the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
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the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
Jacob Blake had a knife... maybe if the gov did his job, none of this would have happened... he chose to do what left did... let them protest, no problem with that... however the looting, violence mayhem is on them. It's a shame, this should never happened.
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Jacob Blake had a knife... maybe if the gov did his job, none of this would have happened... he chose to do what left did... let them protest, no problem with that... however the looting, violence mayhem is on them. It's a shame, this should never happened.
Jacob Blake had a knife... maybe if the gov did his job, none of this would have happened... he chose to do what left did... let them protest, no problem with that... however the looting, violence mayhem is on them. It's a shame, this should never happened.
blake did not have a knife in his hand when shot in the back 7 times
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Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:
Jacob Blake had a knife... maybe if the gov did his job, none of this would have happened... he chose to do what left did... let them protest, no problem with that... however the looting, violence mayhem is on them. It's a shame, this should never happened.
blake did not have a knife in his hand when shot in the back 7 times
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
Obviously you have no idea and did not watch / follow any of the trial
The rifle was stored at a friends house in Wisconsin. He did not cross state lines with a rifle. If he had, then the gun charge would not have been dropped.
Everything else you stated DOES NOT MATTER as this trial was based on FACTS and a jury of peers, 12 of them, decided that he acted in SELF DEFENSE.
One of the people he shot was ARMED with a Glock.
One of the people he killed (yes killed in self defense, not murdered) was a CONVICTED CHILD RAPIST. No tears lost for that one....
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
Obviously you have no idea and did not watch / follow any of the trial
The rifle was stored at a friends house in Wisconsin. He did not cross state lines with a rifle. If he had, then the gun charge would not have been dropped.
Everything else you stated DOES NOT MATTER as this trial was based on FACTS and a jury of peers, 12 of them, decided that he acted in SELF DEFENSE.
One of the people he shot was ARMED with a Glock.
One of the people he killed (yes killed in self defense, not murdered) was a CONVICTED CHILD RAPIST. No tears lost for that one....
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
I don't agree with the verdict but I believe in our system and
I accept the decision.
Unfortunately, I have to agree, that a HORRIBLE precedent has now been set and that makes cases in the future much more difficult to prosecute. It is indeed apparent now that any number of people, hundreds even, can travel from out of state with AR-15 type weapons into heated confrontational hot spots like protests and just wait for someone to throw a rock at them, then gun them down without fear of being prosecuted. At least in Wisconsin this is the law for sure, and the precedent will be used elsewhere.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
I don't agree with the verdict but I believe in our system and
I accept the decision.
Unfortunately, I have to agree, that a HORRIBLE precedent has now been set and that makes cases in the future much more difficult to prosecute. It is indeed apparent now that any number of people, hundreds even, can travel from out of state with AR-15 type weapons into heated confrontational hot spots like protests and just wait for someone to throw a rock at them, then gun them down without fear of being prosecuted. At least in Wisconsin this is the law for sure, and the precedent will be used elsewhere.
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
I don't agree with the verdict but I believe in our system and
I accept the decision.
Unfortunately, I have to agree, that a HORRIBLE precedent has now been set and that makes cases in the future much more difficult to prosecute. It is indeed apparent now that any number of people, hundreds even, can travel from out of state with AR-15 type weapons into heated confrontational hot spots like protests and just wait for someone to throw a rock at them, then gun them down without fear of being prosecuted. At least in Wisconsin this is the law for sure, and the precedent will be used elsewhere.
bad ruling but i also accept the decision because this is how our democracy works
but this sets a very bad precedent
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
the teen brandishing a military assault weapon ,who travelled from out of county to deliberately confront UNARMED people in kenosha protesting the immoral shooting of an UNARMED black man in the back by police , and knowingly immersing himself into a dangerous confrontation that he could easily have avoided altogether or walked away from at any point , then shooting 3 people and killing two
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
I don't agree with the verdict but I believe in our system and
I accept the decision.
Unfortunately, I have to agree, that a HORRIBLE precedent has now been set and that makes cases in the future much more difficult to prosecute. It is indeed apparent now that any number of people, hundreds even, can travel from out of state with AR-15 type weapons into heated confrontational hot spots like protests and just wait for someone to throw a rock at them, then gun them down without fear of being prosecuted. At least in Wisconsin this is the law for sure, and the precedent will be used elsewhere.
bad ruling but i also accept the decision because this is how our democracy works
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors .
precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law That's the truly scary part.
It is "not ok". There have been cases of self defense since the pre-dawn of our court systems. You act like this is the first time in history a self defense verdict has resulted in an acquittal. Guess what, there have been some that ended in GUILTY verdicts as well. Each case is different, the circumstances and FACTS involved will be different.
Go look at the Arbury case. One of the defendants is claiming self defense. Completely different circumstance and different set of facts. If the prosecution is half as competent in that case as the prosecution was in this case, then you will see a Guilty verdict handed out there. imho.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law That's the truly scary part.
It is "not ok". There have been cases of self defense since the pre-dawn of our court systems. You act like this is the first time in history a self defense verdict has resulted in an acquittal. Guess what, there have been some that ended in GUILTY verdicts as well. Each case is different, the circumstances and FACTS involved will be different.
Go look at the Arbury case. One of the defendants is claiming self defense. Completely different circumstance and different set of facts. If the prosecution is half as competent in that case as the prosecution was in this case, then you will see a Guilty verdict handed out there. imho.
n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger. Self-defense is a common defense by a person accused of assault, battery or homicide. The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to continue the attack or use excessive force.
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@KellyM_1964
self-defense
n. the use of reasonable force to protect oneself or members of the family from bodily harm from the attack of an aggressor, if the defender has reason to believe he/she/they is/are in danger. Self-defense is a common defense by a person accused of assault, battery or homicide. The force used in self-defense may be sufficient for protection from apparent harm (not just an empty verbal threat) or to halt any danger from attack, but cannot be an excuse to continue the attack or use excessive force.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Agreed. Bad message to Americans.
But that's the law in WI and we have to go along with it if we believe in democracy.
Much like accepting the result of elections. Same deal.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Agreed. Bad message to Americans.
But that's the law in WI and we have to go along with it if we believe in democracy.
Much like accepting the result of elections. Same deal.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Agreed. Bad message to Americans.
But that's the law in WI and we have to go along with it if we believe in democracy.
Much like accepting the result of elections. Same deal.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: it is now ok for people to travel all across america with military assault weapons and place themselves in dangerous confrontations with people protesting crimes against black people -- and if u fee threatened in any way , it is ok to shoot and kill those protestors . precedent has now been set into law
That's the truly scary part.
yep but not much america can do now the verdict is the verdict and the precedent is now the precedent
Still, as bad as that decision was, the good news is that not all states are governed by the law in exactly the same way as Wisconsin.
i suppose that is one way to look at an otherwise bad ruling but as i said i accept the decision too bcuz i believe in our democratic system
but i dont like the message this sends
two more cases on trial this week ::
arbery murder by white nationalists and the charlottesville while nationalist civil case
Agreed. Bad message to Americans.
But that's the law in WI and we have to go along with it if we believe in democracy.
Much like accepting the result of elections. Same deal.
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