The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year.
Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.)
DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs
– and can be associated with a condition where a female body
naturally produces more testosterone than others.
DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop.
It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits.
- CNN
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This is "the science"
The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year.
Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.)
DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs
– and can be associated with a condition where a female body
naturally produces more testosterone than others.
DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop.
It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits.
@BigGame90 Im saying before the Trump-NC machine slanders there should be proof FIRST. The problem is this, the Trump-NC is not interested in the Olympics or equity for women in sports...they are interested in the sensational, in being square in front of the issues of the day and getting attention, drawing eyes to content and to the vote booth. If the Trump-NC really cares about the Olympics and gender equity then take it through the responsible, legal channels and spend resources and time investigating the issues. Obtain change through respectful and legitimate channels. No...Rogan, Trump-NC, Fox, Lake, etc etc have absolutely ZERO interest in this story or doing justice for equity, this hot potato will be dropped and discarded, the damage to the athlete has been done and there will be no recourse no investigation no true honest DD...just slander slander slander...move on to the next slander hit job and continue through the election cycle and then the target will be steal the vote, slander election workers or voting machines or election officials, slander slander slander.
Im saying before the Trump-NC machine slanders there should be proof FIRST- There is proof that the individual failed a test. The science IS the proof in this instance.
The problem is this, the Trump-NC is not interested in the Olympics or equity for women in sports This is the problem. If you allow men into womens sports YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT WOMEN AND THEIR EQUITY. Your statement is backwards. If you care about women, you WOULD NOT WANT MEN IN WOMENS SPORTS. They biologically have an advantage. Especially pound for pound.
I don't want to even read the rest of your statement or else I feel like I'd go past the characters limits in this box.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Im saying before the Trump-NC machine slanders there should be proof FIRST. The problem is this, the Trump-NC is not interested in the Olympics or equity for women in sports...they are interested in the sensational, in being square in front of the issues of the day and getting attention, drawing eyes to content and to the vote booth. If the Trump-NC really cares about the Olympics and gender equity then take it through the responsible, legal channels and spend resources and time investigating the issues. Obtain change through respectful and legitimate channels. No...Rogan, Trump-NC, Fox, Lake, etc etc have absolutely ZERO interest in this story or doing justice for equity, this hot potato will be dropped and discarded, the damage to the athlete has been done and there will be no recourse no investigation no true honest DD...just slander slander slander...move on to the next slander hit job and continue through the election cycle and then the target will be steal the vote, slander election workers or voting machines or election officials, slander slander slander.
Im saying before the Trump-NC machine slanders there should be proof FIRST- There is proof that the individual failed a test. The science IS the proof in this instance.
The problem is this, the Trump-NC is not interested in the Olympics or equity for women in sports This is the problem. If you allow men into womens sports YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT WOMEN AND THEIR EQUITY. Your statement is backwards. If you care about women, you WOULD NOT WANT MEN IN WOMENS SPORTS. They biologically have an advantage. Especially pound for pound.
I don't want to even read the rest of your statement or else I feel like I'd go past the characters limits in this box.
The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year.
Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.)
DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs
– and can be associated with a condition where a female body
naturally produces more testosterone than others.
DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop.
It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits.
- CNN
In March 2023, Khelif came under the spotlight for another reason: the IBA disqualified her from a gold medal match
The IBA, which was stripped of its recognition as the official boxing body for the Games by the IOC for corruption and financial related issues, also disqualified featherweight Taiwanese boxer Lin Yu-ting boxer for the same reason.
But the details of the IBA tests which allege discrepancies are being held secret by the IBA
Oddly, they claim to have run the same tests on Khelif the year before (2022) but did nothing at that time and did not disclose the results
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
This is "the science"
The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year.
Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.)
DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs
– and can be associated with a condition where a female body
naturally produces more testosterone than others.
DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop.
It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits.
- CNN
In March 2023, Khelif came under the spotlight for another reason: the IBA disqualified her from a gold medal match
The IBA, which was stripped of its recognition as the official boxing body for the Games by the IOC for corruption and financial related issues, also disqualified featherweight Taiwanese boxer Lin Yu-ting boxer for the same reason.
But the details of the IBA tests which allege discrepancies are being held secret by the IBA
Oddly, they claim to have run the same tests on Khelif the year before (2022) but did nothing at that time and did not disclose the results
In the end the truth is that the Trump-NC is about slander, sensational attention and creating division in society. I hope that once the elections are done, the Olympics are in the mirror that the Trump-NC will hire lawyers, hire scientists, pay for lab testing and court costs to truly secure equity for female athletes and make an impact for future events.
I hope Trump makes a social media campaign and spends time and effort to make a difference for the issue of equity in all sports and especially the Olympics. If the Trump-NC were to dedicate honest and sincere efforts to thoroughly investigate this topic and research it using science and data, the world will be sincerely grateful.
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@BigGame90
In the end the truth is that the Trump-NC is about slander, sensational attention and creating division in society. I hope that once the elections are done, the Olympics are in the mirror that the Trump-NC will hire lawyers, hire scientists, pay for lab testing and court costs to truly secure equity for female athletes and make an impact for future events.
I hope Trump makes a social media campaign and spends time and effort to make a difference for the issue of equity in all sports and especially the Olympics. If the Trump-NC were to dedicate honest and sincere efforts to thoroughly investigate this topic and research it using science and data, the world will be sincerely grateful.
Scientifically, only women are competing against women in Paris Olympics. Female boxers pass all the medical tests to qualify. Normal for all of them to have elevated levels of testosterone. International Olympics committee doubts the accuracy of tests from International boxing association. Their boxers have been victims of arbitrary decisions without due process. IBA has been permanently banned from Olympic games because of a history of corruption and ties to Russian organized crime. For example, manipulation of bouts. According to wikipedia, IBA has promoted false claims about Olympic boxers.
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Scientifically, only women are competing against women in Paris Olympics. Female boxers pass all the medical tests to qualify. Normal for all of them to have elevated levels of testosterone. International Olympics committee doubts the accuracy of tests from International boxing association. Their boxers have been victims of arbitrary decisions without due process. IBA has been permanently banned from Olympic games because of a history of corruption and ties to Russian organized crime. For example, manipulation of bouts. According to wikipedia, IBA has promoted false claims about Olympic boxers.
Time will tell if he wins. Add this to the list of topics he's said he'll help fix and then hold him accountable if he wins, in due time. I'd rather hear Trump say he'll protect women in women's sports, then the left saying they'll cancel your debts or give you fReE healthcare.
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@wallstreetcappers
Time will tell if he wins. Add this to the list of topics he's said he'll help fix and then hold him accountable if he wins, in due time. I'd rather hear Trump say he'll protect women in women's sports, then the left saying they'll cancel your debts or give you fReE healthcare.
You will hear or see zippo from the Trump-NC on this topic let alone any impactful effort. I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious.
Since when does Trump care about anyone but himself or serving a narrative he gains from?
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@BigGame90
You are joking on that reply right...
You will hear or see zippo from the Trump-NC on this topic let alone any impactful effort. I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious.
Since when does Trump care about anyone but himself or serving a narrative he gains from?
@BigGame90 You are joking on that reply right... You will hear or see zippo from the Trump-NC on this topic let alone any impactful effort. I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious. Since when does TrumpANY POLITICIAN care about anyone but himself or serving a narrative he gains from?
Fixed your reply.
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@wallstreetcappers
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 You are joking on that reply right... You will hear or see zippo from the Trump-NC on this topic let alone any impactful effort. I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious. Since when does TrumpANY POLITICIAN care about anyone but himself or serving a narrative he gains from?
Nah just Trump since his hate machine started this and ran with it across the spectrum its pretty much about his political party. So is that the answer though that no politician cares about follow through and effort for the common citizen?
For how wacky Sanders is at least that guy gives a crap about people, even with his flawed extreme socialism agenda the guy regularly goes to bat for the common citizen and makes efforts WITHOUT making a media spectacle of himself. He is a great example of a politician who has some moral structure and isnt a zero hate filled loser.
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@BigGame90
Nah just Trump since his hate machine started this and ran with it across the spectrum its pretty much about his political party. So is that the answer though that no politician cares about follow through and effort for the common citizen?
For how wacky Sanders is at least that guy gives a crap about people, even with his flawed extreme socialism agenda the guy regularly goes to bat for the common citizen and makes efforts WITHOUT making a media spectacle of himself. He is a great example of a politician who has some moral structure and isnt a zero hate filled loser.
Right...the usual retort but the problem is you have actual facts, evidence and direct examples of your guy being the worst. So finger point all you like does that mean if someone else ticks you off that you destroy them at a multiple of what was done to you? Just using your logic and thought process here.
There is no person I can compare to how toxic and hollow that Trump-NC is and that includes Junior, two warped wrecked no ego losers. I might say that Dice Clay comedian was extremely disgusting but his was an act, I dont know of a more vile and hateful person who has access to the media than Trump.
Why the blame deflection anyway, are you as a person unable to take responsibility for actions, choices, thoughts and deeds that you do or the party you support does? What someone else does has ZERO impact on what you decide to do and how you decide to act, how you treat others, the way you hate others and stomp on them even if they are your enemy. Shouldnt the objective be to be better than the crap around you? That concept has no value in the Trump-NC, the narrative is to forward HIS views and wreck anyone and everyone who does not fall in line with him. I see no example of being better than someone who has harmed you or pretty much all Christian pillars of how to live your life.
I dont fault the Trump-NC for decisions I make, I choose based on a high standard of myself even when there are plenty of reasons I could tantrum my way down to a child like level of retaliation and rationalize doing so.
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Right...the usual retort but the problem is you have actual facts, evidence and direct examples of your guy being the worst. So finger point all you like does that mean if someone else ticks you off that you destroy them at a multiple of what was done to you? Just using your logic and thought process here.
There is no person I can compare to how toxic and hollow that Trump-NC is and that includes Junior, two warped wrecked no ego losers. I might say that Dice Clay comedian was extremely disgusting but his was an act, I dont know of a more vile and hateful person who has access to the media than Trump.
Why the blame deflection anyway, are you as a person unable to take responsibility for actions, choices, thoughts and deeds that you do or the party you support does? What someone else does has ZERO impact on what you decide to do and how you decide to act, how you treat others, the way you hate others and stomp on them even if they are your enemy. Shouldnt the objective be to be better than the crap around you? That concept has no value in the Trump-NC, the narrative is to forward HIS views and wreck anyone and everyone who does not fall in line with him. I see no example of being better than someone who has harmed you or pretty much all Christian pillars of how to live your life.
I dont fault the Trump-NC for decisions I make, I choose based on a high standard of myself even when there are plenty of reasons I could tantrum my way down to a child like level of retaliation and rationalize doing so.
The left has a lot of mean words but doesn't give many examples. Please site specific examples when you use those words, otherwise, they are just negative words that you use to slander.
The left thinks Musk, Trump and anyone who criticizes these boxers are slanderous, but they are going off the failed chromosomes tests so there is in fact, scientifical facts to support that the boxer has male traits. It's actually the left that is slandering Musk and Trump for claiming they are the ones slandering. You and left think calling an XY a male is slanderous, but it's a fact the human has male chromosomes. Or was the testing wrong? If you want to claim someone is slandering when they are using facts, the one claiming slander is the one slandering. I hope Musk and Trumps goes after everyone that claimed Musk and Trump committed slander because those that claimed slander are the actually ones slandering.
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@wallstreetcappers
The left has a lot of mean words but doesn't give many examples. Please site specific examples when you use those words, otherwise, they are just negative words that you use to slander.
The left thinks Musk, Trump and anyone who criticizes these boxers are slanderous, but they are going off the failed chromosomes tests so there is in fact, scientifical facts to support that the boxer has male traits. It's actually the left that is slandering Musk and Trump for claiming they are the ones slandering. You and left think calling an XY a male is slanderous, but it's a fact the human has male chromosomes. Or was the testing wrong? If you want to claim someone is slandering when they are using facts, the one claiming slander is the one slandering. I hope Musk and Trumps goes after everyone that claimed Musk and Trump committed slander because those that claimed slander are the actually ones slandering.
Two things, I addressed the Olympics stuff but as usual you are either not paying attention or you just dont care so either way you are tuned out to any narrative that is not served via the Trump-NC. The Olympics stuff is exactly the same problem as I am talking about here regarding holding yourself to a higher standard no matter what the reason is or the rationalization is. The WRONG thing to do is what Musk and Grizzly Adams and Greene and many other TNC machine parts did, attack the athlete who was approved to participate. The RIGHT thing to do is investigate truth and data outside of making a farking spectacle of yourself and slandering someone. No....that is the TNC narrative, slander slander slander because they have no fear of financial recourse or legal prison recourse for slandering. So the TNC attack machine slanders away knowing that this Olympic athlete is not funded or legal weaponized even close to what the TNC is so there is like ZERO chance of risk to the TNC, thus slander slander slander.
Your original comment about no examples is just insulting to the intelligence of any living breathing individual, examples there are in the thousands of how toxic, hollow, abusive and disgusting the TNC is, that includes multiple players not just King-Zero...
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@BigGame90
Two things, I addressed the Olympics stuff but as usual you are either not paying attention or you just dont care so either way you are tuned out to any narrative that is not served via the Trump-NC. The Olympics stuff is exactly the same problem as I am talking about here regarding holding yourself to a higher standard no matter what the reason is or the rationalization is. The WRONG thing to do is what Musk and Grizzly Adams and Greene and many other TNC machine parts did, attack the athlete who was approved to participate. The RIGHT thing to do is investigate truth and data outside of making a farking spectacle of yourself and slandering someone. No....that is the TNC narrative, slander slander slander because they have no fear of financial recourse or legal prison recourse for slandering. So the TNC attack machine slanders away knowing that this Olympic athlete is not funded or legal weaponized even close to what the TNC is so there is like ZERO chance of risk to the TNC, thus slander slander slander.
Your original comment about no examples is just insulting to the intelligence of any living breathing individual, examples there are in the thousands of how toxic, hollow, abusive and disgusting the TNC is, that includes multiple players not just King-Zero...
Ok you insult me again like that outside the box then you will see what happens. I love how you stoop to rude slang names and tacky comments when someone debates with you, it shows your reactions and patterns of behavior. It does make sense that you side with the TNC who is similar and actually worse.
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@BigGame90
Ok you insult me again like that outside the box then you will see what happens. I love how you stoop to rude slang names and tacky comments when someone debates with you, it shows your reactions and patterns of behavior. It does make sense that you side with the TNC who is similar and actually worse.
@BigGame90 Ok you insult me again like that outside the box then you will see what happens. I love how you stoop to rude slang names and tacky comments when someone debates with you, it shows your reactions and patterns of behavior. It does make sense that you side with the TNC who is similar and actually worse.
They keep saying they arent trump fans, yet all their posts back up anything trump says. They have the same moral values of trump and they are never gonna change. They just go thru life mad about everything and mad at everybody that disagrees with them. Just look at trumps latest comment, "I dont like people that dont like me" yup thats the qualities we want for somebody to be Our President
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Ok you insult me again like that outside the box then you will see what happens. I love how you stoop to rude slang names and tacky comments when someone debates with you, it shows your reactions and patterns of behavior. It does make sense that you side with the TNC who is similar and actually worse.
They keep saying they arent trump fans, yet all their posts back up anything trump says. They have the same moral values of trump and they are never gonna change. They just go thru life mad about everything and mad at everybody that disagrees with them. Just look at trumps latest comment, "I dont like people that dont like me" yup thats the qualities we want for somebody to be Our President
People in here stoop to names without interaction, yet no word from you. Look at Kelly and Fubduh, every post starts or ends with multiple slang names. I didn't hit you with any slang names brah.
I stop interacting with you because You spin me right 'round, baby, right 'round Like a record, baby, right 'round, 'round, 'round You spin me right 'round, baby, right 'round Like a record, baby, right 'round, 'round, 'round
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@wallstreetcappers
People in here stoop to names without interaction, yet no word from you. Look at Kelly and Fubduh, every post starts or ends with multiple slang names. I didn't hit you with any slang names brah.
I stop interacting with you because You spin me right 'round, baby, right 'round Like a record, baby, right 'round, 'round, 'round You spin me right 'round, baby, right 'round Like a record, baby, right 'round, 'round, 'round
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: If wally was a moderator for a presidential debate, he's be the one that got suspended for giving the questions to the Democrats before hand. I thought this was funny, but you have to be careful.
I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious.
Because WSC wouldn't be a moderator for a Presidential debate.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jarrett75:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: If wally was a moderator for a presidential debate, he's be the one that got suspended for giving the questions to the Democrats before hand. I thought this was funny, but you have to be careful.
I think my entire reply was sarcasm and satire that was quite obvious.
Because WSC wouldn't be a moderator for a Presidential debate.
This is "the science" The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year. Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.) DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs – and can be associated with a condition where a female body naturally produces more testosterone than others. DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop. It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits. - CNN
Or maybe we take the word of the woman who was there, trained her whole life, and took the punch. Seems she would know.
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
This is "the science" The tests that the IBA claimed disqualified Khelif and Lin from competing in 2023 are confidential – so there is no way of knowing why exactly they were barred last year. Female athletes that have differences of sexual development (DSD) are often subject to such tests. (Khelif, however, has not said she has DSD.) DSD is a group of conditions involving genes, hormones and reproductive organs – and can be associated with a condition where a female body naturally produces more testosterone than others. DSD traits only become apparent at puberty, when secondary sex characteristics, such as facial hair, breast tissue or distinct body shapes start to develop. It is difficult to estimate how many people have DSD traits – many live their entire lives without ever knowing they have one. Scientists estimate as many as one out of every 50 people is born with DSD traits. - CNN
Or maybe we take the word of the woman who was there, trained her whole life, and took the punch. Seems she would know.
Interestingly enough....one of the main topics on the new world order/one world currency was to divide the American population through media...create a divide...seems the divide is getting stronger...interested to see if its strictly because of trump or if it will continue after his 2nd term is done in 2028 (assuming he wins 2024)
Is there a chance for unity in 2028 or is the divide some what permanent?
Also a good possibility that the hard-core trump followers will want him to serve a 3rd term...which would be unheard of?? (Not an American politics historian)
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Damn American politics in trouble....
Any good candidates in 2028?
Interestingly enough....one of the main topics on the new world order/one world currency was to divide the American population through media...create a divide...seems the divide is getting stronger...interested to see if its strictly because of trump or if it will continue after his 2nd term is done in 2028 (assuming he wins 2024)
Is there a chance for unity in 2028 or is the divide some what permanent?
Also a good possibility that the hard-core trump followers will want him to serve a 3rd term...which would be unheard of?? (Not an American politics historian)
Yes! 2028 is gonna be LIT. Question is, how lit ? If Kamala wins this year then they'll run her out again (or pull another Coup a la Biden). We'll be in WWIII by this time so the state of turmoil in the US and across the World (already seen in Europe currently) will really open things up for an outsider / NON- Warmonger such as a guy like RFKj or Vivek. Not using these names as who it will be, just that type of NON military industrialist complex bought and paid for politician will be more popular during this time of even higher inflation, record inflation I will say. The Country will be in even more dog shit condition than it is today so a much higher % of the gen pop will be unhappy.
IF Trump wins then we will continue to see the Country in a state of turmoil, the radical leftists will continue with their hatred, intolerance and contempt for any non-radical person regardless of their political outlooks. This will continue to further the divide within American unfortunately. All bets are off if a post DJT 2nd term would open the door for an incumbent to retain '28. More likely, is that if the DNC loses power they will damn make sure to regain in in 2028 a la the 2020 election.
Lastly, the BOOMERs will continue to die off, reducing their strangle hold on today's political outlook (no offense BOOMERs just reality). We should hope to see some sort of "youth" movement, both in the quality of candidates and voters (less all the illegals).
Thank you America
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@dubz4dummyz
Any good candidates in 2028?
Yes! 2028 is gonna be LIT. Question is, how lit ? If Kamala wins this year then they'll run her out again (or pull another Coup a la Biden). We'll be in WWIII by this time so the state of turmoil in the US and across the World (already seen in Europe currently) will really open things up for an outsider / NON- Warmonger such as a guy like RFKj or Vivek. Not using these names as who it will be, just that type of NON military industrialist complex bought and paid for politician will be more popular during this time of even higher inflation, record inflation I will say. The Country will be in even more dog shit condition than it is today so a much higher % of the gen pop will be unhappy.
IF Trump wins then we will continue to see the Country in a state of turmoil, the radical leftists will continue with their hatred, intolerance and contempt for any non-radical person regardless of their political outlooks. This will continue to further the divide within American unfortunately. All bets are off if a post DJT 2nd term would open the door for an incumbent to retain '28. More likely, is that if the DNC loses power they will damn make sure to regain in in 2028 a la the 2020 election.
Lastly, the BOOMERs will continue to die off, reducing their strangle hold on today's political outlook (no offense BOOMERs just reality). We should hope to see some sort of "youth" movement, both in the quality of candidates and voters (less all the illegals).
To give a name here 4 years out I will go with Shapiro. I need to do a deep dive on the guy's policies but he could be the kind of guy I could throw some support behind
Thank you America
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@dubz4dummyz
To give a name here 4 years out I will go with Shapiro. I need to do a deep dive on the guy's policies but he could be the kind of guy I could throw some support behind
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They just go thru life mad about everything and mad at everybody that disagrees with them. Just look at trumps latest comment, "I dont like people that dont like me" yup thats the qualities we want for somebody to be Our President
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