California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida, despite Governor Ron Desantis’ state orders banning mask and vaccine mandates. Similarly, as of November 11, California’s seven-day death rate per 1 million people was eleven times higher than Florida’s.
Again, why retry something that obviously did not work the first time and is shown to not have much of an affect anywhere it has been tried?Do they really think it is a ‘winter surge’?Or do they think it is a mask mandate surge?
Why keep trying something that is not backed by medical science and does not make common sense?If folks want to wear a mask and feel safer wearing a mask — let them wear one.But don’t mandate fully ‘vaccinated’ folks wear one — or, even, fully recovered Wuhan folks.
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California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida, despite Governor Ron Desantis’ state orders banning mask and vaccine mandates. Similarly, as of November 11, California’s seven-day death rate per 1 million people was eleven times higher than Florida’s.
Again, why retry something that obviously did not work the first time and is shown to not have much of an affect anywhere it has been tried?Do they really think it is a ‘winter surge’?Or do they think it is a mask mandate surge?
Why keep trying something that is not backed by medical science and does not make common sense?If folks want to wear a mask and feel safer wearing a mask — let them wear one.But don’t mandate fully ‘vaccinated’ folks wear one — or, even, fully recovered Wuhan folks.
California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida,
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
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California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida,
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida, Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
I do not know if you are intentionally conflating two different things here or not. Do not confuse case rate and death rate. Are you saying people that live in California and get Wuhan are more likely to die than people that live in Florida and get Wuhan. Even though older folks live in Florida. But if you are only talking about case rate — there are huge problems with using this ‘statistic’ to determine policy.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: California’s COVID transmission rate is higher than many states in the South, most of which have fewer pandemic restrictions, according to data from the CDC. As of November 21, California’s seven-case average was more than twice that of Florida, Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
I do not know if you are intentionally conflating two different things here or not. Do not confuse case rate and death rate. Are you saying people that live in California and get Wuhan are more likely to die than people that live in Florida and get Wuhan. Even though older folks live in Florida. But if you are only talking about case rate — there are huge problems with using this ‘statistic’ to determine policy.
Please don’t use this as your sole method of comparison.Try to understand the problems when you do this.Most of the issues using this, especially to determine policy and mandates, still exist since we looked at this at the start of this.
For example:
On November 18, Mayor Bill de Blasioannounced he was temporarily closingthe nation’s largest public-school system on the basis of one coronavirus statistic: the positivity rate. The city’s average rate exceeded 3 percent for the first time since June, which was taken to indicate that the virus’s spread could soon spiral dangerously out of control. Now, on December 7, de Blasio will reopen public elementary schools regardless of the fact that the city’s average positivity has climbed above 5 percent. The shift hints at the troublesome nature of a coronavirus statistic that heavily influences major decisions surrounding the pandemic in numerous states, counties, and school districts nationwide.
The number is deceptively basic. It’s the percentage of positive virus tests among all virus tests performed, both positives and negatives. It may reflect the level of disease transmission in a community, but a sudden rise in a particular location could mean an increase in infections coupled with a need for more testing of the general population, among whom the rate is probably lower. The positivity rate statistic grew popular this spring during an early, catastrophic lack of testing. As tests became more available, a large portion came back positive, indicating there was not enough testing to keep up with the explosive spread of the virus. In May, the World Health Organization recommended that governments use a positivity rate of 5 percent or lower lasting for two weeks as a threshold for reopening.
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Please don’t use this as your sole method of comparison.Try to understand the problems when you do this.Most of the issues using this, especially to determine policy and mandates, still exist since we looked at this at the start of this.
For example:
On November 18, Mayor Bill de Blasioannounced he was temporarily closingthe nation’s largest public-school system on the basis of one coronavirus statistic: the positivity rate. The city’s average rate exceeded 3 percent for the first time since June, which was taken to indicate that the virus’s spread could soon spiral dangerously out of control. Now, on December 7, de Blasio will reopen public elementary schools regardless of the fact that the city’s average positivity has climbed above 5 percent. The shift hints at the troublesome nature of a coronavirus statistic that heavily influences major decisions surrounding the pandemic in numerous states, counties, and school districts nationwide.
The number is deceptively basic. It’s the percentage of positive virus tests among all virus tests performed, both positives and negatives. It may reflect the level of disease transmission in a community, but a sudden rise in a particular location could mean an increase in infections coupled with a need for more testing of the general population, among whom the rate is probably lower. The positivity rate statistic grew popular this spring during an early, catastrophic lack of testing. As tests became more available, a large portion came back positive, indicating there was not enough testing to keep up with the explosive spread of the virus. In May, the World Health Organization recommended that governments use a positivity rate of 5 percent or lower lasting for two weeks as a threshold for reopening.
“From then on, there have always been these statements about the percent positivity,” says William Hanage, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health. “And really, it’s just a sort of post-traumatic stress disorder, focusing back on the early stages of the pandemic.”
The positivity rate began to be more widely used by officials and policy-makers to directly gauge the level of the coronavirus’s spread in a community, and that’s where things got sticky.
Under the current nonrandom, voluntary testing that prevails in the U.S., interpreting a positivity rate as an indicator of the spread of an infection is a little like assuming that a pond is well-stocked with fish after catching a few in a large mesh net swept through the water here and there. The positivity rate is an accurate indicator of spread in a community only if tests are taken by a group of people that is representative of an entire community, experts say.
But in nearly all U.S. cities and towns, tests are predominantly taken by people who feel sick, people who have a reason to be worried about being infected, or people who are already sick in the hospital. You’ll get more positives from all those people than you would in the general community, so it can be dicey, especially over longer periods of time, to assume that these inflated positivity rates indicate the level of an infection’s spread. In addition, many people who want a test often cannot get one due to long lines, lack of access to free testing, and limitations on who can receive a test in many parts of the U.S.
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“From then on, there have always been these statements about the percent positivity,” says William Hanage, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Harvard Chan School of Public Health. “And really, it’s just a sort of post-traumatic stress disorder, focusing back on the early stages of the pandemic.”
The positivity rate began to be more widely used by officials and policy-makers to directly gauge the level of the coronavirus’s spread in a community, and that’s where things got sticky.
Under the current nonrandom, voluntary testing that prevails in the U.S., interpreting a positivity rate as an indicator of the spread of an infection is a little like assuming that a pond is well-stocked with fish after catching a few in a large mesh net swept through the water here and there. The positivity rate is an accurate indicator of spread in a community only if tests are taken by a group of people that is representative of an entire community, experts say.
But in nearly all U.S. cities and towns, tests are predominantly taken by people who feel sick, people who have a reason to be worried about being infected, or people who are already sick in the hospital. You’ll get more positives from all those people than you would in the general community, so it can be dicey, especially over longer periods of time, to assume that these inflated positivity rates indicate the level of an infection’s spread. In addition, many people who want a test often cannot get one due to long lines, lack of access to free testing, and limitations on who can receive a test in many parts of the U.S.
“Virtually nowhere is doing this random testing of people on the street,” says Hanage. “And as a result of that, the test positivity statistic is almost meaningless in isolation from other things,” including the raw number of people who test positive for the virus.
Indeed, most researchers avoid relying on any single number such as the positivity rate to understand the status of a community’s outbreak, preferring to examine it alongside other statistics, such as the number of and trend direction for positive coronavirus cases in a community — is the number rising or falling? It’s also crucial nowadays in the U.S. to look at these trends in the context of whether local hospitals have available beds, the extent of testing, and the average age at which people get infected, says Boston University epidemiologist Matthew Fox.
“You sort have to make an educated guess,” Fox says. “And I think that’s why there’s so much frustration, because what we want is a scientific approach that tells us that if you hit this number, then it triggers action and we know that that is going to save lives. And we’re just not there. This [virus] is something we’re newly grappling with.”
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“Virtually nowhere is doing this random testing of people on the street,” says Hanage. “And as a result of that, the test positivity statistic is almost meaningless in isolation from other things,” including the raw number of people who test positive for the virus.
Indeed, most researchers avoid relying on any single number such as the positivity rate to understand the status of a community’s outbreak, preferring to examine it alongside other statistics, such as the number of and trend direction for positive coronavirus cases in a community — is the number rising or falling? It’s also crucial nowadays in the U.S. to look at these trends in the context of whether local hospitals have available beds, the extent of testing, and the average age at which people get infected, says Boston University epidemiologist Matthew Fox.
“You sort have to make an educated guess,” Fox says. “And I think that’s why there’s so much frustration, because what we want is a scientific approach that tells us that if you hit this number, then it triggers action and we know that that is going to save lives. And we’re just not there. This [virus] is something we’re newly grappling with.”
For instance, it would be misleading to base policy on South Dakota’s 448 new infections reported on December 1 without also looking at its eye-popping positivity rate of 42.5 percent. Together these numbers start to paint a picture of a runaway outbreak and insufficient testing. By contrast, New York state on the same day reported over 16 times more new infections (7,413). In the context of the state’s 3.7 percent positivity rate that day, it could suggest a more controlled outbreak and enough testing to inform efforts to control or respond to transmission. But it is not ideal to base policies on these two figures in the absence of community-wide random testing and other data such as local hospital capacities and available beds, equipment, and staffing.
Youyang Gu, an independent data scientist, has used the positivity rate to estimate the actual or true prevalence of coronavirus infections, pegging the national figure at 16 percent, as of November 18. Without commenting directly on Gu’s work, Fox was cautious about the approach. “To get prevalence, you don’t want people coming to you [for testing] because they have symptoms, or because they have a reason to test. You want to just do a random sample of people,” Fox says.
Meanwhile, the positivity rate statistic is so inconsistently calculated and reported across U.S. states that the COVID Tracking Project, one of the nation’s trusted aggregators and reporters of coronavirus data and trends, doesn’t publish it, says Jessica Malaty Rivera, the science communication lead with the project. An October blog postco-authored by Malaty Rivera called positivity rate figures in the U.S. “a mess” and stated that she and her team “emphatically recommend against over-reliance” on it to justify changes in policy.
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For instance, it would be misleading to base policy on South Dakota’s 448 new infections reported on December 1 without also looking at its eye-popping positivity rate of 42.5 percent. Together these numbers start to paint a picture of a runaway outbreak and insufficient testing. By contrast, New York state on the same day reported over 16 times more new infections (7,413). In the context of the state’s 3.7 percent positivity rate that day, it could suggest a more controlled outbreak and enough testing to inform efforts to control or respond to transmission. But it is not ideal to base policies on these two figures in the absence of community-wide random testing and other data such as local hospital capacities and available beds, equipment, and staffing.
Youyang Gu, an independent data scientist, has used the positivity rate to estimate the actual or true prevalence of coronavirus infections, pegging the national figure at 16 percent, as of November 18. Without commenting directly on Gu’s work, Fox was cautious about the approach. “To get prevalence, you don’t want people coming to you [for testing] because they have symptoms, or because they have a reason to test. You want to just do a random sample of people,” Fox says.
Meanwhile, the positivity rate statistic is so inconsistently calculated and reported across U.S. states that the COVID Tracking Project, one of the nation’s trusted aggregators and reporters of coronavirus data and trends, doesn’t publish it, says Jessica Malaty Rivera, the science communication lead with the project. An October blog postco-authored by Malaty Rivera called positivity rate figures in the U.S. “a mess” and stated that she and her team “emphatically recommend against over-reliance” on it to justify changes in policy.
And it’s problematic to compare coronavirus positivity rates across communities because calculation methods vary, Malaty Rivera says. Some states take the standard approach, dividing the total number of tests taken by the number of tests that came up positive for the virus. But other states divide the total number of tests taken by the number of people who test positive. That approach gives you lower positivity rates because some people test more than once within a few days, say when they have symptoms or have recently been exposed to someone with the virus. You’re only counting them once in this second approach, but you would count them each time they tested in the standard approach, yielding a higher percentage of positivity.
More recently, COVID Tracking Project data collectors have noticed that states are including the results of less accurate, less expensive so-called antigen tests, which look for pieces of the virus, not the whole virus, instead of the results of widely used PCR tests for the entire virus, Malaty Rivera says.
“For that reason, I feel especially pessimistic about the future of this calculation,” Malaty Rivera says. “Because if we do see testing increase dramatically, it will be because of an influx in antigen testing. It really should just be PCR testing to determine this. And when we combine units, it’s going back to basic fractions, right? You don’t combine your apples and oranges when you’re doing a math equation.”
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And it’s problematic to compare coronavirus positivity rates across communities because calculation methods vary, Malaty Rivera says. Some states take the standard approach, dividing the total number of tests taken by the number of tests that came up positive for the virus. But other states divide the total number of tests taken by the number of people who test positive. That approach gives you lower positivity rates because some people test more than once within a few days, say when they have symptoms or have recently been exposed to someone with the virus. You’re only counting them once in this second approach, but you would count them each time they tested in the standard approach, yielding a higher percentage of positivity.
More recently, COVID Tracking Project data collectors have noticed that states are including the results of less accurate, less expensive so-called antigen tests, which look for pieces of the virus, not the whole virus, instead of the results of widely used PCR tests for the entire virus, Malaty Rivera says.
“For that reason, I feel especially pessimistic about the future of this calculation,” Malaty Rivera says. “Because if we do see testing increase dramatically, it will be because of an influx in antigen testing. It really should just be PCR testing to determine this. And when we combine units, it’s going back to basic fractions, right? You don’t combine your apples and oranges when you’re doing a math equation.”
None of this means we should entirely discard the positivity rate as a statistic. We just need to evaluate it in the context of who is testing and how much testing is conducted in a community, says Fox. If the number of tests performed over a span of two or three weeks remains more or less constant, he says, and the positivity rate increases, it’s reasonable to interpret that more as increased transmission in that community, and not just as an increased shortage of testing.
And to be fair to Mayor de Blasio, that is what the city’s recent positivity data has looked like. Positive test numbers and COVID-19 hospitalizations in the city also have been rising.
Fox says he doesn’t envy decision-makers during the pandemic, given the economic and epidemiologic complexity of the problem and the extremely limited experience all of us have with this coronavirus, beyond the past several months. “We are learning and adapting and learning and adapting,” he says. “And you learn from successes, but you also learn from failures. And there is no easy, right answer in front of us.”
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None of this means we should entirely discard the positivity rate as a statistic. We just need to evaluate it in the context of who is testing and how much testing is conducted in a community, says Fox. If the number of tests performed over a span of two or three weeks remains more or less constant, he says, and the positivity rate increases, it’s reasonable to interpret that more as increased transmission in that community, and not just as an increased shortage of testing.
And to be fair to Mayor de Blasio, that is what the city’s recent positivity data has looked like. Positive test numbers and COVID-19 hospitalizations in the city also have been rising.
Fox says he doesn’t envy decision-makers during the pandemic, given the economic and epidemiologic complexity of the problem and the extremely limited experience all of us have with this coronavirus, beyond the past several months. “We are learning and adapting and learning and adapting,” he says. “And you learn from successes, but you also learn from failures. And there is no easy, right answer in front of us.”
It continues to amaze me folks still use a non-scientific piece of information, that clearly does not give the whole picture, to determine policy. There has been, and still is, a whole lot of inconsistency with this ‘statistic’.
But amazing that this is the one thing you took away from what I originally posted.
I guess this just further demonstrates the lack of the general public to critically view this issue instead of following the narrative of the media and politicians.
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It continues to amaze me folks still use a non-scientific piece of information, that clearly does not give the whole picture, to determine policy. There has been, and still is, a whole lot of inconsistency with this ‘statistic’.
But amazing that this is the one thing you took away from what I originally posted.
I guess this just further demonstrates the lack of the general public to critically view this issue instead of following the narrative of the media and politicians.
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
good stuff thirdperson
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
good stuff thirdperson
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
good stuff thirdperson
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Actually, California has lower covid case rate than many states in the south. Since beginning of pandemic, California case rate is 12780 per 100,000 residents according to Statista. Whereas Florida case rate is 17,327. If Florida has California covid death rate, thousands of Floridians would still be alive for Thanksgiving. Nearly 2 years of data is more statistically significant than data in any 7 days period which can change often.
The brilliance of the people inside the biden administration appeared once again. The Surgeon General of the United States threw the American people a huge bone on Sunday. You will be able to enjoy Christmas inside your home with your family if fully vaccinated and wearing your protective covering called a mask!
Has anybody else besides me had enough?
FJB! Let's Go Brandon!
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The brilliance of the people inside the biden administration appeared once again. The Surgeon General of the United States threw the American people a huge bone on Sunday. You will be able to enjoy Christmas inside your home with your family if fully vaccinated and wearing your protective covering called a mask!
Has anybody had enough of men turning themselves in to women then defeating biological females in sporting events? Take a look at 'Precious' inside the link with all of her/his arrogance. Somebody needs to put a stop to this. Let the tranny's have their own competition. Maybe you will have a 50 meter free style contest with 2 people somewhere across the country.
Has anybody had enough of men turning themselves in to women then defeating biological females in sporting events? Take a look at 'Precious' inside the link with all of her/his arrogance. Somebody needs to put a stop to this. Let the tranny's have their own competition. Maybe you will have a 50 meter free style contest with 2 people somewhere across the country.
The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.
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The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.
The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.
Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet.
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The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.
Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet.
It continues to amaze me folks still use a non-scientific piece of information, that clearly does not give the whole picture, to determine policy. There has been, and still is, a whole lot of inconsistency with this ‘statistic’. But amazing that this is the one thing you took away from what I originally posted. I guess this just further demonstrates the lack of the general public to critically view this issue instead of following the narrative of the media and politicians.
The sheep are gonna sheeple....
America First
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It continues to amaze me folks still use a non-scientific piece of information, that clearly does not give the whole picture, to determine policy. There has been, and still is, a whole lot of inconsistency with this ‘statistic’. But amazing that this is the one thing you took away from what I originally posted. I guess this just further demonstrates the lack of the general public to critically view this issue instead of following the narrative of the media and politicians.
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet.
Quit being s cheap lib! put more water in your toilet!
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet.
Quit being s cheap lib! put more water in your toilet!
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet. Quit being s cheap lib! put more water in your toilet!
Yo dumb*ss I wasn't talking about my toilet,I was talking about when your orange idol was crying about having to flush the toilet 15 times.
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by sundance: The insanity of the Left is on perpetual display. They are actually sitting down while drinking cheap wine discussing the elimination of gas stoves! Has anybody else had enough? Liberalism is truly a mental disorder! You can read the 'mental disorder' on a daily basis inside the hallowed pages of Covers.Ya maybe they should stick to the high tech problems that trump was trying to solve,like why it takes 15 times to flush the toilet. Quit being s cheap lib! put more water in your toilet!
Yo dumb*ss I wasn't talking about my toilet,I was talking about when your orange idol was crying about having to flush the toilet 15 times.
It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it?
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@scooby-doos
It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it?
@scooby-doos It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it?
Have the finest 'Double' on me! You need one!
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
@scooby-doos It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it?
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @scooby-doos It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it? Have the finest 'Double' on me! You need one!
See scooby I rest my case.Can you decipher WTF he's trying to say with "Have the finest double on me!You need one!"
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @scooby-doos It's not a question about if he agrees with me or not.It's a question of someone being smart enough to read something,and have their response to my post have something to do with what he supposedly read in my post.I said in my post #42 that trump was trying to solve the problem of why he had to flush the toilet 15 times.This guys response is "quit being a cheap lib,put more water in your toilet".Like trump would of been talking about my toilet,and it not being able to flush,how would trump know if my toilet didn't have enough water in it? Have the finest 'Double' on me! You need one!
See scooby I rest my case.Can you decipher WTF he's trying to say with "Have the finest double on me!You need one!"
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