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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 6:23 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    canos seems more like a pitcher than a catcher...

    slim seems much more of a catcher than a pitcher...

    raiders plays good defense... perhaps a utility infielder...

    we can give bowslit a uniform and tell him to stand behind the backstop to catch the backwards homeruns...  mr fantasy land will think he is actually on the field and an integral part of the team

    espalande will be a cheerleader, or at least a person that yells hateful and insecure nonsense at the other team... history shows that is his role...

    zelo can do commentary...  give a microphone that is not plugged him and tell him that the nation is listening... he will be talking away regardless thinking what he is saying is important...

    the rest of the actual posters can bat clean up  or anywhere where for that matter as they seem to hit it out of the park regularly off the partisan lemmings...


    Im sure I forgot a few guys....  but regardless if the cut/paste alias circle jerk caucus is gonna join im thinking based on history we are gonna need alot of alternate jerseys with alternate names and numbers...

    It gonna be quite a crazy line up card with all their "substitutions"...  especially when losing and wanting to make the appearance of a larger number of players than there actually are...


    Go team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    canos seems more like a pitcher than a catcher...

    slim seems much more of a catcher than a pitcher...

    raiders plays good defense... perhaps a utility infielder...

    we can give bowslit a uniform and tell him to stand behind the backstop to catch the backwards homeruns...  mr fantasy land will think he is actually on the field and an integral part of the team

    espalande will be a cheerleader, or at least a person that yells hateful and insecure nonsense at the other team... history shows that is his role...

    zelo can do commentary...  give a microphone that is not plugged him and tell him that the nation is listening... he will be talking away regardless thinking what he is saying is important...

    the rest of the actual posters can bat clean up  or anywhere where for that matter as they seem to hit it out of the park regularly off the partisan lemmings...


    Im sure I forgot a few guys....  but regardless if the cut/paste alias circle jerk caucus is gonna join im thinking based on history we are gonna need alot of alternate jerseys with alternate names and numbers...

    It gonna be quite a crazy line up card with all their "substitutions"...  especially when losing and wanting to make the appearance of a larger number of players than there actually are...


    Go team!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2014 - 10:33 PM ET #102

    Dl36 - I am not sure if Canos agrees. But as one of the 3 resident non-partisan independents I am not sure if I am too keen on accepting slim's attempt to enter the club just yet. I just do not think we have enough data yet.

    What do you think Canos?
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    Dl36 - I am not sure if Canos agrees. But as one of the 3 resident non-partisan independents I am not sure if I am too keen on accepting slim's attempt to enter the club just yet. I just do not think we have enough data yet.

    What do you think Canos?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2014 - 1:15 AM ET #103

    Could someone post the link to the Healthcare Plan the Republicans proposed.  I can't find it.
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    Could someone post the link to the Healthcare Plan the Republicans proposed.  I can't find it.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2014 - 7:53 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    because of their stance on immigration?

    I think there was alot more to it
    Nah. Do not think at that time it had much, if anything, to do with it. Guy just always brings up stuff off topic it seems to me. My point was simply why pick them?  Other candidates may have had different views. But my point is that folks don't or didn't care as much about that issue at that time...so those guys didn't matter. If the folks cared or had the fortitude of it being a top priority it may have been different candidates---or even those may have taken a different stance. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    because of their stance on immigration?

    I think there was alot more to it
    Nah. Do not think at that time it had much, if anything, to do with it. Guy just always brings up stuff off topic it seems to me. My point was simply why pick them?  Other candidates may have had different views. But my point is that folks don't or didn't care as much about that issue at that time...so those guys didn't matter. If the folks cared or had the fortitude of it being a top priority it may have been different candidates---or even those may have taken a different stance. 
     
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    Evolution happens eventually.  In the past, both Republican and Democrat Presidents have made similar reforms to immigration laws and healthcare system.  Probably, future presidents will make more  hard decisions because of necessity.  Presidents are most criticized while in power but future historians tend to be kinder.
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    Evolution happens eventually.  In the past, both Republican and Democrat Presidents have made similar reforms to immigration laws and healthcare system.  Probably, future presidents will make more  hard decisions because of necessity.  Presidents are most criticized while in power but future historians tend to be kinder.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 4:28 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Dl36 - I am not sure if Canos agrees. But as one of the 3 resident non-partisan independents I am not sure if I am too keen on accepting slim's attempt to enter the club just yet. I just do not think we have enough data yet.

    What do you think Canos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Dl36 - I am not sure if Canos agrees. But as one of the 3 resident non-partisan independents I am not sure if I am too keen on accepting slim's attempt to enter the club just yet. I just do not think we have enough data yet.

    What do you think Canos?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Evolution happens eventually.  In the past, both Republican and Democrat Presidents have made similar reforms to immigration laws and healthcare system.  Probably, future presidents will make more  hard decisions because of necessity.  Presidents are most criticized while in power but future historians tend to be kinder.

    I wonder if you have to believe in evolution for it to happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Evolution happens eventually.  In the past, both Republican and Democrat Presidents have made similar reforms to immigration laws and healthcare system.  Probably, future presidents will make more  hard decisions because of necessity.  Presidents are most criticized while in power but future historians tend to be kinder.

    I wonder if you have to believe in evolution for it to happen?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2014 - 6:27 PM ET #108

    Im thinking I missed a few on the roster...

    perhaps that is why some people seem so bent out of shape lately...
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    Im thinking I missed a few on the roster...

    perhaps that is why some people seem so bent out of shape lately...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 5:56 PM ET #109

    bettingforfun,

    what position would you like to play?

    Im sorry if because you were left out you have gone completely bonkers again...
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    bettingforfun,

    what position would you like to play?

    Im sorry if because you were left out you have gone completely bonkers again...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Could someone post the link to the Healthcare Plan the Republicans proposed.  I can't find it.


    Probably because you didn't really look did you? 

    You just decided to parrot a talking point you heard thrown around the media without thinking (or looking) for yourself. 

    Scroll to the bottom of the linked article, there is a list of GOP proposals.  This is the last time I am doing your homework.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/seriously-the-republicans-have-no-health-plan/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettingforfun:

    Could someone post the link to the Healthcare Plan the Republicans proposed.  I can't find it.


    Probably because you didn't really look did you? 

    You just decided to parrot a talking point you heard thrown around the media without thinking (or looking) for yourself. 

    Scroll to the bottom of the linked article, there is a list of GOP proposals.  This is the last time I am doing your homework.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/seriously-the-republicans-have-no-health-plan/
     
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    rick...

    pick up a glove, bring your bat...  join the team....

    you seem to have a knack at hitting it out of the park on the partisan lemming parrots...

    but then again its not that hard as you already know what pitch their are gonna throw..

    Their msnbc/foxnews broadcasts the signals
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    rick...

    pick up a glove, bring your bat...  join the team....

    you seem to have a knack at hitting it out of the park on the partisan lemming parrots...

    but then again its not that hard as you already know what pitch their are gonna throw..

    Their msnbc/foxnews broadcasts the signals
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2014 - 6:52 PM ET #112

    I am not a non-partisan independent.
    I am a strong supporter of numerous causes, therefore quite partisan.
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    I am not a non-partisan independent.
    I am a strong supporter of numerous causes, therefore quite partisan.
     
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    cool...

    I respect where you are coming from that you choose causes to support rather than support the causes chosen for you...


    perhaps you are not a non-partisan like I am, but perhaps we are similar in that we are independent... independent in choosing a view
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    cool...

    I respect where you are coming from that you choose causes to support rather than support the causes chosen for you...


    perhaps you are not a non-partisan like I am, but perhaps we are similar in that we are independent... independent in choosing a view
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



    Probably because you didn't really look did you? 

    You just decided to parrot a talking point you heard thrown around the media without thinking (or looking) for yourself. 

    Scroll to the bottom of the linked article, there is a list of GOP proposals.  This is the last time I am doing your homework.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/seriously-the-republicans-have-no-health-plan/

    Thanks.  I looked at Enzi's plan and it looks pretty good.  I wish plans like his would have been made more public so more people were aware.  I never really heard the Republicans campaigning on healthcare reform and offering up alternatives.  At least not on the national level.

    Now let me tell you where I am coming from.  I am a small business owner and couldn't get into a large pool.  Before Obamacare I was paying $1500 a month for my wife and myself.  ( no pre-existing conditions I might add).  Now with Obamacare I am paying about 300 a month, kept my doctor and better coverage.  I realize I am in the minority but I am quite happy after being ripped off for years.  I expected to pay about 6 or 700 a month and would have been happy with that.  I know this won't last but I will take it while I can.  When the economy tanked I went without insurance for about 2 1/2 years and accumulated some medical bills.  Now I can afford to pay them off.

    You have to admit both parties were dragging their feet on this issue and nothing was getting done.  I will be fine with them tweaking healthcare as long as my premiums can stay in that 6 to 8 hundred range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:



    Probably because you didn't really look did you? 

    You just decided to parrot a talking point you heard thrown around the media without thinking (or looking) for yourself. 

    Scroll to the bottom of the linked article, there is a list of GOP proposals.  This is the last time I am doing your homework.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/08/28/seriously-the-republicans-have-no-health-plan/

    Thanks.  I looked at Enzi's plan and it looks pretty good.  I wish plans like his would have been made more public so more people were aware.  I never really heard the Republicans campaigning on healthcare reform and offering up alternatives.  At least not on the national level.

    Now let me tell you where I am coming from.  I am a small business owner and couldn't get into a large pool.  Before Obamacare I was paying $1500 a month for my wife and myself.  ( no pre-existing conditions I might add).  Now with Obamacare I am paying about 300 a month, kept my doctor and better coverage.  I realize I am in the minority but I am quite happy after being ripped off for years.  I expected to pay about 6 or 700 a month and would have been happy with that.  I know this won't last but I will take it while I can.  When the economy tanked I went without insurance for about 2 1/2 years and accumulated some medical bills.  Now I can afford to pay them off.

    You have to admit both parties were dragging their feet on this issue and nothing was getting done.  I will be fine with them tweaking healthcare as long as my premiums can stay in that 6 to 8 hundred range.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    I am not a non-partisan independent.
    I am a strong supporter of numerous causes, therefore quite partisan.

    Way to shut down the A$$ kisser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

    I am not a non-partisan independent.
    I am a strong supporter of numerous causes, therefore quite partisan.

    Way to shut down the A$$ kisser.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    cool...

    I respect where you are coming from that you choose causes to support rather than support the causes chosen for you...


    perhaps you are not a non-partisan like I am, but perhaps we are similar in that we are independent... independent in choosing a view

    I am CHOOSING to support Obamacare and my INDEPENDENT VIEW is that I like my plan.  Could you be any more of a simpleton?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    cool...

    I respect where you are coming from that you choose causes to support rather than support the causes chosen for you...


    perhaps you are not a non-partisan like I am, but perhaps we are similar in that we are independent... independent in choosing a view

    I am CHOOSING to support Obamacare and my INDEPENDENT VIEW is that I like my plan.  Could you be any more of a simpleton?
     
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    Why so insulting and angry?  ease up on the caps...  

    I wasn't even talking to you...

    please refrain from your infantile childish games while the adults are talking...


    It make me wonder... are you all upset about something I am posting now? or something in the past?  not sure why you are so obsessed with me...

    well...

    Covers knows
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    Why so insulting and angry?  ease up on the caps...  

    I wasn't even talking to you...

    please refrain from your infantile childish games while the adults are talking...


    It make me wonder... are you all upset about something I am posting now? or something in the past?  not sure why you are so obsessed with me...

    well...

    Covers knows
     
     
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