special master has communicated to Trump’s legal team amid the investigation into classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago. 'You can lie on TV, but you can't lie in court'
In politics, Trump can get away with lying because his gullible supporters don't care. But in court, there are consequences for false statements. No evidence of FBI planting documents at Trump home as he claims. So requesting a special master appears to be backfiring since judge challenges Trump to prove his case.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
special master has communicated to Trump’s legal team amid the investigation into classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago. 'You can lie on TV, but you can't lie in court'
In politics, Trump can get away with lying because his gullible supporters don't care. But in court, there are consequences for false statements. No evidence of FBI planting documents at Trump home as he claims. So requesting a special master appears to be backfiring since judge challenges Trump to prove his case.
Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
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Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
Special master skeptical of Trump's declassification claims CNN — The special master overseeing the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation - fully approved by the Trump team - has ordered former President Donald Trump’s lawyers to back up assertions that the FBI may have planted evidence at the property during their search last month. On Wednesday night, Trump suggested that the FBI planted evidence during the search. He asked Fox News’ Sean Hannity, “Did they drop anything into those piles” of materials taken from Mar-a-Lago, “or did they do it later?”
not looking good for the bad guys
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Special master skeptical of Trump's declassification claims CNN — The special master overseeing the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation - fully approved by the Trump team - has ordered former President Donald Trump’s lawyers to back up assertions that the FBI may have planted evidence at the property during their search last month. On Wednesday night, Trump suggested that the FBI planted evidence during the search. He asked Fox News’ Sean Hannity, “Did they drop anything into those piles” of materials taken from Mar-a-Lago, “or did they do it later?”
Trump is a pathological liar.I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
No argument with that fact.
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
Trump is a pathological liar.I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
No argument with that fact.
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"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination.
Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive
CNN —
A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate.
The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room.
The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
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Headlines today . . .
Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive
CNN —
A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate.
The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room.
The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
Headlines today . . . Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive CNN — A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate. The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
Initially that employee lied about moving the boxes at trump's direction in a means to coverup the evidence but later he told the truth.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Headlines today . . . Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive CNN — A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate. The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
Initially that employee lied about moving the boxes at trump's direction in a means to coverup the evidence but later he told the truth.
Headlines today . . . Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive CNN — A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate. The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
Welp, that figures. I don't see this ending well for the fascist former president.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Headlines today . . . Trump employee tells FBI about suspicious Trump directive CNN — A Trump employee has told the FBI about being directed by the former President to move boxes out of a basement storage room to his residence at Mar-a-Lago after Donald Trump’s legal team received a subpoena for any classified documents at the Florida estate. The FBI also has surveillance footage showing a staffer moving boxes out of the storage room. The witness account of Trump’s actions AFTER the subpoena was served in May, coupled with the footage, could be key to the federal *CRIMINAL* investigation that’s looking into a range of potential crimes, including obstruction, destruction of government records and mishandling of classified information.
Welp, that figures. I don't see this ending well for the fascist former president.
@fubah2 Crazy that when he/she lied, the Mar A Lardo employee feared the POS more than the FBI.
Yeah. The FBI would merely detain him/her for questioning, but the more immediate threat would be retaliation form the POS - and a mob boss is entirely unpredictable in that case.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@fubah2 Crazy that when he/she lied, the Mar A Lardo employee feared the POS more than the FBI.
Yeah. The FBI would merely detain him/her for questioning, but the more immediate threat would be retaliation form the POS - and a mob boss is entirely unpredictable in that case.
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan ruled on Wednesday that the former president must answer questions under oath in relation to the allegations made by magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll.
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The traitor must testify in the rape of Jean Carroll.
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan ruled on Wednesday that the former president must answer questions under oath in relation to the allegations made by magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll.
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination. No argument with that fact.
I saw a better term for it - a national security attorney described him as a “perjury machine” in a quote on background to WaPo
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams: Trump is a pathological liar. I wonder if he will be able to control himself if he takes the witness (in his case "witless") stand, or will his incompetent lawyers (the good ones have refused to work for someone they regard as guilty) repeatedly advise him to plead the Fifth Amendment to avoid certain self-incrimination. No argument with that fact.
I saw a better term for it - a national security attorney described him as a “perjury machine” in a quote on background to WaPo
Justice Department officials have demanded in recent weeks to former President Donald Trump’s attorneys that he return any outstanding documents marked as classified, making clear they do not believe he has returned all materials taken when he left the White House.
The Justice officials – including Jay Bratt, a top lawyer in the Department of Justice’s national security division – have communicated to Trump’s attorneys that he has an ongoing obligation to return the documents marked as classified.
The New York Times first reported on the outreach.
Whether the FBI rounded up all of the sensitive federal records in Trump’s possession during its August 8 search of his Florida residence and resort is a question that’s loomed over the situation in recent weeks. In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
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Theft of US top secret documents
CNN —
Justice Department officials have demanded in recent weeks to former President Donald Trump’s attorneys that he return any outstanding documents marked as classified, making clear they do not believe he has returned all materials taken when he left the White House.
The Justice officials – including Jay Bratt, a top lawyer in the Department of Justice’s national security division – have communicated to Trump’s attorneys that he has an ongoing obligation to return the documents marked as classified.
The New York Times first reported on the outreach.
Whether the FBI rounded up all of the sensitive federal records in Trump’s possession during its August 8 search of his Florida residence and resort is a question that’s loomed over the situation in recent weeks. In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
Theft of US top secret documents CNN — Justice Department officials have demanded in recent weeks to former President Donald Trump’s attorneys that he return any outstanding documents marked as classified, making clear they do not believe he has returned all materials taken when he left the White House. The Justice officials – including Jay Bratt, a top lawyer in the Department of Justice’s national security division – have communicated to Trump’s attorneys that he has an ongoing obligation to return the documents marked as classified. The New York Times first reported on the outreach. Whether the FBI rounded up all of the sensitive federal records in Trump’s possession during its August 8 search of his Florida residence and resort is a question that’s loomed over the situation in recent weeks.In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence?
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Theft of US top secret documents CNN — Justice Department officials have demanded in recent weeks to former President Donald Trump’s attorneys that he return any outstanding documents marked as classified, making clear they do not believe he has returned all materials taken when he left the White House. The Justice officials – including Jay Bratt, a top lawyer in the Department of Justice’s national security division – have communicated to Trump’s attorneys that he has an ongoing obligation to return the documents marked as classified. The New York Times first reported on the outreach. Whether the FBI rounded up all of the sensitive federal records in Trump’s possession during its August 8 search of his Florida residence and resort is a question that’s loomed over the situation in recent weeks.In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence?
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence?
Yes. Then there is this rather important item:
"If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question.
One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing
So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence?
Yes. Then there is this rather important item:
"If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question.
One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence? Yes. Then there is this rather important item: "If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question. One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
in which case he would b screwed
but u know chump he will use the legal system to string that out of rseveral years
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence? Yes. Then there is this rather important item: "If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question. One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
in which case he would b screwed
but u know chump he will use the legal system to string that out of rseveral years
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence? Yes. Then there is this rather important item: "If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question. One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.” in which case he would b screwed but u know chump he will use the legal system to string that out of rseveral years
As we speak. Stay tuned on his further attempts to evade justice.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: .In numerous court filings, prosecutors indicated they had concerns that classified records were possibly still missing So Trump could still be hiding some top secret government documents at his residence? Yes. Then there is this rather important item: "If Trump is charged with one of the statutes that federal investigators are examining in the Mar-a-Lago documents probe, it might pose the most serious test yet to the constitutional question. One of the laws implicated in that Justice Department’s Mar-a-Lago criminal investigation, a federal statute that criminalizes the concealment or removal of government records, said that those found guilty “shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.” in which case he would b screwed but u know chump he will use the legal system to string that out of rseveral years
As we speak. Stay tuned on his further attempts to evade justice.
More classified documents found in Trump's possession
Two documents with classified markings were found in Donald Trump's Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump’s lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN.
Those documents were handed over to the FBI. The discovery of the documents was first reported by The Washington Post.
The team of two searched Trump Tower in New York, the Bedminster golf club, an office location in Florida, and the storage unit where the two documents were found and where the General Services Administration had shipped Trump’s belongings after he left the White House.
The four searches came amid lingering concerns from the Justice Department that not all documents had been returned to the federal government. The searches were overseen by Trump’s legal team
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story reported by CNN
More classified documents found in Trump's possession
Two documents with classified markings were found in Donald Trump's Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump’s lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN.
Those documents were handed over to the FBI. The discovery of the documents was first reported by The Washington Post.
The team of two searched Trump Tower in New York, the Bedminster golf club, an office location in Florida, and the storage unit where the two documents were found and where the General Services Administration had shipped Trump’s belongings after he left the White House.
The four searches came amid lingering concerns from the Justice Department that not all documents had been returned to the federal government. The searches were overseen by Trump’s legal team
story reported by CNN More classified documents found in Trump's possession Two documents with classified markings were found in Donald Trump's Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump’s lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN. Those documents were handed over to the FBI. The discovery of the documents was first reported by The Washington Post. The team of two searched Trump Tower in New York, the Bedminster golf club, an office location in Florida, and the storage unit where the two documents were found and where the General Services Administration had shipped Trump’s belongings after he left the White House. The four searches came amid lingering concerns from the Justice Department that not all documents had been returned to the federal government. The searches were overseen by Trump’s legal team
Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense.
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
story reported by CNN More classified documents found in Trump's possession Two documents with classified markings were found in Donald Trump's Florida storage unit during a search by a team hired by former President Donald Trump’s lawyers, a person familiar with the situation told CNN. Those documents were handed over to the FBI. The discovery of the documents was first reported by The Washington Post. The team of two searched Trump Tower in New York, the Bedminster golf club, an office location in Florida, and the storage unit where the two documents were found and where the General Services Administration had shipped Trump’s belongings after he left the White House. The four searches came amid lingering concerns from the Justice Department that not all documents had been returned to the federal government. The searches were overseen by Trump’s legal team
Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense.
Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense.
word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense.
word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
if biden is guilty of a crime then they should get a legal search warrant and check his other offices and residence as well nobody is above the law ! if hes guilty
i say they should hold a thorough investigation by FBI and HSA without bias along with that chump-appointed attorney already assigned to look into it
if guilty of a crime prosecute him !!!!
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
if biden is guilty of a crime then they should get a legal search warrant and check his other offices and residence as well nobody is above the law ! if hes guilty
i say they should hold a thorough investigation by FBI and HSA without bias along with that chump-appointed attorney already assigned to look into it
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense. word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
still no update on charges against the fascist traitor who incited a deadly insurrection resulting from his big lie ?
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense. word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
still no update on charges against the fascist traitor who incited a deadly insurrection resulting from his big lie ?
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense. word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
still no update on charges against the fascist traitor who incited a deadly insurrection resulting from his big lie ?
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Special Counsel has a fair bit of authority overlooking this criminal activity and it's said this one is the most likely by which Trump will be indicted and most likely convicted. He literally has no credible defense. word is theyre expecting an update on progress within 2 wks
still no update on charges against the fascist traitor who incited a deadly insurrection resulting from his big lie ?
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