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    DeezyAZ81
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:13 PM ET #1401

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Here's how the left would handle the virus attacks...25 days after President Trump's decision to halt flights to and from China (with the exclusion of American ex-patriots) Pelosi was walked around Chinatown in San Francisco after Coronavirus cases had already been confirmed in the US encouraging people to shop and eat in Chinatown. We do want to say to people, come to Chinatown. Here we are…and come join us,” Pelosi said. Fears of the Coronavirus are “unwarranted in light of the precautions that are being taken here in the United States.” Nancy you and Joe are at the same aged mental stage ..

    Was saying Coronavirus cases were at 15 and soon be down to zero in March a better strategy? Was downplaying the severity of covid and avoiding a mask mandate for 4 months a good strategy? Was saying anyone that wants a test can get one in March when they weren't even readily available a solid strategy? 

    Like you said Trump halting flights from China did not do anything because Americans working or conducting business in China were still permitted to come back. So what did that actually achieve? So you just admitted that all Trump really did was put a meaningless flight ban from China in place and that was it? I think some of the Dems definitely could have and would have done more than that. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Here's how the left would handle the virus attacks...25 days after President Trump's decision to halt flights to and from China (with the exclusion of American ex-patriots) Pelosi was walked around Chinatown in San Francisco after Coronavirus cases had already been confirmed in the US encouraging people to shop and eat in Chinatown. We do want to say to people, come to Chinatown. Here we are…and come join us,” Pelosi said. Fears of the Coronavirus are “unwarranted in light of the precautions that are being taken here in the United States.” Nancy you and Joe are at the same aged mental stage ..

    Was saying Coronavirus cases were at 15 and soon be down to zero in March a better strategy? Was downplaying the severity of covid and avoiding a mask mandate for 4 months a good strategy? Was saying anyone that wants a test can get one in March when they weren't even readily available a solid strategy? 

    Like you said Trump halting flights from China did not do anything because Americans working or conducting business in China were still permitted to come back. So what did that actually achieve? So you just admitted that all Trump really did was put a meaningless flight ban from China in place and that was it? I think some of the Dems definitely could have and would have done more than that. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:25 PM ET #1402

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Was saying

    Coronavirus cases were at 15 and

    soon be down to zero in March

    a better strategy?

     

    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:

     

    "When you have 15 people, and the 15
    within a couple of days
    is going to be down to close to zero,
    That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

                                   -- Donald Trump, Feb 26

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Was saying

    Coronavirus cases were at 15 and

    soon be down to zero in March

    a better strategy?

     

    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:

     

    "When you have 15 people, and the 15
    within a couple of days
    is going to be down to close to zero,
    That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

                                   -- Donald Trump, Feb 26

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:25 PM ET #1403

    After the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.” in reference to the ban..

    Binden was upset, that President Trump closed the border with China due to coronavirus..This is an example of what the Left would do..open borders,, just like our Southern borders..the oppisite of what President Trump did.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHbJKgsIoiA

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    After the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.” in reference to the ban..

    Binden was upset, that President Trump closed the border with China due to coronavirus..This is an example of what the Left would do..open borders,, just like our Southern borders..the oppisite of what President Trump did.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHbJKgsIoiA

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:27 PM ET #1404

     

    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:

     

    "When you have 15 people, and the 15
    within a couple of days
    is going to be down to close to zero,
    That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

                                   -- Donald Trump, Feb 26

     

    and that answers what the left would have done?

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    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:

     

    "When you have 15 people, and the 15
    within a couple of days
    is going to be down to close to zero,
    That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

                                   -- Donald Trump, Feb 26

     

    and that answers what the left would have done?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:32 PM ET #1405

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:   "When you have 15 people, and the 15within a couple of daysis going to be down to close to zero,That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."                                -- Donald Trump, Feb 26  

     

    and that answers what the left would have done?

    Have no idea.  Ask a lefty.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Obviously not.  Only a dummy would say something STUPID like this:   "When you have 15 people, and the 15within a couple of daysis going to be down to close to zero,That’s a pretty good job we’ve done."                                -- Donald Trump, Feb 26  

     

    and that answers what the left would have done?

    Have no idea.  Ask a lefty.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:36 PM ET #1406

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by EyePatch: Many of you leftist are blaming Trump/government for the virus...how would have you handled this virus? I’m not on this forum to start a political rally but if you think sleepy joe is your answer you have your head in the sand! I've asked this many times. No answers. Mandated mask wearing 2-3 months ago, and informed all the Republican led states to hold off on re-opening their state economies until further information on COVID-19 was discovered, and the virus was under control. Perhaps have the states meet all of the criteria established by the CDC before re-opening, which none of the states actually achieved.  Perhaps refrain from holding re-election rallies in states with utpicks in covid cases like Oklahoma  Just a few of the measures which could have occurred with capable leadership.

    an_light

    Trump administration's handling of Covid-19 is a failure.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/506129-trumps-failed-covid-response-managing-a-pandemic-isnt-a-states-rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by EyePatch: Many of you leftist are blaming Trump/government for the virus...how would have you handled this virus? I’m not on this forum to start a political rally but if you think sleepy joe is your answer you have your head in the sand! I've asked this many times. No answers. Mandated mask wearing 2-3 months ago, and informed all the Republican led states to hold off on re-opening their state economies until further information on COVID-19 was discovered, and the virus was under control. Perhaps have the states meet all of the criteria established by the CDC before re-opening, which none of the states actually achieved.  Perhaps refrain from holding re-election rallies in states with utpicks in covid cases like Oklahoma  Just a few of the measures which could have occurred with capable leadership.

    an_light

    Trump administration's handling of Covid-19 is a failure.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/506129-trumps-failed-covid-response-managing-a-pandemic-isnt-a-states-rights

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:39 PM ET #1407

    I believe many Americans already have their minds made up as to who they are voting for. It’s the undecided voters that will really decide the outcome.  I would like to know why sleepy Joe hasn’t named his VP yet? Why is it such a secret?
    Don’t get me started on that Pelosi lady??????! Does she even know and understand where she lives? America land of the Free. 

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    I believe many Americans already have their minds made up as to who they are voting for. It’s the undecided voters that will really decide the outcome.  I would like to know why sleepy Joe hasn’t named his VP yet? Why is it such a secret?
    Don’t get me started on that Pelosi lady??????! Does she even know and understand where she lives? America land of the Free. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:43 PM ET #1408

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Have no idea.  Ask a lefty.

    I'm ..

    So what would the left have done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Have no idea.  Ask a lefty.

    I'm ..

    So what would the left have done?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:45 PM ET #1409

    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless.

    Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. 

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    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless.

    Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:46 PM ET #1410

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Have no idea.  Ask a lefty. I'm .. So what would the left have done?

    A "Lefty" is not President right now, so who cares? 

    Again, a capable leader applying medical science, common sense, and reasoning could have enacted any of the measures listed below, regardless of political party affiliation. 

    Mandated mask wearing 2-3 months ago, and informed all the Republican led states to hold off on re-opening their state economies until further information on COVID-19 was discovered, and the virus was under control. Perhaps have the states meet all of the criteria established by the CDC before re-opening, which none of the states actually achieved. an_light

    Perhaps refrain from holding re-election rallies in states with utpicks in covid cases like Oklahoma confused

    Just a few of the measures which could have occurred with capable leadership. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Have no idea.  Ask a lefty. I'm .. So what would the left have done?

    A "Lefty" is not President right now, so who cares? 

    Again, a capable leader applying medical science, common sense, and reasoning could have enacted any of the measures listed below, regardless of political party affiliation. 

    Mandated mask wearing 2-3 months ago, and informed all the Republican led states to hold off on re-opening their state economies until further information on COVID-19 was discovered, and the virus was under control. Perhaps have the states meet all of the criteria established by the CDC before re-opening, which none of the states actually achieved. an_light

    Perhaps refrain from holding re-election rallies in states with utpicks in covid cases like Oklahoma confused

    Just a few of the measures which could have occurred with capable leadership. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:52 PM ET #1411

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Trump administration's handling of Covid-19 is a failure.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/506129-trumps-failed-covid-response-managing-a-pandemic-isnt-a-states-rights

    An excerpt from Europa's link:

    "It may have made political sense for President Trump to put 50 different
    governors in charge of the nation’s reopening. But it wasn’t in the best
    interest of the health of the nation.    Managing a pandemic isn’t a
    states’ rights issue. This is a national emergency that demands a unified
    and structured approach led by federal authorities and elected officials.
    That starts with clear communication and trusted leadership at the very top,
    something that has been in short supply given the mixed signals from the
    administration on PPE, testing, mask-wearing, social distancing, and
    gatherings, to name a few."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Trump administration's handling of Covid-19 is a failure.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/506129-trumps-failed-covid-response-managing-a-pandemic-isnt-a-states-rights

    An excerpt from Europa's link:

    "It may have made political sense for President Trump to put 50 different
    governors in charge of the nation’s reopening. But it wasn’t in the best
    interest of the health of the nation.    Managing a pandemic isn’t a
    states’ rights issue. This is a national emergency that demands a unified
    and structured approach led by federal authorities and elected officials.
    That starts with clear communication and trusted leadership at the very top,
    something that has been in short supply given the mixed signals from the
    administration on PPE, testing, mask-wearing, social distancing, and
    gatherings, to name a few."

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 2:55 PM ET #1412

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless.

    Trump never had a plan.

    He's not working on a plan.

    He will never have a plan.

    Word! trump FAILED "bigly"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless.

    Trump never had a plan.

    He's not working on a plan.

    He will never have a plan.

    Word! trump FAILED "bigly"

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:02 PM ET #1413

    Did/does it make economic sense to shut the whole country down while we wait for the ‘almighty vaccination’? And

    I wondered who made the decision to say ‘essential workers’ to be open and who had to be closed? In essence all businesses are essential.

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    Did/does it make economic sense to shut the whole country down while we wait for the ‘almighty vaccination’? And

    I wondered who made the decision to say ‘essential workers’ to be open and who had to be closed? In essence all businesses are essential.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan.

    The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan.

    The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:10 PM ET #1415

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    A "Lefty" is not President right now, so who cares?

    You make way too much sense, Dee. LOL  That sort of thing just flies over the heads of MOST trump-supporters.

    I know the things I wish had been done from my "Moderate/Independent" POV and you have listed several. 

    But it always comes back to this:

    Our duly *IMPEACHED* trump is in charge....all this is on HIS watch!

    If he's gonna brag & boast AND TAKE CREDIT FOR the conditions of our nation when times are GOOD (like he ALWAYS does)

    then he damn well OWNS the responsibility for the conditions of our nation when times are BAD.

    Record unemployment

    Record budget deficit

    Record National Debt

    Record annual interest payments we must make on that record DEBT

    WORLD record for covid-19 DEATHS....approaching 143,000 now; estimating over 200,000 corpses.

    7th WORST death rate PER CAPITA from 129 countries over 4 million populations

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    A "Lefty" is not President right now, so who cares?

    You make way too much sense, Dee. LOL  That sort of thing just flies over the heads of MOST trump-supporters.

    I know the things I wish had been done from my "Moderate/Independent" POV and you have listed several. 

    But it always comes back to this:

    Our duly *IMPEACHED* trump is in charge....all this is on HIS watch!

    If he's gonna brag & boast AND TAKE CREDIT FOR the conditions of our nation when times are GOOD (like he ALWAYS does)

    then he damn well OWNS the responsibility for the conditions of our nation when times are BAD.

    Record unemployment

    Record budget deficit

    Record National Debt

    Record annual interest payments we must make on that record DEBT

    WORLD record for covid-19 DEATHS....approaching 143,000 now; estimating over 200,000 corpses.

    7th WORST death rate PER CAPITA from 129 countries over 4 million populations

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:15 PM ET #1416

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus

    Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency. an_roll_laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus

    Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:16 PM ET #1417

    The truth is the Governor's are each running their own coronavirus response with guidelines from the CDC.

    California hasn't fully reopened, mandated masks a month ago and yesterday had +10,278 new cases and 120 deaths.

    Does Trump have the power to mandate states to reopen businesses or close businesses? No

    USA 50,403,896 tests which is way more than any other county. 

     

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    The truth is the Governor's are each running their own coronavirus response with guidelines from the CDC.

    California hasn't fully reopened, mandated masks a month ago and yesterday had +10,278 new cases and 120 deaths.

    Does Trump have the power to mandate states to reopen businesses or close businesses? No

    USA 50,403,896 tests which is way more than any other county. 

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:20 PM ET #1418

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency.

    Repeating...

    An excerpt from Europa's link:

    "It may have made political sense for President Trump to put 50 different
    governors in charge of the nation’s reopening. But it wasn’t in the best
    interest of the health of the nation.    Managing a pandemic isn’t a
    states’ rights issue. This is a national emergency that demands a unified
    and structured approach led by federal authorities and elected officials.


    That starts with clear communication and trusted leadership at the very top,
    something that has been in short supply given the mixed signals from the
    administration on PPE, testing, mask-wearing, social distancing, and
    gatherings, to name a few."

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: We have thousands waiting in their cars to be tested & then waiting another 7 to 10 days to get their results which are at that point almost worthless. Trump never had a plan. He's not working on a plan. He will never have a plan. The states (governors)... not the federal government .. are the ones that need to speed up testing against the coronavirus Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency.

    Repeating...

    An excerpt from Europa's link:

    "It may have made political sense for President Trump to put 50 different
    governors in charge of the nation’s reopening. But it wasn’t in the best
    interest of the health of the nation.    Managing a pandemic isn’t a
    states’ rights issue. This is a national emergency that demands a unified
    and structured approach led by federal authorities and elected officials.


    That starts with clear communication and trusted leadership at the very top,
    something that has been in short supply given the mixed signals from the
    administration on PPE, testing, mask-wearing, social distancing, and
    gatherings, to name a few."

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:37 PM ET #1419

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    The truth is the Governor's are each running their own coronavirus response with guidelines from the CDC. California hasn't fully reopened, mandated masks a month ago and yesterday had +10,278 new cases and 120 deaths.

    Does Trump have the power to mandate states to reopen businesses or close businesses? No

    USA 50,403,896 tests which is way more than any other county.

    First, at one point trump stated he has "total authority" and it is "absolute" in direct reference to what he can do inside individual states.

    Second, China has done more tests. (Worldometers)

    Third, for a fair comparison we look at PER CAPITA numbers -- and the USA is 23rd in population testing

    Fourth, that states are being left to fend for themselves  should NOT be the case

    Fifth, much (not all but much) of this would not have been necessary - including the current rise in cases/hospitalizations/deaths in California and elsewhere -- had trump acted sooner, as the Columbia University research team uncovered.

    Sixth, it was the leadership of the mayors and Governors to lockdown and prevent an even worse catastrophe than we already have -- not trump.....If anything HE openly resisted the whole idea most of the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    The truth is the Governor's are each running their own coronavirus response with guidelines from the CDC. California hasn't fully reopened, mandated masks a month ago and yesterday had +10,278 new cases and 120 deaths.

    Does Trump have the power to mandate states to reopen businesses or close businesses? No

    USA 50,403,896 tests which is way more than any other county.

    First, at one point trump stated he has "total authority" and it is "absolute" in direct reference to what he can do inside individual states.

    Second, China has done more tests. (Worldometers)

    Third, for a fair comparison we look at PER CAPITA numbers -- and the USA is 23rd in population testing

    Fourth, that states are being left to fend for themselves  should NOT be the case

    Fifth, much (not all but much) of this would not have been necessary - including the current rise in cases/hospitalizations/deaths in California and elsewhere -- had trump acted sooner, as the Columbia University research team uncovered.

    Sixth, it was the leadership of the mayors and Governors to lockdown and prevent an even worse catastrophe than we already have -- not trump.....If anything HE openly resisted the whole idea most of the time!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:37 PM ET #1420

    If Trump were to impose orders that bind everyone to stay at home or wear masks, his constitutional authority to do so would be highly contested as a matter of both separation of powers and federalism.

    Trump sends in Federal Agents to protect federal buildings and Governor Kate Brown filed a lawsuit, seeking a restraining order. LOL

    But yeah if Trump tried to take control of the pandemic the left would have followed his lead. LOL

     

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    If Trump were to impose orders that bind everyone to stay at home or wear masks, his constitutional authority to do so would be highly contested as a matter of both separation of powers and federalism.

    Trump sends in Federal Agents to protect federal buildings and Governor Kate Brown filed a lawsuit, seeking a restraining order. LOL

    But yeah if Trump tried to take control of the pandemic the left would have followed his lead. LOL

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 22, 2020 - 3:42 PM ET #1421

    Protecting people by requiring them to wear masks is slightly different than sending in federal agents to beat unarmed Navy veterans in the streets with batons for no reason. confused

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    Protecting people by requiring them to wear masks is slightly different than sending in federal agents to beat unarmed Navy veterans in the streets with batons for no reason. confused

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    If Trump were to impose orders that bind everyone to stay at home or wear masks, his constitutional authority to do so would be highly contested as a matter of both separation of powers and federalism.

    Right, because he doesn't have the right to impose it on any given state.

    But he should *LEAD* and facilitate a coordinated response, like other countries did...That's all the people wanted.

    But didn't get.  HE FAILED!

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Trump sends in Federal Agents to protect federal buildings and Governor Kate Brown filed a lawsuit, seeking a restraining order.
    Federal government overreach and purely political.  The states have national guards if they fee they need them. THEY DON'T.  adolf just wants to be "seen" as the great defender...the great protector! LOL

    143,000 dead Americans on his watch and he wants to be seen as a great leader of law & order -- despite the states telling him to ph*ck OFF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    If Trump were to impose orders that bind everyone to stay at home or wear masks, his constitutional authority to do so would be highly contested as a matter of both separation of powers and federalism.

    Right, because he doesn't have the right to impose it on any given state.

    But he should *LEAD* and facilitate a coordinated response, like other countries did...That's all the people wanted.

    But didn't get.  HE FAILED!

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by chadebennett:

    Trump sends in Federal Agents to protect federal buildings and Governor Kate Brown filed a lawsuit, seeking a restraining order.
    Federal government overreach and purely political.  The states have national guards if they fee they need them. THEY DON'T.  adolf just wants to be "seen" as the great defender...the great protector! LOL

    143,000 dead Americans on his watch and he wants to be seen as a great leader of law & order -- despite the states telling him to ph*ck OFF!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Protecting people by requiring them to wear masks is slightly different than sending in federal agents to beat unarmed Navy veterans in the streets with batons for no reason.

    Fascist Gestapo tactics. 

    adolf's "brown shirts" from NAZI Germany in the 30's

    Russia -- even today!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Protecting people by requiring them to wear masks is slightly different than sending in federal agents to beat unarmed Navy veterans in the streets with batons for no reason.

    Fascist Gestapo tactics. 

    adolf's "brown shirts" from NAZI Germany in the 30's

    Russia -- even today!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency.

    I Did not post that ....

    Trump offered assistance with coronaviorus to all state governors ..

    In fact.....New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ) said that President Trump's assistance with the state's response has been " very creative ," and that he has been "fully engaged on trying to help New York."..Cuomo said the Vice President and President have responded very quickly to all of their requests.

    Gov, Gavin Newsom California stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing

    Newsom stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing

    There is a list of many more Governors praising Presidents assistance and help..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency.

    I Did not post that ....

    Trump offered assistance with coronaviorus to all state governors ..

    In fact.....New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ) said that President Trump's assistance with the state's response has been " very creative ," and that he has been "fully engaged on trying to help New York."..Cuomo said the Vice President and President have responded very quickly to all of their requests.

    Gov, Gavin Newsom California stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing

    Newsom stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing

    There is a list of many more Governors praising Presidents assistance and help..

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency. I Did not post that .... Trump offered assistance with coronaviorus to all state governors .. In fact.....New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ) said that President Trump's assistance with the state's response has been " very creative ," and that he has been "fully engaged on trying to help New York."..Cuomo said the Vice President and President have responded very quickly to all of their requests. Gov, Gavin Newsom California stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing Newsom stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing There is a list of many more Governors praising Presidents assistance and help..
    Sure!  And an equally long list of VALID COMPLAINTS by many of those same Governors at different times.

    Nevertheless MOST (not all but most) of which would NOT even be a big issue had trump acted sooner, as shown clearly in the Columbia University research...which I believe trump then condemned as a liberal hoax and fake news....his "go to" quotes he likes to keep handy at all times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Suree. Yes, the Federal Government should play no role in supporting the states with test speed and efficiency. I Did not post that .... Trump offered assistance with coronaviorus to all state governors .. In fact.....New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ) said that President Trump's assistance with the state's response has been " very creative ," and that he has been "fully engaged on trying to help New York."..Cuomo said the Vice President and President have responded very quickly to all of their requests. Gov, Gavin Newsom California stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing Newsom stated that he has had long conversations with the President's administration and that he has followed through on every single thing There is a list of many more Governors praising Presidents assistance and help..
    Sure!  And an equally long list of VALID COMPLAINTS by many of those same Governors at different times.

    Nevertheless MOST (not all but most) of which would NOT even be a big issue had trump acted sooner, as shown clearly in the Columbia University research...which I believe trump then condemned as a liberal hoax and fake news....his "go to" quotes he likes to keep handy at all times...

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