Looking at data from Worldometers, from Sept 1 to Feb 1 of this year the 5 largest mask mandated states, Oregon, Washington, California, Illinois, and New York had a combined higher amount of covid cases per 100,000 than the rest of the nation did during those 5 months. (those 5 states were under mask mandates along with vaccine passport mandates during the entire 5 months)
Oregon did the best followed by Washington. Neighboring state Idaho had some local mandates but not a state mandate and ended up between Oregon and Washington in cases per 100,000 suggesting that region of the country faired better overall.
So if masks so effective, why doesn't the data prove it???
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Looking at data from Worldometers, from Sept 1 to Feb 1 of this year the 5 largest mask mandated states, Oregon, Washington, California, Illinois, and New York had a combined higher amount of covid cases per 100,000 than the rest of the nation did during those 5 months. (those 5 states were under mask mandates along with vaccine passport mandates during the entire 5 months)
Oregon did the best followed by Washington. Neighboring state Idaho had some local mandates but not a state mandate and ended up between Oregon and Washington in cases per 100,000 suggesting that region of the country faired better overall.
So if masks so effective, why doesn't the data prove it???
More evidences from two studies clearly show universal mask wearing significantly reduces virus spread according to Education week. In Center for disease control report, Arkansas schools with mask mandates have 23% lower virus spread than schools without mandates from August to October 2021. Pediatrics journal reveal results of Duke university research on mask policies and infection rates in over 3000 schools of 9 states from July to December 2021. Schools with mask mandates saw 72% fewer infections than schools with no mask requirements.
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More evidences from two studies clearly show universal mask wearing significantly reduces virus spread according to Education week. In Center for disease control report, Arkansas schools with mask mandates have 23% lower virus spread than schools without mandates from August to October 2021. Pediatrics journal reveal results of Duke university research on mask policies and infection rates in over 3000 schools of 9 states from July to December 2021. Schools with mask mandates saw 72% fewer infections than schools with no mask requirements.
More evidences from two studies clearly show universal mask wearing significantly reduces virus spread according to Education week. In Center for disease control report, Arkansas schools with mask mandates have 23% lower virus spread than schools without mandates from August to October 2021. Pediatrics journal reveal results of Duke university research on mask policies and infection rates in over 3000 schools of 9 states from July to December 2021. Schools with mask mandates saw 72% fewer infections than schools with no mask requirements.
They why in the hell doesn't that 72% reflect in those 5 states Iisted? VAGUE STUDY. WHEN AND WHERE!!
My numbers cover 82 million mask mandated people vs 250 million mostly non- mask mandated people over a period of 153 days!!!!!
What schools, when and where? Was it Florida nonmask schools during Florida's August peak vs California masked schools? Oh look California cases took off December 24th, damn we just ended the study. That is how they go.
HOW ABOUT WHAT THE WALLSTREET JOURNAL SAID ABOUT DUKE STUDY;
More evidences from two studies clearly show universal mask wearing significantly reduces virus spread according to Education week. In Center for disease control report, Arkansas schools with mask mandates have 23% lower virus spread than schools without mandates from August to October 2021. Pediatrics journal reveal results of Duke university research on mask policies and infection rates in over 3000 schools of 9 states from July to December 2021. Schools with mask mandates saw 72% fewer infections than schools with no mask requirements.
They why in the hell doesn't that 72% reflect in those 5 states Iisted? VAGUE STUDY. WHEN AND WHERE!!
My numbers cover 82 million mask mandated people vs 250 million mostly non- mask mandated people over a period of 153 days!!!!!
What schools, when and where? Was it Florida nonmask schools during Florida's August peak vs California masked schools? Oh look California cases took off December 24th, damn we just ended the study. That is how they go.
HOW ABOUT WHAT THE WALLSTREET JOURNAL SAID ABOUT DUKE STUDY;
Amazing, just finished analyzing that Minnesota data some more!
Remember all those " your 20 times more likely if unvaccinated, 11 times more likely", etc???
Well there WAS some truth to that....way back.
In May in Minnesota you were 20.3 times more likely to get COVID if you were unvaccinated. 41.7 more likely to die if unvaccinated!, 13.2 times more likely to be hospitalized!!! WOW!
Then in June Delta came along. Suddenly it was 6.5 times more likely to catch covid, 3.8 times more likely to die. WOW, from 41.7 to 3.8!!!! 5.4 times likely to be hospitalized if unvaxed.
These numbers steadily dropped to January, 2022, only 1.2 times likely to get covid if unvaxed, 1.3 times chances of dieing and 1.3 for hospitalizations.
The sad thing is our CDC and Whitehouse had to have known Delta was changing everything starting in June, yet what did they do in late July? They said " pandemic of the unvaccinated", they showed data from pre-Delta to backup their claim. JOE said on July 21st, just two days after the UK announced 40% in their hospitals were the vaccinated, "Get the vaccine and you won't get covid, you won't go to the hospital, you will not die from covid."
THEY KNEW!!
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Amazing, just finished analyzing that Minnesota data some more!
Remember all those " your 20 times more likely if unvaccinated, 11 times more likely", etc???
Well there WAS some truth to that....way back.
In May in Minnesota you were 20.3 times more likely to get COVID if you were unvaccinated. 41.7 more likely to die if unvaccinated!, 13.2 times more likely to be hospitalized!!! WOW!
Then in June Delta came along. Suddenly it was 6.5 times more likely to catch covid, 3.8 times more likely to die. WOW, from 41.7 to 3.8!!!! 5.4 times likely to be hospitalized if unvaxed.
These numbers steadily dropped to January, 2022, only 1.2 times likely to get covid if unvaxed, 1.3 times chances of dieing and 1.3 for hospitalizations.
The sad thing is our CDC and Whitehouse had to have known Delta was changing everything starting in June, yet what did they do in late July? They said " pandemic of the unvaccinated", they showed data from pre-Delta to backup their claim. JOE said on July 21st, just two days after the UK announced 40% in their hospitals were the vaccinated, "Get the vaccine and you won't get covid, you won't go to the hospital, you will not die from covid."
Now the Duke study I referenced in the WSJ is not the same study as the 3000 school study but the WSJ calls out Duke for "slight of hand" manipulations!!
And Minnesota's covid cases and deaths dropped off in June and July then came back up in August and stayed above the 1000 cases 7- day avg til late February. That sudden drop from 41.7 times more likely to die from covid to 3.8 had maybe a little help from deaths falling just over a 100 in May to 20 in June. Never the less that rate kept falling every month, even when covid ramped back up in Minnesota.
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Now the Duke study I referenced in the WSJ is not the same study as the 3000 school study but the WSJ calls out Duke for "slight of hand" manipulations!!
And Minnesota's covid cases and deaths dropped off in June and July then came back up in August and stayed above the 1000 cases 7- day avg til late February. That sudden drop from 41.7 times more likely to die from covid to 3.8 had maybe a little help from deaths falling just over a 100 in May to 20 in June. Never the less that rate kept falling every month, even when covid ramped back up in Minnesota.
@UNIMAN Let me see if I understand your position.... You believe the vaccine works but you're against mandates, right? And you have been reporting on #'s but you believe they have been misreported from the get go or do you?
I have always stated the numbers on world- o- meter, our world in data, and minnesota's comprehensive week by week data are what we got. I trust the Minnesota data because it has where and when, how much, and for who, not vague attempts to cloud by saying since Jan 2021, etc, because Jan 2021 a hot month for covid with very little vaccinated!
Let me help you. The vaccine worked last May, now it is down to 0.2 times better than not getting the vaccine and not taking a chance on blood clots, allergic reactions, etc.
The risk outweighs the now meager benefits.
In Iceland the vaccinated and boosted have a 14- day incident of more cases for vaccinated children and adults than unvaccinated children and adults per 100,000 of each.
The virus has worked its way around the vaccine!!!
The once useful vaccine was weakened by Delta and now blown by with Omicron. As I said before, " outlived it's usefulness". I will not get boosted!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@UNIMAN Let me see if I understand your position.... You believe the vaccine works but you're against mandates, right? And you have been reporting on #'s but you believe they have been misreported from the get go or do you?
I have always stated the numbers on world- o- meter, our world in data, and minnesota's comprehensive week by week data are what we got. I trust the Minnesota data because it has where and when, how much, and for who, not vague attempts to cloud by saying since Jan 2021, etc, because Jan 2021 a hot month for covid with very little vaccinated!
Let me help you. The vaccine worked last May, now it is down to 0.2 times better than not getting the vaccine and not taking a chance on blood clots, allergic reactions, etc.
The risk outweighs the now meager benefits.
In Iceland the vaccinated and boosted have a 14- day incident of more cases for vaccinated children and adults than unvaccinated children and adults per 100,000 of each.
The virus has worked its way around the vaccine!!!
The once useful vaccine was weakened by Delta and now blown by with Omicron. As I said before, " outlived it's usefulness". I will not get boosted!
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(those 5 states were under mask mandates along with vaccine passport mandates during the entire 5 months)
That is how they go.
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