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    HARRIS clearly whups trump in very consequencial debate watched by nearly 100+ million!

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2024 - 2:36 AM ET #101

     FOX NEWS:

    Trump ‘Decisively Lost’ Debate

     

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        Fox News chief political analyst Brit Hume
    also criticized Trump’s performance in the debate,
    weighing in, ““Look, make no mistake about it,
    Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly
    when she baited him, something I’m sure his advisers
    had begged him NOT to do.”


    Fox Business host Neil Cavuto on Wednesday said Trump
    “decisively lost” Tuesday’s ABC News debate.

             On Wednesday’s Cavuto: Coast to Coast,
    the host criticized Trump’s performance in the debate,
    arguing, “He decisively lost. He might have made
    very good presentations on where the economy was,
    but it was all over the map. This was the first occasion
    where it wasn’t just a close call, it was a lopsided one.” an_2drinks

     

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     FOX NEWS:

    Trump ‘Decisively Lost’ Debate

     

                                an_cheers
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        Fox News chief political analyst Brit Hume
    also criticized Trump’s performance in the debate,
    weighing in, ““Look, make no mistake about it,
    Trump had a bad night. He rose to the bait repeatedly
    when she baited him, something I’m sure his advisers
    had begged him NOT to do.”


    Fox Business host Neil Cavuto on Wednesday said Trump
    “decisively lost” Tuesday’s ABC News debate.

             On Wednesday’s Cavuto: Coast to Coast,
    the host criticized Trump’s performance in the debate,
    arguing, “He decisively lost. He might have made
    very good presentations on where the economy was,
    but it was all over the map. This was the first occasion
    where it wasn’t just a close call, it was a lopsided one.” an_2drinks

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2024 - 2:40 AM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    So what exactly was won again?   The D-E-B-A-T-E was won,and it was won by H-A-R-R-I-S.

     

    Was she given a gift?   No,she received no gift or prize.

    Is she already President?   No this wasn't an election (that's coming up later),it was a D-E-B-A-T-E.

    What exactly was won here again because this makes no sense...what was the criteria for winning?   There was a D-E-B-A-T-E that was won here,the criteria for winning the debate was answering the questions better then the other person you are in the debate with.

    Was this disclosed up front or just made up after the fact?   If someone in the debate has to be told beforehand that the object is to win the debate,they probably shouldn't be in the debate to begin with.

    Did they shower after to clean up from the win they earned?   I'm not sure,I wasn't backstage.I don't believe trump did cause he still had his make up on when he went out to the spin room and told reporters "This is my best debate ever.Everyone's agreed I won." See,he was trying to WIN the debate.

    I mean to designate as a win/loss there had to be a basis and some criteria disclosed to designate a winner and loser..I don't recall that taking place.   The basis and criteria is to do better in the debate,then the other people in the debate.Like I said earlier,if you need it to be explained to you that you wanna WIN the debate,then debates probably aren't for you.

    I don't recall ANY Presidential debate of two or more candidates where there was ever a designated winner or designated loser for either team.   There was a debate a couple months ago where Joe Biden didn't do to well,and he lost the debate.If you can't recall that,there might be some issues with your memory.Maybe you remember this,Biden lost that debate so bad,it was decided that maybe he should drop out and let Kamala Harris (that was the lady who was in and won last nights debate) run for the office of President.

    Does anyone have the records of wins/losses for Presidential debates that can be viewed.   I don't know,try googling it.As a matter of fact try googling 'Who won last night's debate",you should get all the answers you need right there.

    Do we need Biff?   Yes,you could use a good Biff.

    Presidential election results,sure,but a debate?   If I remember correctly a lot of people on here don't seem to understand or believe in Presidential election results either,of who wins and who loses.

    Wow,can't believe I missed this record setting win after all these years of watching debates on television...must of been triumphant.   Ya,I can't believe you missed it either.Here,I'll give you a quick rundown and save you a couple of hours of catching up on it.Harris won,and trump lied every time he opened his mouth (I know shocking,right).I don't know if it was record setting,unless trump set a record for lies in 1 debate.It was definitely triumphant though.I think the best part was when trump was complaining about Obamacare being lousy healthcare and needing to replace it.And after 8 years of talking about it,he admitted he don't have a plan yet,he just has a concept of a plan.

    Hey,hopefully this helps you if there happens to be another debate between them.Just try and remember,the object is try to win the debate.If you can remember that you should be okay,and you should get a better understanding of why they have them.Again,hopefully I've been able to help you navigate the difficult path,at to what the objective is in a debate.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    So what exactly was won again?   The D-E-B-A-T-E was won,and it was won by H-A-R-R-I-S.

     

    Was she given a gift?   No,she received no gift or prize.

    Is she already President?   No this wasn't an election (that's coming up later),it was a D-E-B-A-T-E.

    What exactly was won here again because this makes no sense...what was the criteria for winning?   There was a D-E-B-A-T-E that was won here,the criteria for winning the debate was answering the questions better then the other person you are in the debate with.

    Was this disclosed up front or just made up after the fact?   If someone in the debate has to be told beforehand that the object is to win the debate,they probably shouldn't be in the debate to begin with.

    Did they shower after to clean up from the win they earned?   I'm not sure,I wasn't backstage.I don't believe trump did cause he still had his make up on when he went out to the spin room and told reporters "This is my best debate ever.Everyone's agreed I won." See,he was trying to WIN the debate.

    I mean to designate as a win/loss there had to be a basis and some criteria disclosed to designate a winner and loser..I don't recall that taking place.   The basis and criteria is to do better in the debate,then the other people in the debate.Like I said earlier,if you need it to be explained to you that you wanna WIN the debate,then debates probably aren't for you.

    I don't recall ANY Presidential debate of two or more candidates where there was ever a designated winner or designated loser for either team.   There was a debate a couple months ago where Joe Biden didn't do to well,and he lost the debate.If you can't recall that,there might be some issues with your memory.Maybe you remember this,Biden lost that debate so bad,it was decided that maybe he should drop out and let Kamala Harris (that was the lady who was in and won last nights debate) run for the office of President.

    Does anyone have the records of wins/losses for Presidential debates that can be viewed.   I don't know,try googling it.As a matter of fact try googling 'Who won last night's debate",you should get all the answers you need right there.

    Do we need Biff?   Yes,you could use a good Biff.

    Presidential election results,sure,but a debate?   If I remember correctly a lot of people on here don't seem to understand or believe in Presidential election results either,of who wins and who loses.

    Wow,can't believe I missed this record setting win after all these years of watching debates on television...must of been triumphant.   Ya,I can't believe you missed it either.Here,I'll give you a quick rundown and save you a couple of hours of catching up on it.Harris won,and trump lied every time he opened his mouth (I know shocking,right).I don't know if it was record setting,unless trump set a record for lies in 1 debate.It was definitely triumphant though.I think the best part was when trump was complaining about Obamacare being lousy healthcare and needing to replace it.And after 8 years of talking about it,he admitted he don't have a plan yet,he just has a concept of a plan.

    Hey,hopefully this helps you if there happens to be another debate between them.Just try and remember,the object is try to win the debate.If you can remember that you should be okay,and you should get a better understanding of why they have them.Again,hopefully I've been able to help you navigate the difficult path,at to what the objective is in a debate.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

     

    For one, I have never played the victim. And I don't really fit in a box politically. I have some conservative leanings. I have some liberal leanings. And I never suggested you should be boxed, like some of the dry snitches on this site. I simply pointed out that I have seen conservative posters boxed for less. For example, I saw a guy get boxed for saying something to the effect of, "Did one of your customers tell you that when you were fixing their toilet." The guy he said it about is literally a tradesman, albeit not a plumber.

    Another example is how you've continued to address, to the point of borderline antagonization, posters who areclearly trying to ignore you, probably from fear of being boxed themselves. While benign, if certain moderators were feeling some type of way, right leaning posters could find themselves boxed simply for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

     

    For one, I have never played the victim. And I don't really fit in a box politically. I have some conservative leanings. I have some liberal leanings. And I never suggested you should be boxed, like some of the dry snitches on this site. I simply pointed out that I have seen conservative posters boxed for less. For example, I saw a guy get boxed for saying something to the effect of, "Did one of your customers tell you that when you were fixing their toilet." The guy he said it about is literally a tradesman, albeit not a plumber.

    Another example is how you've continued to address, to the point of borderline antagonization, posters who areclearly trying to ignore you, probably from fear of being boxed themselves. While benign, if certain moderators were feeling some type of way, right leaning posters could find themselves boxed simply for that.

     
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     Does kinda sound like you are playing the victim "If it was anyone of us (right leaning) we'd be boxed,but because he isn't right leaning he won't be".Like it's unfair unless I am boxed.No you didn't suggest I be boxed,but you did bring up,if I would of been on the other side (the right side) I would of been.Why bring it up,unless you are looking for Wallstreet to box me,or that it would be so unfair if I wasn't?And like I asked you earlier,what part of what I said is the part you think someone on the right would of been boxed for?You don't know exactly what some conservative posters have gotten boxed for,to tell if what they said is the same or worse.They don't tell you exactly what comment got someone boxed.You can't be sure the toilet comment is what got him boxed.

    I usually don't post something to people who are trying to ignore me.I usually post to respond to people who have quoted me or used what I have said in their response.I wasn't antagonizing Spock,he came at me,I just went back at him.When I originally brought him up,I said nothing about what he posted.I had just brought up that he was the only right leaning (which I thought he was,but was told he says he isn't) that had posted anything after the debate had ended,that's the only reason I mentioned him at all.I wasn't disputing what he said,only that he had posted something after it had ended,and was the only one that had.You don't know "if certain moderators were feeling some type of way",what right leaning posters could find themselves simply boxed for.Like I said I don't believe they explain to you exactly what you got boxed for,at least they haven't when I've been boxed.Again,like I said earlier,if you think somebody is gonna come after me,and I'm not going to say something back,that's not gonna happen.

    I probably won't be around till later at night,got some running around to do.So if you respond to what comment you think I should of been boxed for (or what you think someone on the right would of been boxed for)and I don't respond back right away.Im not ignoring what you've said,I'll get to it later.

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     Does kinda sound like you are playing the victim "If it was anyone of us (right leaning) we'd be boxed,but because he isn't right leaning he won't be".Like it's unfair unless I am boxed.No you didn't suggest I be boxed,but you did bring up,if I would of been on the other side (the right side) I would of been.Why bring it up,unless you are looking for Wallstreet to box me,or that it would be so unfair if I wasn't?And like I asked you earlier,what part of what I said is the part you think someone on the right would of been boxed for?You don't know exactly what some conservative posters have gotten boxed for,to tell if what they said is the same or worse.They don't tell you exactly what comment got someone boxed.You can't be sure the toilet comment is what got him boxed.

    I usually don't post something to people who are trying to ignore me.I usually post to respond to people who have quoted me or used what I have said in their response.I wasn't antagonizing Spock,he came at me,I just went back at him.When I originally brought him up,I said nothing about what he posted.I had just brought up that he was the only right leaning (which I thought he was,but was told he says he isn't) that had posted anything after the debate had ended,that's the only reason I mentioned him at all.I wasn't disputing what he said,only that he had posted something after it had ended,and was the only one that had.You don't know "if certain moderators were feeling some type of way",what right leaning posters could find themselves simply boxed for.Like I said I don't believe they explain to you exactly what you got boxed for,at least they haven't when I've been boxed.Again,like I said earlier,if you think somebody is gonna come after me,and I'm not going to say something back,that's not gonna happen.

    I probably won't be around till later at night,got some running around to do.So if you respond to what comment you think I should of been boxed for (or what you think someone on the right would of been boxed for)and I don't respond back right away.Im not ignoring what you've said,I'll get to it later.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: So what exactly was won again?   The D-E-B-A-T-E was won,and it was won by H-A-R-R-I-S.   Was she given a gift?   No,she received no gift or prize. Is she already President?   No this wasn't an election (that's coming up later),it was a D-E-B-A-T-E. What exactly was won here again because this makes no sense...what was the criteria for winning?   There was a D-E-B-A-T-E that was won here,the criteria for winning the debate was answering the questions better then the other person you are in the debate with. Was this disclosed up front or just made up after the fact?   If someone in the debate has to be told beforehand that the object is to win the debate,they probably shouldn't be in the debate to begin with. Did they shower after to clean up from the win they earned?   I'm not sure,I wasn't backstage.I don't believe trump did cause he still had his make up on when he went out to the spin room and told reporters "This is my best debate ever.Everyone's agreed I won." See,he was trying to WIN the debate. I mean to designate as a win/loss there had to be a basis and some criteria disclosed to designate a winner and loser..I don't recall that taking place.   The basis and criteria is to do better in the debate,then the other people in the debate.Like I said earlier,if you need it to be explained to you that you wanna WIN the debate,then debates probably aren't for you. I don't recall ANY Presidential debate of two or more candidates where there was ever a designated winner or designated loser for either team.   There was a debate a couple months ago where Joe Biden didn't do to well,and he lost the debate.If you can't recall that,there might be some issues with your memory.Maybe you remember this,Biden lost that debate so bad,it was decided that maybe he should drop out and let Kamala Harris (that was the lady who was in and won last nights debate) run for the office of President. Does anyone have the records of wins/losses for Presidential debates that can be viewed.   I don't know,try googling it.As a matter of fact try googling 'Who won last night's debate",you should get all the answers you need right there. Do we need Biff?   Yes,you could use a good Biff. Presidential election results,sure,but a debate?   If I remember correctly a lot of people on here don't seem to understand or believe in Presidential election results either,of who wins and who loses. Wow,can't believe I missed this record setting win after all these years of watching debates on television...must of been triumphant.   Ya,I can't believe you missed it either.Here,I'll give you a quick rundown and save you a couple of hours of catching up on it.Harris won,and trump lied every time he opened his mouth (I know shocking,right).I don't know if it was record setting,unless trump set a record for lies in 1 debate.It was definitely triumphant though.I think the best part was when trump was complaining about Obamacare being lousy healthcare and needing to replace it.And after 8 years of talking about it,he admitted he don't have a plan yet,he just has a concept of a plan. Hey,hopefully this helps you if there happens to be another debate between them.Just try and remember,the object is try to win the debate.If you can remember that you should be okay,and you should get a better understanding of why they have them.Again,hopefully I've been able to help you navigate the difficult path,at to what the objective is in a debate.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare: So what exactly was won again?   The D-E-B-A-T-E was won,and it was won by H-A-R-R-I-S.   Was she given a gift?   No,she received no gift or prize. Is she already President?   No this wasn't an election (that's coming up later),it was a D-E-B-A-T-E. What exactly was won here again because this makes no sense...what was the criteria for winning?   There was a D-E-B-A-T-E that was won here,the criteria for winning the debate was answering the questions better then the other person you are in the debate with. Was this disclosed up front or just made up after the fact?   If someone in the debate has to be told beforehand that the object is to win the debate,they probably shouldn't be in the debate to begin with. Did they shower after to clean up from the win they earned?   I'm not sure,I wasn't backstage.I don't believe trump did cause he still had his make up on when he went out to the spin room and told reporters "This is my best debate ever.Everyone's agreed I won." See,he was trying to WIN the debate. I mean to designate as a win/loss there had to be a basis and some criteria disclosed to designate a winner and loser..I don't recall that taking place.   The basis and criteria is to do better in the debate,then the other people in the debate.Like I said earlier,if you need it to be explained to you that you wanna WIN the debate,then debates probably aren't for you. I don't recall ANY Presidential debate of two or more candidates where there was ever a designated winner or designated loser for either team.   There was a debate a couple months ago where Joe Biden didn't do to well,and he lost the debate.If you can't recall that,there might be some issues with your memory.Maybe you remember this,Biden lost that debate so bad,it was decided that maybe he should drop out and let Kamala Harris (that was the lady who was in and won last nights debate) run for the office of President. Does anyone have the records of wins/losses for Presidential debates that can be viewed.   I don't know,try googling it.As a matter of fact try googling 'Who won last night's debate",you should get all the answers you need right there. Do we need Biff?   Yes,you could use a good Biff. Presidential election results,sure,but a debate?   If I remember correctly a lot of people on here don't seem to understand or believe in Presidential election results either,of who wins and who loses. Wow,can't believe I missed this record setting win after all these years of watching debates on television...must of been triumphant.   Ya,I can't believe you missed it either.Here,I'll give you a quick rundown and save you a couple of hours of catching up on it.Harris won,and trump lied every time he opened his mouth (I know shocking,right).I don't know if it was record setting,unless trump set a record for lies in 1 debate.It was definitely triumphant though.I think the best part was when trump was complaining about Obamacare being lousy healthcare and needing to replace it.And after 8 years of talking about it,he admitted he don't have a plan yet,he just has a concept of a plan. Hey,hopefully this helps you if there happens to be another debate between them.Just try and remember,the object is try to win the debate.If you can remember that you should be okay,and you should get a better understanding of why they have them.Again,hopefully I've been able to help you navigate the difficult path,at to what the objective is in a debate.

     

    Thanks for taking the time to spell it out for him, literally  peace_5

     
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    The Taylor Swift photo with her cat was genius.

    Trump campaign was basically trolled with that.

    They will likely lose the suburban female demographic again. They knew they did poorly in 2016 and 2020, but did nothing to improve as far as I can tell. The cat lady sysndrome is what it is. You can dismiss them as JD Vance as "narcissists who are obsessed with their own feelings, and how others make them feel..." but these are voters.Your job is to win votes in this huge demographic.  I think he made some attempts in the debate at backing off of abortion, distancing himself from that--it is creepy to have the governemnt tell you what to do with your body...at least he took a softer stance on that issue, called it a state's issue, and that was acceptable. It's not abortion, tho, or it's not enough--it's your sarcasm and bristly energy that is the putoff....the demenaor makes the "cat ladies" uncomfortable and "hissy" Many want to show him their murder mittens....Kamala provoked him effectively, and the photo of T.S. with her cat was the perfect "hahaha---gotchya," celebration in the endzone after a TD. It was posted right after the debate.

    He wasn't going to do better in that demographic anyways, trump's abrasiveness is irreperable, and his past comments are unforgiveable. Noone to blame but himself.The advisors knew, but failed to reach him.

    it does come down to Pa, and those 18 electoral college votes. Uupdated Nate Silver predictions for Pa will come out soon, and I'm certain will show a shift towards Harris, and it will be because of trump losing the female suburban voters yet again and decisively.

     

     

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    The Taylor Swift photo with her cat was genius.

    Trump campaign was basically trolled with that.

    They will likely lose the suburban female demographic again. They knew they did poorly in 2016 and 2020, but did nothing to improve as far as I can tell. The cat lady sysndrome is what it is. You can dismiss them as JD Vance as "narcissists who are obsessed with their own feelings, and how others make them feel..." but these are voters.Your job is to win votes in this huge demographic.  I think he made some attempts in the debate at backing off of abortion, distancing himself from that--it is creepy to have the governemnt tell you what to do with your body...at least he took a softer stance on that issue, called it a state's issue, and that was acceptable. It's not abortion, tho, or it's not enough--it's your sarcasm and bristly energy that is the putoff....the demenaor makes the "cat ladies" uncomfortable and "hissy" Many want to show him their murder mittens....Kamala provoked him effectively, and the photo of T.S. with her cat was the perfect "hahaha---gotchya," celebration in the endzone after a TD. It was posted right after the debate.

    He wasn't going to do better in that demographic anyways, trump's abrasiveness is irreperable, and his past comments are unforgiveable. Noone to blame but himself.The advisors knew, but failed to reach him.

    it does come down to Pa, and those 18 electoral college votes. Uupdated Nate Silver predictions for Pa will come out soon, and I'm certain will show a shift towards Harris, and it will be because of trump losing the female suburban voters yet again and decisively.

     

     

     
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    And sad that an election can come down to one State and its electoral votes...not majority, but rather a few selected States....re dick u lous system

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    And sad that an election can come down to one State and its electoral votes...not majority, but rather a few selected States....re dick u lous system

     
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    an_police an_ref Fact check:


    Rapist/FELON falsely claims every poll says he won the debate

     


    Daniel Dale, CNN —

    Former President Donald Trump has returned to his
    time-honored tradition: citing  "nogus online polls"
    to claim he was the clear winner of a presidential
    debate that scientific polls showed he lost.

    He wrote on social media on Wednesday afternoon:
        “Every Poll has us WINNING, in one case, 92-8,
         so why would I do a Rematch?”

       “We won the debate according to every poll —
        every single poll, I think,” Trump told reporters later.

     

    Facts First: Trump’s claim is false!


    As of Thursday morning, every major scientific poll about the debate — ie, every poll that used random sampling techniques to try to obtain a representative picture of US public opinion — had found that Harris won. an_2drinks

    But the polls Trump uses to claim he won were unscientific "junk polls" — open questions posted online — that allowed an unlimited number of people to click and respond, no matter how old they are, or what country they live in, making the results totally useless as a measure of US public opinion.

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    Rapist/FELON falsely claims every poll says he won the debate

     


    Daniel Dale, CNN —

    Former President Donald Trump has returned to his
    time-honored tradition: citing  "nogus online polls"
    to claim he was the clear winner of a presidential
    debate that scientific polls showed he lost.

    He wrote on social media on Wednesday afternoon:
        “Every Poll has us WINNING, in one case, 92-8,
         so why would I do a Rematch?”

       “We won the debate according to every poll —
        every single poll, I think,” Trump told reporters later.

     

    Facts First: Trump’s claim is false!


    As of Thursday morning, every major scientific poll about the debate — ie, every poll that used random sampling techniques to try to obtain a representative picture of US public opinion — had found that Harris won. an_2drinks

    But the polls Trump uses to claim he won were unscientific "junk polls" — open questions posted online — that allowed an unlimited number of people to click and respond, no matter how old they are, or what country they live in, making the results totally useless as a measure of US public opinion.

     
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    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1834305209805242764?t=iytyfHQaXQypt3mmkReivw&s=19

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    an_police  Fox News Power Rankings

     

    show Georgia, North Carolina now shift to toss-up states an_cheers

     

     

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    show Georgia, North Carolina now shift to toss-up states an_cheers

     

     

     
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     Correcto, the EC is an outdated tool that should be retired but then if it was the GOP would have to work harder at the popular vote and they would rather try and scheme through this EC when the purpose it served is no longer valid.

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     Correcto, the EC is an outdated tool that should be retired but then if it was the GOP would have to work harder at the popular vote and they would rather try and scheme through this EC when the purpose it served is no longer valid.

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    Fox News Power Rankings:
    Trump loses his edge as we brace again for post-debate impact

     

    FOX NEWS, September 12:


         Former President Donald Trump  [a convicted FELON]
    has lost his edge in Georgia and North Carolina in the
    latest Fox News Power Rankings, giving Vice President
    Harris a lead in the overall forecast for the first time.  

    Debate watchers declared Harris the winner of Tuesday’s debate. win

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    Trump loses his edge as we brace again for post-debate impact

     

    FOX NEWS, September 12:


         Former President Donald Trump  [a convicted FELON]
    has lost his edge in Georgia and North Carolina in the
    latest Fox News Power Rankings, giving Vice President
    Harris a lead in the overall forecast for the first time.  

    Debate watchers declared Harris the winner of Tuesday’s debate. win

     
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     Show me where I said "us" right leaning posters. I don't fit into a box politically. I make my own decisions on each individual issue. There are beliefs I hold that would see me labeled a tea party nationalistic conservative. There are beliefs I hold that would see me labeled a Bernie Sanders socialist. Our two party system is just political theatre as far as i'm concerned.

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     Show me where I said "us" right leaning posters. I don't fit into a box politically. I make my own decisions on each individual issue. There are beliefs I hold that would see me labeled a tea party nationalistic conservative. There are beliefs I hold that would see me labeled a Bernie Sanders socialist. Our two party system is just political theatre as far as i'm concerned.

     
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     And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.

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     And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Fox News Power Rankings:

    Trump loses his edge as we brace again for post-debate impact

     

     

    FOX NEWS, September 12:


         Former President Donald Trump  [a convicted FELON]
    has lost his edge in Georgia and North Carolina in the
    latest Fox News Power Rankings, giving Vice President
    Harris a lead in the overall forecast for the first time.  

    Debate watchers declared Harris the winner of Tuesday’s debate.

    not according to maga bubble      they believe rump is leading everything

     

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    Fox News Power Rankings:

    Trump loses his edge as we brace again for post-debate impact

     

     

    FOX NEWS, September 12:


         Former President Donald Trump  [a convicted FELON]
    has lost his edge in Georgia and North Carolina in the
    latest Fox News Power Rankings, giving Vice President
    Harris a lead in the overall forecast for the first time.  

    Debate watchers declared Harris the winner of Tuesday’s debate.

    not according to maga bubble      they believe rump is leading everything

     

     
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    an_police  Veteran Republican strategist Karl Rove:

     

     

    an_blowhorn   “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.
                 Mr Trump was crushed by a woman
                he previously dismissed as ‘dumb as a rock’.
         Which raises the question: What does that make him?”

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    an_blowhorn   “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.
                 Mr Trump was crushed by a woman
                he previously dismissed as ‘dumb as a rock’.
         Which raises the question: What does that make him?”

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @MrWhatsItToYa  And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.
    that's outstanding stuff...only reasonable people will understand or get it...an_clap

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    @MrWhatsItToYa  And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.
    that's outstanding stuff...only reasonable people will understand or get it...an_clap

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Veteran Republican strategist Karl Rove:

     

    an_blowhorn   “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.
                  Mr Trump was crushed by a woman
                 he previously dismissed as ‘dumb as a rock’.
         Which raises the question: What does that make him?”

    crushed by a woman    a democrat thumbs_up

     

     

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    Veteran Republican strategist Karl Rove:

     

    an_blowhorn   “There’s no putting lipstick on this pig.
                  Mr Trump was crushed by a woman
                 he previously dismissed as ‘dumb as a rock’.
         Which raises the question: What does that make him?”

    crushed by a woman    a democrat thumbs_up

     

     

     
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     the 3 haters i was referring to were Harris and the two moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis.  All 3 were clearly against Trump, but Davis and Linsey obviously got the memo from Bob Iger to not make his friend look bad.  Iger set Harris up with Doug Emhoff on their first date.

    Now IF Harris really wants another debate, the only way Trump will agree to one is if it's moderated by Fox News.  Since Trump did two debates already with Liberal networks, and Trump knows he will get a fair shake on the questions asked in that scenario, he would say YES to that.  But we all know Harris's camp will NEVER allow that, her camp almost didn't do this debate because she couldn't have notes.  Can you imagine the questions Hannity would drop on Harris in a debate?  

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     the 3 haters i was referring to were Harris and the two moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis.  All 3 were clearly against Trump, but Davis and Linsey obviously got the memo from Bob Iger to not make his friend look bad.  Iger set Harris up with Doug Emhoff on their first date.

    Now IF Harris really wants another debate, the only way Trump will agree to one is if it's moderated by Fox News.  Since Trump did two debates already with Liberal networks, and Trump knows he will get a fair shake on the questions asked in that scenario, he would say YES to that.  But we all know Harris's camp will NEVER allow that, her camp almost didn't do this debate because she couldn't have notes.  Can you imagine the questions Hannity would drop on Harris in a debate?  

     
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     I read you posts, and for the most part you are more informed of the political shitshow than about 90% of voters in this election.  But your last post you said 

    it does come down to Pa, and those 18 electoral college votes - 

    This is a very likely scenario so why do you think it's going to Harris?  Let's not forget there are roughly 500,000 Fracking jobs in PA, and over 600,000 veterans in PA.  Now the left will say the veterans hate Trump for a debunked losers quote but the veterans remember the horrendous Afghan pullout Harris was knee deep in that decision.  They remember Biden looking at his watch when the 13 came home.  They remember just recently when the families of the 13 invited Trump to the graves and neither Joe or Kamala showed up, most likely they were not invited which speak volumes in that particular voting group.  

    just those two groups is over a million votes, this state will be the last closed out and re-counts galore 

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     I read you posts, and for the most part you are more informed of the political shitshow than about 90% of voters in this election.  But your last post you said 

    it does come down to Pa, and those 18 electoral college votes - 

    This is a very likely scenario so why do you think it's going to Harris?  Let's not forget there are roughly 500,000 Fracking jobs in PA, and over 600,000 veterans in PA.  Now the left will say the veterans hate Trump for a debunked losers quote but the veterans remember the horrendous Afghan pullout Harris was knee deep in that decision.  They remember Biden looking at his watch when the 13 came home.  They remember just recently when the families of the 13 invited Trump to the graves and neither Joe or Kamala showed up, most likely they were not invited which speak volumes in that particular voting group.  

    just those two groups is over a million votes, this state will be the last closed out and re-counts galore 

     
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    The link below is from Megyn Kelly. Amazingly posters inside Covers believe the Trump/harris debate was legit. More than likely harris received the questions from ABC in advance. Plus. Photos reveal that she might have been wearing an earpiece like Seal Team members wear so somebody could help her along the way.  The great Megyn Kelly follows!

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    The link below is from Megyn Kelly. Amazingly posters inside Covers believe the Trump/harris debate was legit. More than likely harris received the questions from ABC in advance. Plus. Photos reveal that she might have been wearing an earpiece like Seal Team members wear so somebody could help her along the way.  The great Megyn Kelly follows!

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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2024 - 4:36 AM ET #123

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @MrWhatsItToYa  And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.
    Are the 1st 2 sentences talking about Spock,is Spock the "he" you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    @MrWhatsItToYa  And what you said about sums up exactly what i'm talking about. He doesn't even really post opinions about politics but if he isn't lock step with every liberal narrative, if he is critical of the moderation, he must be a maga conservative. I have had a moderator of this forum read me the riot act about "my side" and how we carry on and yet you can't really even say I have a "side" based on my posts. If you aren't lock step with one side, you must be the other. And if you are the other, you are the enemy, and will be treated as such. That's how this forum is moderated. Wallstreet has too much skin in the game to evhave any chance at being an unbiased, impartial moderator. He engages far too much to really be considered a moderator. He has valid opinions, granted. He is a knowledgeable and insightful guy. If he wants to engage in discourse, be a regular member. That isn't and shouldn't be the place of a moderator.
    Are the 1st 2 sentences talking about Spock,is Spock the "he" you are talking about?

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2024 - 4:43 AM ET #124

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     If we are still going to bring up things about boxing me.I'll ask you again,bring up the exact thing I said that a "right leaning poster" would of been boxed for doing.

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     If we are still going to bring up things about boxing me.I'll ask you again,bring up the exact thing I said that a "right leaning poster" would of been boxed for doing.

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2024 - 4:55 AM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    @MrWhatsItToYa  the 3 haters i was referring to were Harris and the two moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis.  All 3 were clearly against Trump, but Davis and Linsey obviously got the memo from Bob Iger to not make his friend look bad.  Iger set Harris up with Doug Emhoff on their first date. Now IF Harris really wants another debate, the only way Trump will agree to one is if it's moderated by Fox News.  Since Trump did two debates already with Liberal networks, and Trump knows he will get a fair shake on the questions asked in that scenario, he would say YES to that.  But we all know Harris's camp will NEVER allow that, her camp almost didn't do this debate because she couldn't have notes.  Can you imagine the questions Hannity would drop on Harris in a debate?
    Ya ok,of course everybody is always against trump,always the poor victim.Every time somebody asks him a question he doesn't like he cries,remember Megan Kelly.Gee she worked for fox but asked him a question he didn't like,and what happened.The fox newscasters who said he lost this debate,boom there he goes they are all assholes.He won't even do a fox debate if certain newscasters are the ones who will moderate.Chicken shit needs to handpick his own moderators (Sean,Waters or Laura) or else he won't do it.No chicken shit said he won't do anymore debates,cause he knows she'll kick his ass again.

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    @MrWhatsItToYa  the 3 haters i was referring to were Harris and the two moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis.  All 3 were clearly against Trump, but Davis and Linsey obviously got the memo from Bob Iger to not make his friend look bad.  Iger set Harris up with Doug Emhoff on their first date. Now IF Harris really wants another debate, the only way Trump will agree to one is if it's moderated by Fox News.  Since Trump did two debates already with Liberal networks, and Trump knows he will get a fair shake on the questions asked in that scenario, he would say YES to that.  But we all know Harris's camp will NEVER allow that, her camp almost didn't do this debate because she couldn't have notes.  Can you imagine the questions Hannity would drop on Harris in a debate?
    Ya ok,of course everybody is always against trump,always the poor victim.Every time somebody asks him a question he doesn't like he cries,remember Megan Kelly.Gee she worked for fox but asked him a question he didn't like,and what happened.The fox newscasters who said he lost this debate,boom there he goes they are all assholes.He won't even do a fox debate if certain newscasters are the ones who will moderate.Chicken shit needs to handpick his own moderators (Sean,Waters or Laura) or else he won't do it.No chicken shit said he won't do anymore debates,cause he knows she'll kick his ass again.

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