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    KellyM_1964
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2024 - 11:17 AM ET #551

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Robards  It is similar to the chair game, Biden was the last one out on this thirty year gig and he is the one holding the bag for how many presidents and military leaderships before him? Even with a telegraphed exit plan in the media it still made no difference..the entire world knew the US was edging out (to the extent we did anyway) and yet there was no soft landing on the exit. Its easy to blame a hard landing exit and make even the smallest impression it was due to a political party or politician in general but unless the other party and all the presidents before had a better strat then you and they have no claim in the crappy way it went. I have no idea how given the disaster the region is and the complete lack of infrastructure and control we have there that an exit could be smooth and without event. It isnt like that region is sectioned off and nobody can go in or out, its an open region and all we have is a very small military footprint it isnt like the military was heading to the LAX and flying home to Maryland with all the safety and comfort of the US.  How would you envision a smooth, safe, clear and clean exit? Lay it out for me in a way that given the region makes sense...instead of partisan wack-a-mole I would LOVE for someone to blue print a better outcome and have the concept be legit and possible. So anyone here is welcome to take the time and explain it in depth given the deadline we faced and the dynamics that exist.         I blame all of the past admins, I blame the military and politicians for setting this situation up and for destroying the region and staying too long. I dont blame Biden any more than I blame Bush or Obama or Trump, all of them had the opportunity to do this and NONE of them did.

     

    none of them did              until joe biden did an_clap

    somebody had to end the disaster the republicans started

    even if forced  then like u said at least joe did not kick the can up the road  but instead he got the job finished 

     

    we r no longer blowing away $9 BILLION per month spending  in afghanistan  like donnie chump did every month he was in office

    an_clapan_clapan_clap

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Robards  It is similar to the chair game, Biden was the last one out on this thirty year gig and he is the one holding the bag for how many presidents and military leaderships before him? Even with a telegraphed exit plan in the media it still made no difference..the entire world knew the US was edging out (to the extent we did anyway) and yet there was no soft landing on the exit. Its easy to blame a hard landing exit and make even the smallest impression it was due to a political party or politician in general but unless the other party and all the presidents before had a better strat then you and they have no claim in the crappy way it went. I have no idea how given the disaster the region is and the complete lack of infrastructure and control we have there that an exit could be smooth and without event. It isnt like that region is sectioned off and nobody can go in or out, its an open region and all we have is a very small military footprint it isnt like the military was heading to the LAX and flying home to Maryland with all the safety and comfort of the US.  How would you envision a smooth, safe, clear and clean exit? Lay it out for me in a way that given the region makes sense...instead of partisan wack-a-mole I would LOVE for someone to blue print a better outcome and have the concept be legit and possible. So anyone here is welcome to take the time and explain it in depth given the deadline we faced and the dynamics that exist.         I blame all of the past admins, I blame the military and politicians for setting this situation up and for destroying the region and staying too long. I dont blame Biden any more than I blame Bush or Obama or Trump, all of them had the opportunity to do this and NONE of them did.

     

    none of them did              until joe biden did an_clap

    somebody had to end the disaster the republicans started

    even if forced  then like u said at least joe did not kick the can up the road  but instead he got the job finished 

     

    we r no longer blowing away $9 BILLION per month spending  in afghanistan  like donnie chump did every month he was in office

    an_clapan_clapan_clap

     

     

     

     
    Raiderpug
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2024 - 12:09 PM ET #552

    45 combat deaths of US troops in Afghanistan for Trump. 

    13 combat deaths of US troops in Afghanistan for Biden.

    Trump sucks!

     

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    45 combat deaths of US troops in Afghanistan for Trump. 

    13 combat deaths of US troops in Afghanistan for Biden.

    Trump sucks!

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2024 - 12:37 PM ET #553

    @KellyM_1964

     Nah not like that unfortunately. Biden did not take charge, he was forced into the date from Trump. Trump reduced the larger number to leaving 2500 and the end date was put on Biden's desk. Dont credit Biden because he has been a politician longer than most of us have been alive and he could have taken action being a senator and a VP but he didnt.

    The point was that an exit had no chance at being clean and simple and to blame Biden is quite stupid but also to credit Biden is equally stupid.

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    @KellyM_1964

     Nah not like that unfortunately. Biden did not take charge, he was forced into the date from Trump. Trump reduced the larger number to leaving 2500 and the end date was put on Biden's desk. Dont credit Biden because he has been a politician longer than most of us have been alive and he could have taken action being a senator and a VP but he didnt.

    The point was that an exit had no chance at being clean and simple and to blame Biden is quite stupid but also to credit Biden is equally stupid.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2024 - 12:44 PM ET #554

    @THEMUGG

     When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics.

    Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

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    @THEMUGG

     When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics.

    Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 7, 2024 - 1:59 PM ET #555

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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 3:47 AM ET #556

    is there a sheep emoji??

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    is there a sheep emoji??

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 3:49 AM ET #557

    this is how you know you are suppressed, it hits 60 seconds lateran_roll_laugh

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    this is how you know you are suppressed, it hits 60 seconds lateran_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 8:27 AM ET #558

    Just a very friendly and non partisan post follows. Just the facts. Nothing political follows! Inside the link is what the biden administration politely and unapologetically left the enemy called the Taliban inside Afghanistan! 

    c7zBraLNgCBx.jpeg (474×905) (scored.co)

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    Just a very friendly and non partisan post follows. Just the facts. Nothing political follows! Inside the link is what the biden administration politely and unapologetically left the enemy called the Taliban inside Afghanistan! 

    c7zBraLNgCBx.jpeg (474×905) (scored.co)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 10:35 PM ET #559

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.
    There were a number of short, concise replies available to you right there. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.
    There were a number of short, concise replies available to you right there. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 10:38 PM ET #560

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

    an_clap

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

    an_clap

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2024 - 10:40 PM ET #561

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.There were a number of short, concise replies available to you right there.
    One of your boys keeps interrupting... peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.There were a number of short, concise replies available to you right there.
    One of your boys keeps interrupting... peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: @THEMUGG  When you go after the other side it bothers me, when you make this area worse it bothers me. The difference in your rationalization is that you make issues with other members going after members. You also are very very conservative and side with the TNC, that is fine as long as the site rules are not being abused. The other side rarely almost never makes things about members here, they have their little quorum and talk about the DNC and those perspectives and while it can be annoying it is not breaking the rules. Your side also has a quorum and focuses in on TNC/RNC issues and topics and both sides smear the other on political topics. Aside from the rules, I get irked that you are smart enough and experienced enough to discuss topics and content and stay above the member to member crap AND you are better than to blanket blame like you do...generalizing and degrading when it is never true at all. Some members here are not really on a level of quality and integrity that I considered you to be, many here are just rolling around in the partisan slop. I guess from knowing you this long I considered you different, but I think I am wrong in my evaluation. The petty partisan sloppy garbage, that is what I am saying you are better than stooping that low.

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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 2:04 AM ET #563

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    @KellyM_1964  Nah not like that unfortunately. Biden did not take charge, he was forced into the date from Trump. Trump reduced the larger number to leaving 2500 and the end date was put on Biden's desk. Dont credit Biden because he has been a politician longer than most of us have been alive and he could have taken action being a senator and a VP but he didnt. The point was that an exit had no chance at being clean and simple and to blame Biden is quite stupid but also to credit Biden is equally stupid.

     

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     So let's rewind back to 1975ish, you know when we pulled out of Vietnam.  What exactly happened?  yup the vc/nva took back everything.  So what you say is true about a deadline for cornpop Joe handed down from Trump is complete bullspit!!  Spin it however you want to but that's not how this played out.   All those bills ole Joe signed on day 1 was to erase what Trump did or at least try to.  Even if you want to take the high road on this complete juggernaut withdraw, Kamala was the last person in the room

    HER WORDS, last one in the room on that decision.  As if the Veep of US has no say, look no further than Dick Chaney

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @KellyM_1964  Nah not like that unfortunately. Biden did not take charge, he was forced into the date from Trump. Trump reduced the larger number to leaving 2500 and the end date was put on Biden's desk. Dont credit Biden because he has been a politician longer than most of us have been alive and he could have taken action being a senator and a VP but he didnt. The point was that an exit had no chance at being clean and simple and to blame Biden is quite stupid but also to credit Biden is equally stupid.

     

    @wallstreetcappers

     So let's rewind back to 1975ish, you know when we pulled out of Vietnam.  What exactly happened?  yup the vc/nva took back everything.  So what you say is true about a deadline for cornpop Joe handed down from Trump is complete bullspit!!  Spin it however you want to but that's not how this played out.   All those bills ole Joe signed on day 1 was to erase what Trump did or at least try to.  Even if you want to take the high road on this complete juggernaut withdraw, Kamala was the last person in the room

    HER WORDS, last one in the room on that decision.  As if the Veep of US has no say, look no further than Dick Chaney

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 2:29 AM ET #564

    Ole Joe Buyme is going to be the Democratics PATSY for the next foreseeable future, good ole cornpop Joe and his family may finally admit to his senility decline.

    Imagine being Joe, kicked out of the WH and have to prop up the C you next Tuesday who called him a racist in the 2020 debates on live TV.  Can you imagine Dr. Jill living for the next 4 years in some beach house in Delaware....the humanity!!!

    you know that plan that should've been named something else.  The plan was the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT and he couldn't repeat those words because it was a failure an_light

    Just like his presidency and his political career after 2008.  His last 20 years has been a complete money grab for him and his family.  new_poop

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    Ole Joe Buyme is going to be the Democratics PATSY for the next foreseeable future, good ole cornpop Joe and his family may finally admit to his senility decline.

    Imagine being Joe, kicked out of the WH and have to prop up the C you next Tuesday who called him a racist in the 2020 debates on live TV.  Can you imagine Dr. Jill living for the next 4 years in some beach house in Delaware....the humanity!!!

    you know that plan that should've been named something else.  The plan was the INFLATION REDUCTION ACT and he couldn't repeat those words because it was a failure an_light

    Just like his presidency and his political career after 2008.  His last 20 years has been a complete money grab for him and his family.  new_poop

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 2:03 PM ET #566

    Interesting perspective . Your opinion is valued and I champion the rights of every man to speak their truth and find out where it leads to , ultimately culminating in a metamorphosis of change within themselves or into an even stronger and solidifying belief that remains steadfast and resolute . 

    wallstreetcappers craps in his draws and pees fuckin backwards from his vaj with a squirt.
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    Interesting perspective . Your opinion is valued and I champion the rights of every man to speak their truth and find out where it leads to , ultimately culminating in a metamorphosis of change within themselves or into an even stronger and solidifying belief that remains steadfast and resolute . 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 2:14 PM ET #567

    @soup-can

     We are talking about Afghanistan not blame Biden for inflation (which you should avoid starting that farcical discussion btw). The deadline was set when Trump was in office, he started the reduction from a larger number down to was it 2500? Then the exit date was placed for when he was out of office.

    How is that bull spit? Did Trump not reduce troops there and was the date not set for the final exit? Did Trump bring all the people home on his personal jet and did I just miss that or was what happened exactly as I described?

    Fill me in here with the detail about what was bull spit please.

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    @soup-can

     We are talking about Afghanistan not blame Biden for inflation (which you should avoid starting that farcical discussion btw). The deadline was set when Trump was in office, he started the reduction from a larger number down to was it 2500? Then the exit date was placed for when he was out of office.

    How is that bull spit? Did Trump not reduce troops there and was the date not set for the final exit? Did Trump bring all the people home on his personal jet and did I just miss that or was what happened exactly as I described?

    Fill me in here with the detail about what was bull spit please.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2024 - 2:29 PM ET #568

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     The good ole blame Biden routine, yeah I get it that Trump is a strong president and did no wrong, then when he left the world knew that the US was a patsy with Biden in office and the roof caved in, but that is not how things work..especially if you are attempting to not be blindly partisan.

    Ukraine to me has zero to do with the US or Trump or the like, to me Ukraine was about an agreement made decades earlier between Russia and all the provinces involved and Ukraine started flexing about NATO and showing a strong disregard for what they agreed to and IMO the issue is NATO and contagion, that Russia will not risk their western border being turned into a risk zone for the larger federation, that if they allow ANY NATO presence it could spiral into very high risk for the overall union. I do not think Russia is clean about how they are in conflict but I completely understand why they have reacted as they have. Ukraine has taken liberties that they agreed not to and have not shown the proper respect to the larger union and put the union at great risk. Russia is in their full rights to at any time annex all of the provinces back to the larger union and they would be correct in doing so. I find it curious how Ukraine is sticking the finger in the face of Russia, it shows they do not understand the agreement and the potential which has unfolded and could get much much worse. I think Ukraine thought the US and NATO would come and stand with them, we have to a large degree and I do not agree with our decisions in this regard.

    China is not a good example either, the US does not have a position in their conflicts with their "provinces" but a similar situation exists there.

    None of this is about Trump, the world does not revolve around Trump, he is not the answer to any problem and he has no clue about how to be president or what it takes to lead outside of social media and his brand. 

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     The good ole blame Biden routine, yeah I get it that Trump is a strong president and did no wrong, then when he left the world knew that the US was a patsy with Biden in office and the roof caved in, but that is not how things work..especially if you are attempting to not be blindly partisan.

    Ukraine to me has zero to do with the US or Trump or the like, to me Ukraine was about an agreement made decades earlier between Russia and all the provinces involved and Ukraine started flexing about NATO and showing a strong disregard for what they agreed to and IMO the issue is NATO and contagion, that Russia will not risk their western border being turned into a risk zone for the larger federation, that if they allow ANY NATO presence it could spiral into very high risk for the overall union. I do not think Russia is clean about how they are in conflict but I completely understand why they have reacted as they have. Ukraine has taken liberties that they agreed not to and have not shown the proper respect to the larger union and put the union at great risk. Russia is in their full rights to at any time annex all of the provinces back to the larger union and they would be correct in doing so. I find it curious how Ukraine is sticking the finger in the face of Russia, it shows they do not understand the agreement and the potential which has unfolded and could get much much worse. I think Ukraine thought the US and NATO would come and stand with them, we have to a large degree and I do not agree with our decisions in this regard.

    China is not a good example either, the US does not have a position in their conflicts with their "provinces" but a similar situation exists there.

    None of this is about Trump, the world does not revolve around Trump, he is not the answer to any problem and he has no clue about how to be president or what it takes to lead outside of social media and his brand. 

     
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    It is truly unbelievable that there are posters inside Covers that will defend a man who craps himself and who can not put 2 complete sentences together. We all know what liberalism is. Liberalism is without question a ****** ********! Has anybody visited Aurora, Colorado lately? That is 1 small example of what liberalism does to honest hard working people. Liberalism allows gangs from Venezuela to take over apartment buildings! The safety of it's citizens is not a priority for liberals!

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    It is truly unbelievable that there are posters inside Covers that will defend a man who craps himself and who can not put 2 complete sentences together. We all know what liberalism is. Liberalism is without question a ****** ********! Has anybody visited Aurora, Colorado lately? That is 1 small example of what liberalism does to honest hard working people. Liberalism allows gangs from Venezuela to take over apartment buildings! The safety of it's citizens is not a priority for liberals!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @unplucked_gem  The good ole blame Biden routine,

    the world does not revolve around Trump,

    he is not the answer to any problem and he has no clue about how to be president or what it takes to lead outside of social media and his brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @unplucked_gem  The good ole blame Biden routine,

    the world does not revolve around Trump,

    he is not the answer to any problem and he has no clue about how to be president or what it takes to lead outside of social media and his brand.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2024 - 10:33 PM ET #573

    HARRIS: "Tim Walz and I are both gun owners. No one is trying to take your guns away, so stop with the lies."

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    HARRIS: "Tim Walz and I are both gun owners. No one is trying to take your guns away, so stop with the lies."

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     Well explain this to me since you are attempting the reach around. Did Trump see to the finish of the military occupation there? Did Bush or Obama or any other president? Was the timeline for the final exit set while Trump was in office and the date was after his term was up? Is this true fact or is it some fake media liberal mumbo jumbo?

    Trump could have stepped up and taken charge, he could have set an earlier date and finished the job but like the border issue Trump likes to play political games and force others to do things he does not want to OR he takes opportunities away that he wants to claim credit for. 

    Not sure how you cannot say with 100% fact that Trump could have finished it but as commander in chief of the military he kicked the can because he KNEW the exit would be nasty and look bad for his election chances, so kick the can was his play and now he has to own it.

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    @unplucked_gem

     Well explain this to me since you are attempting the reach around. Did Trump see to the finish of the military occupation there? Did Bush or Obama or any other president? Was the timeline for the final exit set while Trump was in office and the date was after his term was up? Is this true fact or is it some fake media liberal mumbo jumbo?

    Trump could have stepped up and taken charge, he could have set an earlier date and finished the job but like the border issue Trump likes to play political games and force others to do things he does not want to OR he takes opportunities away that he wants to claim credit for. 

    Not sure how you cannot say with 100% fact that Trump could have finished it but as commander in chief of the military he kicked the can because he KNEW the exit would be nasty and look bad for his election chances, so kick the can was his play and now he has to own it.

     
     
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    an_laughtrump getting roasted like a Pig at a tail gate an_roll_laugh

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