You all have pretty much the same view of Dr.Fauci but yet none of you have answered why the POS didn't replace him.
How would he have done this? For one, he couldn’t directly fire him. He could have tried to get Collins or Azar to do it. They would have explained to him how complicated and unlikely that would be to do quickly. In fact, I would not be surprised if they did not have that discussion.
Secondly, Trump is on record trying to quash some of the rumors at the time by saying they had a good relationship, but that he did not agree with him on all things.
So, I am sure he realized or was told that was not the right time to put the country in a situation like that.
What he should have done was simply dismiss all of Fauci’s nonsense that was pervading the political spectrum at the time.
He did not need to allow Fauci, Collin’s and Birx carte blanche to, more or less, set economic and social policy for the country and ‘force’ them to comply. Let him set health clinic treatment protocols and pursue vaccines and treatments.
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@Midnight1
You all have pretty much the same view of Dr.Fauci but yet none of you have answered why the POS didn't replace him.
How would he have done this? For one, he couldn’t directly fire him. He could have tried to get Collins or Azar to do it. They would have explained to him how complicated and unlikely that would be to do quickly. In fact, I would not be surprised if they did not have that discussion.
Secondly, Trump is on record trying to quash some of the rumors at the time by saying they had a good relationship, but that he did not agree with him on all things.
So, I am sure he realized or was told that was not the right time to put the country in a situation like that.
What he should have done was simply dismiss all of Fauci’s nonsense that was pervading the political spectrum at the time.
He did not need to allow Fauci, Collin’s and Birx carte blanche to, more or less, set economic and social policy for the country and ‘force’ them to comply. Let him set health clinic treatment protocols and pursue vaccines and treatments.
And further more, you're flailing and spreading lies.
1. While covid didn't "disappear", it did become endemic rather than being a pandemic. For all that people praise that vaccine, based on science, herd immunity probably did more to combat covid than anything. So he wasn't wrong.
2. Trump never suggested anyone inject bleach.
3. He provided increased unemployment benefits for those out of work. You can't have it both ways. Either you don't shut things down, as conservatives suggested, or you do abd cause unemployment.
4. Testing equipment was always available. Did you have a problem finding available testing? I live in one of the most underserved states in the country, medically. I tested, for free, without issue or inconvenience, whenever I needed to.
5. If Trump said China had everything under control, it's because Fauci told him. He told all of us that.
Did Trump funnel millions, if not billions of tax payer dollars into Wuhan lab whose research was based on weaponizing bat corona viruses? Did he? Fauci sure did. These are the people liberals praise as heroes. War mongers like Liz Cheney and treasonous snakes like Anthony Fauci. None of what I wrote is conspiracy theory. It's all fact.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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@Midnight1
And further more, you're flailing and spreading lies.
1. While covid didn't "disappear", it did become endemic rather than being a pandemic. For all that people praise that vaccine, based on science, herd immunity probably did more to combat covid than anything. So he wasn't wrong.
2. Trump never suggested anyone inject bleach.
3. He provided increased unemployment benefits for those out of work. You can't have it both ways. Either you don't shut things down, as conservatives suggested, or you do abd cause unemployment.
4. Testing equipment was always available. Did you have a problem finding available testing? I live in one of the most underserved states in the country, medically. I tested, for free, without issue or inconvenience, whenever I needed to.
5. If Trump said China had everything under control, it's because Fauci told him. He told all of us that.
Did Trump funnel millions, if not billions of tax payer dollars into Wuhan lab whose research was based on weaponizing bat corona viruses? Did he? Fauci sure did. These are the people liberals praise as heroes. War mongers like Liz Cheney and treasonous snakes like Anthony Fauci. None of what I wrote is conspiracy theory. It's all fact.
Thousands of fully vaccinated and boostered people died from Covid after it mutated to Delta and Omicron and Biden insisted you still were basically buttetproof if vaxed. I have the data from just Minnesota alone for 11 months and 1,989 fully vaxed died during just that period.
Funny how we never see what the full count really is? Of course Pfizer gave Biden campaign a million.
Maybe Trump will get the numbers published.
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Thousands of fully vaccinated and boostered people died from Covid after it mutated to Delta and Omicron and Biden insisted you still were basically buttetproof if vaxed. I have the data from just Minnesota alone for 11 months and 1,989 fully vaxed died during just that period.
Funny how we never see what the full count really is? Of course Pfizer gave Biden campaign a million.
If we are going down the Covid blame game worm hole again, you can't leave out Andrew assclown Cuomo. All the millions of ventilators needed but most who went on a ventilator perished soon after. Cuomo has his daily press briefing on tv like he was some superstar celebrity 'following the science' was a phrase said many times
Now the butt face buffoon is odds on favorite for NYC Gov. to replace Adams.
NYers can't look themselves in the mirror if you vote Cuomo into office again, he is the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man
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If we are going down the Covid blame game worm hole again, you can't leave out Andrew assclown Cuomo. All the millions of ventilators needed but most who went on a ventilator perished soon after. Cuomo has his daily press briefing on tv like he was some superstar celebrity 'following the science' was a phrase said many times
Now the butt face buffoon is odds on favorite for NYC Gov. to replace Adams.
NYers can't look themselves in the mirror if you vote Cuomo into office again, he is the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man
Back to pardons; Today, I am commuting the sentences of nearly 2,500 people convicted of non-violent drug offenses who are serving disproportionately long sentences compared to the sentences they would receive today under current law, policy, and practice," Biden said in a statement.
A 48-year-old Connecticut drug kingpin who killed a mother and her 8-year-old son so she wouldn't testify against his brother has received clemency from Biden. Adrian Peeler, a Bridgeport drug trafficker, killed a woman named Karen Clarke and her 8-year-old son just weeks before they were supposed to testify against his brother, who was accused of shooting Clarke's boyfriend in front of the child. The mother and son were ambushed as they returned home to their apartment in January 1999. Police found the boy with a bullet hole in the back of his head on the stairs and Clarke riddled with gunshot wounds.
Two Virginia men serving life prison sentences in connection with a drug case that left a Sussex County police officer dead in 1998 were also set free.
Ferrone Claiborne and Terence Richardson, known as the "Waverly Two," both admitted to playing a role in the death of Officer Allen Gibson but were later acquitted of murder at trial due to an apparent lack of evidence. But they were convicted of lesser charges and sentenced to life in prison anyway. Gibson, 25, stumbled upon a back alley drug deal in Waverly involving Richardson and Claiborne. According to authorities, the two attacked and disarmed him. He was later found with a gunshot wound to his stomach, right below his bulletproof vest.
Ain't talking flag poles and hockey sticks here, gun, to the back of the head of an 8 year old and his mother. A police officer apparently executed by drug dealers.
Now they walk the streets again!
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Back to pardons; Today, I am commuting the sentences of nearly 2,500 people convicted of non-violent drug offenses who are serving disproportionately long sentences compared to the sentences they would receive today under current law, policy, and practice," Biden said in a statement.
A 48-year-old Connecticut drug kingpin who killed a mother and her 8-year-old son so she wouldn't testify against his brother has received clemency from Biden. Adrian Peeler, a Bridgeport drug trafficker, killed a woman named Karen Clarke and her 8-year-old son just weeks before they were supposed to testify against his brother, who was accused of shooting Clarke's boyfriend in front of the child. The mother and son were ambushed as they returned home to their apartment in January 1999. Police found the boy with a bullet hole in the back of his head on the stairs and Clarke riddled with gunshot wounds.
Two Virginia men serving life prison sentences in connection with a drug case that left a Sussex County police officer dead in 1998 were also set free.
Ferrone Claiborne and Terence Richardson, known as the "Waverly Two," both admitted to playing a role in the death of Officer Allen Gibson but were later acquitted of murder at trial due to an apparent lack of evidence. But they were convicted of lesser charges and sentenced to life in prison anyway. Gibson, 25, stumbled upon a back alley drug deal in Waverly involving Richardson and Claiborne. According to authorities, the two attacked and disarmed him. He was later found with a gunshot wound to his stomach, right below his bulletproof vest.
Ain't talking flag poles and hockey sticks here, gun, to the back of the head of an 8 year old and his mother. A police officer apparently executed by drug dealers.
You all have pretty much the same view of Dr.Fauci but yet none of you have answered why the POS didn't replace him. All I've heard 20/20 hindsight, he created the problems & we didn't know what we didn't know. Did Fauci tell us that Covid would just disappear? Nobody said this. Did he tell us to inject bleach? Trump did not say this. Media makes shit up. Did Fauci disregard the warnings? China allowed their citizens to travel overseas but restricted travel in China. Did he cause the almost 20% unemployment rate that was a result of Covid? Without covid, the US doesn't have this UI. So it's not on Trump, it's on covid. Nothing Trump would have done would have stopped covid. Did he give away taxpayer money to any Tom, Dick & Harry that made a claim? Mr. Science sure did love tax payer money, didn't he?Last I checked, your rent, mortgage, CC and other bills were still due but you were told to stop working. Dems pushed heavy for this. Did he cause the lack of testing equipment? There was no lack of testing equipment. A ventilator did not save people. Do more research on how they work. Once you're on it, your body desperately relies on this machine. It's very difficult for someone to get off and return to normal. Did he slash the CDC & it's epidemic prevention activities? Did Fauci play down the serious nature of Covid? You can not cause mass hysteria to the general public. Did he tell us that China had everything under control? Nobody said China had everything under control. The leader of our country was MIA & history will show he failed miserably. History will show where covid came from and what/whom is responsible for the release. And now we are no longer members of the WHO along with Lichtenstein where global cooperation & shared knowledge takes place when health issues arrive. I imagine you think the WHO is worthless.
God forbid there is ever another pandemic in the next 4 years with the POS & RFK in charge.
You ok Mid?
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@Midnight1
You all have pretty much the same view of Dr.Fauci but yet none of you have answered why the POS didn't replace him. All I've heard 20/20 hindsight, he created the problems & we didn't know what we didn't know. Did Fauci tell us that Covid would just disappear? Nobody said this. Did he tell us to inject bleach? Trump did not say this. Media makes shit up. Did Fauci disregard the warnings? China allowed their citizens to travel overseas but restricted travel in China. Did he cause the almost 20% unemployment rate that was a result of Covid? Without covid, the US doesn't have this UI. So it's not on Trump, it's on covid. Nothing Trump would have done would have stopped covid. Did he give away taxpayer money to any Tom, Dick & Harry that made a claim? Mr. Science sure did love tax payer money, didn't he?Last I checked, your rent, mortgage, CC and other bills were still due but you were told to stop working. Dems pushed heavy for this. Did he cause the lack of testing equipment? There was no lack of testing equipment. A ventilator did not save people. Do more research on how they work. Once you're on it, your body desperately relies on this machine. It's very difficult for someone to get off and return to normal. Did he slash the CDC & it's epidemic prevention activities? Did Fauci play down the serious nature of Covid? You can not cause mass hysteria to the general public. Did he tell us that China had everything under control? Nobody said China had everything under control. The leader of our country was MIA & history will show he failed miserably. History will show where covid came from and what/whom is responsible for the release. And now we are no longer members of the WHO along with Lichtenstein where global cooperation & shared knowledge takes place when health issues arrive. I imagine you think the WHO is worthless.
God forbid there is ever another pandemic in the next 4 years with the POS & RFK in charge.
Capitol rioters Hemphill and Riddle refuse Trump pardons. They admit to breaking the law, need to pay price and being in a cult. In war on truth, Trump is trying to rewrite history. But the world knows what happened. Books cannot be unpublished and January 6 investigations report is likely to remain the official record in US history.
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Capitol rioters Hemphill and Riddle refuse Trump pardons. They admit to breaking the law, need to pay price and being in a cult. In war on truth, Trump is trying to rewrite history. But the world knows what happened. Books cannot be unpublished and January 6 investigations report is likely to remain the official record in US history.
@BigGame90 Fauci was the best we had to manage Covid. Name someone better then tell me why your boy didn't replace him.
No one is more qualified and respected than Fauci the leading infectious disease expert in the US. Trump couldn't fire him without cause. There are civil service protections for career federal employees that prevent their removal for political gain. Under Biden administration, Fauci helped to develop US vaccination program that prevented over one million covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Trump mismanaged pandemic but tried to deflect blame. Smear campaign continued in congress investigations which lead to nothing from justice department. Doctors condemn inflammatory book "the real Anthony Fauci" from anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy who promoted conspiracy theories and falsely accused Fauci of decades of abuse.
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@BigGame90 Fauci was the best we had to manage Covid. Name someone better then tell me why your boy didn't replace him.
No one is more qualified and respected than Fauci the leading infectious disease expert in the US. Trump couldn't fire him without cause. There are civil service protections for career federal employees that prevent their removal for political gain. Under Biden administration, Fauci helped to develop US vaccination program that prevented over one million covid deaths and millions of hospitalizations.
Trump mismanaged pandemic but tried to deflect blame. Smear campaign continued in congress investigations which lead to nothing from justice department. Doctors condemn inflammatory book "the real Anthony Fauci" from anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy who promoted conspiracy theories and falsely accused Fauci of decades of abuse.
Trump fast tracked the vaccine with Operation Warp Speed. Many critics stated, including Biden, no way could we have a vaccine by Nov 2020, but we did.
But then the Biden Admin mismanaged the vaccine believing it was a cure all to stop the spread of COVID. The vaccinated were given a free pass to go anywhere untested while science showed many vaccinated became infected, spread COVID, and even died from COVID.
Unlike human viruses like Polio, COVID easily mutated and spread through animals as well as humans. Although the CDC and Fauci stated as early as February of 2021 that mutations could "undo all with have gained" with Trump's vaccine, they both sat quiet as Delta virus slowly marched from India across Europe and easily infected the vaccinated, often causing death. Biden admin determined open borders were more important during a pandemic than the lives of American citizens and Delta marched right in. And while deadly Delta marched in Biden went on national tv telling all the vaccinated you will never get COVID. Many vaccinated died as a result.
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Trump fast tracked the vaccine with Operation Warp Speed. Many critics stated, including Biden, no way could we have a vaccine by Nov 2020, but we did.
But then the Biden Admin mismanaged the vaccine believing it was a cure all to stop the spread of COVID. The vaccinated were given a free pass to go anywhere untested while science showed many vaccinated became infected, spread COVID, and even died from COVID.
Unlike human viruses like Polio, COVID easily mutated and spread through animals as well as humans. Although the CDC and Fauci stated as early as February of 2021 that mutations could "undo all with have gained" with Trump's vaccine, they both sat quiet as Delta virus slowly marched from India across Europe and easily infected the vaccinated, often causing death. Biden admin determined open borders were more important during a pandemic than the lives of American citizens and Delta marched right in. And while deadly Delta marched in Biden went on national tv telling all the vaccinated you will never get COVID. Many vaccinated died as a result.
Many a book has been written on the brainwashing of political prisoners. The elderly and those dependant on substance abuse are the easiest to convince. Having already served their sentences obviously had an impact.
A 71 yr old woman given 60 days in jail for tresspass compared to the 2011 Wisconsin Capitol Building being occupied for days with millions of dollars if damage, injured officers, Sentors fleeing, and no jail time, no one shot.
Want a sharp contrast.
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Many a book has been written on the brainwashing of political prisoners. The elderly and those dependant on substance abuse are the easiest to convince. Having already served their sentences obviously had an impact.
A 71 yr old woman given 60 days in jail for tresspass compared to the 2011 Wisconsin Capitol Building being occupied for days with millions of dollars if damage, injured officers, Sentors fleeing, and no jail time, no one shot.
Did he tell us to inject bleach? Trump did not say this. Media makes shit up.
This is Trump contribution to the press briefing!
A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world,” Trump began, clearly thinking the question himself, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”……He did not help discussion and may have misled many!….This not a statement any President before or after would make!
Did he tell us to inject bleach? Trump did not say this. Media makes shit up.
This is Trump contribution to the press briefing!
A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world,” Trump began, clearly thinking the question himself, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”……He did not help discussion and may have misled many!….This not a statement any President before or after would make!
President Trump has been mocked relentlessly for suggesting that ultraviolet light could be brought “inside the body” to kill the coronavirus, but there is ongoing research to do just that.
For example, the pharmaceutical firm Aytu BioScience announced on April 20, four days before the Trump remarks, that it has signed an exclusive licensing deal with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The center has developed and is testing a UV-A “Healight” designed to be inserted via a catheter inside the trachea to kill pathogens, including the coronavirus.
Ultraviolet light treatments introduced into the tracheas of five critically ill COVID-19 patients appeared to be safe and associated with a reduction in the respiratory load of SARS-CoV-2—the virus responsible for COVID-19—in all but one patient, according to a study conducted by Cedars-Sinai.
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Ultrviolet light, a disinfectant......used in the body.
President Trump has been mocked relentlessly for suggesting that ultraviolet light could be brought “inside the body” to kill the coronavirus, but there is ongoing research to do just that.
For example, the pharmaceutical firm Aytu BioScience announced on April 20, four days before the Trump remarks, that it has signed an exclusive licensing deal with Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. The center has developed and is testing a UV-A “Healight” designed to be inserted via a catheter inside the trachea to kill pathogens, including the coronavirus.
Ultraviolet light treatments introduced into the tracheas of five critically ill COVID-19 patients appeared to be safe and associated with a reduction in the respiratory load of SARS-CoV-2—the virus responsible for COVID-19—in all but one patient, according to a study conducted by Cedars-Sinai.
A pardoned J6er, Matthew W. Huttle, 42, of Hobart, Indiana, was shot and killed in Jasper County during a traffic stop yesterday. This happened after an "altercation took place between the suspect and the officer, which resulted in the officer firing his weapon and fatally wounding the suspect."
Not at all surprising.
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A pardoned J6er, Matthew W. Huttle, 42, of Hobart, Indiana, was shot and killed in Jasper County during a traffic stop yesterday. This happened after an "altercation took place between the suspect and the officer, which resulted in the officer firing his weapon and fatally wounding the suspect."
Emily Hernandez of Missouri gained fame for holding up a broken sign bearing then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's name that was taken during the Jan 6 insurrection attempt. She turned herself in to federal authorities in 2022 after being identified as one of the rioters and was sentenced to 30 days in jail. Hernandez was among 1,500 pardoned by the POS last POS week.
But six days before Hernandez was scheduled to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building in that case, she was involved in a fatal crash.
Hernandez was driving the wrong way in the eastbound lanes of Interstate 44 in January 2022 when she crashed into an SUV. Victoria Wilson, 32, was killed in the wreck. Ryan Wilson, 36, was seriously hurt and still walks with a cane, the St. Louis Dispatch reported.
A Franklin County judge sentenced Hernandez to 10 years for Victoria Wilson's death and seven years for Ryan Wilson's injury.
And another...
Edward Kelley, a Jan. 6 defendant, says the POS' order to dismiss cases should also cover his conviction in Tennessee for conspiracy to murder the FBI agents who investigated him. Deplorables are learning from the POS how to twist the law in hopes their case gets dismissed. These a-holes think their recent pardon is a get out of jail forever card. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
Curious to see how DOJ responds to this one.
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Emily Hernandez of Missouri gained fame for holding up a broken sign bearing then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's name that was taken during the Jan 6 insurrection attempt. She turned herself in to federal authorities in 2022 after being identified as one of the rioters and was sentenced to 30 days in jail. Hernandez was among 1,500 pardoned by the POS last POS week.
But six days before Hernandez was scheduled to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge of entering and remaining in a restricted building in that case, she was involved in a fatal crash.
Hernandez was driving the wrong way in the eastbound lanes of Interstate 44 in January 2022 when she crashed into an SUV. Victoria Wilson, 32, was killed in the wreck. Ryan Wilson, 36, was seriously hurt and still walks with a cane, the St. Louis Dispatch reported.
A Franklin County judge sentenced Hernandez to 10 years for Victoria Wilson's death and seven years for Ryan Wilson's injury.
And another...
Edward Kelley, a Jan. 6 defendant, says the POS' order to dismiss cases should also cover his conviction in Tennessee for conspiracy to murder the FBI agents who investigated him. Deplorables are learning from the POS how to twist the law in hopes their case gets dismissed. These a-holes think their recent pardon is a get out of jail forever card. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
A Texas man released from prison under the POS’ broad brush sweeping pardons over the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol is wanted by authorities on a 2016 charge of soliciting a minor online.
Send his ass to Guantanamo as well!
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A Texas man released from prison under the POS’ broad brush sweeping pardons over the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol is wanted by authorities on a 2016 charge of soliciting a minor online.
understand some of your viewpoints but seriously? Really? Do you really think she meant to kill people in a car crash? Driving drunk or impaired is not the point you are making here, it is simply a Jan6th was arrested again. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
You are making solid points but this one falls short Mid
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understand some of your viewpoints but seriously? Really? Do you really think she meant to kill people in a car crash? Driving drunk or impaired is not the point you are making here, it is simply a Jan6th was arrested again. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
You are making solid points but this one falls short Mid
Deplorables are learning from the POS how to twist the law in hopes their case gets dismissed. These a-holes think their recent pardon is a get out of jail forever card. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
Dangerous for Trump to pardon January 6 rioters because it could encourage future violence or crime. Unlike Obama and Biden pardons of non-violent inmates chosen by justice department, most of Trump pardons serve some personal or political purpose.
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Deplorables are learning from the POS how to twist the law in hopes their case gets dismissed. These a-holes think their recent pardon is a get out of jail forever card. We're talking about conspiracy to commit murder against members of law enforcement here.
Dangerous for Trump to pardon January 6 rioters because it could encourage future violence or crime. Unlike Obama and Biden pardons of non-violent inmates chosen by justice department, most of Trump pardons serve some personal or political purpose.
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