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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2023 - 10:50 PM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Looking at this derailment from a logical view; https://www.designnews.com/industry/rail-car-wheel-bearing-monitoring-spotlight Operator Norfolk Southern employs a system of hot box detectors on the Fort Wayne Line, where the accident happened. According to the Villanova Center for Analytics of Dynamic Systems, there are more than 6,000 wayside detectors in North America dedicated to identifying defective rail vehicle components, including wheels, bearings, and truck systems. Most of these wayside monitoring systems are hot-bearing detectors, the school says in its Rail Vehicle Diagnostics report. These trackside sensors use non-contact infrared temperature sensors to monitor the bearing housing temperature as rail vehicles pass by. When the bearing temperature exceeds a threshold (typically 220° F (105° C) above ambient) the system triggers an alert. Such a temperature buildup occurs only under severe faulty conditions, says Villanova. That was the case in this derailment, according to the NTSB. The board found that at milepost 79.9, the suspect bearing from the 23rd car had a recorded temperature of 38°F above ambient temperature. By milepost 69.01 when the train passed the next hot box detector, the bearing’s recorded temperature was 103°F above ambient. Twenty miles later while passing a third hot box detector, the suspect bearing’s temperature had rocketed to 253°F above ambient and the alarm sounded. Norfolk Southern’s HBD alarm thresholds (above ambient temperature) and criteria for bearings are: ?Between 170°F and 200°F, warm bearing (non-critical); stop and inspect A difference between bearings on the same axle greater than or equal to 115°F (non-critical); stop and inspect Greater than 200°F (critical); set out railcar   Great information mainstream media doesn't seem to report. Seems to me the bearing did not follow a typical failure pattern. It desintegrated more rapidly than expected. Am sure the National Rail Safety Regulator will study this accident and recommend changes to avert future failures such as this.

    I saw that same information on ABC and the Washington Post. Nice to know they aren’t the mainstream media lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Looking at this derailment from a logical view; https://www.designnews.com/industry/rail-car-wheel-bearing-monitoring-spotlight Operator Norfolk Southern employs a system of hot box detectors on the Fort Wayne Line, where the accident happened. According to the Villanova Center for Analytics of Dynamic Systems, there are more than 6,000 wayside detectors in North America dedicated to identifying defective rail vehicle components, including wheels, bearings, and truck systems. Most of these wayside monitoring systems are hot-bearing detectors, the school says in its Rail Vehicle Diagnostics report. These trackside sensors use non-contact infrared temperature sensors to monitor the bearing housing temperature as rail vehicles pass by. When the bearing temperature exceeds a threshold (typically 220° F (105° C) above ambient) the system triggers an alert. Such a temperature buildup occurs only under severe faulty conditions, says Villanova. That was the case in this derailment, according to the NTSB. The board found that at milepost 79.9, the suspect bearing from the 23rd car had a recorded temperature of 38°F above ambient temperature. By milepost 69.01 when the train passed the next hot box detector, the bearing’s recorded temperature was 103°F above ambient. Twenty miles later while passing a third hot box detector, the suspect bearing’s temperature had rocketed to 253°F above ambient and the alarm sounded. Norfolk Southern’s HBD alarm thresholds (above ambient temperature) and criteria for bearings are: ?Between 170°F and 200°F, warm bearing (non-critical); stop and inspect A difference between bearings on the same axle greater than or equal to 115°F (non-critical); stop and inspect Greater than 200°F (critical); set out railcar   Great information mainstream media doesn't seem to report. Seems to me the bearing did not follow a typical failure pattern. It desintegrated more rapidly than expected. Am sure the National Rail Safety Regulator will study this accident and recommend changes to avert future failures such as this.

    I saw that same information on ABC and the Washington Post. Nice to know they aren’t the mainstream media lol

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2023 - 9:03 AM ET #77

    @Sidehatch

     Obviously you skim through for misspellings and not much more. Try reading post #67.

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    @Sidehatch

     Obviously you skim through for misspellings and not much more. Try reading post #67.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2023 - 9:08 AM ET #78

    Speaking of which see the Washington Post has decided for once to tell the truth as their fact check says Trump Admin safety rule rollback had contributed nothing to this derailment. Guess losing subscribtions and money is giving them pause.

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    Speaking of which see the Washington Post has decided for once to tell the truth as their fact check says Trump Admin safety rule rollback had contributed nothing to this derailment. Guess losing subscribtions and money is giving them pause.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2023 - 11:30 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @Sidehatch  Obviously you skim through for misspellings and not much more. Try reading post #67.

    Obviously you skim through for low information angertainment conspiracy theories and repost them here. Try reading post deez nuts and stay off the 4 Chan bruh

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    @Sidehatch  Obviously you skim through for misspellings and not much more. Try reading post #67.

    Obviously you skim through for low information angertainment conspiracy theories and repost them here. Try reading post deez nuts and stay off the 4 Chan bruh

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2023 - 9:58 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  Tit for tat retaliation or validation is not the rules of the site. So yes if you see someone YELLING at another member using LARGE font, please report it and let the site take care of any recourse. I love how you try to correlate when you leave out the most critical aspects of my reply.  If in doubt about any rules being broken, report the event or send a PM. Did report it, about 5 times. I find it sickening that the same two constantly antagonize repeatedly. So I stay away. And yeah, I understand yelling at a specific person, so I guess using 36pt font bolded and repeatedly quoting in a thread something like "YEAH CRAZY INSANE LIBS" is just fine. Wouldn't that make this a great forum.

     

    an_popcorn  

    I remember I created a thread days before this one on the same situation...... I said it was a human being story and not a political story right from the start. 

    That thread was quickly boxed and this one created and allowed to grow to just another political infighting cesspool thread.  Strange huh.... 

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @UNIMAN  Tit for tat retaliation or validation is not the rules of the site. So yes if you see someone YELLING at another member using LARGE font, please report it and let the site take care of any recourse. I love how you try to correlate when you leave out the most critical aspects of my reply.  If in doubt about any rules being broken, report the event or send a PM. Did report it, about 5 times. I find it sickening that the same two constantly antagonize repeatedly. So I stay away. And yeah, I understand yelling at a specific person, so I guess using 36pt font bolded and repeatedly quoting in a thread something like "YEAH CRAZY INSANE LIBS" is just fine. Wouldn't that make this a great forum.

     

    an_popcorn  

    I remember I created a thread days before this one on the same situation...... I said it was a human being story and not a political story right from the start. 

    That thread was quickly boxed and this one created and allowed to grow to just another political infighting cesspool thread.  Strange huh.... 

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2023 - 2:05 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why does everything morph into a DEM vs REPUB retort with your side? My only point was that this train issue is not a political topic, when a FREE MARKET company screws up that is on the company, your side hates regulation and thinks the government has no place in the economy and especially to be involved with private companies. So when a public company craps on citizens, THEN it is blame the government time...sounds pretty stupid to me.  It’s because it’s feeble-minded groupthink. Anything outside of the right wing echo chamber and you’re a librul! Lol right Wall Street? Based on your other posts you and I both appear to be centrists, but the lunatic fringe right wing can’t have centrists hanging around, it destroys their rhetoric.

    an_clap

    I really like this post.  It reflects on the great disappointment that has been our societal decline from discussion and critical thinking.  The "group think echo chamber" is preyed upon by the uniparty politicians who are just creating distractions for infighting amongst the "two sides".  Both "sides" are equally guilty of operating just this.  

    Why identify yourself as a person by "democrat" or "republican".  Why only two sides?  Conservative minds can have liberal views in different arenas of life as can liberals have conservative views in different thought topics.  

    The problem with today's society is the radical shiitlibs and radical neocons leave ZERO room for any thought discussion outside their party platform, blind narrative swallowing BS.  Some people just want to live their lives and be told what to think, how to think and why to think it all while completely flushing reality and truths down the toilet.  Those people, who make up the majority of this cesspool sub, want nothing other than to advance the party narrative without any question. 

    If one questions something, anything, you are attacked immediately and labeled an anti-this or anti-that or worshiper, culter and worse.  It is the party of intolerance at the highest levels of intolerance....thought.  

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidehatch:

    @wallstreetcappers  Why does everything morph into a DEM vs REPUB retort with your side? My only point was that this train issue is not a political topic, when a FREE MARKET company screws up that is on the company, your side hates regulation and thinks the government has no place in the economy and especially to be involved with private companies. So when a public company craps on citizens, THEN it is blame the government time...sounds pretty stupid to me.  It’s because it’s feeble-minded groupthink. Anything outside of the right wing echo chamber and you’re a librul! Lol right Wall Street? Based on your other posts you and I both appear to be centrists, but the lunatic fringe right wing can’t have centrists hanging around, it destroys their rhetoric.

    an_clap

    I really like this post.  It reflects on the great disappointment that has been our societal decline from discussion and critical thinking.  The "group think echo chamber" is preyed upon by the uniparty politicians who are just creating distractions for infighting amongst the "two sides".  Both "sides" are equally guilty of operating just this.  

    Why identify yourself as a person by "democrat" or "republican".  Why only two sides?  Conservative minds can have liberal views in different arenas of life as can liberals have conservative views in different thought topics.  

    The problem with today's society is the radical shiitlibs and radical neocons leave ZERO room for any thought discussion outside their party platform, blind narrative swallowing BS.  Some people just want to live their lives and be told what to think, how to think and why to think it all while completely flushing reality and truths down the toilet.  Those people, who make up the majority of this cesspool sub, want nothing other than to advance the party narrative without any question. 

    If one questions something, anything, you are attacked immediately and labeled an anti-this or anti-that or worshiper, culter and worse.  It is the party of intolerance at the highest levels of intolerance....thought.  

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