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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2020 - 1:28 AM ET #2076

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control.

    and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus

    stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control.

    and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus

    stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison

     
    fubah2
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2020 - 3:31 AM ET #2077

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control.

    and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison

     

    Dr. Anthony Fauci says the number of US fatalities could approach 539,000

    as the country has "yet to see the effects of any Thanksgiving holiday-related surge."

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control.

    and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison

     

    Dr. Anthony Fauci says the number of US fatalities could approach 539,000

    as the country has "yet to see the effects of any Thanksgiving holiday-related surge."

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2020 - 8:30 PM ET #2078

    According to propublica, lack of national standards hinder efforts to stop virus spread.  As covid cases skyrocket nationwide, the extent of public health response varies from state to state.  Resulting in lax states with weak mitigation spreading virus to restrictive states with mask mandates.  Virus doesn't respect geographic boundaries and states can't wall themselves off from neighbors.  Doctor Fauci says US needs an uniform approach to fight virus spread instead of a disjointed one.  In a pandemic, infections anywhere are infections everywhere.  A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

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    According to propublica, lack of national standards hinder efforts to stop virus spread.  As covid cases skyrocket nationwide, the extent of public health response varies from state to state.  Resulting in lax states with weak mitigation spreading virus to restrictive states with mask mandates.  Virus doesn't respect geographic boundaries and states can't wall themselves off from neighbors.  Doctor Fauci says US needs an uniform approach to fight virus spread instead of a disjointed one.  In a pandemic, infections anywhere are infections everywhere.  A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2020 - 8:48 PM ET #2079

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control. and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison   Dr. Anthony Fauci says the number of US fatalities could approach 539,000 as the country has "yet to see the effects of any Thanksgiving holiday-related surge."

    Mr. Donald J Trump has already given up governing the Covid pandemic, he is only interested in baseless "voter fraud" and "rigged election". Hold on your butts, it's gonna be very ugly down the stretch before we see the end of the tunnel.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Doctor Fauci is frustrated with people who thinks coronavirus is no worse than the flu. More Americans have died from coronavirus than from influenza during the previous 5 flu seasons combined according to US center for disease control. and that number is only for 9 months of coronavirus stll have three more months of rump caused deaths to count in the comparison   Dr. Anthony Fauci says the number of US fatalities could approach 539,000 as the country has "yet to see the effects of any Thanksgiving holiday-related surge."

    Mr. Donald J Trump has already given up governing the Covid pandemic, he is only interested in baseless "voter fraud" and "rigged election". Hold on your butts, it's gonna be very ugly down the stretch before we see the end of the tunnel.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2020 - 11:28 PM ET #2080

    British woman is first to receive
    clinically approved Covid vaccine

    NBC
    Having beaten trump to get vaccine approval, the UK made a
    British woman the FIRST to receive  a  clinically approved Covid vaccine

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    British woman is first to receive
    clinically approved Covid vaccine

    NBC
    Having beaten trump to get vaccine approval, the UK made a
    British woman the FIRST to receive  a  clinically approved Covid vaccine

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2020 - 8:12 AM ET #2081

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

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    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2020 - 10:10 PM ET #2082

    Today over 3,000 souls are no longer with us.

    If only we had a president than cared about the country more than himself. 

    He's more concerned with staying in power & out of jail.

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    Today over 3,000 souls are no longer with us.

    If only we had a president than cared about the country more than himself. 

    He's more concerned with staying in power & out of jail.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2020 - 5:18 PM ET #2083

    How can you believe any test when the following happens?

    An Austrian parliamentary member demonstrated the defectiveness of the government’s Covid-19 tests by showing how a glass of coke yields a positive result.

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    How can you believe any test when the following happens?

    An Austrian parliamentary member demonstrated the defectiveness of the government’s Covid-19 tests by showing how a glass of coke yields a positive result.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2020 - 5:43 PM ET #2084

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time. 

    Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

     

    1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary

    2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so

    3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations

    4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time. 

    Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

     

    1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary

    2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so

    3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations

    4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2020 - 5:59 PM ET #2085

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.   10 facts about rumplickers ::   1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary 2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so 3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations 4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

    5th the demonsperm whacko and some morons on radical right websites claim vaccines will alter dna causing us to become like mindless zombies who want to turn usa into another socialist country like russia was under stalin while at the same time eating babies and traffiking children for sex to the chinese and iranians

     

    6th they believe that staying home and taking precautions when sick AND INFECTIOUS is against the constitution and freedom for citizens to do whatever they want whenever they want and  TO  anyone they want . they believe this is their right to infect others if they want to

     

    7th they dont believe in science becuz rump doesnt . and besides pompeo said he though the virus came from a chinese military lab to destroy america . he later retracted that entirely but the rumplickers r choosing to believe the first thing he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.   10 facts about rumplickers ::   1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary 2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so 3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations 4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

    5th the demonsperm whacko and some morons on radical right websites claim vaccines will alter dna causing us to become like mindless zombies who want to turn usa into another socialist country like russia was under stalin while at the same time eating babies and traffiking children for sex to the chinese and iranians

     

    6th they believe that staying home and taking precautions when sick AND INFECTIOUS is against the constitution and freedom for citizens to do whatever they want whenever they want and  TO  anyone they want . they believe this is their right to infect others if they want to

     

    7th they dont believe in science becuz rump doesnt . and besides pompeo said he though the virus came from a chinese military lab to destroy america . he later retracted that entirely but the rumplickers r choosing to believe the first thing he said

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2020 - 6:03 PM ET #2086

    Let's try again KellyM. I don't use Common Core math.

    1. There are 320M Americans.

    2. Roughly 280,000 deaths.

    3. 40% of the deaths were in nursing homes and long term facilities.

    4. 40% of 280,000 is 112,000.

    5. 280,000-112,000 is 168,000.

    6. There has only been 168,000 deaths outside of nursing homes and long term care facilities.

    7. 168,000 divided by 320,000,000 is a survivability rate of 99.9995% outside of nursing homes and long term care facilities.

    8. The country should never have  been shut down and needs to open up immediately! People need to go back to work so they do not in  a 12 hour line waiting for their Christmas turkey and 5 lb bag of potatoes.

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    Let's try again KellyM. I don't use Common Core math.

    1. There are 320M Americans.

    2. Roughly 280,000 deaths.

    3. 40% of the deaths were in nursing homes and long term facilities.

    4. 40% of 280,000 is 112,000.

    5. 280,000-112,000 is 168,000.

    6. There has only been 168,000 deaths outside of nursing homes and long term care facilities.

    7. 168,000 divided by 320,000,000 is a survivability rate of 99.9995% outside of nursing homes and long term care facilities.

    8. The country should never have  been shut down and needs to open up immediately! People need to go back to work so they do not in  a 12 hour line waiting for their Christmas turkey and 5 lb bag of potatoes.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2020 - 6:07 PM ET #2087

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

     

     

     

    1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary

     

    2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so

     

    3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations

     

    4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

    Absolutely right ON   thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

     

     

     

    1st   they dont believe masks r effective at reducing spread of any virus despite the facts to the contrary

     

    2nd  amazingly they still believe hydroxychloroquine is actually a cure for coronavirus  likely because the demonsperm lunatic said so

     

    3rd  they wrongly believe all US doctors at all hospitals in every state r in on a big fraud scam by risking their careers with deliberately falsifying official data just so they can recover the extra costs they incur from massive covid hospitalizations

     

    4th  they believe coronavirus is just another common flu all blown out of proportion becuz of wildly falsified data by all doctors in all hospitals now being overwhelmed by covid patients   and all state governments including red states and also by rumps own government agencies

     

    Absolutely right ON   thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

    u r missing nine and ten

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

    u r missing nine and ten

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.


    8th   rumplickers believe it is their right to be infectious out in public in large groups or anywhere they want and not have to wear masks and allow the virus to spread so we develop "herd mentality" like rump said we would . and if the vulnerable people dont want to risk severe illness which will have lasting aftereffects and lose one or two paycheques while sick or to even risk death from covid then thosse panzies should just stay shuttered for the next year or 2 or 3 until it eventually passes and shutup about it . rumplickers say they have the RIGHT to infect others and risk others' lives if they choose

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

      Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.


    8th   rumplickers believe it is their right to be infectious out in public in large groups or anywhere they want and not have to wear masks and allow the virus to spread so we develop "herd mentality" like rump said we would . and if the vulnerable people dont want to risk severe illness which will have lasting aftereffects and lose one or two paycheques while sick or to even risk death from covid then thosse panzies should just stay shuttered for the next year or 2 or 3 until it eventually passes and shutup about it . rumplickers say they have the RIGHT to infect others and risk others' lives if they choose

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.  

     

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

    5th   the demonsperm whacko and some morons on radical right websites claim vaccines will alter dna causing us to become like mindless zombies who want to turn usa into another socialist country like russia was under stalin while at the same time eating babies and traffiking children for sex to the chinese and iranians

     

    6th  they believe that staying home and taking precautions when sick AND INFECTIOUS is against the constitution and freedom for citizens to do whatever they want whenever they want and TO anyone they want . they believe this is their right to infect others if they want to

     

    7th   they dont believe in science becuz rump doesnt . and besides pompeo said he though the virus came from a chinese military lab to destroy america . he later retracted that entirely but the rumplickers r choosing to believe the first thing he said

     

    Describes them perfectly!  thumbs_up

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    On the internet, lies spread quickly while truths slowly emerge over time.  Washingtonpost provides 10 facts about coronavirus to combat common misinformation.  First, masks help to prevent virus spread.  Secondly, no known (non-vaccine) cures for coronavirus.  Third, hospitals have no reason to purposely diagnose coronavirus inaccurately.  Fourth, coronavirus is deadlier than influenza.  Fifth, covid vaccines do not alter people's DNA.  Sixth, staying home (while sick) and washing hands are healthy.  Seventh, scientists believe coronavirus originates from animals.  Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.  

     

     

    10 facts about rumplickers ::

    5th   the demonsperm whacko and some morons on radical right websites claim vaccines will alter dna causing us to become like mindless zombies who want to turn usa into another socialist country like russia was under stalin while at the same time eating babies and traffiking children for sex to the chinese and iranians

     

    6th  they believe that staying home and taking precautions when sick AND INFECTIOUS is against the constitution and freedom for citizens to do whatever they want whenever they want and TO anyone they want . they believe this is their right to infect others if they want to

     

    7th   they dont believe in science becuz rump doesnt . and besides pompeo said he though the virus came from a chinese military lab to destroy america . he later retracted that entirely but the rumplickers r choosing to believe the first thing he said

     

    Describes them perfectly!  thumbs_up

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:   Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

     

    8th   rumplickers believe it is their right to be infectious out in public in large groups or anywhere they want and not have to wear masks and allow the virus to spread so we develop "herd mentality" like rump said we would . and if the vulnerable people dont want to risk severe illness which will have lasting aftereffects and lose one or two paycheques while sick or to even risk death from covid then thosse panzies should just stay shuttered for the next year or 2 or 3 until it eventually passes and shutup about it . rumplickers say they have the RIGHT to infect others and risk others' lives if they choose

     

    Sadly, this is EXACTLY what many stupid people believe      

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:   Eighth, urging high risk people to stay home and letting everyone else live normal lives wouldn't end pandemic crisis.

     

     

    8th   rumplickers believe it is their right to be infectious out in public in large groups or anywhere they want and not have to wear masks and allow the virus to spread so we develop "herd mentality" like rump said we would . and if the vulnerable people dont want to risk severe illness which will have lasting aftereffects and lose one or two paycheques while sick or to even risk death from covid then thosse panzies should just stay shuttered for the next year or 2 or 3 until it eventually passes and shutup about it . rumplickers say they have the RIGHT to infect others and risk others' lives if they choose

     

    Sadly, this is EXACTLY what many stupid people believe      

     

     

     

     

     
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    GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine.

    BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced.

     

     

     

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    GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine.

    BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced.

     

     

     

     
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    President Donald Trump’s Dept. of Veterans Affairs is throwing away extra coronavirus vaccine found in vials from Pfizer that are designed to provide five inoculations.

    Why?

    “Inventory monitoring.”

    Just one day after the doctors and nurses started inoculating Americans with the desperately-awaited coronavirus vaccine, reports started coming in that many vials, which hold five injections, had enough extra for one or two more. Two more injections from a five-injection vial is literally an extra 40%, which means up to an extra 40% of Americans could be protected from the deadly disease earlier than first expected.

    An internal memo obtained by Radio.com (formerly CBS Radio) reveals the VA “is planning to discard additional doses of the coronavirus vaccine from Pfizer vials that arrived overfilled, despite Food and Drug Administration guidance to use all doses during the public health emergency.”

    Officials at Veterans Affairs say they “argued using the extra doses could jeopardize future allocations of the vaccine.”

    “VA officials don’t want medical staff to administer more than the five doses per vial, and any additional doses should be ‘discarded,’ according to a memo obtained by Connecting Vets, which was sent to Veterans Health Administration pharmacy chiefs and others at the department Thursday morning.”

    But the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates vaccines, has publicly directed medical professionals to use all the vaccine available.

    “CDC is requiring strict inventory monitoring of this product,” the VA memo reads. “Drawing extra doses will make the data questionable.”

    “Sending what appears to be inaccurate data to CDC may jeopardize VA’s ability to get additional allocations of product in the future,” the memo, from Jennifer L. Zacher,  adds.

    Nearly 4000 Americans died from COVID-19 just yesterday. Over 310,000 Americans have already been killed by the coronavirus.

    Waste not want not...

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    President Donald Trump’s Dept. of Veterans Affairs is throwing away extra coronavirus vaccine found in vials from Pfizer that are designed to provide five inoculations.

    Why?

    “Inventory monitoring.”

    Just one day after the doctors and nurses started inoculating Americans with the desperately-awaited coronavirus vaccine, reports started coming in that many vials, which hold five injections, had enough extra for one or two more. Two more injections from a five-injection vial is literally an extra 40%, which means up to an extra 40% of Americans could be protected from the deadly disease earlier than first expected.

    An internal memo obtained by Radio.com (formerly CBS Radio) reveals the VA “is planning to discard additional doses of the coronavirus vaccine from Pfizer vials that arrived overfilled, despite Food and Drug Administration guidance to use all doses during the public health emergency.”

    Officials at Veterans Affairs say they “argued using the extra doses could jeopardize future allocations of the vaccine.”

    “VA officials don’t want medical staff to administer more than the five doses per vial, and any additional doses should be ‘discarded,’ according to a memo obtained by Connecting Vets, which was sent to Veterans Health Administration pharmacy chiefs and others at the department Thursday morning.”

    But the Food and Drug Administration, which regulates vaccines, has publicly directed medical professionals to use all the vaccine available.

    “CDC is requiring strict inventory monitoring of this product,” the VA memo reads. “Drawing extra doses will make the data questionable.”

    “Sending what appears to be inaccurate data to CDC may jeopardize VA’s ability to get additional allocations of product in the future,” the memo, from Jennifer L. Zacher,  adds.

    Nearly 4000 Americans died from COVID-19 just yesterday. Over 310,000 Americans have already been killed by the coronavirus.

    Waste not want not...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine.

    BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced.

    it will take about 4-6  months for everyone to have opportunity to get innoculated but sadly about 20% - 40% say they will not do it .

    it requires roughly 75% innoculated at bare minimum to achieve a great deal of herd immunity . unless 75% cooperate the virus is likely to still b with us same time next year becuz of those people . the rump lickers follow whatever rump says so if he came out strongly and repeatedly day after day preaching about how everyone must get vaccinated  then it would happen .

    but rump wont do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine.

    BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced.

    it will take about 4-6  months for everyone to have opportunity to get innoculated but sadly about 20% - 40% say they will not do it .

    it requires roughly 75% innoculated at bare minimum to achieve a great deal of herd immunity . unless 75% cooperate the virus is likely to still b with us same time next year becuz of those people . the rump lickers follow whatever rump says so if he came out strongly and repeatedly day after day preaching about how everyone must get vaccinated  then it would happen .

    but rump wont do it

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine. BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced. it will take about 4-6  months for everyone to have opportunity to get innoculated but sadly about 20% - 40% say they will not do it . it requires roughly 75% innoculated at bare minimum to achieve a great deal of herd immunity . unless 75% cooperate the virus is likely to still b with us same time next year becuz of those people . the rump lickers follow whatever rump says so if he came out strongly and repeatedly day after day preaching about how everyone must get vaccinated  then it would happen . but rump wont do it

    Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors. Age is a huge factor. I'd happily take anything over 50%. As far as where we'll be next year, we need to already be worried about mutations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: GOOD NEWS....Americans are starting to receive the vaccine. BAD NEWS: Over 300,000 Americans didn't need to die if we wore masks and social distanced. it will take about 4-6  months for everyone to have opportunity to get innoculated but sadly about 20% - 40% say they will not do it . it requires roughly 75% innoculated at bare minimum to achieve a great deal of herd immunity . unless 75% cooperate the virus is likely to still b with us same time next year becuz of those people . the rump lickers follow whatever rump says so if he came out strongly and repeatedly day after day preaching about how everyone must get vaccinated  then it would happen . but rump wont do it

    Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors. Age is a huge factor. I'd happily take anything over 50%. As far as where we'll be next year, we need to already be worried about mutations.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors.

     

    in a single herd maybe .  but the problem is in america members of this herd r free to move around from herd to herd spreading the virus . therefore 75% at bare minimum will be required and remember even then it is not 100% protection nor does it kill off the virus . the vaccines only allege 95% success not 100 and also they have concerns that the protection could be short term just like the flu

    experrts take all what u said into consideratioon and those experts still insist on 75% at bare minimum 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors.

     

    in a single herd maybe .  but the problem is in america members of this herd r free to move around from herd to herd spreading the virus . therefore 75% at bare minimum will be required and remember even then it is not 100% protection nor does it kill off the virus . the vaccines only allege 95% success not 100 and also they have concerns that the protection could be short term just like the flu

    experrts take all what u said into consideratioon and those experts still insist on 75% at bare minimum 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors.   in a single herd maybe .  but the problem is in america members of this herd r free to move around from herd to herd spreading the virus . therefore 75% at bare minimum will be required and remember even then it is not 100% protection nor does it kill off the virus . the vaccines only allege 95% success not 100 and also they have concerns that the protection could be short term just like the flu experrts take all what u said into consideratioon and those experts still insist on 75% at bare minimum

    Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Anything over 50% will be better than you think. If we are at 50% by spring, we'll be sitting pretty. 75% is widely accepted as a herd immunity threshold but there are other mitigating factors.   in a single herd maybe .  but the problem is in america members of this herd r free to move around from herd to herd spreading the virus . therefore 75% at bare minimum will be required and remember even then it is not 100% protection nor does it kill off the virus . the vaccines only allege 95% success not 100 and also they have concerns that the protection could be short term just like the flu experrts take all what u said into consideratioon and those experts still insist on 75% at bare minimum

    Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

      Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

     

    Agreed.   Almost hopeless.

    So if the scientists and infectious disease experts are right then this thing is still going to be with us for another year at least and masking, social distancing, and crowd sizing will be a feature of our nation for that length of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

      Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

     

    Agreed.   Almost hopeless.

    So if the scientists and infectious disease experts are right then this thing is still going to be with us for another year at least and masking, social distancing, and crowd sizing will be a feature of our nation for that length of time.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

     

    yep     repos will simply refuse to do anything mandated by the govt  including following laws designed to protect people  and pretty much any other laws ftm

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Good luck getting 75% of Americans to do anything. If the government mandated breathing, 30% of the population would instantly die of suffocation. That's with a mandate. For literally breathing. The vaccine isn't mandated.

     

    yep     repos will simply refuse to do anything mandated by the govt  including following laws designed to protect people  and pretty much any other laws ftm

     
     
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    Science and data have painted a clear path to beat coronavirus and reduce transmissions.  However it's hard to get people to follow rules.  For countries, most successes  against pandemic have been achieved through collective action.  For examples, vaccination and mask wearing.  Also helpful are stronger social safety net and public health infrastructure.  US individual approach isn't working against a national problem that requires national remedy.  Collective action takes courage.  Wearing a mask or accepting a vaccine is a act of patriotism.  If 90% of population complies, thousands of lives could be saved.  The sooner the pandemic ends, the sooner life can return to normal.

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    Science and data have painted a clear path to beat coronavirus and reduce transmissions.  However it's hard to get people to follow rules.  For countries, most successes  against pandemic have been achieved through collective action.  For examples, vaccination and mask wearing.  Also helpful are stronger social safety net and public health infrastructure.  US individual approach isn't working against a national problem that requires national remedy.  Collective action takes courage.  Wearing a mask or accepting a vaccine is a act of patriotism.  If 90% of population complies, thousands of lives could be saved.  The sooner the pandemic ends, the sooner life can return to normal.

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