North Carolina has lost the NCAA Tournament

to put it another way, in the context of your example, do we think this is the mindset of the sexual predator?

well, sexual assault is a serious felony and if i do it and get caught, i will likely (that stanford swimmer notwithstanding) serve a lot of time in prison.  but f*ck that, i don't care.  i'll do it anyway.  i'm getting my wig and i'm off to the public bathroom.  an odd place to commit a serious crime with the potential for so many witnesses, but so be it

but wait, there's this new law that says i can't go into the women's bathroom.  it's not a criminal law (or if it is, it's a very minor crime) so there's no real penalty attached to it (like with the sexual assault laws) and there's no way to enforce it absent some rightwinger at the door to the bathroom checking penises (which actually might happen in the south, i don't know) so maybe i shouldn't do it after all. 

If anyone thinks the NC law is a sh!t show, wait until some perverted act happens in a public bathroom and it is blamed on an equal-rights law having been passed. THAT will be a real sh!t show. 

In this hypothetical, it is obvious to most everyone with vision that a transgendered person was born a man but is dressed as a woman. This transgender walks into a woman's public bathroom where your 10 year old daughter is doing pee pee. Do you stay seated outside the bathroom so you do not infringe upon the transgendered persons rights? Are you comfortable that your daughter is perfectly safe sitting inside her own stall? Or are you concerned that it could be worse than this?

i answer this as a real conservative, which i consider to be the opposite of a republican "conservative". 

i've lived on this earth for 40+ years.  not once have i ever gone to a public bathroom and wondered or worried about the genitalia of anyone else in there or anyone else who might come in there.  now, if some transvestite did come in and i was in there or my kid was in there, i truly and honestly would not give a f*ck.  one, because i don't care about transvestites and two, i've never in my career heard of a transvestite causing any problems of a criminal nature in a bathroom, or elsewhere for that matter.

so we get to what rush said earlier and my position as to what government is and isn't for.  it's a matter of comfort and awkwardness.  and i don't think the government's job is to make laws to protect people who are uncomfortable or feel awkward in public bathrooms.  especially since we already have laws that deal with people actually committing crimes, if that's what they intend to do.

honestly, if my kid was in the bathroom, i'd be much less worried about a transvestite going in than someone who is worried about the genitalia of other people in that bathroom. 

I would like to know why all of a sudden this became a very important issue to the Left. Apparently all in the name of Progressivism. Basically jamming it down our throats at warp speed. 

here's another way of looking at it.  when you are in government, your job, at least in theory, is to serve the people.  you have to do a cost benefit analysis when you consider a law where you are legislating bathroom attendance, for darn's sake, and also throw in a bunch of other anti-g*y stuff. 

you have to know there's going to be some major backlash.  and this isn't mississippi.  this is a state where people travel, and where there are jobs for educated people, and serious universities and major sporting events and a lot of money at stake.

why the f*ck would you risk all of that for your constituents over something this necessary and ridiculous. 

enough of this silliness ...

could work.  i'll bring this up at the next pta meeting. 

Nope. Liberals and libertarians will not stop their agendas no matter how many die. Liberals and libertarians don't care about life. You could post 29,234 sexual assaults committed by sexual predators with wigs in bathrooms and still liberals would say that it's a small percentage and anyone who says otherwise is a racist and a bigot.

I make it no secret that I used to be a liberal democrat. I also started to shift to libertarianism over my displeasure of both parties.

I came to the realization that everything liberal democrats believe in is a lie - academic-intellectual lies.

I came to the realization that libertarianism is stupid, childish - naive and dangerous - completely unrealistic.

History repeats itself. I came to the realization that republicanism started this country - and it is republicanism that is needed to save the country - once again - from leftist rule.

Amen $... Happy rights started it in the 90's. Please don't bash me. Now it's jamming wedding cake down your throat and the LGBTQRSTKXYW b.s. Now we're on to bathroom issues. Big deal the NCAA won't play in NC.... I applaud NC standing up to the insane liberal agenda.

It is always nice for killerb to offer the uneducated trump supporter perspective to a discussion. 

Amen to that Killer.. It would never happen, but I with Charlotte would tell the NBA to F&ck off and go find another state for their sh&tty franchise.  Michael Jordan is in the way though..

Of course it does... would you like to expand on those other sorts of discrimination ?    

 

I hope folks have pondered on Clubdirts trash.. because that is what it truly is.

Let me summarize.  His 40+ years are a valuable experience, and we should understand that it would be highly unusual for a 'tranny to exert such "exert feelings" ....   How'd I do, tranny.. I mean 'dirt.

 

DL - You seem to know so much about the happy rights movement. You got something to tell us?

Whenever anyone insults, demeans, or belittles me, I go on the verbal offensive, and I can be quite persistent in my attacks, so I'm no angel on this site. 

With that said, why are you attacking CD? (that stands for Club Dirt, not Cross Dresser. You're welcome, CD) Just because he has a different opinion than you? CD and I have different opinions on the subject in this thread, neither of us is right or wrong, it is simply contrasting opinions. 

Rush, your opinion is not a fact. It's ok for someone to disagree with it.

No need to go on the offensive here, it does not prove your side of the debate  

if I feel like being a dog for the day can I whip out my dink and piss all over your front lawn?
NC is the only sensible state that protects women and children while in restrooms!
But then again maybe a 5 year old can take the advice of Massachusetts AG and fellow lesbian Maura Healey.....maybe your little female child should 'hold it' until they get home if you don't want them going pee pee next to a man dressed in a skirt!

my argument isn't that complicated.   it's a matter of how much we want to look to big government to makes us feel comfortable, how much government we want in our lives and the ability of government to accomplish anything in this context anyway.

while i agree government has a role in protecting people, i don't think this particular law does that in any way.  because again, if you are looking for government to protect you in a bathroom from being uncomfortable, you're going to be disappointed.  also, this law does not address people who commit crimes in places where these crimes would be committed in any historically accurate manner.  it would be like fighting religious extremist violence by going after the amish. 

and finally, if you do the cost benefit analysis for a law like this, which government and the people who elect them should always do, this law with its added discriminatory elements is insane.

hugh understands the argument, we have some disagreements and we've discussed it.  some others don't get it, want to characterize it in terms of their insecurity about happy people or transvestites and i have no interest in discussing those particular personal issues you guys have about them.

Just take the signs off all the bathrooms and make everything unisex. I'm sick of hearing people complain/argue over the dumbest things. No ones going to get molested based on what a sign on the bathroom door says. If someone wants in the bathroom they can walk in. Its same thing with the stupid gun argument. Enforcing stricter gun laws isn't going to do anything. If someone wants to commit a crime whether its molesting a child in a bathroom or shooting someone, the sign on the door or the restriction on the gun WILL NOT STOP IT. Open your eyes people 

No ones going to get molested based on what a sign on the bathroom door says. If someone wants in the bathroom they can walk in...

That will never work ,because guys will not put the seat down when they leave and the women will be livid and extremely angry..