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    Its So Obvious that Trump is Fixing the Election for Hillary

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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 10:50 AM ET #1

    I said this a year ago or so but no one believed me. I continue to see evidence in the past 6 months that Trump is purposefully (perhaps heartfully but I am not so sure) trying to destroy the Republican party by making them look like kooks and racists hellbent on fascist ways  .By turning his back on his fellow Republican patriots for many years (the list is so long.....including my fave Republican McCain)...it iced my prediction! Now here comes the bomb that SOME of you know but many have not been paying attention to over the past 20 years of so-called Trump and Clinton ties......

    Realize this about Trump. He would family first ahead of all else even more than ambition especially with the fact that he is 70yrs old. So why would he wish to 'destroy' America before he passes or no longer has the energy/capacity to lead past 75 yrs old? The answer is, HE DOESN'T. He only wishes to set things up for a Democratic  ideals win for years making life good for his family underlings (Ivanka has 3 children!) rather than making life tough for a 'security-fascist-state' America. He and his family would have no peace in such a situation but letting a Democrat continue the reign of America for 4-8 more years and destroying the Republican party is a win-win for this situation. Now here is why (bomb): 

    BOTH IVANKA and CHELSEA ARE GREAT FRIENDS FOR YEARS ......as well as the Trumps and Clintons.....enjoy right wingers!! 

    https://elitedaily.com/news/history-chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-friendship/1566984/

    and more.....
    https://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
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    I said this a year ago or so but no one believed me. I continue to see evidence in the past 6 months that Trump is purposefully (perhaps heartfully but I am not so sure) trying to destroy the Republican party by making them look like kooks and racists hellbent on fascist ways  .By turning his back on his fellow Republican patriots for many years (the list is so long.....including my fave Republican McCain)...it iced my prediction! Now here comes the bomb that SOME of you know but many have not been paying attention to over the past 20 years of so-called Trump and Clinton ties......

    Realize this about Trump. He would family first ahead of all else even more than ambition especially with the fact that he is 70yrs old. So why would he wish to 'destroy' America before he passes or no longer has the energy/capacity to lead past 75 yrs old? The answer is, HE DOESN'T. He only wishes to set things up for a Democratic  ideals win for years making life good for his family underlings (Ivanka has 3 children!) rather than making life tough for a 'security-fascist-state' America. He and his family would have no peace in such a situation but letting a Democrat continue the reign of America for 4-8 more years and destroying the Republican party is a win-win for this situation. Now here is why (bomb): 

    BOTH IVANKA and CHELSEA ARE GREAT FRIENDS FOR YEARS ......as well as the Trumps and Clintons.....enjoy right wingers!! 

    https://elitedaily.com/news/history-chelsea-clinton-ivanka-trump-friendship/1566984/

    and more.....
    https://www.newsweek.com/history-donald-trump-bill-clinton-friendship-464360
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 11:13 AM ET #2

    Wont release his tax records.....everyone will see how much $$ he has donated directly to the Clintons and their crime family foundation...along with many other liberal democrats like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer...and all the other hoards of bumbbling, lunatic fringe leftists out there.
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    Wont release his tax records.....everyone will see how much $$ he has donated directly to the Clintons and their crime family foundation...along with many other liberal democrats like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer...and all the other hoards of bumbbling, lunatic fringe leftists out there.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 11:37 AM ET #3

    What an odd and laborious way to help out Hillary, an "old friend." Plus she had to beat Sanders, no easy task without corrupt DNC officials fixing results in Kentucky. He almost ran against Sanders. And he is doing two rallies a day, and speaks for over an hour, and CNN pulls out one controversial off the cuff remark a day to toss around the media outlets to keep the control of public opinion.

    The control of public opinion by the corporate media has been called one of the modern "wonders of the world." It is perplexing how it is done and why it is so effective. 

    There is no law that a news reporting business should ONLY report the facts in an unbiased way or FREE OF OPINION.  the Wash Post and NY Times and CNN are all OPINION based news reporting entities. They are not unbiased. They are biased by design. 
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    What an odd and laborious way to help out Hillary, an "old friend." Plus she had to beat Sanders, no easy task without corrupt DNC officials fixing results in Kentucky. He almost ran against Sanders. And he is doing two rallies a day, and speaks for over an hour, and CNN pulls out one controversial off the cuff remark a day to toss around the media outlets to keep the control of public opinion.

    The control of public opinion by the corporate media has been called one of the modern "wonders of the world." It is perplexing how it is done and why it is so effective. 

    There is no law that a news reporting business should ONLY report the facts in an unbiased way or FREE OF OPINION.  the Wash Post and NY Times and CNN are all OPINION based news reporting entities. They are not unbiased. They are biased by design. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 11:39 AM ET #4

    In short, you are responding to the opinion based media that is successful at controlling public opinion about Trump as "unfit" . Reporting lies about Trump is more newsworthy than reporting the truth about Hillary (frail health, lies, corruption, pay for play).
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    In short, you are responding to the opinion based media that is successful at controlling public opinion about Trump as "unfit" . Reporting lies about Trump is more newsworthy than reporting the truth about Hillary (frail health, lies, corruption, pay for play).
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 12:22 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by gmanusc2001:

    Wont release his tax records.....everyone will see how much $$ he has donated directly to the Clintons and their crime family foundation...along with many other liberal democrats like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer...and all the other hoards of bumbbling, lunatic fringe leftists out there.

    You are probably right. I wish America would get off of this 'pick your team' and be loyal at all costs mentality and just realize that even the leaders are there just for the power that comes with leadership. However, that being said, whether you are for one side or the other, you should pick the person who is going to be the best for your family and community in general without being loyal to just one party. When we become blindly loyal to one philosophy we sometimes forget about family and community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmanusc2001:

    Wont release his tax records.....everyone will see how much $$ he has donated directly to the Clintons and their crime family foundation...along with many other liberal democrats like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Chuckie Schumer...and all the other hoards of bumbbling, lunatic fringe leftists out there.

    You are probably right. I wish America would get off of this 'pick your team' and be loyal at all costs mentality and just realize that even the leaders are there just for the power that comes with leadership. However, that being said, whether you are for one side or the other, you should pick the person who is going to be the best for your family and community in general without being loyal to just one party. When we become blindly loyal to one philosophy we sometimes forget about family and community.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 12:29 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    What an odd and laborious way to help out Hillary, an "old friend." Plus she had to beat Sanders, no easy task without corrupt DNC officials fixing results in Kentucky. He almost ran against Sanders. And he is doing two rallies a day, and speaks for over an hour, and CNN pulls out one controversial off the cuff remark a day to toss around the media outlets to keep the control of public opinion.

    The control of public opinion by the corporate media has been called one of the modern "wonders of the world." It is perplexing how it is done and why it is so effective. 

    There is no law that a news reporting business should ONLY report the facts in an unbiased way or FREE OF OPINION.  the Wash Post and NY Times and CNN are all OPINION based news reporting entities. They are not unbiased. They are biased by design. 

    You do realize, if Trump wished for more of a 'controlled perspective' to get out to voters, he/and fervent donors would get that by advertising...but he doesnt want to spend$$ and that should also be a clue as to why he is tanking the election for the Republicans for Hillary's benefit. As far as bias in the media goes, I suggest you research the political ideologies of most, if not all media outlets and I think you will find that they are right-wing in ownership. They leave the lefty ownership to Hollywood. Manipulating the message is a right wing ploy....fascist in the Fuhrer sense of the way. Debating politics is democratic and if you watch CNN....that is what they are doing by ALWAYS HAVING both sides of the parties present in these situations. You can't deny that. If you want proof of my right wing ownership, I would be happy to give you the researchable proof of that....just ask and I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    What an odd and laborious way to help out Hillary, an "old friend." Plus she had to beat Sanders, no easy task without corrupt DNC officials fixing results in Kentucky. He almost ran against Sanders. And he is doing two rallies a day, and speaks for over an hour, and CNN pulls out one controversial off the cuff remark a day to toss around the media outlets to keep the control of public opinion.

    The control of public opinion by the corporate media has been called one of the modern "wonders of the world." It is perplexing how it is done and why it is so effective. 

    There is no law that a news reporting business should ONLY report the facts in an unbiased way or FREE OF OPINION.  the Wash Post and NY Times and CNN are all OPINION based news reporting entities. They are not unbiased. They are biased by design. 

    You do realize, if Trump wished for more of a 'controlled perspective' to get out to voters, he/and fervent donors would get that by advertising...but he doesnt want to spend$$ and that should also be a clue as to why he is tanking the election for the Republicans for Hillary's benefit. As far as bias in the media goes, I suggest you research the political ideologies of most, if not all media outlets and I think you will find that they are right-wing in ownership. They leave the lefty ownership to Hollywood. Manipulating the message is a right wing ploy....fascist in the Fuhrer sense of the way. Debating politics is democratic and if you watch CNN....that is what they are doing by ALWAYS HAVING both sides of the parties present in these situations. You can't deny that. If you want proof of my right wing ownership, I would be happy to give you the researchable proof of that....just ask and I will.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2016 - 12:42 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    In short, you are responding to the opinion based media that is successful at controlling public opinion about Trump as "unfit" . Reporting lies about Trump is more newsworthy than reporting the truth about Hillary (frail health, lies, corruption, pay for play).

    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life. Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind. Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    In short, you are responding to the opinion based media that is successful at controlling public opinion about Trump as "unfit" . Reporting lies about Trump is more newsworthy than reporting the truth about Hillary (frail health, lies, corruption, pay for play).

    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life. Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind. Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life. Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind. Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS


    You have to understand that relax_dude is not smart.  He takes the emotional and extreme stances to avoid ever looking inteospectively at himself or trump...

    The second part with posters like relax_dude and the rest of the crew is that non partisan, and being personally balanced, centrist, moral or ethical rather than blindly following what ever view is prescribed to them by trump or Fox News means that you are a complete leftist liberal...

    You either agree 100% and if you question anything rather than being a complete lemming then you must be an extremist from the other side...

    I am not sure if this emotional extreme view point is a product of being crazy or just not smart enough to make personal reality based opinion...  But in the end those two things are it necesarily mutually exclusive 
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    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life. Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind. Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS


    You have to understand that relax_dude is not smart.  He takes the emotional and extreme stances to avoid ever looking inteospectively at himself or trump...

    The second part with posters like relax_dude and the rest of the crew is that non partisan, and being personally balanced, centrist, moral or ethical rather than blindly following what ever view is prescribed to them by trump or Fox News means that you are a complete leftist liberal...

    You either agree 100% and if you question anything rather than being a complete lemming then you must be an extremist from the other side...

    I am not sure if this emotional extreme view point is a product of being crazy or just not smart enough to make personal reality based opinion...  But in the end those two things are it necesarily mutually exclusive 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life ("THE HILLS ARE ALIVE WITH THE SOUND OF BULLLSHHIIIEEET!"). Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? (BECAUSE ITS FALSE)Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man (REALLY?)who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind (HUH?). Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS
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    Actually, if you were smart, you would realize that Trump is hanging himself by trying to become a controversial sound bite to 'try and get more attention' thus getting free advertising for his cause and way of thinking, WHILE NOT SPENDING THE MONEY ON POLITICAL ADVERTISING himself. Also, if you notice, there is just as much wasted time rebutting other Republicans in HIS OWN PARTY who respond to his incredibly nonsensical outbursts all meant for keeping the spin going.....but what you don't see (because you are blindly partisan), hie is aiding the 'enemy' both inside American and abroad. 

    I have no political partisanship except balanced thinking, ideology, centrist views that consider ethics and morality before fervent ideology. If you get right down to it, Trump's appearance of being an opposing view to radical Islam is quite frankly closer in spirit since it ignores basic decency for cause...just like ISIS. Any practising religious and faithful Muslim will not subscribe to ISIS ideology which is hateful and targeting.....so listen to your boy...he sounds similar to ISIS.....hateful and targeting but with a supposed American flag wrapped around it. Obama and Hillary have never represented the same kind of philosophy. Hillary has always been for children and education and the underdog her whole life ("THE HILLS ARE ALIVE WITH THE SOUND OF BULLLSHHIIIEEET!"). Obama displayed this too. What is wrong with this community friendly point of viiew? (BECAUSE ITS FALSE)Who cares about money power and force of will if it means you have to forget about what I said formerly? I am a powerful and mighty man (REALLY?)who can't be defeated myself but I certainly don't use that energy to be harmful but rather helpful and kind (HUH?). Poor potty training and lack of self esteem is what usually leads to bullies, arrogance and blind devotion to a cause that disregards the whole for the sake of a cause....like Trump/like ISIS
     
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    Go wrap your loving arms around ISIS. Bleeding heart liberal cucks are spreading like a virus. They're actually amused by Islam. Caliphate is next on their agenda while you take in their refugees and over one million under Obama, and raise their children while they plan to oppose Christianity and secularism openly. Even moderate Muslims do not oppose terrorist acts, and are secretly glad someone is doing the "dirty work" so they don't have to. Yes they cheered 9-11. You refuse to see like a true cuckoo idiot.
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    Go wrap your loving arms around ISIS. Bleeding heart liberal cucks are spreading like a virus. They're actually amused by Islam. Caliphate is next on their agenda while you take in their refugees and over one million under Obama, and raise their children while they plan to oppose Christianity and secularism openly. Even moderate Muslims do not oppose terrorist acts, and are secretly glad someone is doing the "dirty work" so they don't have to. Yes they cheered 9-11. You refuse to see like a true cuckoo idiot.
     
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    Ironic that you of all people is calling someone else a cuckoo idiot...


    Same pattern as this lemming poster become stumped and upset with logic and intelligent dialog the insults and emotional negativity come out...  The "usual" meltdown we see almost daily from these type of posters...  Because if they could post in an intelligent fashion they would... 

    But......
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    Ironic that you of all people is calling someone else a cuckoo idiot...


    Same pattern as this lemming poster become stumped and upset with logic and intelligent dialog the insults and emotional negativity come out...  The "usual" meltdown we see almost daily from these type of posters...  Because if they could post in an intelligent fashion they would... 

    But......
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    You have to understand that relax_dude is not smart.  He takes the emotional and extreme stances to avoid ever looking inteospectively at himself or trump...

    The second part with posters like relax_dude and the rest of the crew is that non partisan, and being personally balanced, centrist, moral or ethical rather than blindly following what ever view is prescribed to them by trump or Fox News means that you are a complete leftist liberal...

    You either agree 100% and if you question anything rather than being a complete lemming then you must be an extremist from the other side...

    I am not sure if this emotional extreme view point is a product of being crazy or just not smart enough to make personal reality based opinion...  But in the end those two things are it necesarily mutually exclusive 

    Can't change the world.....but hopefully you can debate it which is always fun but its deathsport for some extremists in the Repub/Tea Party and they are obviously NOT good at it if they let extremists to rise under their noses while they stack and count money that they are making from their military stocks! They dont care about winning a war......just keep it going so they make $$$....otherwise, cite the case where America has won a war on their own? (against Japan does not count since it was a world war and was almost over anyway....lots of allies involved......they lost to Britain/Canada, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.....if they had won those wars, things would be differennt and the land theirs!) So as you can see, its this strange aura of being a winner when quite frankly, not at war but at making money for SOME PEOPLE.
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    You have to understand that relax_dude is not smart.  He takes the emotional and extreme stances to avoid ever looking inteospectively at himself or trump...

    The second part with posters like relax_dude and the rest of the crew is that non partisan, and being personally balanced, centrist, moral or ethical rather than blindly following what ever view is prescribed to them by trump or Fox News means that you are a complete leftist liberal...

    You either agree 100% and if you question anything rather than being a complete lemming then you must be an extremist from the other side...

    I am not sure if this emotional extreme view point is a product of being crazy or just not smart enough to make personal reality based opinion...  But in the end those two things are it necesarily mutually exclusive 

    Can't change the world.....but hopefully you can debate it which is always fun but its deathsport for some extremists in the Repub/Tea Party and they are obviously NOT good at it if they let extremists to rise under their noses while they stack and count money that they are making from their military stocks! They dont care about winning a war......just keep it going so they make $$$....otherwise, cite the case where America has won a war on their own? (against Japan does not count since it was a world war and was almost over anyway....lots of allies involved......they lost to Britain/Canada, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.....if they had won those wars, things would be differennt and the land theirs!) So as you can see, its this strange aura of being a winner when quite frankly, not at war but at making money for SOME PEOPLE.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Go wrap your loving arms around ISIS (would have the courage to do it but not you phoney patriot like Trump the draft dodger!). Bleeding heart liberal cucks are spreading like a virus. They're actually amused by Islam. Caliphate is next on their agenda while you take in their refugees and over one million under Obama, and raise their children while they plan to oppose Christianity and secularism openly( who cares!!....you are an extremist yourself then!). Even moderate Muslims do not oppose terrorist acts, and are secretly glad someone is doing the "dirty work" so they don't have to) (how would you know....you are scared to death to go near a Muslim let alone be/think community minded....many Repubs are cowards!!...by what you are saying, you qualify as a coward). Yes they cheered 9-11 (the extremists did you nutbar....not decent Muslim people). You refuse to see like a true cuckoo idiot.
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    Go wrap your loving arms around ISIS (would have the courage to do it but not you phoney patriot like Trump the draft dodger!). Bleeding heart liberal cucks are spreading like a virus. They're actually amused by Islam. Caliphate is next on their agenda while you take in their refugees and over one million under Obama, and raise their children while they plan to oppose Christianity and secularism openly( who cares!!....you are an extremist yourself then!). Even moderate Muslims do not oppose terrorist acts, and are secretly glad someone is doing the "dirty work" so they don't have to) (how would you know....you are scared to death to go near a Muslim let alone be/think community minded....many Repubs are cowards!!...by what you are saying, you qualify as a coward). Yes they cheered 9-11 (the extremists did you nutbar....not decent Muslim people). You refuse to see like a true cuckoo idiot.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Ironic that you of all people is calling someone else a cuckoo idiot...


    Same pattern as this lemming poster become stumped and upset with logic and intelligent dialog the insults and emotional negativity come out...  The "usual" meltdown we see almost daily from these type of posters...  Because if they could post in an intelligent fashion they would... 

    But......
    F

    Ya.....they are a bunch of babies....wah wah....can't even think for themselves or offer someone 'different' from them a hand....so high school cliquey-pathetic in a bizarre-odd-unhumane way....but I expected that when I made this thread. 

    At the end of the day, it is still fun  baiting them and letting them look stupid and low class...I guess the hope is that someday they wake up from their evil-thinking stupor but nope!
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    Ironic that you of all people is calling someone else a cuckoo idiot...


    Same pattern as this lemming poster become stumped and upset with logic and intelligent dialog the insults and emotional negativity come out...  The "usual" meltdown we see almost daily from these type of posters...  Because if they could post in an intelligent fashion they would... 

    But......
    F

    Ya.....they are a bunch of babies....wah wah....can't even think for themselves or offer someone 'different' from them a hand....so high school cliquey-pathetic in a bizarre-odd-unhumane way....but I expected that when I made this thread. 

    At the end of the day, it is still fun  baiting them and letting them look stupid and low class...I guess the hope is that someday they wake up from their evil-thinking stupor but nope!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:


    Can't change the world.....but hopefully you can debate it which is always fun but its deathsport for some extremists in the Repub/Tea Party and they are obviously NOT good at it if they let extremists to rise under their noses while they stack and count money that they are making from their military stocks! They dont care about winning a war......just keep it going so they make $$$....otherwise, cite the case where America has won a war on their own? (against Japan does not count since it was a world war and was almost over anyway....lots of allies involved......they lost to Britain/Canada, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.....if they had won those wars, things would be differennt and the land theirs!) So as you can see, its this strange aura of being a winner when quite frankly, not at war but at making money for SOME PEOPLE.


    #realitybites 

    And when they are faced with reality the insults and emotional posting start getting all upset and negative...  

    The GOP probably could beat Hillary running a legit candidate but trump who is on a mission to get her elected is ensuring that Hillary wins...

    And when trumps plan get Hillary elected falls into place the reality of that will drive them nuts to the point of blowing a gasket...  All angry and upset...  You will literally be able to see the steam coming from the trump lemmings ears...  Some will realize that they have been conned but people like realax_dud and others will not be able to grasp the idea...  Just more manufactured negativity... Same playbook used win Obama that marched him to a second term...

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    Can't change the world.....but hopefully you can debate it which is always fun but its deathsport for some extremists in the Repub/Tea Party and they are obviously NOT good at it if they let extremists to rise under their noses while they stack and count money that they are making from their military stocks! They dont care about winning a war......just keep it going so they make $$$....otherwise, cite the case where America has won a war on their own? (against Japan does not count since it was a world war and was almost over anyway....lots of allies involved......they lost to Britain/Canada, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan.....if they had won those wars, things would be differennt and the land theirs!) So as you can see, its this strange aura of being a winner when quite frankly, not at war but at making money for SOME PEOPLE.


    #realitybites 

    And when they are faced with reality the insults and emotional posting start getting all upset and negative...  

    The GOP probably could beat Hillary running a legit candidate but trump who is on a mission to get her elected is ensuring that Hillary wins...

    And when trumps plan get Hillary elected falls into place the reality of that will drive them nuts to the point of blowing a gasket...  All angry and upset...  You will literally be able to see the steam coming from the trump lemmings ears...  Some will realize that they have been conned but people like realax_dud and others will not be able to grasp the idea...  Just more manufactured negativity... Same playbook used win Obama that marched him to a second term...

     
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    Trump is fixing the election for Hillary,,like MLB umps fix games for the home teams...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    #realitybites 

    And when they are faced with reality the insults and emotional posting start getting all upset and negative...  

    The GOP probably could beat Hillary running a legit candidate but trump who is on a mission to get her elected is ensuring that Hillary wins...

    And when trumps plan get Hillary elected falls into place the reality of that will drive them nuts to the point of blowing a gasket...  All angry and upset...  You will literally be able to see the steam coming from the trump lemmings ears...  Some will realize that they have been conned but people like realax_dud and others will not be able to grasp the idea...  Just more manufactured negativity... Same playbook used win Obama that marched him to a second term...


    Unfortunately, I am afraid you are right.....and I am afraid for America. My wife and some friends are going to avoid the U.S. for at least a year to travel to since we feel this Second Amendment thing will bring out the kooks so no where is going to be safe and there will be a lot of tension. It almost feels at times like the country is ready for a civil war that is not necessarily based on north/south but based on partisan feelings, philosophy or way of life. So long as the corporations/elite continue to divide rich and poor towards lines of desperation, the greater the likelihood we go in that direction. I am an old school American living in another great country and I saw how degenerate politics and extreme right wing-ism/corporatism could start to ruin the fabric of a nation up here in Canada. I hope we get some middle of the road sensibility in Washington no matter if they are Dem or Repub because civil war is where we are headed if we continue to stir the 'ugly American' who stands on 'the past' - tradition while not looking to make things better for anyone which is how we were built in the first place. America did not come great if we did not import great people and innovate with our own positive energy.....Trump is a continuation of the OLD NEGATIVE ENERGY THEME ......not progressing in a future outlook. He may actually be good for America to awaken the notion that change to the middle is where we ought to gravitate towards just like its gone up here in Canada and people can get back to living their lives prosperously and without fear/fighting. I used to enjoy tailgating at Buffalo Bills football games because people enjoyed the 'experience' and football but now the partying is starting to degenerate into alliances of who you like or are....lefty or righty. I think this whole Trump-Clinton RUSE is the start of descaling and trying to get back to the middle it it will start with community thinking rather than along the lines of what 'gang or creed' you belong to......lets hope so!
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    #realitybites 

    And when they are faced with reality the insults and emotional posting start getting all upset and negative...  

    The GOP probably could beat Hillary running a legit candidate but trump who is on a mission to get her elected is ensuring that Hillary wins...

    And when trumps plan get Hillary elected falls into place the reality of that will drive them nuts to the point of blowing a gasket...  All angry and upset...  You will literally be able to see the steam coming from the trump lemmings ears...  Some will realize that they have been conned but people like realax_dud and others will not be able to grasp the idea...  Just more manufactured negativity... Same playbook used win Obama that marched him to a second term...


    Unfortunately, I am afraid you are right.....and I am afraid for America. My wife and some friends are going to avoid the U.S. for at least a year to travel to since we feel this Second Amendment thing will bring out the kooks so no where is going to be safe and there will be a lot of tension. It almost feels at times like the country is ready for a civil war that is not necessarily based on north/south but based on partisan feelings, philosophy or way of life. So long as the corporations/elite continue to divide rich and poor towards lines of desperation, the greater the likelihood we go in that direction. I am an old school American living in another great country and I saw how degenerate politics and extreme right wing-ism/corporatism could start to ruin the fabric of a nation up here in Canada. I hope we get some middle of the road sensibility in Washington no matter if they are Dem or Repub because civil war is where we are headed if we continue to stir the 'ugly American' who stands on 'the past' - tradition while not looking to make things better for anyone which is how we were built in the first place. America did not come great if we did not import great people and innovate with our own positive energy.....Trump is a continuation of the OLD NEGATIVE ENERGY THEME ......not progressing in a future outlook. He may actually be good for America to awaken the notion that change to the middle is where we ought to gravitate towards just like its gone up here in Canada and people can get back to living their lives prosperously and without fear/fighting. I used to enjoy tailgating at Buffalo Bills football games because people enjoyed the 'experience' and football but now the partying is starting to degenerate into alliances of who you like or are....lefty or righty. I think this whole Trump-Clinton RUSE is the start of descaling and trying to get back to the middle it it will start with community thinking rather than along the lines of what 'gang or creed' you belong to......lets hope so!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Trump is fixing the election for Hillary,,like MLB umps fix games for the home teams...


    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!

    https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.asp

    The sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.

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    Trump is fixing the election for Hillary,,like MLB umps fix games for the home teams...


    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!

    https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.asp

    The sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.

     
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    Unfortunately, I am afraid you are right.....and I am afraid for America. My wife and some friends are going to avoid the U.S. for at least a year to travel to since we feel this Second Amendment thing will bring out the kooks so no where is going to be safe and there will be a lot of tension. It almost feels at times like the country is ready for a civil war that is not necessarily based on north/south but based on partisan feelings, philosophy or way of life. So long as the corporations/elite continue to divide rich and poor towards lines of desperation, the greater the likelihood we go in that direction. I am an old school American living in another great country and I saw how degenerate politics and extreme right wing-ism/corporatism could start to ruin the fabric of a nation up here in Canada. I hope we get some middle of the road sensibility in Washington no matter if they are Dem or Repub because civil war is where we are headed if we continue to stir the 'ugly American' who stands on 'the past' - tradition while not looking to make things better for anyone which is how we were built in the first place. America did not come great if we did not import great people and innovate with our own positive energy.....Trump is a continuation of the OLD NEGATIVE ENERGY THEME ......not progressing in a future outlook. He may actually be good for America to awaken the notion that change to the middle is where we ought to gravitate towards just like its gone up here in Canada and people can get back to living their lives prosperously and without fear/fighting. I used to enjoy tailgating at Buffalo Bills football games because people enjoyed the 'experience' and football but now the partying is starting to degenerate into alliances of who you like or are....lefty or righty. I think this whole Trump-Clinton RUSE is the start of descaling and trying to get back to the middle it it will start with community thinking rather than along the lines of what 'gang or creed' you belong to......lets hope so!

    So you are an admitted partisan, looking at our media with a partisan lens. Seeing eye to eye with our 'non-partisan independent' who mysteriously always has to mention that he is independent otherwise he is afraid that one would not know.

    I don't need to EVER remind people that I am conservative...EVER

    After you explain to us why you're afraid of making paragraphs, you can list the leanings of our top media outlets....I'll give you my view.


    Fox - Right wing
    MSDNC- EXTREMELY LEFT WING
    NBC- SEE ABOVE
    CBS - LEFTIES
    CNN- CLOSEST TO CENTER BUT NOT QUITE THERE. LEFT OF CENTER

    Huffington post?
    New York Times?
    LA Times?
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    Unfortunately, I am afraid you are right.....and I am afraid for America. My wife and some friends are going to avoid the U.S. for at least a year to travel to since we feel this Second Amendment thing will bring out the kooks so no where is going to be safe and there will be a lot of tension. It almost feels at times like the country is ready for a civil war that is not necessarily based on north/south but based on partisan feelings, philosophy or way of life. So long as the corporations/elite continue to divide rich and poor towards lines of desperation, the greater the likelihood we go in that direction. I am an old school American living in another great country and I saw how degenerate politics and extreme right wing-ism/corporatism could start to ruin the fabric of a nation up here in Canada. I hope we get some middle of the road sensibility in Washington no matter if they are Dem or Repub because civil war is where we are headed if we continue to stir the 'ugly American' who stands on 'the past' - tradition while not looking to make things better for anyone which is how we were built in the first place. America did not come great if we did not import great people and innovate with our own positive energy.....Trump is a continuation of the OLD NEGATIVE ENERGY THEME ......not progressing in a future outlook. He may actually be good for America to awaken the notion that change to the middle is where we ought to gravitate towards just like its gone up here in Canada and people can get back to living their lives prosperously and without fear/fighting. I used to enjoy tailgating at Buffalo Bills football games because people enjoyed the 'experience' and football but now the partying is starting to degenerate into alliances of who you like or are....lefty or righty. I think this whole Trump-Clinton RUSE is the start of descaling and trying to get back to the middle it it will start with community thinking rather than along the lines of what 'gang or creed' you belong to......lets hope so!

    So you are an admitted partisan, looking at our media with a partisan lens. Seeing eye to eye with our 'non-partisan independent' who mysteriously always has to mention that he is independent otherwise he is afraid that one would not know.

    I don't need to EVER remind people that I am conservative...EVER

    After you explain to us why you're afraid of making paragraphs, you can list the leanings of our top media outlets....I'll give you my view.


    Fox - Right wing
    MSDNC- EXTREMELY LEFT WING
    NBC- SEE ABOVE
    CBS - LEFTIES
    CNN- CLOSEST TO CENTER BUT NOT QUITE THERE. LEFT OF CENTER

    Huffington post?
    New York Times?
    LA Times?
    WSJ - Right


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    So you are an admitted partisan, looking at our media with a partisan lens. Seeing eye to eye with our 'non-partisan independent' who mysteriously always has to mention that he is independent otherwise he is afraid that one would not know.

    I don't need to EVER remind people that I am conservative...EVER

    After you explain to us why you're afraid of making paragraphs, you can list the leanings of our top media outlets....I'll give you my view.


    Fox - Right wing
    MSDNC- EXTREMELY LEFT WING
    NBC- SEE ABOVE
    CBS - LEFTIES
    CNN- CLOSEST TO CENTER BUT NOT QUITE THERE. LEFT OF CENTER

    Huffington post?
    New York Times?
    LA Times?
    WSJ - Right



    Americans need to get out of the 'gang' mentality and get back to SHOWING they are great by being community oriented, hard working and happy........the rest of the world is starting to leave you behind as you fight over semantics of who is right wing who is left wing......how about fighting for a common cause rather than letting things rot while we fight over stupid details
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    So you are an admitted partisan, looking at our media with a partisan lens. Seeing eye to eye with our 'non-partisan independent' who mysteriously always has to mention that he is independent otherwise he is afraid that one would not know.

    I don't need to EVER remind people that I am conservative...EVER

    After you explain to us why you're afraid of making paragraphs, you can list the leanings of our top media outlets....I'll give you my view.


    Fox - Right wing
    MSDNC- EXTREMELY LEFT WING
    NBC- SEE ABOVE
    CBS - LEFTIES
    CNN- CLOSEST TO CENTER BUT NOT QUITE THERE. LEFT OF CENTER

    Huffington post?
    New York Times?
    LA Times?
    WSJ - Right



    Americans need to get out of the 'gang' mentality and get back to SHOWING they are great by being community oriented, hard working and happy........the rest of the world is starting to leave you behind as you fight over semantics of who is right wing who is left wing......how about fighting for a common cause rather than letting things rot while we fight over stupid details
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Trump is fixing the election for Hillary,,like MLB umps fix games for the home teams...
    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.aspThe sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.

    The GOP backed Jeb Bush. When he failed they backed the Latino candidates-- Rubio and Cruz. Rubio lost Florida. They backed Cruz. The Dems saw Obama as a rising star right away and he didn't even finish one term as a senator. Cruz did not catch fire, he burned up. They needed to start earlier and should not have gravitated towards the establishment hack in Jeb. Jeb was 2-1 favorite to win when he started. Oh how fortunes change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Trump is fixing the election for Hillary,,like MLB umps fix games for the home teams...
    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.aspThe sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.

    The GOP backed Jeb Bush. When he failed they backed the Latino candidates-- Rubio and Cruz. Rubio lost Florida. They backed Cruz. The Dems saw Obama as a rising star right away and he didn't even finish one term as a senator. Cruz did not catch fire, he burned up. They needed to start earlier and should not have gravitated towards the establishment hack in Jeb. Jeb was 2-1 favorite to win when he started. Oh how fortunes change.
     
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    The same was said when the GOP chose McCain to run. It was a setup. And when McCain eased up late it confirmed their suspicions that it was a setup. Yawn.
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    The same was said when the GOP chose McCain to run. It was a setup. And when McCain eased up late it confirmed their suspicions that it was a setup. Yawn.
     
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    If you're comparing trump to a POW war hero and man who has devoted his life to the service of this country I would say your an idiot...

    This is how trump supporters think...  Make up lies and fantasy and insults to try to justify supporting an unelectable candidate... 

    I can't believe you insulted McCain and his history of service to his country, putting his life on the line...

    Have you no respect or decency?  

    Oh yeah... Nvm... That's right... You're a trump supporter...
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    If you're comparing trump to a POW war hero and man who has devoted his life to the service of this country I would say your an idiot...

    This is how trump supporters think...  Make up lies and fantasy and insults to try to justify supporting an unelectable candidate... 

    I can't believe you insulted McCain and his history of service to his country, putting his life on the line...

    Have you no respect or decency?  

    Oh yeah... Nvm... That's right... You're a trump supporter...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.aspThe sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.
    The GOP backed Jeb Bush. When he failed they backed the Latino candidates-- Rubio and Cruz. Rubio lost Florida. They backed Cruz. The Dems saw Obama as a rising star right away and he didn't even finish one term as a senator. Cruz did not catch fire, he burned up. They needed to start earlier and should not have gravitated towards the establishment hack in Jeb. Jeb was 2-1 favorite to win when he started. Oh how fortunes change.

    Wow....we agree on something. Trump cast a 'spell' on the American public like the trainwreck or serious accident along the side of the road at the cost of the other candidates not getting much love or respect. I did not like Jeb but Rubio was sensible enough that a centrist like myself could have leaned towards his camp if I felt Hillary would not be a good long term prospect for America....now I feel she is at least a 6/10 for USA's prospects....same as I had Rubio at but Trump is definitely a 1-2/10. I would put McCain at a 8/10 and surprisingly, Bernie Sanders at a 7/10 purely based on trust, enthusiasm and honesty. Otherwise, there is no one else for now.....so Hillary at least can be centrist in her overall view and still help people while Trump will be a catastrophic disaster on many fronts.
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    Concidently, haha.....I was just looking at the Umpire stats on statsfox to see where the edge was.....note the homerism in the Colorado, Cinci and Houston games/scores per team -home/away!https://www.statfox.com/mlb/umpiremain.aspThe sooner Repubs realize they have been had, the quicker they will realize that they need to look into the future and find a good person to be their candidate for the next presidency. Since they did not bring someone forward, its their own fault for ignoring 17 candidates (lol) last year who had aspirations to fall in love with the shyster called the Donald who has all made you look like fools for believing him. Because right now, his daughter is traveling with Putins girlfriend and they are having a laugh over this silly venture that America is on.........Google it and you will find that.
    The GOP backed Jeb Bush. When he failed they backed the Latino candidates-- Rubio and Cruz. Rubio lost Florida. They backed Cruz. The Dems saw Obama as a rising star right away and he didn't even finish one term as a senator. Cruz did not catch fire, he burned up. They needed to start earlier and should not have gravitated towards the establishment hack in Jeb. Jeb was 2-1 favorite to win when he started. Oh how fortunes change.

    Wow....we agree on something. Trump cast a 'spell' on the American public like the trainwreck or serious accident along the side of the road at the cost of the other candidates not getting much love or respect. I did not like Jeb but Rubio was sensible enough that a centrist like myself could have leaned towards his camp if I felt Hillary would not be a good long term prospect for America....now I feel she is at least a 6/10 for USA's prospects....same as I had Rubio at but Trump is definitely a 1-2/10. I would put McCain at a 8/10 and surprisingly, Bernie Sanders at a 7/10 purely based on trust, enthusiasm and honesty. Otherwise, there is no one else for now.....so Hillary at least can be centrist in her overall view and still help people while Trump will be a catastrophic disaster on many fronts.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    If you're comparing trump to a POW war hero and man who has devoted his life to the service of this country I would say your an idiot...

    This is how trump supporters think...  Make up lies and fantasy and insults to try to justify supporting an unelectable candidate... 

    I can't believe you insulted McCain and his history of service to his country, putting his life on the line...

    Have you no respect or decency?  

    Oh yeah... Nvm... That's right... You're a trump supporter...

    Who is slagging McCain? (certainly not me....he is )
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    If you're comparing trump to a POW war hero and man who has devoted his life to the service of this country I would say your an idiot...

    This is how trump supporters think...  Make up lies and fantasy and insults to try to justify supporting an unelectable candidate... 

    I can't believe you insulted McCain and his history of service to his country, putting his life on the line...

    Have you no respect or decency?  

    Oh yeah... Nvm... That's right... You're a trump supporter...

    Who is slagging McCain? (certainly not me....he is )
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