Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
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Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Zero chance. Making perfectly logical sense of a situation that should be evident.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Zero chance. Making perfectly logical sense of a situation that should be evident.
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Makes sense My counter would be, "the market" is not funded by FTX and receives no contributions from FTX so they have no reason to look into FTX as they were one of the largest crypto exchanges. Did "the market" know how bad Lehman Brothers or Bear Sterns was in 05'-07'? Only a few did, but not "the market". Investors can only see so much of internal books, however, I would imagine the gov't would be able to verify where those tens of millions of dollars of "donations" were coming from (actually up to hundreds of millions and more). At the same time, I understand why they wouldn't want to look to much into it because they want the gravy train to continue. Nobody wants to find out their cash "donations" are ill gotten. It's easy to look the other way when someone's financing a large portion of your agenda. But I do understand how hard it may have been to uncover how FTX was sending clients funds to Alameda Research. Either way, SBF is a complete moron and he knew exactly what he was doing. He can say "I didn't know" all he wants, but his lying ass knew the entire time. You don't earn tens of billions in a few years skimming transactions fees. You become worth tens of billions when you just claim clients deposits as your own piggy bank. He was trying to become "to big to fail".
Your side likes to claim conspiracy at the begging when you're naïve. Then when the truth comes out, you just turn the other way and claim there's other conspiracy's and people who believe them are all crazy. Not all conspiracy's are crazy to think. I know the Earth is round, we've seen satellite images.
This one is far from over IMO.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Makes sense My counter would be, "the market" is not funded by FTX and receives no contributions from FTX so they have no reason to look into FTX as they were one of the largest crypto exchanges. Did "the market" know how bad Lehman Brothers or Bear Sterns was in 05'-07'? Only a few did, but not "the market". Investors can only see so much of internal books, however, I would imagine the gov't would be able to verify where those tens of millions of dollars of "donations" were coming from (actually up to hundreds of millions and more). At the same time, I understand why they wouldn't want to look to much into it because they want the gravy train to continue. Nobody wants to find out their cash "donations" are ill gotten. It's easy to look the other way when someone's financing a large portion of your agenda. But I do understand how hard it may have been to uncover how FTX was sending clients funds to Alameda Research. Either way, SBF is a complete moron and he knew exactly what he was doing. He can say "I didn't know" all he wants, but his lying ass knew the entire time. You don't earn tens of billions in a few years skimming transactions fees. You become worth tens of billions when you just claim clients deposits as your own piggy bank. He was trying to become "to big to fail".
Your side likes to claim conspiracy at the begging when you're naïve. Then when the truth comes out, you just turn the other way and claim there's other conspiracy's and people who believe them are all crazy. Not all conspiracy's are crazy to think. I know the Earth is round, we've seen satellite images.
The Government didn't know....they didn't care, why would they....it wasn't just politicians that were getting $ greased, it was corporate media and all alike. There was a reason Bankman-Fried was lobbying all of D.C. as discussions were already underway on the development and roll out of CBDC, which meant more regulations coming to his business. He was trying to get ahead of it was all. The ponzi was gonna ponzi till the very end. CBDC and crypto regulations were in the stages of development long before FTX blew up.
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The Government didn't know....they didn't care, why would they....it wasn't just politicians that were getting $ greased, it was corporate media and all alike. There was a reason Bankman-Fried was lobbying all of D.C. as discussions were already underway on the development and roll out of CBDC, which meant more regulations coming to his business. He was trying to get ahead of it was all. The ponzi was gonna ponzi till the very end. CBDC and crypto regulations were in the stages of development long before FTX blew up.
and FTX will be used as a case against DeFi and crypto. So the gov't was gladly taking his money (aka his clients money) while they were setting up CBDC. SBF wanted KYC in crypto and centralized exchanges. so conspiracy would be; why would the gov't shut down FTX and stop the money pouring in, when they can collect the ill gotten gains and then use FTX collapse to push CBDC which magically rolled out a few days after FTX declared bankruptcy. I believe CBDC was set to roll out early 2023. That's my "CoNsPiRaCy".
Look, I get it, the gov't may not have known what was going on with FTX. But they sure will use this to push CBDC.
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and FTX will be used as a case against DeFi and crypto. So the gov't was gladly taking his money (aka his clients money) while they were setting up CBDC. SBF wanted KYC in crypto and centralized exchanges. so conspiracy would be; why would the gov't shut down FTX and stop the money pouring in, when they can collect the ill gotten gains and then use FTX collapse to push CBDC which magically rolled out a few days after FTX declared bankruptcy. I believe CBDC was set to roll out early 2023. That's my "CoNsPiRaCy".
Look, I get it, the gov't may not have known what was going on with FTX. But they sure will use this to push CBDC.
@kcblitzkrieg and FTX will be used as a case against DeFi and crypto. So the gov't was gladly taking his money (aka his clients money) while they were setting up CBDC. SBF wanted KYC in crypto and centralized exchanges. so conspiracy would be; why would the gov't shut down FTX and stop the money pouring in, when they can collect the ill gotten gains and then use FTX collapse to push CBDC which magically rolled out a few days after FTX declared bankruptcy. I believe CBDC was set to roll out early 2023. That's my "CoNsPiRaCy". Look, I get it, the gov't may not have known what was going on with FTX. But they sure will use this to push CBDC.
100% that this was going to be used as a case against DeFi and crypto....no denying that. I don't see it as a true conspiracy, more so the "blind eye" was turned by many players. Hell the HEAD OF THE SEC meeting with SBF for "regulatory reasons" is about as "blind" you can get......Gary Gensler provided SBF / FTX a 'no action relief' letter (what you're planning to do is against our rules but we will agree in advance and in writing to ignore it) giving them a deep and wide regulatory moat against any other US-regulated crypto exchanges. The purpose of the March meeting, Gensler claims that his duties as SEC Chair force him to meet with all “market participants” and refused to provide further details. During the meeting, the SEC Chair allegedly asked SBF to “come into compliance” with U.S. regulations.
The Digital Yuan has been around for years.....the EU is banning ALL cash transactions over $10,000, rolling out their digital euro soon. The writing has been on the wall for some time, the implosion of the centralized exchanges was inevitable and governments have been readying for the post meltdown environment to make their cbdc moves.
Just another chapter in the time of the "4th Turning" we are currently living...
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Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
@kcblitzkrieg and FTX will be used as a case against DeFi and crypto. So the gov't was gladly taking his money (aka his clients money) while they were setting up CBDC. SBF wanted KYC in crypto and centralized exchanges. so conspiracy would be; why would the gov't shut down FTX and stop the money pouring in, when they can collect the ill gotten gains and then use FTX collapse to push CBDC which magically rolled out a few days after FTX declared bankruptcy. I believe CBDC was set to roll out early 2023. That's my "CoNsPiRaCy". Look, I get it, the gov't may not have known what was going on with FTX. But they sure will use this to push CBDC.
100% that this was going to be used as a case against DeFi and crypto....no denying that. I don't see it as a true conspiracy, more so the "blind eye" was turned by many players. Hell the HEAD OF THE SEC meeting with SBF for "regulatory reasons" is about as "blind" you can get......Gary Gensler provided SBF / FTX a 'no action relief' letter (what you're planning to do is against our rules but we will agree in advance and in writing to ignore it) giving them a deep and wide regulatory moat against any other US-regulated crypto exchanges. The purpose of the March meeting, Gensler claims that his duties as SEC Chair force him to meet with all “market participants” and refused to provide further details. During the meeting, the SEC Chair allegedly asked SBF to “come into compliance” with U.S. regulations.
The Digital Yuan has been around for years.....the EU is banning ALL cash transactions over $10,000, rolling out their digital euro soon. The writing has been on the wall for some time, the implosion of the centralized exchanges was inevitable and governments have been readying for the post meltdown environment to make their cbdc moves.
Just another chapter in the time of the "4th Turning" we are currently living...
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Zero chance of a government conspiracy there, but that won't stop the crazies from inventing new conspiracies or clinging to old ones.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
Zero chance of a government conspiracy there, but that won't stop the crazies from inventing new conspiracies or clinging to old ones.
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon. Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon. Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over. We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon. Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
BWAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Common sense you say!?
BLIND PARTISANSHIP is your radical party's MANTRA...... I can be critical of both left and right government agents & politicians. YOU and the botfarmbuddies are incapable of even DISCUSSING issues at hand. Copy/paste and repeat is all you stand for. Go back to bitching about Twitter for cracking down on child exploitation, your John Wayne racist homophobic groomer true colors are showing...
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over. We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon. Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
BWAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
Common sense you say!?
BLIND PARTISANSHIP is your radical party's MANTRA...... I can be critical of both left and right government agents & politicians. YOU and the botfarmbuddies are incapable of even DISCUSSING issues at hand. Copy/paste and repeat is all you stand for. Go back to bitching about Twitter for cracking down on child exploitation, your John Wayne racist homophobic groomer true colors are showing...
Good read here: https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/12/senate-banking-hearing-on-ftx-collapse-pits-a-courageous-law-professor-against-paid-shill-kevin-oleary/
O'Leary is a shill. Lost respect for this guy. Just admit, you got duped.
leverage on top of leverage on top of leverage. Same as the stock market. Leverage killed crypto IMO. The house of cards will fall hard.
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
Good read here: https://wallstreetonparade.com/2022/12/senate-banking-hearing-on-ftx-collapse-pits-a-courageous-law-professor-against-paid-shill-kevin-oleary/
O'Leary is a shill. Lost respect for this guy. Just admit, you got duped.
leverage on top of leverage on top of leverage. Same as the stock market. Leverage killed crypto IMO. The house of cards will fall hard.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon.
Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
That much is obvious and has been for several years.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @BigGame90 Not FTX, I am saying the MARKET would have sniffed it out and shorted it, the same way it happened when the event began to unfold. The market players are better at sniffing out a stinky fish than the government is and if there were ANY sniffs regarding leverage and internal controls, that token would have been wrecked long long ago, not by FTX but by greedy market players....that is the complete truth. Greed always manifests itself and it did not in this case until the doors opened up, thus nobody knew about it...the government didnt know, they had no internal controls so no employees could leak it to competitors or their friends or anyone at all. There is ZERO chance a government conspiracy happened here, but hey your group loves to throw a big vat of conspiracy on the wall all the time just to rile up the crazies and who cares if it has any merit or not, by the time the crazies move to the next conspiracy theory this one will be long over.
We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon.
Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
That much is obvious and has been for several years.
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We see that all too often. Won't end anytime soon. Among conservatives, blind partisanship has eclipsed common sense.
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