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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 7:26 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha)

    Because they fool the people. In vaccinated area they do the testing at normal ct threshold. Vaccine is not doing anything. If the cases/hospitalization are back to normal, it just means that they are doing the test at normal levels of 28 cycle or less threshold. Naturally cases will go down when you lower the threshold of the test. This means less "covid deaths" too. And sick people won't test positive and get their treatments on timely manner.   This is the main reason they made a special rule for this "pandemic" and not to record the ct threshold of each test. Before covid, antime they did pcr test for any infectioous disease, they always record the cycle at what the test was ran. 

    Oh and guess what all the vaccine trials were ran at....24 to 28 cycles. Now you can compare those results and cases to those to the public where the tests were absued and ran at 35+ cycles.

    It is very simple man. Find a doctor or doctor friend and try to get the avg cycle threshold of the tests at different period of time. LIke i said before, it is unlikely they will give the information even if it is available. Doctors who push the higher ups for this information will get pushed out of their career and labelled as conspiracy theorists or pseudo scientist. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha)

    Because they fool the people. In vaccinated area they do the testing at normal ct threshold. Vaccine is not doing anything. If the cases/hospitalization are back to normal, it just means that they are doing the test at normal levels of 28 cycle or less threshold. Naturally cases will go down when you lower the threshold of the test. This means less "covid deaths" too. And sick people won't test positive and get their treatments on timely manner.   This is the main reason they made a special rule for this "pandemic" and not to record the ct threshold of each test. Before covid, antime they did pcr test for any infectioous disease, they always record the cycle at what the test was ran. 

    Oh and guess what all the vaccine trials were ran at....24 to 28 cycles. Now you can compare those results and cases to those to the public where the tests were absued and ran at 35+ cycles.

    It is very simple man. Find a doctor or doctor friend and try to get the avg cycle threshold of the tests at different period of time. LIke i said before, it is unlikely they will give the information even if it is available. Doctors who push the higher ups for this information will get pushed out of their career and labelled as conspiracy theorists or pseudo scientist. 

     
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    Wasting your time OP many of these people have been programmed for over a year now.  they won’t question anything.

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    Wasting your time OP many of these people have been programmed for over a year now.  they won’t question anything.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 7:30 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: I think I may have spent too much time and logic responding to this guy you definitely have. good luck going forward with the mystery sauce...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: I think I may have spent too much time and logic responding to this guy you definitely have. good luck going forward with the mystery sauce...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha) Because they fool the people. In vaccinated area they do the testing at normal ct threshold. Vaccine is not doing anything. If the cases/hospitalization are back to normal, it just means that they are doing the test at normal levels of 28 cycle or less threshold. Naturally cases will go down when you lower the threshold of the test. This means less "covid deaths" too. And sick people won't test positive and get their treatments on timely manner.   This is the main reason they made a special rule for this "pandemic" and not to record the ct threshold of each test. Before covid, antime they did pcr test for any infectioous disease, they always record the cycle at what the test was ran.  Oh and guess what all the vaccine trials were ran at....24 to 28 cycles. Now you can compare those results and cases to those to the public where the tests were absued and ran at 35+ cycles.
    find me some real evidence of this rather than conjecture and I am game. A list of higher vaccinated areas that do lower pcr cycle levels and a list of lower vaccinated areas where the pcr cycle level is lower. If you can't then hush

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education. Vaccine is not curing hospital cases or deaths. It declined because in usa, most of the mission is already accomplished. CDC quitely lowered the tested threshold to normal ranges from insanely high and unacceptable levels of up to 45 ct cycles. PCR test results at over 32 cycles are meaningless and you are going to get many positive tests. Over 35 cycle is a joke. To put into perspective, flu is tested at an average cycle of under 28. This cycle number is an exponent so for each number it goes up it is not as simple as 1 number it goes up, its exponential since it is the exponent in the pcr test equation.  Testing at 35+ cycle means many will test positive including the dying population. Now if you get lot of positive cases and change the hospital protocols based on the positive results, lot of people with other causes will die because when they test positive they will go to covid section instead of getting treatment for their actual problem. In the covid section they will get worse and even catch covid from someone else. Keep in mind that one of the common side effect of any disease is fever. Now someone with fever from some other severe illness tests positive they will be treated as covid patient first. This is how you overload the icus and kill more people. if all testing sites and hospitals are doing this then it still doesn't explain the disparity in hospitalizations between lower and higher vaccinated areas. Thanks for the pcr info tho, actually appreciate that (if it is true of course haha) Because they fool the people. In vaccinated area they do the testing at normal ct threshold. Vaccine is not doing anything. If the cases/hospitalization are back to normal, it just means that they are doing the test at normal levels of 28 cycle or less threshold. Naturally cases will go down when you lower the threshold of the test. This means less "covid deaths" too. And sick people won't test positive and get their treatments on timely manner.   This is the main reason they made a special rule for this "pandemic" and not to record the ct threshold of each test. Before covid, antime they did pcr test for any infectioous disease, they always record the cycle at what the test was ran.  Oh and guess what all the vaccine trials were ran at....24 to 28 cycles. Now you can compare those results and cases to those to the public where the tests were absued and ran at 35+ cycles.
    find me some real evidence of this rather than conjecture and I am game. A list of higher vaccinated areas that do lower pcr cycle levels and a list of lower vaccinated areas where the pcr cycle level is lower. If you can't then hush

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education.
    don't believe everything they "educate" you with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    The vaccine made kyrie land and hurt his ankle? The vaccine made cp3 go on covid protocol? Honestly it is sad the amount of uneducated and non scientific minded people there are in the United states. Luckily Montgomery county Maryland is one of the most vaccinated large counties (I believe above 65% fully vaccinated). We have barely any covid deaths and little hospitalizations. Compare that to wyoming, idaho, missouri, and arkansas who all are vaccinated under 40%. Those 4 states are still seeing higher levels of cases and hospitalizations compared to my county yet where I am we are extremely high population density. So what gives?  If you really think a vial liquid meant to introduce our immune system to possible virus can change the anatomical strength and structure of our bodies you are truly lost and also had a poor education.
    don't believe everything they "educate" you with...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 7:34 PM ET #56

    also different viruses emerge at different rates in pcr cycles. comparing the flu to covid with pcr tests is apples to oranges.

    In college I did a single digit number pcr cycle for some virus and it was very present.  

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    also different viruses emerge at different rates in pcr cycles. comparing the flu to covid with pcr tests is apples to oranges.

    In college I did a single digit number pcr cycle for some virus and it was very present.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    You still haven't answered why lower vaccinated areas consistently have a higher case load and hospitalizations than more vaccinated areas within the last month
    I wouldn't trust any numbers you hear 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    You still haven't answered why lower vaccinated areas consistently have a higher case load and hospitalizations than more vaccinated areas within the last month
    I wouldn't trust any numbers you hear 

     
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    You can't because they won't release the details of the testing. You can only get positive or negative results. If you ask them at what cycle they did they test, they won't give it to you. You should be asking why they are hiding this information where as in the past this information is alwasy recorded and readily available. You can however find the ct thresholds of the vaccine trials because they have to present it to fda. However, most public are not even aware and wont' even bother to read it. You can find the details of the vaccine trials with the papers they released with the earning reports. I know for a fact that moderna used 24 to 28 cycle for the trials because I am an early investor and believer of moderna concept...not for this vaccine though. I still invested heavily on this company in 2020 march crash because i was tipped to ivnest in this company and novavax and moderna was something that i was already ivnested on. I doubled up in 2020 march because it was obvious that these stocks are going to fly with the brain washing that was happening and the policies that was getting in place. 

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    You can't because they won't release the details of the testing. You can only get positive or negative results. If you ask them at what cycle they did they test, they won't give it to you. You should be asking why they are hiding this information where as in the past this information is alwasy recorded and readily available. You can however find the ct thresholds of the vaccine trials because they have to present it to fda. However, most public are not even aware and wont' even bother to read it. You can find the details of the vaccine trials with the papers they released with the earning reports. I know for a fact that moderna used 24 to 28 cycle for the trials because I am an early investor and believer of moderna concept...not for this vaccine though. I still invested heavily on this company in 2020 march crash because i was tipped to ivnest in this company and novavax and moderna was something that i was already ivnested on. I doubled up in 2020 march because it was obvious that these stocks are going to fly with the brain washing that was happening and the policies that was getting in place. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: You still haven't answered why lower vaccinated areas consistently have a higher case load and hospitalizations than more vaccinated areas within the last monthI wouldn't trust any numbers you hear
    fair point, if the info is wrong I have little support. I can only debate on what I have gathered and corroborated. If they are all wrong  then I am as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss: You still haven't answered why lower vaccinated areas consistently have a higher case load and hospitalizations than more vaccinated areas within the last monthI wouldn't trust any numbers you hear
    fair point, if the info is wrong I have little support. I can only debate on what I have gathered and corroborated. If they are all wrong  then I am as well.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ausboss:

    also different viruses emerge at different rates in pcr cycles. comparing the flu to covid with pcr tests is apples to oranges. In college I did a single digit number pcr cycle for some virus and it was very present.

     

    There is a range of acceptable levels of cycles where you need to run the pcr test. For flu for example, acceptable level is 24 to 28. In some flu seasons if they want to push some new flu vaccine or sell surplus, they will slightly bump this threshold to 30 or even high as 32 to get a bad flu season to promote the vaccination. That is all business. This coronavirus is not far off from influenza virus and the acceptable levels are similar. This is why 24 to 28 cycle was used in the moderna vaccine trials. 

    But with covid its all a different level. At the beginning of the pandemic CDC set the high limit of 45 which was insane. Not until recently, after the vaccination process started, cdc quietly lowered this number to i believe 35 now which is still high. But different states will run at different levels. Once covid game is done playing, they will run it at avg 28 or lower cycle. if they still want to play they can run at at highest levels set by cdc. They reason they lowered the high limit is because people were catching on and questinoning things and now they are recording the ct threshold of each test but the information is still hard to get unless you are health professional or somoone with connections in the research department. 

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    also different viruses emerge at different rates in pcr cycles. comparing the flu to covid with pcr tests is apples to oranges. In college I did a single digit number pcr cycle for some virus and it was very present.

     

    There is a range of acceptable levels of cycles where you need to run the pcr test. For flu for example, acceptable level is 24 to 28. In some flu seasons if they want to push some new flu vaccine or sell surplus, they will slightly bump this threshold to 30 or even high as 32 to get a bad flu season to promote the vaccination. That is all business. This coronavirus is not far off from influenza virus and the acceptable levels are similar. This is why 24 to 28 cycle was used in the moderna vaccine trials. 

    But with covid its all a different level. At the beginning of the pandemic CDC set the high limit of 45 which was insane. Not until recently, after the vaccination process started, cdc quietly lowered this number to i believe 35 now which is still high. But different states will run at different levels. Once covid game is done playing, they will run it at avg 28 or lower cycle. if they still want to play they can run at at highest levels set by cdc. They reason they lowered the high limit is because people were catching on and questinoning things and now they are recording the ct threshold of each test but the information is still hard to get unless you are health professional or somoone with connections in the research department. 

     
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    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death. 

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    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death. 

     
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    Based on this discussion Unders seem like the play moving forward thank you!

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    Based on this discussion Unders seem like the play moving forward thank you!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightWagers:

    Based on this discussion Unders seem like the play moving forward thank you!

     

    note really. in modern nba, even role players can put up lot of numbers on any given day due to lack of defense and physicals game. plus lot depends on what kind of game the referees are going to allow.

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    Based on this discussion Unders seem like the play moving forward thank you!

     

    note really. in modern nba, even role players can put up lot of numbers on any given day due to lack of defense and physicals game. plus lot depends on what kind of game the referees are going to allow.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2021 - 7:55 PM ET #64

    Inventor of PCR test on Fauci...this from the 90's

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    Inventor of PCR test on Fauci...this from the 90's

     
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    Holy fuck, I can not believe someone made this thread and actually wrote that much about it. The reason the stadiums are packed with fans is because of the vaccine you unbelievable idiot. I work in research at a top 5 hospital in the world and I can not wait to show my Co workers what you wrote so we can laugh our asses off. Holy fuck lmao I'm dying bro. The sheer stupidity of people is unreal


    Quite the yarn the OP spun huh?

     

     

     

     

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    Holy fuck, I can not believe someone made this thread and actually wrote that much about it. The reason the stadiums are packed with fans is because of the vaccine you unbelievable idiot. I work in research at a top 5 hospital in the world and I can not wait to show my Co workers what you wrote so we can laugh our asses off. Holy fuck lmao I'm dying bro. The sheer stupidity of people is unreal


    Quite the yarn the OP spun huh?

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.

    You should look into that 

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.

    You should look into that 

     
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    I heard that if you take the J&J vaccine, one dose of the Moderna, and 3 doses of the Pfizer, it makes your heater grow 3 inches. It's in the New England Journal of Medicine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I heard that if you take the J&J vaccine, one dose of the Moderna, and 3 doses of the Pfizer, it makes your heater grow 3 inches. It's in the New England Journal of Medicine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.

     

    but why would all shi.t break loose??dead or alive he is going to be silenced..there are still plenty of people familiar with the process of pcr testing that can inform the public..we have a doctor down here,sam bailey,that independently puts out youtube videos explaining how suspicious/unreliable the testing method is and yet the "game" still continues here and worldwide...not sure if she still has a job by the way.

     

    pretty simple equation...a patient cured is a customer lost.keep the population perpetually dependent on all the potions and pills for their entire lives and laugh all the way to the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay:

    The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.

     

    but why would all shi.t break loose??dead or alive he is going to be silenced..there are still plenty of people familiar with the process of pcr testing that can inform the public..we have a doctor down here,sam bailey,that independently puts out youtube videos explaining how suspicious/unreliable the testing method is and yet the "game" still continues here and worldwide...not sure if she still has a job by the way.

     

    pretty simple equation...a patient cured is a customer lost.keep the population perpetually dependent on all the potions and pills for their entire lives and laugh all the way to the bank.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.   but why would all shi.t break loose??dead or alive he is going to be silenced..there are still plenty of people familiar with the process of pcr testing that can inform the public..we have a doctor down here,sam bailey,that independently puts out youtube videos explaining how suspicious/unreliable the testing method is and yet the "game" still continues here and worldwide...not sure if she still has a job by the way.   pretty simple equation...a patient cured is a customer lost.keep the population perpetually dependent on all the potions and pills for their entire lives and laugh all the way to the bank.

    Exactly. They dont want to cure anything. They only want to manage symptoms. Witch covid ppl are lining up thinking its going to be 2 and done shots. But i am 100% sure that they will say that you will need in yearly. The thing with this vaccine is that once you take it, you will most likely need it in the future to fight future variants because by taking the vaccine, you "disabled" your immune system to fight naturally and be prepared in the future. This is one of teh main reason this shouldn't be forced on young and the healthy...even if you are old and healthy, you don't need it. The problem in countries like usa is that most are unhealthy and by 40 they are on a cocktail of medications. 

    In many countries non alcoholic sclerosis (Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease) is going up the roof with usa leading the way. Alcohol abuse was the main cause before. Now the so called main stream health experts who are in influenced by big pharma are claiming that the cause is unkown and the risk factors Risk factors include obesity, gastric bypass surgery, high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes. Public and those with NAFLD believe these experts. But anyone with basic knowledge of non alcoholic sclerosis can easily put together the cause. The cause is over medication. Just like chemicals in alchocol needs to filter through the liver, all the medication you consume gets broken down the liver too and long term abuse will get the same result that alcohol will get you. These bastard experts are trying to diver that medicatoin as reason and say that obesity, high cholesterol, diabetes etc as the risk factor...ofcourse because those people are taking cocktail of medications to keep the symptoms under control instead of curing the issue. 

    If you are sick with chornic issue, do yourself a favor and find an ayurvedic clinic. In usa they are growing rapidly now and most of the billionaires use it while the public gets heavily overpriced healthcare that makes them even more sick. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryBlueJay: The guy who invented the pcr test is a long time vocal opponent of fauci. He conveniently died of mysterious pneumonia in late 2019 right before the pandemic. If he was alive all shit would break lose. I wonder if their was foul play in his death.   but why would all shi.t break loose??dead or alive he is going to be silenced..there are still plenty of people familiar with the process of pcr testing that can inform the public..we have a doctor down here,sam bailey,that independently puts out youtube videos explaining how suspicious/unreliable the testing method is and yet the "game" still continues here and worldwide...not sure if she still has a job by the way.   pretty simple equation...a patient cured is a customer lost.keep the population perpetually dependent on all the potions and pills for their entire lives and laugh all the way to the bank.

    Exactly. They dont want to cure anything. They only want to manage symptoms. Witch covid ppl are lining up thinking its going to be 2 and done shots. But i am 100% sure that they will say that you will need in yearly. The thing with this vaccine is that once you take it, you will most likely need it in the future to fight future variants because by taking the vaccine, you "disabled" your immune system to fight naturally and be prepared in the future. This is one of teh main reason this shouldn't be forced on young and the healthy...even if you are old and healthy, you don't need it. The problem in countries like usa is that most are unhealthy and by 40 they are on a cocktail of medications. 

    In many countries non alcoholic sclerosis (Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease) is going up the roof with usa leading the way. Alcohol abuse was the main cause before. Now the so called main stream health experts who are in influenced by big pharma are claiming that the cause is unkown and the risk factors Risk factors include obesity, gastric bypass surgery, high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes. Public and those with NAFLD believe these experts. But anyone with basic knowledge of non alcoholic sclerosis can easily put together the cause. The cause is over medication. Just like chemicals in alchocol needs to filter through the liver, all the medication you consume gets broken down the liver too and long term abuse will get the same result that alcohol will get you. These bastard experts are trying to diver that medicatoin as reason and say that obesity, high cholesterol, diabetes etc as the risk factor...ofcourse because those people are taking cocktail of medications to keep the symptoms under control instead of curing the issue. 

    If you are sick with chornic issue, do yourself a favor and find an ayurvedic clinic. In usa they are growing rapidly now and most of the billionaires use it while the public gets heavily overpriced healthcare that makes them even more sick. 

     
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     They got injured because they did not vote for the right president ??

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     Can you even avoid the vaccine?  I’m in Toronto and with the way things are shaping up it seems like you’ll neeed to be vaccinated to travel, employment,school..

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     Can you even avoid the vaccine?  I’m in Toronto and with the way things are shaping up it seems like you’ll neeed to be vaccinated to travel, employment,school..

     
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     Where did you get this info? Is this just the Usa or worldwide? Do we even know what a hospitalization even is? Is it an overnight stay? Is it someone who comes in with a sore throat and are diagnosed with covid based on symptoms or an unreliable pcr test and sent home with aspirin? What's the age of the populations are they in rural areas or dense areas whats the physical health of the certain areas? Correlation doesn't equal causation. If there is a wide discrepancy I'd like to look at it. That would mean the vaccines are effective at keeping people from being hospitalized which is a good thing.

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     Where did you get this info? Is this just the Usa or worldwide? Do we even know what a hospitalization even is? Is it an overnight stay? Is it someone who comes in with a sore throat and are diagnosed with covid based on symptoms or an unreliable pcr test and sent home with aspirin? What's the age of the populations are they in rural areas or dense areas whats the physical health of the certain areas? Correlation doesn't equal causation. If there is a wide discrepancy I'd like to look at it. That would mean the vaccines are effective at keeping people from being hospitalized which is a good thing.

     
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     Absolutely you can! I'm Canadian and won't be going near it. If you want to take it that's your choice but take it with all information about what it is. And definitely don't just take it because you think you have to to be able to regain freedom. 

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     Absolutely you can! I'm Canadian and won't be going near it. If you want to take it that's your choice but take it with all information about what it is. And definitely don't just take it because you think you have to to be able to regain freedom. 

     
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    I'm curious about 1 thing. Did all these athletes get the vaccine? Joe Biden said he got it, but what if it was only a B12 shot or something else. I got the Fizer vaccine and after the first I got a little light headed and some body aches. The second I got nauseous for a couple of days with some body aches. Since then (5/5 I got the second shot) I've been OK. The only reason I even got the shot is because my wife is from the Philippines and eventually to travel you're going to have to show you've been vaccinated to travel.

    I just can't believe this vaccine is causing injuries. No scientific proof. Also the government wants us to trust the science. new_laugh_cry I don't trust the government.

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    I'm curious about 1 thing. Did all these athletes get the vaccine? Joe Biden said he got it, but what if it was only a B12 shot or something else. I got the Fizer vaccine and after the first I got a little light headed and some body aches. The second I got nauseous for a couple of days with some body aches. Since then (5/5 I got the second shot) I've been OK. The only reason I even got the shot is because my wife is from the Philippines and eventually to travel you're going to have to show you've been vaccinated to travel.

    I just can't believe this vaccine is causing injuries. No scientific proof. Also the government wants us to trust the science. new_laugh_cry I don't trust the government.

     
     
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    What i do is i buy Pampers diapers and strap that to my face with duct tape. I won't take any chances. Everywhere i go, I must sure its on nice and tight, and the harder it is for me to breathe, the safer I feel.

    I also like the fact that the va.c.cine is developed by entities we don't know, with ingredients that we do not know, and if there are severe side effects, we cannot sue. THis sounds very good.

    I'm thinking about getting my dose tomorrow. Oh man, I'm gonna feel so armored, like i can jump off a building and it won't hurt me. THose who run this world, they just love us so much. WHy would anyone even questions taking the shot? There is no reason. It's safe. How do we know it is? Because they said so, so don't ever question it. Dont you dare.

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    What i do is i buy Pampers diapers and strap that to my face with duct tape. I won't take any chances. Everywhere i go, I must sure its on nice and tight, and the harder it is for me to breathe, the safer I feel.

    I also like the fact that the va.c.cine is developed by entities we don't know, with ingredients that we do not know, and if there are severe side effects, we cannot sue. THis sounds very good.

    I'm thinking about getting my dose tomorrow. Oh man, I'm gonna feel so armored, like i can jump off a building and it won't hurt me. THose who run this world, they just love us so much. WHy would anyone even questions taking the shot? There is no reason. It's safe. How do we know it is? Because they said so, so don't ever question it. Dont you dare.

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