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Posted: #176

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: It would be kind of silly to say that every time we give an opinion. Not very good for engagement either.  

 

 

Oh, it would be silly? It's not silly to vehemently make statements of opinion as if they are fact, even in some cases when the speaker of said statement knows it to be false? It's silly to say, "...this is my opinion." Not good for engagement. Doesn't hit as hard. Do you ever think that maybe statements need to hit less hard. Wouldn't that be better for engagement? For discourse. I guess if the goal is just to rile people up...

Word  an_clap

 
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Fubah, 

From now on you must say “this is my opinion”. You’re one of the biggest violators of Stu’s new rule in the history of covers inc. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

“Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what  we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

Was she spewing hate and were her comments racist or is that just Victoria Steele’s opinion? 

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Posted: #179

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Fubah,  From now on you must say “this is my opinion”. You’re one of the biggest violators of Stu’s new rule in the history of covers inc.

 

I_REALLY_Need_A_Detox, from now on you must go back to the penalty box and stay there where you belong.

 
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Posted: #180

Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

Radical extreme right wing groups which includes the New American Nazi Party, fascists, skinheads, and the KKK have been given legitimacy by a certain former President...

Lets go post by post. 

Post number 1. 

Did Donald Trump really give legitimacy to the KKK, skinheads and New American Nazi Party or is that just an opinion? 

 
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Posted: #181

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

I_REALLY_Need_A_Detox, from now on you must go back to the penalty box and stay there where you belong.

That is an opinion but you didn’t clearly specify that it was an opinion. 

Why? 

 
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Posted: #182

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Fubah,  From now on you must say “this is my opinion”. You’re one of the biggest violators of Stu’s new rule in the history of covers inc.  

 

 

 

I_REALLY_Need_A_Detox, from now on you must go back to the penalty box and stay there where you belong.

 

uh ,  it is my opinion that your idea is a good one

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an_police   Racist MAGA Lawmaker
Now Under Investigation
for Claiming Buffalo Shooting
Was a False Flag

 

Rolling Stone -

The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent.

The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe.


“Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what
 we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said.

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shes a racist 

 

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Posted: #184

Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

shes a racist

 

Why is she a racist? 

Do you have the ability to give more detail?  

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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:   Racist MAGA Lawmaker Now Under Investigation for Claiming Buffalo Shooting Was a False Flag   Rolling Stone - The Arizona state Senate launched an ethics investigation into Wendy Rogers after the racist, far-right state lawmaker falsely suggested the mass shooting in Buffalo last Saturday was carried out by a government agent. The Arizona Senate, which is controlled by Republicans, voted 24 to 3 to launch an investigation into the comment. Rogers herself and two of her GOP accomplicess, Warren Petersen and Kelly Townsend, were the only three to vote against the probe. “Spewing hate and furthering racist comments is not what  we should be here for,”  Senator Victoria Steele said. .

shes a racist

Obviously

 

 

 

 
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Posted: #186

Blindly yelling that someone is a racist without the ability to back up such a claim is reason #108 there will be a red wave this election. 

 

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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: @UNIMAN 'And I also find it narrow minded to blame lax gun laws for suicidal mass killings. It no doubt did make it easier. Just as many guns per person now as there were in the 70's. School shootings were never on my mind as a young student in the 70's, why now? We can limit magazines and ban assault rifles and killings will still continue." This seems to be a talking point for gun supporting conservative Republicans, which frustrates the masses. Why is the assumption that banning assault rifles and limiting magazines will achieve very little or nothing? How do we know this since it has not been attempted in this country? There are cases in other countries, which such a strategy has been effective in reducing gun violence and mass shootings. Why would it be any different in the U.S.? Shouldn't elected officials be trying any option that could work? Why just brush any of the alternatives aside?   What percent of homicides come from assault rifles? There’s your answer assuming the people that wanted to kill with assault rifles just forget about killing because they can’t get an assault rifle.  <2%

 

What percent of mass shootings come from assault rifles? Do a little research. As of November 2020, it was about 8 times more than 2%. 

What percent of school mass shootings involve assault rifles? 

Keep pushing you narratives though. do you. Tell me more about gun violence in Chicago though and "blue cities". That seems to be your favorite deflection strategy. an_light

 
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Posted: #188

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Blindly yelling that someone is a racist without the ability to back up such a claim is reason #108 there will be a red wave this election.

 

cool I hope there is a red wave!!! an_cheers   I expect to be betting very *HEAVILY* on it with real money, as I watch for any October surprises that may put my $$$ investment at serious risk.

Historically the  party in the White House loses "bigly" every time a new president takes office, at the first mid-term.  Strong trend!  This mid-term will be no exception. Virtually ALWAYS happens.....might as well make money off it, I say! thumbs_up

I expect to profit "bigly" (pending the odds),  just like I did betting AGAINST "adolf" trump in 2020!!!

I have stated all this numerous times on this forum going all the way back to summer 2020.

Of course with a Dem in the Wh to veto any far right, neo-fascist legislation, it just won't make a significant difference.   The real difference will be in 2024.  Those who successfully completed at least the 12th grade fully understand all this....

 

 
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Posted: #189

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: @UNIMAN 'And I also find it narrow minded to blame lax gun laws for suicidal mass killings. It no doubt did make it easier. Just as many guns per person now as there were in the 70's. School shootings were never on my mind as a young student in the 70's, why now? We can limit magazines and ban assault rifles and killings will still continue." This seems to be a talking point for gun supporting conservative Republicans, which frustrates the masses. Why is the assumption that banning assault rifles and limiting magazines will achieve very little or nothing? How do we know this since it has not been attempted in this country? There are cases in other countries, which such a strategy has been effective in reducing gun violence and mass shootings. Why would it be any different in the U.S.? Shouldn't elected officials be trying any option that could work? Why just brush any of the alternatives aside?   What percent of homicides come from assault rifles? There’s your answer assuming the people that wanted to kill with assault rifles just forget about killing because they can’t get an assault rifle.  <2%   What percent of mass shootings come from assault rifles? Do a little research. As of November 2020, it was about 8 times more than 2%.  What percent of school mass shootings involve assault rifles?  Keep pushing you narratives though. do you. Tell me more about gun violence in Chicago though and "blue cities". That seems to be your favorite deflection strategy.

Why don’t you talk about the other 98% of gun homicides in the US? 

If you solve the 2% problem — then what? 

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Posted: #190

@fubah2

Fubah- I hope there is a red wave!!! an_cheers

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: @UNIMAN 'And I also find it narrow minded to blame lax gun laws for suicidal mass killings. It no doubt did make it easier. Just as many guns per person now as there were in the 70's. School shootings were never on my mind as a young student in the 70's, why now? We can limit magazines and ban assault rifles and killings will still continue." This seems to be a talking point for gun supporting conservative Republicans, which frustrates the masses. Why is the assumption that banning assault rifles and limiting magazines will achieve very little or nothing? How do we know this since it has not been attempted in this country? There are cases in other countries, which such a strategy has been effective in reducing gun violence and mass shootings. Why would it be any different in the U.S.? Shouldn't elected officials be trying any option that could work? Why just brush any of the alternatives aside?   What percent of homicides come from assault rifles? There’s your answer assuming the people that wanted to kill with assault rifles just forget about killing because they can’t get an assault rifle.  <2%   What percent of mass shootings come from assault rifles? Do a little research. As of November 2020, it was about 8 times more than 2%.  What percent of school mass shootings involve assault rifles?  Keep pushing you narratives though. do you. Tell me more about gun violence in Chicago though and "blue cities". That seems to be your favorite deflection strategy. Why don’t you talk about the other 98% of gun homicides in the US?  If you solve the 2% problem — then what?

 

Deezy doesn't care about those people.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Blindly yelling that someone is a racist without the ability to back up such a claim is reason #108 there will be a red wave this election.  

 

cool I hope there is a red wave!!! an_cheers   I expect to be betting very *HEAVILY* on it with real money, as I watch for any October surprises that may put my $$$ investment at serious risk.

Historically the  party in the White House loses "bigly" every time a new president takes office, at the first mid-term.  Strong trend!  This mid-term will be no exception. Virtually ALWAYS happens.....might as well make money off it, I say! thumbs_up

I expect to profit "bigly" (pending the odds),  just like I did betting AGAINST "adolf" trump in 2020!!!

I have stated all this numerous times on this forum going all the way back to summer 2020.

Of course with a Dem in the Wh to veto any far right, neo-fascist legislation, it just won't make a significant difference.  

The real difference will be in 2024.  Those who successfully completed at least the 12th grade fully understand all this....

i am with ya  brother an_cheers

big bucks coming in december an_happydude

 

 

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The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 and injured 17 with two handguns, one of which had a 10-round magazine and the other a 15-round magazine. He simply brought 19 extra magazines.

Virtue signaling and knee-jerk reactions rooted in emotion will not solve any problems. 

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: @UNIMAN 'And I also find it narrow minded to blame lax gun laws for suicidal mass killings. It no doubt did make it easier. Just as many guns per person now as there were in the 70's. School shootings were never on my mind as a young student in the 70's, why now? We can limit magazines and ban assault rifles and killings will still continue." This seems to be a talking point for gun supporting conservative Republicans, which frustrates the masses. Why is the assumption that banning assault rifles and limiting magazines will achieve very little or nothing? How do we know this since it has not been attempted in this country? There are cases in other countries, which such a strategy has been effective in reducing gun violence and mass shootings. Why would it be any different in the U.S.? Shouldn't elected officials be trying any option that could work? Why just brush any of the alternatives aside?   What percent of homicides come from assault rifles? There’s your answer assuming the people that wanted to kill with assault rifles just forget about killing because they can’t get an assault rifle.  <2%   What percent of mass shootings come from assault rifles? Do a little research. As of November 2020, it was about 8 times more than 2%.  What percent of school mass shootings involve assault rifles?  Keep pushing you narratives though. do you. Tell me more about gun violence in Chicago though and "blue cities". That seems to be your favorite deflection strategy. Why don’t you talk about the other 98% of gun homicides in the US?  If you solve the 2% problem — then what?

Well again you are dodging the issue. Over the last two weeks we have been actively discussing mass shootings and school shootings. You keep changing the topic to all gun homicides to suit your narrative and avoid the issue. an_light

Like I stated the use of assault rifles for mass shootings is much higher than 2%. It's closer to 20%. an_light

As for addressing all gun homicides since you keep bringing it up, I am in favor of taking many guns off of the street with sweeping gun reform legislation. an_light

 
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 and injured 17 with two handguns, one of which had a 10-round magazine and the other a 15-round magazine. He simply brought 19 extra magazines.Virtue signaling and knee-jerk reactions rooted in emotion will not solve any problems.

Nice. The guy brings up a mass shooting in a school in which a hand gun was used nearly 15 years ago to fit his narrative. 

You remember what year the mass shooting was at Virginia Tech? I'll help you (2007).

What about all the school shootings since then that involved assault rifles? Just going to skip over those?

I am form strict gun reform in general, so I am not sure what you are even arguing here. an_light

Are you trying to show me that guns aren't a problem? Because if you are, it's a major fail. an_light

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Blindly yelling that someone is a racist without the ability to back up such a claim is reason #108 there will be a red wave this election.     I hope there is a red wave!!!   I expect to be betting very *HEAVILY* on it with real money, as I watch for any October surprises that may put my $$$ investment at serious risk. Historically the  party in the White House loses "bigly" every time a new president takes office, at the first mid-term.  Strong trend!  This mid-term will be no exception. Virtually ALWAYS happens.....might as well make money off it, I say! I expect to profit "bigly" (pending the odds),  just like I did betting AGAINST "adolf" trump in 2020!!! I have stated all this numerous times on this forum going all the way back to summer 2020. Of course with a Dem in the Wh to veto any far right, neo-fascist legislation, it just won't make a significant difference.   The real difference will be in 2024.  Those who successfully completed at least the 12th grade fully understand all this....

i am with ya  brother an_cheers

big bucks coming in december an_happydude

Problem may be the odds.  It could be over 6 to 1 by then which will seriously hamper our profits

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

White 'replacement theory' fuels racist attacks ASSOCIATED PRESS -   WHO'S TALKING UP THIS THEORY? A study of five years' worth of Carlson's show by The New York Times found 400 instances where he talked about Democratic politicians and others seeking to force demographic change through immigration. Fox News defended the host, pointing to repeated statements that Carlson has made denouncing political violence of all kinds.

ASSOCIATED PRESS - continued ...


White 'replacement theory' fuels racist attacks

House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik's campaign committee was criticized last year for an advertisement that said “radical Democrats” were planning a “permanent election insurrection” by granting amnesty to undocumented immigrants who would create a permanent liberal majority in Washington.

Pitcavage says he's concerned about the message Carlson and supporters are sending:
“They actually introduce their ‘great replacement theory’
to a conservative audience in an easier-to-swallow pill."

 
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The Virginia Tech shooter killed 32 and injured 17 with two handguns, one of which had a 10-round magazine and the other a 15-round magazine. He simply brought 19 extra magazines.Virtue signaling and knee-jerk reactions rooted in emotion will not solve any problems. Nice. The guy brings up a mass shooting in a school in which a hand gun was used nearly 15 years ago to fit his narrative.  You remember what year the mass shooting was at Virginia Tech? I'll help you (2007). What about all the school shootings since then that involved assault rifles? Just going to skip over those? I am form strict gun reform in general, so I am not sure what you are even arguing here.  Are you trying to show me that guns aren't a problem? Because if you are, it's a major fail.

You just said yourself that only 20% (really 14%) of school shootings involve an assault rifle. It shouldn’t be hard to comprehend that I could find many examples. 

Is your problem with assault rifles or with guns? You’re not being very clear. 

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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

I am for strict gun reform in general.

Oh ok. So you’re just using the dead kids as an opportunity to present your argument? 

This is why Americans shouldn’t concede any rights. Because it doesn’t stop with the AR-15 being banned they want “strict gun reform in general”. 

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Please define “strict gun reform”. 

Don’t be bashful. Say exactly what you think. 

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