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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 11:18 AM ET #26

    @Midnight1

     Sure, diss our closest ally.

    You're smart enough to know that's not a good idea.

     

    "closest ally 20 years ago" yes.  Oh how times have changed.  Few Americans follow what goes on across the pond.  Britain is no longer the Britain of the cold war or even the 90s into the "oughts".  The Country has transformed demographically, socially, and politically since the Tony Blair days.  The British have very little to offer us in today's world as an "ally".  They are inconsequential on the world stage, no more so than any common EU member.  Reputation is all they have no to hang their hat on and it is completely from their own doing.  These are not arguable facts.  

    What can be argued is "who is our closest ally".  Canada?  Perhaps.  My vote goes to Israel though.  They have more influence within the US political system than ANY Country on earth.  $ for $ its not even close in terms of military aid.  

     

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    @Midnight1

     Sure, diss our closest ally.

    You're smart enough to know that's not a good idea.

     

    "closest ally 20 years ago" yes.  Oh how times have changed.  Few Americans follow what goes on across the pond.  Britain is no longer the Britain of the cold war or even the 90s into the "oughts".  The Country has transformed demographically, socially, and politically since the Tony Blair days.  The British have very little to offer us in today's world as an "ally".  They are inconsequential on the world stage, no more so than any common EU member.  Reputation is all they have no to hang their hat on and it is completely from their own doing.  These are not arguable facts.  

    What can be argued is "who is our closest ally".  Canada?  Perhaps.  My vote goes to Israel though.  They have more influence within the US political system than ANY Country on earth.  $ for $ its not even close in terms of military aid.  

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 11:26 AM ET #27

    This expert from the author reminds me of when Darkness posed the question to the forum "has anyone ever seen Trump laugh?"  At the time I did not remember seeing any videos of him in the past actually "laughing".  

    Then at the UFC fight in MSG after he won the election I remember seeing him smiling and laughing with Bones Jones.  

    But this one takes the cake right here. Mid, do take a look at it, Trump actually loses it a little bit giggling before he brings it back together. 

    For anyone suffering from TDS and can't make it through 60 seconds of video, the first quip comes at :14 second mark.  The good one is at the 1:08 mark, so feel free to skip ahead to view the historic video here.  

    Only video I have of him laughing and losing his composure for a few seconds.  Good stuff.  

    https://x.com/megynkelly/status/18833540105872018130

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    This expert from the author reminds me of when Darkness posed the question to the forum "has anyone ever seen Trump laugh?"  At the time I did not remember seeing any videos of him in the past actually "laughing".  

    Then at the UFC fight in MSG after he won the election I remember seeing him smiling and laughing with Bones Jones.  

    But this one takes the cake right here. Mid, do take a look at it, Trump actually loses it a little bit giggling before he brings it back together. 

    For anyone suffering from TDS and can't make it through 60 seconds of video, the first quip comes at :14 second mark.  The good one is at the 1:08 mark, so feel free to skip ahead to view the historic video here.  

    Only video I have of him laughing and losing his composure for a few seconds.  Good stuff.  

    https://x.com/megynkelly/status/18833540105872018130

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 11:27 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1  Sure, diss our closest ally. You're smart enough to know that's not a good idea.   "closest ally 20 years ago" yes.  Oh how times have changed.  Few Americans follow what goes on across the pond.  Britain is no longer the Britain of the cold war or even the 90s into the "oughts".  The Country has transformed demographically, socially, and politically since the Tony Blair days.  The British have very little to offer us in today's world as an "ally".  They are inconsequential on the world stage, no more so than any common EU member.  Reputation is all they have no to hang their hat on and it is completely from their own doing.  These are not arguable facts.   What can be argued is "who is our closest ally".  Canada?  Perhaps.  My vote goes to Israel though.  They have more influence within the US political system than ANY Country on earth.  $ for $ its not even close in terms of military aid.

    That's one way street. Israel uses us while viewing us (non-jewish Americans) as beneath us. Those canucks are our neighbors. They're always down to fight by our side while never asking us for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @Midnight1  Sure, diss our closest ally. You're smart enough to know that's not a good idea.   "closest ally 20 years ago" yes.  Oh how times have changed.  Few Americans follow what goes on across the pond.  Britain is no longer the Britain of the cold war or even the 90s into the "oughts".  The Country has transformed demographically, socially, and politically since the Tony Blair days.  The British have very little to offer us in today's world as an "ally".  They are inconsequential on the world stage, no more so than any common EU member.  Reputation is all they have no to hang their hat on and it is completely from their own doing.  These are not arguable facts.   What can be argued is "who is our closest ally".  Canada?  Perhaps.  My vote goes to Israel though.  They have more influence within the US political system than ANY Country on earth.  $ for $ its not even close in terms of military aid.

    That's one way street. Israel uses us while viewing us (non-jewish Americans) as beneath us. Those canucks are our neighbors. They're always down to fight by our side while never asking us for anything.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 11:30 AM ET #29

    @fubah2

     Of course there is so much more but those are just a few of the main highlights of the GOP scumbag fascist, sex-offender/convicted felon

     

    Please tell us all more.  We are not familiar with your game, perhaps only if there were a dozen other threads outlining these highlights over and over and over again for the past 5 years....

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    @fubah2

     Of course there is so much more but those are just a few of the main highlights of the GOP scumbag fascist, sex-offender/convicted felon

     

    Please tell us all more.  We are not familiar with your game, perhaps only if there were a dozen other threads outlining these highlights over and over and over again for the past 5 years....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 11:31 AM ET #30

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     One way street it is peace_5 

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     One way street it is peace_5 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 1:06 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Ok so, the other 64 or so woman who accused him of assault are also looking for their 15 minutes of fame? C'mon now

    I don't know where these numbers come from but I will say this. I delved deep into this law suit. There was no actual evidence. The one thing they used to rule against Trump was prior accusations. So lets look at those prior accusations.

    The first, Ivanna Trump, during contentious divorce proceedings, claimed he once sexually assaulted her. Quite possible as most sexual assaults and rapes are perpetrated by a mate or personal acquaintance, but probably a ploy to gain leverage in the divorce. She gained no leverage, recanted her statement, and the remained more or less on good terms until her death.

    The second, an associate of Trump in the early 90s, made claims of unwanted advances towards her on two occasions, one of which was with her boyfriend while visiting Mar-a-lago. She says he tried to kiss her. The accusation caused him to back out of a business deal. She sued for breach of contract. He settled. After almost 25 years, age contacts him to work on his campaign. I believe she was a make-up artist or something at this point. He hired her.

    The rest are all vapor. Miasma. After E. Jean Carroll's accusations, and the whole Epstein situation, a few whack jobs made some wild claims. They were quickly found to be whack jobs out for a pay day who had never even been in the same room with Trump. Literally no connection. Then there were the pageant contestants who claimed Trump would walk around backstage while they were undressed. Now this is probably true. He said as much himself. This is the thing that most people don't realize about most pageants, fashion shows, and even often the ballet. The women are often backstage in various states of undress in front of producers, directors, stagehands, dressers, hair and make-up artist, and various other staff. It's a mad house. Everything happens quick. Wardrobe changes are quick. There are tons of women and they often aren't going back into private dressing rooms. Trump may have walked around back there. It wouldn't have been out of the ordinary. He even jokes about it, which makes him a creep. Not a rapist. None of those women complained until he ran for President and it became a story.

    Trump has been in the public eye for over 40 years. We haven't seen any indication that he is capable of the kind of behavior claimed by Ms. Carroll. They circulated a picture of them together to put it in people's minds that they dated, and that literally became the narrative. The media did this because, as I said, most sexual assaults and rapes are perpetrated by mates are acquaintances. They didn't know wach other like that though. That famous picture that made people think they were on a date, they weren't. They were simply part of the same social circle and were phographed together. There is another picture from that era that shows him and his then wife (Ivana) and her and her then husband. The media didn't plaster that picture everywhere though. It didn't fit there narrative. E.Jean Carroll stole a storyline from Law & Order to sell a book. She also accused Les Moonves of sexual assault. She aimed to shop a book about how bad men are. She looked at two famous and powerful men who at the time were mired in sex scandals (Trump with Stormy Daniels), and she said, "Yep, the assaulted me." Her story about Trump has so many holes in it, it wouldn't even make an effective fishing net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Ok so, the other 64 or so woman who accused him of assault are also looking for their 15 minutes of fame? C'mon now

    I don't know where these numbers come from but I will say this. I delved deep into this law suit. There was no actual evidence. The one thing they used to rule against Trump was prior accusations. So lets look at those prior accusations.

    The first, Ivanna Trump, during contentious divorce proceedings, claimed he once sexually assaulted her. Quite possible as most sexual assaults and rapes are perpetrated by a mate or personal acquaintance, but probably a ploy to gain leverage in the divorce. She gained no leverage, recanted her statement, and the remained more or less on good terms until her death.

    The second, an associate of Trump in the early 90s, made claims of unwanted advances towards her on two occasions, one of which was with her boyfriend while visiting Mar-a-lago. She says he tried to kiss her. The accusation caused him to back out of a business deal. She sued for breach of contract. He settled. After almost 25 years, age contacts him to work on his campaign. I believe she was a make-up artist or something at this point. He hired her.

    The rest are all vapor. Miasma. After E. Jean Carroll's accusations, and the whole Epstein situation, a few whack jobs made some wild claims. They were quickly found to be whack jobs out for a pay day who had never even been in the same room with Trump. Literally no connection. Then there were the pageant contestants who claimed Trump would walk around backstage while they were undressed. Now this is probably true. He said as much himself. This is the thing that most people don't realize about most pageants, fashion shows, and even often the ballet. The women are often backstage in various states of undress in front of producers, directors, stagehands, dressers, hair and make-up artist, and various other staff. It's a mad house. Everything happens quick. Wardrobe changes are quick. There are tons of women and they often aren't going back into private dressing rooms. Trump may have walked around back there. It wouldn't have been out of the ordinary. He even jokes about it, which makes him a creep. Not a rapist. None of those women complained until he ran for President and it became a story.

    Trump has been in the public eye for over 40 years. We haven't seen any indication that he is capable of the kind of behavior claimed by Ms. Carroll. They circulated a picture of them together to put it in people's minds that they dated, and that literally became the narrative. The media did this because, as I said, most sexual assaults and rapes are perpetrated by mates are acquaintances. They didn't know wach other like that though. That famous picture that made people think they were on a date, they weren't. They were simply part of the same social circle and were phographed together. There is another picture from that era that shows him and his then wife (Ivana) and her and her then husband. The media didn't plaster that picture everywhere though. It didn't fit there narrative. E.Jean Carroll stole a storyline from Law & Order to sell a book. She also accused Les Moonves of sexual assault. She aimed to shop a book about how bad men are. She looked at two famous and powerful men who at the time were mired in sex scandals (Trump with Stormy Daniels), and she said, "Yep, the assaulted me." Her story about Trump has so many holes in it, it wouldn't even make an effective fishing net.

     
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    Replace Trump's name with any common person 's name , there would be none of this.  Most realize what it was , a sham, political stunt, showing the American people and the world how dirty, sleazy, arrogant, corrupt ( and much more) the biden administration was.  Then again ,the people who can't understand,  see, comprehend this are the ones who believe guys can play in girls sports, kid can get mutilated before becoming adults to name a couple of awful policies. 

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    Replace Trump's name with any common person 's name , there would be none of this.  Most realize what it was , a sham, political stunt, showing the American people and the world how dirty, sleazy, arrogant, corrupt ( and much more) the biden administration was.  Then again ,the people who can't understand,  see, comprehend this are the ones who believe guys can play in girls sports, kid can get mutilated before becoming adults to name a couple of awful policies. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2025 - 3:18 PM ET #33

     It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike.

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     It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike.

    Call Trump a racist based on the actions of his father but Biden, who has an actual history of racism, "That was a long time ago. He's learned from his past mistakes."

    Could you imagine if Trump ran around talking about, "...the little black children rubbing his legs and then me an my boys had a rumble with Cornpop and his crew."

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike.

    Call Trump a racist based on the actions of his father but Biden, who has an actual history of racism, "That was a long time ago. He's learned from his past mistakes."

    Could you imagine if Trump ran around talking about, "...the little black children rubbing his legs and then me an my boys had a rumble with Cornpop and his crew."

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @fubah2  You have to be convicted of sexual assault in criminal court to be a sex offender. Not lose a judgement in a civil matter to a nutjob who steals a storyline from Law & Order to get a book deal. As I have said a million times, nobody who is actually interested in the truth, nobody who has taken the time to actually look into that case, would ever call him a sex offender. All you're doing is making a mockery of actual victims.

     

     

     

    Ok so, the other 64 or so woman who accused him of assault are also looking for their 15 minutes of fame? C'mon now

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: @fubah2  You have to be convicted of sexual assault in criminal court to be a sex offender. Not lose a judgement in a civil matter to a nutjob who steals a storyline from Law & Order to get a book deal. As I have said a million times, nobody who is actually interested in the truth, nobody who has taken the time to actually look into that case, would ever call him a sex offender. All you're doing is making a mockery of actual victims.

     

     

     

    Ok so, the other 64 or so woman who accused him of assault are also looking for their 15 minutes of fame? C'mon now

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike. Call Trump a racist based on the actions of his father but Biden, who has an actual history of racism, "That was a long time ago. He's learned from his past mistakes." Could you imagine if Trump ran around talking about, "...the little black children rubbing his legs and then me an my boys had a rumble with Cornpop and his crew."
    Exactly.... peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: It's human nature for people to dump on someone they don't like, & cover for someone they do. The Trump-Biden  is a good example. Libs will exaggerate everything they can to denigrate Trump, but give Biden at least a 9.5 for falling off his bike. Call Trump a racist based on the actions of his father but Biden, who has an actual history of racism, "That was a long time ago. He's learned from his past mistakes." Could you imagine if Trump ran around talking about, "...the little black children rubbing his legs and then me an my boys had a rumble with Cornpop and his crew."
    Exactly.... peace_5

     
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     The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.

    BTW..good for you finding the POS giggling!

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    Here are a few

    https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

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     The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.

    BTW..good for you finding the POS giggling!

    @StumpTownStu

    Here are a few

    https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

    @THEMUGG

     Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..."

     

      

     
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    No rule says he has to call only 'allies' after he was inaugurated.

    "underscores his administration's focus on strengthening international ties"

    He had already called, or received calls from a lot of them after winning and during the week of the inauguration.  Some had also been over already to see him at a couple of the balls.

    This was the first USA Presidential Inauguration where World Leaders attended.  Some attended and some sent representatives.

    Han Zheng

    Javier Milei

    Santiago Peña

    Giorgia Meloni

    Salome Zourabichvili

    Daniel Noboa

    Nayib Bukele

    Takeshi Iwaya

    Subrahmanyam Jaishankar

    Eric Zemmour

    Nigel Farage

    Han Kuo-yu

    Boris Johnson

    Barack Obama

    George W. Bush

    Bill Clinton

    So, no need to call a lot of them that he had already spoken to -- or that he could actually speak to in person.

     

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    Michelle Obama

    Karen Pence

    Nancy Pelosi

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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    No rule says he has to call only 'allies' after he was inaugurated.

    "underscores his administration's focus on strengthening international ties"

    He had already called, or received calls from a lot of them after winning and during the week of the inauguration.  Some had also been over already to see him at a couple of the balls.

    This was the first USA Presidential Inauguration where World Leaders attended.  Some attended and some sent representatives.

    Han Zheng

    Javier Milei

    Santiago Peña

    Giorgia Meloni

    Salome Zourabichvili

    Daniel Noboa

    Nayib Bukele

    Takeshi Iwaya

    Subrahmanyam Jaishankar

    Eric Zemmour

    Nigel Farage

    Han Kuo-yu

    Boris Johnson

    Barack Obama

    George W. Bush

    Bill Clinton

    So, no need to call a lot of them that he had already spoken to -- or that he could actually speak to in person.

     

    Did not attend:

    Michelle Obama

    Karen Pence

    Nancy Pelosi

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

     peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

     The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.

     

     

    @StumpTownStu

    Here are a few

    https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

     

    @THEMUGG

     Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..."

    Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1 win

     

     

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     The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.

     

     

    @StumpTownStu

    Here are a few

    https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

     

    @THEMUGG

     Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..."

    Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1 win

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @kcblitzkrieg  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies. BTW..good for you finding the POS giggling! @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/ @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..."

    I find it interesting, and maybe it's just a councidence, that aside from the instances I had already mentioned, every single one of these women "came forward" in 2016. Was there something significant about 2016? What happened in 2016.

    Look, to be clear, i'm not some Trump apologist. If he's really a creep, going around randomly kissing girls and putting them on the ass, I have no words for him. I find it interesting that not one of these pageant contestants came forward prior to 2016 but neither here nor there. My position has never had anything to do with other accusations. I don't believe he raped E.Jean Carroll in a Bergdorf dressing room. Her story has too many inconsistencies, and sounds made up. And it's eerily similar to a Law & Order episode. The woman can't even remember in what month/year it allegedly happened. "Maybe it was fall of this year. Maybe it was spring of that year." You never see that. Repressed memories aren't really a thing. Most psychologist agree. Sometimes a child may have a traumatic experience that they are too young to understand, and as they get older, and gain ubderstanding, it takes the form of a "repressed memory" but rape victims don't forget when they were raped. She knows that if she narrowed it down, it would give him the opportunity to possibly show that he wasn’t even in town. Ao she creates an essentially 9 month window. I won't go into all the inconsistencies because I know Democrats don't really care about the truth. They just want to call him a rapist. That's why the judge came out and said thst whst he was found liable for doesn't constitute rape under New York law but it should be viewed as such. There is a lot to unpack in that statement. E.Jean Carroll accused him of rape. She said he penetrated her first withbhis fingers, and then his penis. Even the jury that awarded her a settlement ruled that it was unlikely, but gave her the finger part. The very jury that ruled for her didn't even fully believe her story. Let that sink in. Usually a rape accuser is believed, or disbelieved. They didn't believe her. Her story just doesn't add up but they threw her a consolation prize.

    E.Jean Carroll is a sick woman. We read a lot memoirs in my house, my wife especially. Life stories of regular people often faced with horrifying circumstances. I have read many accounts of rape. Nobody writes about the experience like that woman. It's like a harlequin novel. The woman is a writer. She wrote a story. Democrats, 99.9% of which never read her account, ate it up because they wanted to believe.

    If Donald Trump is going around groping women and giving them unsolicited kisses, then he is a horrible human being and should be punished in this life or the next but that is a far cry from raping a chick you barely know in a department store dressing room. Democrats though. They want you to believe DONALD J. TRUMP, one of the most recognized faces in the country, certainly New York, even before politics walked into Bergdorf and raped a chick in a dressing room, then slipped out undetected. Ok.

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    @kcblitzkrieg  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies. BTW..good for you finding the POS giggling! @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/ @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..."

    I find it interesting, and maybe it's just a councidence, that aside from the instances I had already mentioned, every single one of these women "came forward" in 2016. Was there something significant about 2016? What happened in 2016.

    Look, to be clear, i'm not some Trump apologist. If he's really a creep, going around randomly kissing girls and putting them on the ass, I have no words for him. I find it interesting that not one of these pageant contestants came forward prior to 2016 but neither here nor there. My position has never had anything to do with other accusations. I don't believe he raped E.Jean Carroll in a Bergdorf dressing room. Her story has too many inconsistencies, and sounds made up. And it's eerily similar to a Law & Order episode. The woman can't even remember in what month/year it allegedly happened. "Maybe it was fall of this year. Maybe it was spring of that year." You never see that. Repressed memories aren't really a thing. Most psychologist agree. Sometimes a child may have a traumatic experience that they are too young to understand, and as they get older, and gain ubderstanding, it takes the form of a "repressed memory" but rape victims don't forget when they were raped. She knows that if she narrowed it down, it would give him the opportunity to possibly show that he wasn’t even in town. Ao she creates an essentially 9 month window. I won't go into all the inconsistencies because I know Democrats don't really care about the truth. They just want to call him a rapist. That's why the judge came out and said thst whst he was found liable for doesn't constitute rape under New York law but it should be viewed as such. There is a lot to unpack in that statement. E.Jean Carroll accused him of rape. She said he penetrated her first withbhis fingers, and then his penis. Even the jury that awarded her a settlement ruled that it was unlikely, but gave her the finger part. The very jury that ruled for her didn't even fully believe her story. Let that sink in. Usually a rape accuser is believed, or disbelieved. They didn't believe her. Her story just doesn't add up but they threw her a consolation prize.

    E.Jean Carroll is a sick woman. We read a lot memoirs in my house, my wife especially. Life stories of regular people often faced with horrifying circumstances. I have read many accounts of rape. Nobody writes about the experience like that woman. It's like a harlequin novel. The woman is a writer. She wrote a story. Democrats, 99.9% of which never read her account, ate it up because they wanted to believe.

    If Donald Trump is going around groping women and giving them unsolicited kisses, then he is a horrible human being and should be punished in this life or the next but that is a far cry from raping a chick you barely know in a department store dressing room. Democrats though. They want you to believe DONALD J. TRUMP, one of the most recognized faces in the country, certainly New York, even before politics walked into Bergdorf and raped a chick in a dressing room, then slipped out undetected. Ok.

     
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    You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.  

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    You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.

    Screw an ordinary Joe, even if Donald Trump himself was accused of this when it allegedly happened, the case never goes to trial. He's never brought up on charges. The case has too many holes. It's too unbelievable. There's no evidence. It was a civil case though, over 20 years later, and was always a witch hunt. Thst is a sick women. She wanted to write a book about how horrible men are, that's the premise. She looked around. Trump was in the midst of the Stormy Daniels controversy, which was consensual. She took a storyline from Law & Order and said he raped her in a bathroom. Les Moonves was caught up in his own scandal so she said he sexually assaulted her in an elevator. And not to be like that, but we're talking about a 50 something year old mildly unattractive woman that apparently guys couldn't keep their hands off of. Maybe she was attractive in her youth by some conventional standards, tall, skinny, face symmetry, but she wasn't what you would call a not 50+ year old. Not that you have to be hot to be assaulted but this notion that multiple men just couldn't control themselves around her is pure fiction.

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    Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.

    Screw an ordinary Joe, even if Donald Trump himself was accused of this when it allegedly happened, the case never goes to trial. He's never brought up on charges. The case has too many holes. It's too unbelievable. There's no evidence. It was a civil case though, over 20 years later, and was always a witch hunt. Thst is a sick women. She wanted to write a book about how horrible men are, that's the premise. She looked around. Trump was in the midst of the Stormy Daniels controversy, which was consensual. She took a storyline from Law & Order and said he raped her in a bathroom. Les Moonves was caught up in his own scandal so she said he sexually assaulted her in an elevator. And not to be like that, but we're talking about a 50 something year old mildly unattractive woman that apparently guys couldn't keep their hands off of. Maybe she was attractive in her youth by some conventional standards, tall, skinny, face symmetry, but she wasn't what you would call a not 50+ year old. Not that you have to be hot to be assaulted but this notion that multiple men just couldn't control themselves around her is pure fiction.

     
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    So true stu!!

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    So true stu!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.     @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/   @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..." Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1

    From my experiences ............That's a true statement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.     @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/   @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..." Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1

    From my experiences ............That's a true statement..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.     @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/   @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..." Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1 From my experiences ............That's a true statement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:  The POS made his first calls as President to Saudi Arabia & El Salvador. That tells me all I need to know about who HE considers his allies.     @StumpTownStu Here are a few https://19thnews.org/2023/10/donald-trump-associates-sexual-misconduct-allegations/   @THEMUGG  Didn't he tell us "They let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the..." Keep up the great reporting, Midnight1 From my experiences ............That's a true statement..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.

    An ordinary Joe would be serving time.

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    Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that.

    An ordinary Joe would be serving time.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that. An ordinary Joe would be serving time.

    They wouldn't though. Emphatically, they wouldn't. Even if that woman comes forward within the statute of limitations, no criminal court would evet draw charges forva case where there's zero evidence. Are you trying to imply that Trump got preferential treatment in a New York court? You can't be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that. An ordinary Joe would be serving time.

    They wouldn't though. Emphatically, they wouldn't. Even if that woman comes forward within the statute of limitations, no criminal court would evet draw charges forva case where there's zero evidence. Are you trying to imply that Trump got preferential treatment in a New York court? You can't be serious.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that. An ordinary Joe would be serving time. They wouldn't though. Emphatically, they wouldn't. Even if that woman comes forward within the statute of limitations, no criminal court would evet draw charges forva case where there's zero evidence. Are you trying to imply that Trump got preferential treatment in a New York court? You can't be serious.

    Preferential treatment???

    Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon.

    With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos: Stu.. You put an ordinary joe instead of Trump, none of this exists.  It's purely horsecrap and political and most realize that. An ordinary Joe would be serving time. They wouldn't though. Emphatically, they wouldn't. Even if that woman comes forward within the statute of limitations, no criminal court would evet draw charges forva case where there's zero evidence. Are you trying to imply that Trump got preferential treatment in a New York court? You can't be serious.

    Preferential treatment???

    Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon.

    With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

      Preferential treatment??? Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon. With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison.

    This is an incorrect statement....fake info !...

    Fact:

    A 12-person jury in New York on May 30 found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts of business fraud

     

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      Preferential treatment??? Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon. With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison.

    This is an incorrect statement....fake info !...

    Fact:

    A 12-person jury in New York on May 30 found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts of business fraud

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   Preferential treatment??? Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon. With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison. This is an incorrect statement....fake info !... Fact: A 12-person jury in New York on May 30 found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts of business fraud

    These are two separate cases & you should know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:   Preferential treatment??? Nah, the jury found that he committed sexual abuse in the Caroll case & he's a 32 time convicted felon. With this record, a regular Joe would be in prison. This is an incorrect statement....fake info !... Fact: A 12-person jury in New York on May 30 found Trump guilty on 34 felony counts of business fraud

    These are two separate cases & you should know that.

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