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    Global warming :: is it just a 'chinese hoax' like trump told us or is it serious?

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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 11:00 AM ET #676

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @thirdperson   Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners. I do not expect you to reply, because you never replied back to any of my points in the other Global Warming threads.  You simply abandoned the threads. But give me an example of where the dangers of excessive heat has been downplayed.  They are, if anything, overplayed by all media when, especially when it warms up.  That is all you hear about is how dangerous the heat is. This is all science and all about learning from mistakes and correcting misconceptions. For example NOAA will say more deaths are from heat while the CDC will say more deaths are from cold. Heat is not responsible for more deaths.  Yes, as it gets warmer more folks die from heat and fewer from cold but still more die from heat. For example, from various places: "The study found more people had died of cold than heat over the two-decade period."   "I can see why one can argue that winter (or cold-related) mortality is greater.” That was certainly the conclusion of a 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet, which found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studied."   "Despite the fact that the climate has warmed in the U.S. in recent decades (by 1.3°F to 1.9°F since 1895, with much of that increase occurring since 1970), the study found that the death rate due to heat has been decreasing, due to adaptation."

    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    @thirdperson   Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: For years, mostly right wing media has downplayed dangers of extreme heat.  When people are dissuaded from taking safety precautions, more lives can be put at risk.  But heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than all weather disasters combined according to National weather service.  Apparently, humans can adapt to cold better than heat.  Many homes have furnaces but fewer have air conditioners. I do not expect you to reply, because you never replied back to any of my points in the other Global Warming threads.  You simply abandoned the threads. But give me an example of where the dangers of excessive heat has been downplayed.  They are, if anything, overplayed by all media when, especially when it warms up.  That is all you hear about is how dangerous the heat is. This is all science and all about learning from mistakes and correcting misconceptions. For example NOAA will say more deaths are from heat while the CDC will say more deaths are from cold. Heat is not responsible for more deaths.  Yes, as it gets warmer more folks die from heat and fewer from cold but still more die from heat. For example, from various places: "The study found more people had died of cold than heat over the two-decade period."   "I can see why one can argue that winter (or cold-related) mortality is greater.” That was certainly the conclusion of a 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet, which found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studied."   "Despite the fact that the climate has warmed in the U.S. in recent decades (by 1.3°F to 1.9°F since 1895, with much of that increase occurring since 1970), the study found that the death rate due to heat has been decreasing, due to adaptation."

    Exactly!

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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 11:01 AM ET #677

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    "With the number of extreme weather days rising around the globe in recent years due to global warming, it is no surprise that there has been an upward trend in hospital visits and admissions for injuries caused by high heat over the last several years. But cold temperatures are responsible for almost all temperature-related deaths, according to a new study published in the journal Environmental Research. According to the new study by researchers at the University of Illinois Chicago, patients who died because of cold temperatures were responsible for 94% of temperature-related deaths, even though hypothermia was responsible for only 27% of temperature-related hospital visits. "With the decrease in the number of cold weather days over the last several decades, we still see more deaths due to cold weather as opposed to hot weather," said Lee Friedman, associate professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in the UIC School of Public Health and corresponding author on the paper. "This is in part due to the body's poorer ability to thermoregulate once hypothermia sets in, as well as since there are fewer cold weather days overall, people don't have time to acclimate to cold when those rarer cold days do occur." Hypothermia, or a drop in the body's core temperature, doesn't require sub-arctic temps. Even mildly cool temperatures can initiate hypothermia, defined as a drop in body temperature from the normal 98.7 degrees to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. When this occurs, organs and systems begin to shut down in an effort to preserve the brain. The process, once started, can be very difficult to get under control; however, people who are more regularly exposed to lower temperatures are better able to resist hypothermia. "People who were experiencing homelessness in the records we looked at were less likely to die from temperature-related injury," Friedman said. "Because they have greater outdoor exposure, they acclimate better to both heat and cold." Heat-related issues are more likely to self-resolve by getting to a cooler place or by hydrating, Friedman said. The researchers looked at inpatient and outpatient heat- and cold-related injuries that required a hospital visit in Illinois between 2011 and 2018. They identified 23,834 cold-related cases and 24,233 heat-related cases. Among these patients, there were 1,935 cold-related deaths and 70 heat-related deaths."

    Exactly again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    "With the number of extreme weather days rising around the globe in recent years due to global warming, it is no surprise that there has been an upward trend in hospital visits and admissions for injuries caused by high heat over the last several years. But cold temperatures are responsible for almost all temperature-related deaths, according to a new study published in the journal Environmental Research. According to the new study by researchers at the University of Illinois Chicago, patients who died because of cold temperatures were responsible for 94% of temperature-related deaths, even though hypothermia was responsible for only 27% of temperature-related hospital visits. "With the decrease in the number of cold weather days over the last several decades, we still see more deaths due to cold weather as opposed to hot weather," said Lee Friedman, associate professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in the UIC School of Public Health and corresponding author on the paper. "This is in part due to the body's poorer ability to thermoregulate once hypothermia sets in, as well as since there are fewer cold weather days overall, people don't have time to acclimate to cold when those rarer cold days do occur." Hypothermia, or a drop in the body's core temperature, doesn't require sub-arctic temps. Even mildly cool temperatures can initiate hypothermia, defined as a drop in body temperature from the normal 98.7 degrees to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. When this occurs, organs and systems begin to shut down in an effort to preserve the brain. The process, once started, can be very difficult to get under control; however, people who are more regularly exposed to lower temperatures are better able to resist hypothermia. "People who were experiencing homelessness in the records we looked at were less likely to die from temperature-related injury," Friedman said. "Because they have greater outdoor exposure, they acclimate better to both heat and cold." Heat-related issues are more likely to self-resolve by getting to a cooler place or by hydrating, Friedman said. The researchers looked at inpatient and outpatient heat- and cold-related injuries that required a hospital visit in Illinois between 2011 and 2018. They identified 23,834 cold-related cases and 24,233 heat-related cases. Among these patients, there were 1,935 cold-related deaths and 70 heat-related deaths."

    Exactly again!

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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 11:03 AM ET #678

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    So, you have to factor in more than just whether it is hot or cold and/or if it is excessive or not. The human body obviously does not like any extreme weather but can handle the heat better.   You cannot simply read what the news is saying, especially at the time it is occurring.  When it is hot, they talk about the dangers of heat; when it is cold, the same; when a flood happens, a tornado, etc. You have to look at longterm numbers and trends, etc. as a whole to get a clearer picture. But no one downplays anything in the media -- if anything they overplay it.

    And again!

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    Now isn't this just stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    So, you have to factor in more than just whether it is hot or cold and/or if it is excessive or not. The human body obviously does not like any extreme weather but can handle the heat better.   You cannot simply read what the news is saying, especially at the time it is occurring.  When it is hot, they talk about the dangers of heat; when it is cold, the same; when a flood happens, a tornado, etc. You have to look at longterm numbers and trends, etc. as a whole to get a clearer picture. But no one downplays anything in the media -- if anything they overplay it.

    And again!

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    Now isn't this just stupid?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 2:59 PM ET #679

    NOAA and CDC differ in determining death tolls for extreme heat and extreme cold.  Deaths are always higher in winters due to influenza and other non-weather related factors.  But correcting for seasonal differences in mortality, major heat waves cause big spikes in deaths.  Whereas major cold waves don't.

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    NOAA and CDC differ in determining death tolls for extreme heat and extreme cold.  Deaths are always higher in winters due to influenza and other non-weather related factors.  But correcting for seasonal differences in mortality, major heat waves cause big spikes in deaths.  Whereas major cold waves don't.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 3:20 PM ET #680

    A 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studies.

    Since 1980 there are 11 states that recorded record breaking cold temperatures. Only 7 states have recorded record breaking high temperatures since 1980. an_light

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    A 2015 epidemiological study of deaths in 13 countries in The Lancet found that cold-related deaths in the U.S. were about a factor of fifteen higher than heat-related deaths. Cold deaths outnumbered heat deaths by a factor of twenty when averaged over all 13 countries studies.

    Since 1980 there are 11 states that recorded record breaking cold temperatures. Only 7 states have recorded record breaking high temperatures since 1980. an_light

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 3:50 PM ET #681

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    NOAA and CDC differ in determining death tolls for extreme heat and extreme cold.  Deaths are always higher in winters due to influenza and other non-weather related factors.  But correcting for seasonal differences in mortality, major heat waves cause big spikes in deaths.  Whereas major cold waves don't.

    This is incorrect.  peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    NOAA and CDC differ in determining death tolls for extreme heat and extreme cold.  Deaths are always higher in winters due to influenza and other non-weather related factors.  But correcting for seasonal differences in mortality, major heat waves cause big spikes in deaths.  Whereas major cold waves don't.

    This is incorrect.  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 4:48 PM ET #682

    thirdperson will never answer you , it’s his standard mood , terror in his errors bad words when he stares at truth , a pair of underwear covers his derrière dare I say it’s a hairy man caboose , but dude that’s neither here or there or fair or true , but I thought I’d be awesome beyond compare and share a laugh or two …..

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    thirdperson will never answer you , it’s his standard mood , terror in his errors bad words when he stares at truth , a pair of underwear covers his derrière dare I say it’s a hairy man caboose , but dude that’s neither here or there or fair or true , but I thought I’d be awesome beyond compare and share a laugh or two …..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2023 - 8:37 PM ET #683

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.   Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: The Holocene Climatic Optimum was a very warm period just 8 thousand years ago.   Now scientists are confident that recent temperatures are higher than 6000 to 12,000 years ago.  Temperature estimates of Holoscene era have been revised according to Rutgers institute study published in Nature journal.  Apparently, man-made global warming works far faster than natural causes.  United nations IPCC confirms that global temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age, some 125,000 years ago.

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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2023 - 9:45 AM ET #684

    The Washington Post published an article titled "Heat waves in U.S., Europe ‘virtually impossible’ without climate change, study finds." 

    This is the biggest bullshit story! 

    The TRUTH;

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain

    Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. In fact, the best available evidence suggests that heat waves recorded a century ago were more problematic than anything we’re seeing today. 

    Government researchers have been tracking heat waves for more than 100 years. According to data from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program, which is made available by the Environmental Protection Agency, the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years. In some years in the 1930s, it was four times greater or even more. 

    Additionally, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has a large database of daily temperatures that goes back to 1948. NOAA used 1,066 weather stations located across the United States to collect this data. 

    According to NOAA, huge swaths of the United States have experienced a significant decrease in abnormally hot days recorded since 1948, especially in the Midwest and northern and eastern Texas. 

    Although it’s true that some parts of the United States have seen the number of hotter-than-usual days increase over the past 70 years — including in California and the New York metropolitan area, both of which happen to be areas where a large number of media outlets are located — most weather stations have shown no meaningful changes or even declines. 

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts, who works with me as a senior fellow at The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that 81% of the weather stations used in NOAA’s database reported that since 1948 there has been "either a decrease or no change in the number of unusually hot days." 

    If the available data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true? The answer is sloppy, irresponsible media reporting, combined with cherry-picked data. 

    The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science. The best way to fight back against it is to use cold, hard facts. And those facts plainly show that there is no reason to panic about our ever-changing climate. 

    Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!! an_clap

     

     

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    The Washington Post published an article titled "Heat waves in U.S., Europe ‘virtually impossible’ without climate change, study finds." 

    This is the biggest bullshit story! 

    The TRUTH;

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/not-climate-change-causing-heat-waves-this-summer-explain

    Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. In fact, the best available evidence suggests that heat waves recorded a century ago were more problematic than anything we’re seeing today. 

    Government researchers have been tracking heat waves for more than 100 years. According to data from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program, which is made available by the Environmental Protection Agency, the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years. In some years in the 1930s, it was four times greater or even more. 

    Additionally, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has a large database of daily temperatures that goes back to 1948. NOAA used 1,066 weather stations located across the United States to collect this data. 

    According to NOAA, huge swaths of the United States have experienced a significant decrease in abnormally hot days recorded since 1948, especially in the Midwest and northern and eastern Texas. 

    Although it’s true that some parts of the United States have seen the number of hotter-than-usual days increase over the past 70 years — including in California and the New York metropolitan area, both of which happen to be areas where a large number of media outlets are located — most weather stations have shown no meaningful changes or even declines. 

    Meteorologist Anthony Watts, who works with me as a senior fellow at The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that 81% of the weather stations used in NOAA’s database reported that since 1948 there has been "either a decrease or no change in the number of unusually hot days." 

    If the available data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true? The answer is sloppy, irresponsible media reporting, combined with cherry-picked data. 

    The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science. The best way to fight back against it is to use cold, hard facts. And those facts plainly show that there is no reason to panic about our ever-changing climate. 

    Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!! an_clap

     

     

     
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    Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity


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    The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades.

    Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely.

    The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic.

    “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

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    WAHINGTON POST -

    The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades.

    Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely.

    The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic.

    “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WAHINGTON POST - The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades. Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely. The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    The AMOC is part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration calls “the global ocean conveyor belt.” That keeps northern Europe several degrees warmer than it would otherwise be at that latitude — Paris is farther north than notoriously frigid-in-winter Montreal, for example.

    In recent years, studies have shown that the current is at its weakest in 1,000 years.

    Several studies have attributed that weakening to an influx of fresh water from the melting of Arctic sea ice, including the Greenland ice sheet, and increasing precipitation — both of which are results of global warming. The AMOC is driven by heavier cold water sinking, which raises warm water to the surface, but since fresh water is lighter than salt water, it has reduced the tendency of colder water near the surface to sink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WAHINGTON POST - The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades. Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely. The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    The AMOC is part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration calls “the global ocean conveyor belt.” That keeps northern Europe several degrees warmer than it would otherwise be at that latitude — Paris is farther north than notoriously frigid-in-winter Montreal, for example.

    In recent years, studies have shown that the current is at its weakest in 1,000 years.

    Several studies have attributed that weakening to an influx of fresh water from the melting of Arctic sea ice, including the Greenland ice sheet, and increasing precipitation — both of which are results of global warming. The AMOC is driven by heavier cold water sinking, which raises warm water to the surface, but since fresh water is lighter than salt water, it has reduced the tendency of colder water near the surface to sink.

     
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    Since that article from 5 years ago, here is some later news you will not find so easily in the last few years:

    Scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center announced Wednesday that the Arctic ice sheet extends 25 percent further than it did last summer, with 1.82 million square miles of ice at its annual low.

    Arctic ice coverage reaches its lowest extent in mid- to late-September following the melting season.

    This year’s post-melting season ice sheet is 40 percent larger than the record low, which was set in 2012.

    Scientists maintain that the northerly polar ice cap continues on a downward melting trend. Upon news of the greater ice coverage, scientists noted that weather patterns fluctuate and pointed to a zone of colder-than-usual air pressure over the Beaufort Sea.

    “The extent is higher than in recent years, but that is not telling the full story,” explained Mark Serreze, executive director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. He added that this year is a “reprieve” and that “the weather is so variable.”

    Scientists have tracked ice coverage in the Arctic since 1979. The past 15 years have shown a lower extent of Arctic ice coverage compared to the previous 27 years.

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    Since that article from 5 years ago, here is some later news you will not find so easily in the last few years:

    Scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center announced Wednesday that the Arctic ice sheet extends 25 percent further than it did last summer, with 1.82 million square miles of ice at its annual low.

    Arctic ice coverage reaches its lowest extent in mid- to late-September following the melting season.

    This year’s post-melting season ice sheet is 40 percent larger than the record low, which was set in 2012.

    Scientists maintain that the northerly polar ice cap continues on a downward melting trend. Upon news of the greater ice coverage, scientists noted that weather patterns fluctuate and pointed to a zone of colder-than-usual air pressure over the Beaufort Sea.

    “The extent is higher than in recent years, but that is not telling the full story,” explained Mark Serreze, executive director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. He added that this year is a “reprieve” and that “the weather is so variable.”

    Scientists have tracked ice coverage in the Arctic since 1979. The past 15 years have shown a lower extent of Arctic ice coverage compared to the previous 27 years.

     
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    The climate changes quite a bit over time, including a short period of 5 years.  You have to keep up with it and look at long trends and short trends to try to draw a conclusion, and then the conclusion can still be wrong later.  peace_5

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    The climate changes quite a bit over time, including a short period of 5 years.  You have to keep up with it and look at long trends and short trends to try to draw a conclusion, and then the conclusion can still be wrong later.  peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Since that article from 5 years ago, here is some later news you will not find so easily in the last few years: Scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center announced Wednesday that the Arctic ice sheet extends 25 percent further than it did last summer, with 1.82 million square miles of ice at its annual low. Arctic ice coverage reaches its lowest extent in mid- to late-September following the melting season. This year’s post-melting season ice sheet is 40 percent larger than the record low, which was set in 2012. Scientists maintain that the northerly polar ice cap continues on a downward melting trend. Upon news of the greater ice coverage, scientists noted that weather patterns fluctuate and pointed to a zone of colder-than-usual air pressure over the Beaufort Sea. “The extent is higher than in recent years, but that is not telling the full story,” explained Mark Serreze, executive director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. He added that this year is a “reprieve” and that “the weather is so variable.” Scientists have tracked ice coverage in the Arctic since 1979. The past 15 years have shown a lower extent of Arctic ice coverage compared to the previous 27 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Since that article from 5 years ago, here is some later news you will not find so easily in the last few years: Scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center announced Wednesday that the Arctic ice sheet extends 25 percent further than it did last summer, with 1.82 million square miles of ice at its annual low. Arctic ice coverage reaches its lowest extent in mid- to late-September following the melting season. This year’s post-melting season ice sheet is 40 percent larger than the record low, which was set in 2012. Scientists maintain that the northerly polar ice cap continues on a downward melting trend. Upon news of the greater ice coverage, scientists noted that weather patterns fluctuate and pointed to a zone of colder-than-usual air pressure over the Beaufort Sea. “The extent is higher than in recent years, but that is not telling the full story,” explained Mark Serreze, executive director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center. He added that this year is a “reprieve” and that “the weather is so variable.” Scientists have tracked ice coverage in the Arctic since 1979. The past 15 years have shown a lower extent of Arctic ice coverage compared to the previous 27 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST - The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades. Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely. The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions. The AMOC is part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration calls “the global ocean conveyor belt.” That keeps northern Europe several degrees warmer than it would otherwise be at that latitude — Paris is farther north than notoriously frigid-in-winter Montreal, for example. In recent years, studies have shown that the current is at its weakest in 1,000 years. Several studies have attributed that weakening to an influx of fresh water from the melting of Arctic sea ice, including the Greenland ice sheet, and increasing precipitation — both of which are results of global warming. The AMOC is driven by heavier cold water sinking, which raises warm water to the surface, but since fresh water is lighter than salt water, it has reduced the tendency of colder water near the surface to sink.

    What the NEW STUDY found

    Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury.  an_speechless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST - The Atlantic Ocean’s sensitive circulation system has become slower and less resilient, according to a new analysis of 150 years of temperature data — raising the possibility that this crucial element of the climate system could collapse within the next few decades. Scientists have long seen the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, as one of the planet’s most vulnerable “tipping elements” — meaning the system could undergo an abrupt and irreversible change, with dramatic consequences for the rest of the globe. Under Earth’s current climate, this aquatic conveyor belt transports warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic, and then sends colder water back south along the ocean floor. But as rising global temperatures melt Arctic ice, the resulting influx of cold freshwater has thrown a wrench in the system — and could shut it down entirely. The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions. The AMOC is part of what the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration calls “the global ocean conveyor belt.” That keeps northern Europe several degrees warmer than it would otherwise be at that latitude — Paris is farther north than notoriously frigid-in-winter Montreal, for example. In recent years, studies have shown that the current is at its weakest in 1,000 years. Several studies have attributed that weakening to an influx of fresh water from the melting of Arctic sea ice, including the Greenland ice sheet, and increasing precipitation — both of which are results of global warming. The AMOC is driven by heavier cold water sinking, which raises warm water to the surface, but since fresh water is lighter than salt water, it has reduced the tendency of colder water near the surface to sink.

    What the NEW STUDY found

    Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury.  an_speechless

     
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    That is not a new study. peace_5

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    That is not a new study. peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST -

    What the NEW STUDY found Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury.

    human accellerated  global warming causing unprecedented ice melt and change in ocean currents 

    like   the day after tomorrow  an_nailbiter

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST -

    What the NEW STUDY found Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury.

    human accellerated  global warming causing unprecedented ice melt and change in ocean currents 

    like   the day after tomorrow  an_nailbiter

     

     

     
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    Example of the exaggeration on this sort of thing:

    On Monday 24th July 2023, Jerzu in Sardinia climbed to 48.2°C, provisionally exceeding the previous European temperature record for July, set on 10th July 1977 in Athens with 48°C.

    Then come to find out:

    This temperature reported from BBC Weather is NOT from a World
    Meteorological Organization recognised climate station. There are NO
    WMO recognised weather stations in Jerzu itself. Sardinia. It is from an
    unrecognised agricultural station near Jerzu, reported by the Sardinia
    weather portal. Closest WMO recognised are in order of proximity Capo
    Bellavista (45°C) Perdasdefogu (41°C) and Capo San Lorenzo (Italian
    Chernobyl 47°C).

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    Example of the exaggeration on this sort of thing:

    On Monday 24th July 2023, Jerzu in Sardinia climbed to 48.2°C, provisionally exceeding the previous European temperature record for July, set on 10th July 1977 in Athens with 48°C.

    Then come to find out:

    This temperature reported from BBC Weather is NOT from a World
    Meteorological Organization recognised climate station. There are NO
    WMO recognised weather stations in Jerzu itself. Sardinia. It is from an
    unrecognised agricultural station near Jerzu, reported by the Sardinia
    weather portal. Closest WMO recognised are in order of proximity Capo
    Bellavista (45°C) Perdasdefogu (41°C) and Capo San Lorenzo (Italian
    Chernobyl 47°C).

    an_cheers

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST - What the NEW STUDY found Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury. human accellerated  global warming causing unprecedented ice melt and change in ocean currents  like   the day after tomorrow

    @KellyM_1964

    It's definitely a problem and getting worse by the day.  Numerous nations around the globe particularly in Europe are acutely aware of this.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity WASHINGTON POST - What the NEW STUDY found Researchers used sea surface temperature data dating back to 1870 to estimate AMOC current strength over time. Projecting forward from the gradual weakening of the system, they estimated it will collapse between 2025 and 2095,  with the most likely date being around midcentury. human accellerated  global warming causing unprecedented ice melt and change in ocean currents  like   the day after tomorrow

    @KellyM_1964

    It's definitely a problem and getting worse by the day.  Numerous nations around the globe particularly in Europe are acutely aware of this.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. I the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years.   The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true?   The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science.   Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!!

    For years, Fox news and Heartland institute have been promoting climate science misinformation contrary to scientific consensus.  Their so-called experts have done little or no peer reviewed climate research.  They cherry pick data for misleading claims.  However over 97% of top climate scientists worldwide accept man-made global warming.

    US heat wave index only covers 48 states.  Not the rest of the world.  Average global temperature is a better measure of global warming.  Climate change increases not only the frequency of heat waves but also their severity.  In the US, average of 2 heat waves annually during 1960s increased to over 6 annually during 2020s. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. I the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years.   The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true?   The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science.   Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!!

    For years, Fox news and Heartland institute have been promoting climate science misinformation contrary to scientific consensus.  Their so-called experts have done little or no peer reviewed climate research.  They cherry pick data for misleading claims.  However over 97% of top climate scientists worldwide accept man-made global warming.

    US heat wave index only covers 48 states.  Not the rest of the world.  Average global temperature is a better measure of global warming.  Climate change increases not only the frequency of heat waves but also their severity.  In the US, average of 2 heat waves annually during 1960s increased to over 6 annually during 2020s. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity 

    The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    This should be alarming to all but the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity 

    The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    This should be alarming to all but the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

     

     

     
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     I'm still alarmed from Al Gores comments from the early 2000s. And still waiting for the US coasts to sink underwater. Any day now...

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     I'm still alarmed from Al Gores comments from the early 2000s. And still waiting for the US coasts to sink underwater. Any day now...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. I the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years.   The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true?   The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science.   Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!!

     

    For years, Fox news and Heartland institute have been promoting climate science misinformation contrary to scientific consensus.  Their so-called experts have done little or no peer reviewed climate research.  They cherry pick data for misleading claims.  However over 97% of top climate scientists worldwide accept man-made global warming.

    thank you thirdperson for these pertinent FACTS !! thumbs_up

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Although certain parts of the United States have undoubtedly experienced strong heat waves this summer, there’s no reason to believe these weather events are evidence that the world is hurtling toward a climate change catastrophe. I the annual heat wave index for the contiguous 48 states was substantially higher in the 1930s than at any point in recent years.   The Heartland Institute, analyzed NOAA’s data in detail and found that data so clearly reveal that there is no heat-wave crisis, why are media outlets suggesting the opposite is true?   The ugly truth behind climate alarmism is that much of it is driven by a radical ideological agenda that is seeking to transform the global economy and American society, not by science.   Thank you Fox News for scientific FACTS!!!

     

    For years, Fox news and Heartland institute have been promoting climate science misinformation contrary to scientific consensus.  Their so-called experts have done little or no peer reviewed climate research.  They cherry pick data for misleading claims.  However over 97% of top climate scientists worldwide accept man-made global warming.

    thank you thirdperson for these pertinent FACTS !! thumbs_up

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity  The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    This should be alarming to all but the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

    it should          but not to the magas who believe the election was rigged  which is most of the magas

    thumbs_down

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Scientists detect sign that a crucial ocean current is near collapse due to accelerated global warming from human activity  The study published Tuesday in the journal Nature Communications suggests that continued warming will push the AMOC over its “tipping point” around the middle of this century. The shift would be as abrupt and irreversible as turning off a light switch, and it could lead to dramatic changes in weather on either side of the Atlantic. “This is a really worrying result,” said Peter Ditlevsen, a climate physicist at the University of Copenhagen and lead author of the new study. “This is really showing we need a hard foot on the brake” of greenhouse gas emissions.

    This should be alarming to all but the members of the "Flat Earth Society"

    it should          but not to the magas who believe the election was rigged  which is most of the magas

    thumbs_down

     

     

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