” Nuzzo said. “Airlines also began canceling flights due to low travel volume. Then, the US implemented travel restrictions, which further reduced travel from China. The exception was Americans who were returning home from China. These folks were subject to quarantine upon return. A number of cases were found among these individuals. If you only test travelers from China and you greatly reduce the number of travelers coming from China, then you would be likely to not find many cases.

    “But it doesn’t mean the virus hadn’t entered the US prior to travel restrictions,” Nuzzo said, as data now suggests occurred in Washington state.

    The authors concluded that travel restrictions introduced by the Chinese government in Wuhan in Jan. 23  and the halting of airline flights to and from China starting in early February at first slowed the spread of the disease to the rest of the world. Even still, a large number of individuals exposed to the virus had been traveling internationally without being detected and, the authors note, the number of imported cases around the world went up in a matter of weeks.

    There is also data a available that reveals that although this virus originated in China, international travelers from Europe bought it to NYC.

     BTW Stu .. Useless is your word not mine. I never said it was useless and it's impossible to determine how many if any lives were saved because the virus was already in the country when Trump initiated the travel restrictions. That's a fact! 

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    Nuzzo, the senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said there’s no evidence, at least, that the travel restrictions have saved lives or reduced the number of cases in the U.S.

    “We have not seen any evidence that shows the travel restrictions stopped or slowed down transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19,” Nuzzo told us via email. “It is possible that it did, but there is no evidence to show this. Rather there are a number of reasons to believe that this may very well not be the case.”

    Prior to the US travel restrictions, China began suspending outbound flights,” Nuzzo said. “Airlines also began canceling flights due to low travel volume. Then, the US implemented travel restrictions, which further reduced travel from China. The exception was Americans who were returning home from China. These folks were subject to quarantine upon return. A number of cases were found among these individuals. If you only test travelers from China and you greatly reduce the number of travelers coming from China, then you would be likely to not find many cases.

    “But it doesn’t mean the virus hadn’t entered the US prior to travel restrictions,” Nuzzo said, as data now suggests occurred in Washington state.

    The authors concluded that travel restrictions introduced by the Chinese government in Wuhan in Jan. 23  and the halting of airline flights to and from China starting in early February at first slowed the spread of the disease to the rest of the world. Even still, a large number of individuals exposed to the virus had been traveling internationally without being detected and, the authors note, the number of imported cases around the world went up in a matter of weeks.

    There is also data a available that reveals that although this virus originated in China, international travelers from Europe bought it to NYC.

     BTW Stu .. Useless is your word not mine. I never said it was useless and it's impossible to determine how many if any lives were saved because the virus was already in the country when Trump initiated the travel restrictions. That's a fact! 

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 10:42 PM ET #611

    Alabama just topped 10,000 cases today which is the same day Governor Ivey opened up the state.

    It took just 59 days of testing to reach the 10k number.

     

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    Alabama just topped 10,000 cases today which is the same day Governor Ivey opened up the state.

    It took just 59 days of testing to reach the 10k number.

     

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2020 - 11:19 PM ET #612

    Fair enough, midnight. It has definitely been here since last year. Even my own nephew had his senior football season cut short by a mysterious virus that caused severe fever, night sweats, body aches, and labored breathing. Doctors didn't know what it was, just that it wasn't the flu, and he recovered without hospitalization.

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    Fair enough, midnight. It has definitely been here since last year. Even my own nephew had his senior football season cut short by a mysterious virus that caused severe fever, night sweats, body aches, and labored breathing. Doctors didn't know what it was, just that it wasn't the flu, and he recovered without hospitalization.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Fair enough, midnight. It has definitely been here since last year. Even my own nephew had his senior football season cut short by a mysterious virus that caused severe fever, night sweats, body aches, and labored breathing. Doctors didn't know what it was, just that it wasn't the flu, and he recovered without hospitalization.

    Didn't pass it on to his parents, and as far as I know, nor did he to his teammates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Fair enough, midnight. It has definitely been here since last year. Even my own nephew had his senior football season cut short by a mysterious virus that caused severe fever, night sweats, body aches, and labored breathing. Doctors didn't know what it was, just that it wasn't the flu, and he recovered without hospitalization.

    Didn't pass it on to his parents, and as far as I know, nor did he to his teammates.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Alabama just topped 10,000 cases today which is the same day Governor Ivey opened up the state. It took just 59 days of testing to reach the 10k number.

    Plenty of video tapes have showed people who are protesting to reopen in many places but not wearing face masks and crowds shoulder to shoulder. God forbid, another Covid-19 spike in a few weeks is very worrisome.   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Alabama just topped 10,000 cases today which is the same day Governor Ivey opened up the state. It took just 59 days of testing to reach the 10k number.

    Plenty of video tapes have showed people who are protesting to reopen in many places but not wearing face masks and crowds shoulder to shoulder. God forbid, another Covid-19 spike in a few weeks is very worrisome.   

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 5:23 AM ET #615

    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019? 

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    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?
    In 2018 there was NO coronavirus, and very little of it IN DECEMBER of 2019, so what the heck are you trying to contend now? You 0 data as a basis of comparison. If you want to do work that shoddy, then how many coronavirus deaths can be compared from 1/1/19 to 5/12/19 as opposed to 1/1/20 to 5/12/20? That would come out 0, nada, versus 81,491. And that is just the U.S.A. World-wide it is 0 versus 286,000. As I have said before, you need a heck of lot more than a detox. 

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    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?
    In 2018 there was NO coronavirus, and very little of it IN DECEMBER of 2019, so what the heck are you trying to contend now? You 0 data as a basis of comparison. If you want to do work that shoddy, then how many coronavirus deaths can be compared from 1/1/19 to 5/12/19 as opposed to 1/1/20 to 5/12/20? That would come out 0, nada, versus 81,491. And that is just the U.S.A. World-wide it is 0 versus 286,000. As I have said before, you need a heck of lot more than a detox. 

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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 9:47 AM ET #617

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?

    Probably because of two reasons. 1. Sheltering in place. Less murders, car accidents, ect. 2. People dying of covid-19 with pre-existing conditions, i.e cancers, ect. Doesn't mean that their deaths being attributed to corona are false. Just that they would have died of something anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?

    Probably because of two reasons. 1. Sheltering in place. Less murders, car accidents, ect. 2. People dying of covid-19 with pre-existing conditions, i.e cancers, ect. Doesn't mean that their deaths being attributed to corona are false. Just that they would have died of something anyway.

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 12:28 PM ET #618

    Many people who's deaths were attributed to Conid-19 were comorbid.. probability over 1/3rd.. Just in New York state, over 86% of reported COVID-19 deaths involved at least one comorbidity..

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    Many people who's deaths were attributed to Conid-19 were comorbid.. probability over 1/3rd.. Just in New York state, over 86% of reported COVID-19 deaths involved at least one comorbidity..

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 12:53 PM ET #619

    It probably balances out Slim; there are thousands to be factored in that were not counted as coronavirus cases because they were either turned away from hospitals and clinics without a diagnosis and/or simply died at home with "the flu". That number is also impossible to determine, but most experts will guesstimate it was in the thousands. 

    I guess if you want to just figure "they would have died of something anyway" then we can apply that to the whole human race and just ignore the pandemic altogether.

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    It probably balances out Slim; there are thousands to be factored in that were not counted as coronavirus cases because they were either turned away from hospitals and clinics without a diagnosis and/or simply died at home with "the flu". That number is also impossible to determine, but most experts will guesstimate it was in the thousands. 

    I guess if you want to just figure "they would have died of something anyway" then we can apply that to the whole human race and just ignore the pandemic altogether.

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 1:20 PM ET #620

    Not to mention about 34-35 % of the reported virus deaths have been residents of nursing homes. Crazy number!

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    Not to mention about 34-35 % of the reported virus deaths have been residents of nursing homes. Crazy number!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Not to mention about 34-35 % of the reported virus deaths have been residents of nursing homes. Crazy number!
    I thought Trumpsters already agreed on that. They are eating up nursing home beds, S.S. and Medicare. Let them die. (And you didn't think euthanasia would follow abortion?) 

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    Not to mention about 34-35 % of the reported virus deaths have been residents of nursing homes. Crazy number!
    I thought Trumpsters already agreed on that. They are eating up nursing home beds, S.S. and Medicare. Let them die. (And you didn't think euthanasia would follow abortion?) 

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 2:10 PM ET #622

    The following did not happen during the Senate hearing.

    Dr Fauci:  Our country is in a deadly struggle like no other in our history. While the US government tries to destroy the virus we need help from each American.

    Here is what you can do to help yourself build up your immunity. Take 1000-2000 mg of vitamin c, 15-30  mg of zinc and 500mg of elderberry.

    We will help anybody acquire these essential vitamins and minerals if you can not afford them.

    There is never any mention of prevention. Only what we might be able to do if you contract the virus.

    Also. The very expensive drug remdesivir seems to be the drug of choice over the very successful, cheap drug called hydroxychloroquine.

    They are not on your side. Absolutely nothing wrong with building up one's immunity to protect you and your family from contracting the  killer virus.

    It is all about lining the pockets of Big Pharma and injecting poison into the body of every American.

     

     

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    The following did not happen during the Senate hearing.

    Dr Fauci:  Our country is in a deadly struggle like no other in our history. While the US government tries to destroy the virus we need help from each American.

    Here is what you can do to help yourself build up your immunity. Take 1000-2000 mg of vitamin c, 15-30  mg of zinc and 500mg of elderberry.

    We will help anybody acquire these essential vitamins and minerals if you can not afford them.

    There is never any mention of prevention. Only what we might be able to do if you contract the virus.

    Also. The very expensive drug remdesivir seems to be the drug of choice over the very successful, cheap drug called hydroxychloroquine.

    They are not on your side. Absolutely nothing wrong with building up one's immunity to protect you and your family from contracting the  killer virus.

    It is all about lining the pockets of Big Pharma and injecting poison into the body of every American.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?In 2018 there was NO coronavirus, and very little of it IN DECEMBER of 2019, so what the heck are you trying to contend now? You 0 data as a basis of comparison. If you want to do work that shoddy, then how many coronavirus deaths can be compared from 1/1/19 to 5/12/19 as opposed to 1/1/20 to 5/12/20? That would come out 0, nada, versus 81,491. And that is just the U.S.A. World-wide it is 0 versus 286,000. As I have said before, you need a heck of lot more than a detox.

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    No offense but someone like you should be asking questions, not offering opinions. You’re embarrassing yourself. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Deaths in the US are down compared to 2018, 2019?In 2018 there was NO coronavirus, and very little of it IN DECEMBER of 2019, so what the heck are you trying to contend now? You 0 data as a basis of comparison. If you want to do work that shoddy, then how many coronavirus deaths can be compared from 1/1/19 to 5/12/19 as opposed to 1/1/20 to 5/12/20? That would come out 0, nada, versus 81,491. And that is just the U.S.A. World-wide it is 0 versus 286,000. As I have said before, you need a heck of lot more than a detox.

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    No offense but someone like you should be asking questions, not offering opinions. You’re embarrassing yourself. 

     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 6:37 PM ET #624

    There's a pub I love in the neighborhood. Every Thursday I'd sit at the bar, have some wings or a Philly cheese steak while capping the Saturday ponies. The place hasn't been open during the virus & as much as I love the place, the owners and having fun with other patrons, there's no way I'm going to frequent the place again until I am absolutely ready. I'll get take out food when they reopen but I won't be parking my butt for a couple of hours liked I did in the past until a vaccine is available.

    We know so little about covid and no way am I jumping the gun on this. I'm going to be safe rather than sorry. 

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    There's a pub I love in the neighborhood. Every Thursday I'd sit at the bar, have some wings or a Philly cheese steak while capping the Saturday ponies. The place hasn't been open during the virus & as much as I love the place, the owners and having fun with other patrons, there's no way I'm going to frequent the place again until I am absolutely ready. I'll get take out food when they reopen but I won't be parking my butt for a couple of hours liked I did in the past until a vaccine is available.

    We know so little about covid and no way am I jumping the gun on this. I'm going to be safe rather than sorry. 

     
     
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    Posted: May. 12, 2020 - 7:12 PM ET #625

    The City of Angels will likely keep their dystopian lock down going till August.

    The  statistics  making their decision is 1569 deaths out of 10M people. This comes to .00015 of 1%! 

    I dont understand how you tell 10M people with those statistics  to stay in their home till we tell you it is ok to come out and play!

    Do Americans calculate the numbers?

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    The City of Angels will likely keep their dystopian lock down going till August.

    The  statistics  making their decision is 1569 deaths out of 10M people. This comes to .00015 of 1%! 

    I dont understand how you tell 10M people with those statistics  to stay in their home till we tell you it is ok to come out and play!

    Do Americans calculate the numbers?

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