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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:38 PM ET #26

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     Yahhhh don't know if u got the memo but u get the shots and the masks come off, that's what's happening in the world right. This isn't a conspiracy unfortunately,  I know u want it to be cause u watch alot of TV and it sounds cool, it's just science. It's literally that simple.

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     Yahhhh don't know if u got the memo but u get the shots and the masks come off, that's what's happening in the world right. This isn't a conspiracy unfortunately,  I know u want it to be cause u watch alot of TV and it sounds cool, it's just science. It's literally that simple.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:43 PM ET #27

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     all the people that got the shots I know are still masking. Go to the supermarkets and other places. 

    80% of people still wearing it. 

    It 1000% is a conspiracy. 

    We didn't need to shut down the country over something that mostly kills 80 year olds. 

    We went from "2 weeks to slow the spread" to "lose your job if you don't get an experimental shot where the manufacturer has no liability in cases of death and injury". 

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     all the people that got the shots I know are still masking. Go to the supermarkets and other places. 

    80% of people still wearing it. 

    It 1000% is a conspiracy. 

    We didn't need to shut down the country over something that mostly kills 80 year olds. 

    We went from "2 weeks to slow the spread" to "lose your job if you don't get an experimental shot where the manufacturer has no liability in cases of death and injury". 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:46 PM ET #28

    I heard that if you take the J&J vaccine, one dose of the Moderna, and 3 doses of the Pfizer, it makes your heater grow 3 inches. It's in the New England Journal of Medicine.

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    I heard that if you take the J&J vaccine, one dose of the Moderna, and 3 doses of the Pfizer, it makes your heater grow 3 inches. It's in the New England Journal of Medicine.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:47 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by justclick:

    @BCxx47  all the people that got the shots I know are still masking. Go to the supermarkets and other places.  80% of people still wearing it.  It 1000% is a conspiracy.  We didn't need to shut down the planet over something that mostly kills 80 year olds.  We went from "2 weeks to slow the spread" to "lose your job if you don't get an experimental shot where the manufacturer has no liability in cases of death and injury".

    I know this is a lie. You don't know any people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justclick:

    @BCxx47  all the people that got the shots I know are still masking. Go to the supermarkets and other places.  80% of people still wearing it.  It 1000% is a conspiracy.  We didn't need to shut down the planet over something that mostly kills 80 year olds.  We went from "2 weeks to slow the spread" to "lose your job if you don't get an experimental shot where the manufacturer has no liability in cases of death and injury".

    I know this is a lie. You don't know any people.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:48 PM ET #31

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     Oh man...as someone who works in an ICU unit during the last year and a half I can't help but just hope ppl like u get erased from the planet. God help u bro

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     Oh man...as someone who works in an ICU unit during the last year and a half I can't help but just hope ppl like u get erased from the planet. God help u bro

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:50 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by BCxx47:

    @justclick  Oh man...as someone who works in an ICU unit during the last year and a half I can't help but just hope ppl like u get erased from the planet. God help u bro

    That's racist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCxx47:

    @justclick  Oh man...as someone who works in an ICU unit during the last year and a half I can't help but just hope ppl like u get erased from the planet. God help u bro

    That's racist!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:51 PM ET #33

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     Probably is

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     Probably is

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:54 PM ET #34

    can I finish?!

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    can I finish?!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:54 PM ET #35

    Boo big pharma

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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 5:56 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps:

    Wow, I’m so glad an expert is here to tell us the real info.  I though I saw Irving’s foot land awkwardly, but it’s sad his first career injury is because of the vaccine.  Must be a conspiracy because it’s all the star players…

     

    One of the side effects is that it weakens the joints, cartilage, muscle fibers and bones. What would be a simple angle sprain would now be something worse. What would normally be a mild or normal pull of muscle now would be higher grade strain or pull. Numbers speak for themselves. Check the numbers on the total injuries this season in mlb, nhl and nba. just wait till the nba and college season starts...players are going to get hurt left right and center. especially in the college where basically almost all colleges are not giving a choice to the student athletes. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps:

    Wow, I’m so glad an expert is here to tell us the real info.  I though I saw Irving’s foot land awkwardly, but it’s sad his first career injury is because of the vaccine.  Must be a conspiracy because it’s all the star players…

     

    One of the side effects is that it weakens the joints, cartilage, muscle fibers and bones. What would be a simple angle sprain would now be something worse. What would normally be a mild or normal pull of muscle now would be higher grade strain or pull. Numbers speak for themselves. Check the numbers on the total injuries this season in mlb, nhl and nba. just wait till the nba and college season starts...players are going to get hurt left right and center. especially in the college where basically almost all colleges are not giving a choice to the student athletes. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 6:02 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps: Wow, I’m so glad an expert is here to tell us the real info.  I though I saw Irving’s foot land awkwardly, but it’s sad his first career injury is because of the vaccine.  Must be a conspiracy because it’s all the star players…   One of the side effects is that it weakens the joints, cartilage, muscle fibers and bones. What would be a simple angle sprain would now be something worse. What would normally be a mild or normal pull of muscle now would be higher grade strain or pull. Numbers speak for themselves. Check the numbers on the total injuries this season in mlb, nhl and nba. just wait till the nba and college season starts...players are going to get hurt left right and center. especially in the college where basically almost all colleges are not giving a choice to the student athletes.

    Through what mechanism does it weaken the joints, muscles, bones, etc??

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    Quote Originally Posted by mcbremps: Wow, I’m so glad an expert is here to tell us the real info.  I though I saw Irving’s foot land awkwardly, but it’s sad his first career injury is because of the vaccine.  Must be a conspiracy because it’s all the star players…   One of the side effects is that it weakens the joints, cartilage, muscle fibers and bones. What would be a simple angle sprain would now be something worse. What would normally be a mild or normal pull of muscle now would be higher grade strain or pull. Numbers speak for themselves. Check the numbers on the total injuries this season in mlb, nhl and nba. just wait till the nba and college season starts...players are going to get hurt left right and center. especially in the college where basically almost all colleges are not giving a choice to the student athletes.

    Through what mechanism does it weaken the joints, muscles, bones, etc??

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 6:02 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education.

    Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation. 

    Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education.

    Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation. 

    Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 6:03 PM ET #39

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    Oh boy here we go again everyone here politicizing and connecting injuries and vaccines in some way and are now all medical experts on a sports forum ….. really?confused

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    Oh boy here we go again everyone here politicizing and connecting injuries and vaccines in some way and are now all medical experts on a sports forum ….. really?confused

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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 6:06 PM ET #40

    Anyways, who is taking the Clippers/Jazz? Why did the line jump from 3 to 8?

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    Anyways, who is taking the Clippers/Jazz? Why did the line jump from 3 to 8?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 6:12 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by BCxx47:

    Holy fuck, I can not believe someone made this thread and actually wrote that much about it. The reason the stadiums are packed with fans is because of the vaccine you unbelievable idiot. I work in research at a top 5 hospital in the world and I can not wait to show my Co workers what you wrote so we can laugh our asses off. Holy fuck lmao I'm dying bro. The sheer stupidity of people is unreal

     

    You and your coworkers have been brain washed by pharma influencers. They took control of most education system and especially the medical side. Once upon at time dudes like Rockefeller, jp morgan and few others got flithy rich and they wanted to stay rich and keep control of the population and the government. One fine advisor told them that if you want to do that, fund the major wars. So they funded the major wars of world war 1 and world war 2 and usa became super power and these dudes became even more powerful and filthy rich. But it killed millions of men from the west, almost all white men and left home many widows and orphans...this is not good news for a consumerism economy where they can enslave the population. So they regrouped with the fine advisor and the advisor said, well if you want to do it without casualities, you guys have to take control of the education system but it is a much longer process that requires patience. And over the decades they have hijacked the education system, primarily the medical school. Almost all the non infectious diseses like heart disease, diabetes, lung disease etc sky rocketed after this happened because they produce all kinds of fake studies to push stuff then later its oops. Its like those 0 fat diet, studies for pain killers and many other medicines. They very will know what the effects will be just like they know what the effects of these new vaccines will be in a few decades on the next generation. They already moved their pieces accordingly to profit from the effects as well. Now they are cashing in on the process. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCxx47:

    Holy fuck, I can not believe someone made this thread and actually wrote that much about it. The reason the stadiums are packed with fans is because of the vaccine you unbelievable idiot. I work in research at a top 5 hospital in the world and I can not wait to show my Co workers what you wrote so we can laugh our asses off. Holy fuck lmao I'm dying bro. The sheer stupidity of people is unreal

     

    You and your coworkers have been brain washed by pharma influencers. They took control of most education system and especially the medical side. Once upon at time dudes like Rockefeller, jp morgan and few others got flithy rich and they wanted to stay rich and keep control of the population and the government. One fine advisor told them that if you want to do that, fund the major wars. So they funded the major wars of world war 1 and world war 2 and usa became super power and these dudes became even more powerful and filthy rich. But it killed millions of men from the west, almost all white men and left home many widows and orphans...this is not good news for a consumerism economy where they can enslave the population. So they regrouped with the fine advisor and the advisor said, well if you want to do it without casualities, you guys have to take control of the education system but it is a much longer process that requires patience. And over the decades they have hijacked the education system, primarily the medical school. Almost all the non infectious diseses like heart disease, diabetes, lung disease etc sky rocketed after this happened because they produce all kinds of fake studies to push stuff then later its oops. Its like those 0 fat diet, studies for pain killers and many other medicines. They very will know what the effects will be just like they know what the effects of these new vaccines will be in a few decades on the next generation. They already moved their pieces accordingly to profit from the effects as well. Now they are cashing in on the process. 

     
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    Italy banned astra Zeneca shot for people under 60, after an 18 year old girl died from the vaccine. Fact 

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    Anyways, who is taking the Clippers/Jazz? Why did the line jump from 3 to 8?

     

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    Anyways, who is taking the Clippers/Jazz? Why did the line jump from 3 to 8?

     

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     Thisthumbs_up. The high courts of Austria Portugal and Germany have now ruled the pcr test is inadmissible in court. It's basically the lie detector test of the medical field. It tells you something but what that something is know one can agree on. The sad thing is it's been used to absolutely decimate economies as well as children's education people's religious freedoms cancer treatments etc etc.

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     Thisthumbs_up. The high courts of Austria Portugal and Germany have now ruled the pcr test is inadmissible in court. It's basically the lie detector test of the medical field. It tells you something but what that something is know one can agree on. The sad thing is it's been used to absolutely decimate economies as well as children's education people's religious freedoms cancer treatments etc etc.

     
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     They did the same thing with oxycontin. Big pharma was assuring doctors it was perfectly safe and non habit forming. Doctors were prescribing it to 16 yr Olds with sprained ankles. Now you have a entire generation addicted to opiods who many not all but many started the addiction with the help of their doctors. Absolutely sickening. 

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     They did the same thing with oxycontin. Big pharma was assuring doctors it was perfectly safe and non habit forming. Doctors were prescribing it to 16 yr Olds with sprained ankles. Now you have a entire generation addicted to opiods who many not all but many started the addiction with the help of their doctors. Absolutely sickening. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people.
    if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people.
    if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DialedCaper7:

    Italy banned astra Zeneca shot for people under 60, after an 18 year old girl died from the vaccine. Fact
    16,000 americans die from ibuprofen a year with 100k hospitalized. Whats your point?

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    Italy banned astra Zeneca shot for people under 60, after an 18 year old girl died from the vaccine. Fact
    16,000 americans die from ibuprofen a year with 100k hospitalized. Whats your point?

     
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    Public is fully unaware of how pcr tests works. Now even if you search on google you won't find anything reliable because the real medical info doesn't come up. instead you will sea opinion pieces from health organizations and msm. PCR test is very simple. It is reliable in what it does, detect the dna particle load of whatever you are looking for. When you search for virus like influenza or sarscov2, it will do a good job detecting the virus load. In the equation ct cycle is the exponent. The higher cycle you run to detec the virus less dna material. Ideal cycle threshold to detect infection is around 24 to 28. In some cases they can bump it up to as high as 32 if the virus is new just to be safe but at 32 cycles there will be very false positive because the pcr test will also detect inactive/dead dna particle of the virus at higher cycles. 

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    Public is fully unaware of how pcr tests works. Now even if you search on google you won't find anything reliable because the real medical info doesn't come up. instead you will sea opinion pieces from health organizations and msm. PCR test is very simple. It is reliable in what it does, detect the dna particle load of whatever you are looking for. When you search for virus like influenza or sarscov2, it will do a good job detecting the virus load. In the equation ct cycle is the exponent. The higher cycle you run to detec the virus less dna material. Ideal cycle threshold to detect infection is around 24 to 28. In some cases they can bump it up to as high as 32 if the virus is new just to be safe but at 32 cycles there will be very false positive because the pcr test will also detect inactive/dead dna particle of the virus at higher cycles. 

     
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    The cases and hospitalizations are not consistent in every place. The places where they run the test at higher threshold will have the worse outcome because not only it gives more positive tests but allows you to categorize many deaths as covid death due to testing positive. That is okay but what is worse and criminal is that there are covid protocols that are in place in the health system which interferes with the sick (other causes) population. They cannot get proper care for there illness or medication on timely manner. If you run the tests at 40 cycles many of the sick (other causes) will test positive and their treatment/medication will for other cause will be delayed...this will naturally increase hospitalization and these people get worse. Putting them in covid ward is pretty much a death sentence. If you run the test at high cycle in nursing homes it is also death sentence because you isolote positve cases in the covid section where they will actually get the virus from someone who actually has and get worse. This happened all over the nursing homes in covid high countries. End of life care is not given the tradition way if you test positive, you are basically left to lvie instead of getting the necessary medications when you are at end of life care.  There is a political and economic reason to play the covid game. The countries that didn't play the covid game in the first wave are now playing the game ebcause the need to keep up with the economic policies. With in usa, take a look at the difference in situations between states....states like cali and ny were doing the tests at much higher cycle others. There is no standard cycle to run so they can do whatever they want. interestingly for covid they passed rule in testing and that is there is no need to record the ct cycle information of each test...this is one of the biggest bullshit ever. this how they get away with running high tests. some states have made it a requirement as of november but some still havent. IN canada for example, it wasn't required until november but as of november it is requierd only if the test is ran at 36 or higher cycles. 36 or higher cycle positive test is meaningless. Even 32 to 35 is mostly meaningless so they can still get lot of positive results if they want. In india they were campaigning to increase the ct cycle from high of 32 to 45 and they got it done. As soon as they did that, things got worse.  Some brain washed health professional such as front line workers, nurses, doctors love to talk about experts and science...even someone here claimed that he can't wait to tell his co-workers...well my advise to you is to go to your hospital and try to find out the ct threshold of all the tests. 1. you will get a lot of backlash from higher ups. 2. even if you let you, it will be vague and will not be properly recorded and you won't be able to find. 3. if you find it and if your hospital is overrun with covid cases and and as well as overcrowded icu, i will bet all my money that the avg threhold of the test in your hospital is over 35!

    If you test influenza at the same cycle and did the same protocols we would have a massive influenza pandemic instead of covid pandemic now. 

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    The cases and hospitalizations are not consistent in every place. The places where they run the test at higher threshold will have the worse outcome because not only it gives more positive tests but allows you to categorize many deaths as covid death due to testing positive. That is okay but what is worse and criminal is that there are covid protocols that are in place in the health system which interferes with the sick (other causes) population. They cannot get proper care for there illness or medication on timely manner. If you run the tests at 40 cycles many of the sick (other causes) will test positive and their treatment/medication will for other cause will be delayed...this will naturally increase hospitalization and these people get worse. Putting them in covid ward is pretty much a death sentence. If you run the test at high cycle in nursing homes it is also death sentence because you isolote positve cases in the covid section where they will actually get the virus from someone who actually has and get worse. This happened all over the nursing homes in covid high countries. End of life care is not given the tradition way if you test positive, you are basically left to lvie instead of getting the necessary medications when you are at end of life care.  There is a political and economic reason to play the covid game. The countries that didn't play the covid game in the first wave are now playing the game ebcause the need to keep up with the economic policies. With in usa, take a look at the difference in situations between states....states like cali and ny were doing the tests at much higher cycle others. There is no standard cycle to run so they can do whatever they want. interestingly for covid they passed rule in testing and that is there is no need to record the ct cycle information of each test...this is one of the biggest bullshit ever. this how they get away with running high tests. some states have made it a requirement as of november but some still havent. IN canada for example, it wasn't required until november but as of november it is requierd only if the test is ran at 36 or higher cycles. 36 or higher cycle positive test is meaningless. Even 32 to 35 is mostly meaningless so they can still get lot of positive results if they want. In india they were campaigning to increase the ct cycle from high of 32 to 45 and they got it done. As soon as they did that, things got worse.  Some brain washed health professional such as front line workers, nurses, doctors love to talk about experts and science...even someone here claimed that he can't wait to tell his co-workers...well my advise to you is to go to your hospital and try to find out the ct threshold of all the tests. 1. you will get a lot of backlash from higher ups. 2. even if you let you, it will be vague and will not be properly recorded and you won't be able to find. 3. if you find it and if your hospital is overrun with covid cases and and as well as overcrowded icu, i will bet all my money that the avg threhold of the test in your hospital is over 35!

    If you test influenza at the same cycle and did the same protocols we would have a massive influenza pandemic instead of covid pandemic now. 

     
     
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    You still haven't answered why lower vaccinated areas consistently have a higher case load and hospitalizations than more vaccinated areas within the last month

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