Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:Partisan divisions in this poll are 28-26-40 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents. Thank goodness nobody is dumb enough to suggest this was a heavy dem bias
Jarrett says "Hold my beer"
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:Partisan divisions in this poll are 28-26-40 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents. Thank goodness nobody is dumb enough to suggest this was a heavy dem bias
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The latest poll also found that 58% of Americans believe Trump bears either a “great deal” or a “good amount” of responsibility for the events of Jan. 6 last year.
Among self-described independents, 62% think Trump should be charged and 61% think he bears a "great deal" or a "good amount" of responsibility. Partisan divisions in this poll are 28-26-40 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents. Thank goodness nobody is dumb enough to suggest this was a heavy dem bias
very significant ffrom the independents views
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The latest poll also found that 58% of Americans believe Trump bears either a “great deal” or a “good amount” of responsibility for the events of Jan. 6 last year.
Among self-described independents, 62% think Trump should be charged and 61% think he bears a "great deal" or a "good amount" of responsibility. Partisan divisions in this poll are 28-26-40 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents. Thank goodness nobody is dumb enough to suggest this was a heavy dem bias
Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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cut from cnn ::
Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
"Cheney's closing was stunning:they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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from mick mulvaney ::
"Cheney's closing was stunning:they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
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Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
rump would never admit his guilt
but i also believe biden would not sell out america by pardonning a criminal traitor to america
a pardon would only ensure that all the deplorable republican attempts to steal an election from the american voters would recur again and again and again and again in the future since there would b no real consequences
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
rump would never admit his guilt
but i also believe biden would not sell out america by pardonning a criminal traitor to america
a pardon would only ensure that all the deplorable republican attempts to steal an election from the american voters would recur again and again and again and again in the future since there would b no real consequences
cut from cnn :: Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
Mulvaney has a point. Credible testimony under oath from an insider republican. Davastating.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
cut from cnn :: Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
Mulvaney has a point. Credible testimony under oath from an insider republican. Davastating.
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: cut from cnn :: Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
Mulvaney has a point. Credible testimony under oath from an insider republican. Davastating.
mulvaney is spot on
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: cut from cnn :: Trump's former chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, predicts things could get very dark for Trump after the bombshell testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson and Trump's role in the January 6 insurrection.
Mulvaney has a point. Credible testimony under oath from an insider republican. Davastating.
"Cheney's closing was stunning:they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
Mulvaney in a strong position to know....
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
from mick mulvaney ::
"Cheney's closing was stunning:they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: from mick mulvaney :: "Cheney's closing was stunning: they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
Mulvaney in a strong position to know....
Very strong.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: from mick mulvaney :: "Cheney's closing was stunning: they have evidence of witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There is an old maxim: it's never the crime, it's ALWAYS the coverup. Things went very badly for Trump today. My guess is that it will only get worse from here,"
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
rump would never admit his guilt but i also believe biden would not sell out america by pardonning a criminal traitor to america a pardon would only ensure that all the deplorable republican attempts to steal an election from the american voters would recur again and again and again and again in the future since there would b no real consequences
That's a good point. One thing is for certain, Trump can't be trusted to do anything other than his own self-interests.
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Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:
Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Who thinks this ends with an agreement by Trump never to run again and a presidential pardon issued by Biden? The only trouble with the "pardon" part is Trump would have to admit guilt. And that probably will never happen.
rump would never admit his guilt but i also believe biden would not sell out america by pardonning a criminal traitor to america a pardon would only ensure that all the deplorable republican attempts to steal an election from the american voters would recur again and again and again and again in the future since there would b no real consequences
That's a good point. One thing is for certain, Trump can't be trusted to do anything other than his own self-interests.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know....
Very strong.
Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
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Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know....
Very strong.
Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
During an interview with CBS Friday, Mulvaney said that he trusts testimony that Meadows’s former top aide Cassidy Hutchinson gave to the House committee investigating the attack. Hutchinson described Meadows to lawmakers as disengaged.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
During an interview with CBS Friday, Mulvaney said that he trusts testimony that Meadows’s former top aide Cassidy Hutchinson gave to the House committee investigating the attack. Hutchinson described Meadows to lawmakers as disengaged.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded. During an interview with CBS Friday,
Mulvaney said that he trusts testimony that Meadows’s former top aide Cassidy Hutchinson gave to the House committee investigating the attack.
Hutchinson described Meadows to lawmakers as disengaged.
Mulvaney said he was texting with a friend who was in the West Wing on Jan. 6 as Hutchinson was testifying.
“I said, if I listen to Cassidy closely, it sounds like Mark was either completely incompetent at the job or having a nervous breakdown, and the person texted back it was a little bit of both,” Mulvaney said.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded. During an interview with CBS Friday,
Mulvaney said that he trusts testimony that Meadows’s former top aide Cassidy Hutchinson gave to the House committee investigating the attack.
Hutchinson described Meadows to lawmakers as disengaged.
Mulvaney said he was texting with a friend who was in the West Wing on Jan. 6 as Hutchinson was testifying.
“I said, if I listen to Cassidy closely, it sounds like Mark was either completely incompetent at the job or having a nervous breakdown, and the person texted back it was a little bit of both,” Mulvaney said.
Former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said his ex-boss has too much baggage to win another presidential election if he decides to run in 2024.
Former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said his ex-boss has too much baggage to win another presidential election if he decides to run in 2024.
Former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said his ex-boss has too much baggage to win another presidential election if he decides to run in 2024.
Mr. Mulvaney, who held a variety of roles in the Trump White House, said Mr. Trump’s chances to get support for a 2024 presidential bid are becoming tarnished by the revelations presented by the Jan. 6 committee investigating trump's 2021 Capitol insurrection.
Former President Donald Trump’s chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said his ex-boss has too much baggage to win another presidential election if he decides to run in 2024.
Mr. Mulvaney, who held a variety of roles in the Trump White House, said Mr. Trump’s chances to get support for a 2024 presidential bid are becoming tarnished by the revelations presented by the Jan. 6 committee investigating trump's 2021 Capitol insurrection.
Trump pressured Pence to join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals
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WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the i nsurrection at the Capitol that day.
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Trump pressured Pence to join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals
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WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the i nsurrection at the Capitol that day.
Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day.
In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day.
In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day. In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure.
The effort culminated in a “heated” call between the two the morning of Jan. 6 and in an insurrection later that day that put Pence, and American democracy, in mortal danger.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day. In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure.
The effort culminated in a “heated” call between the two the morning of Jan. 6 and in an insurrection later that day that put Pence, and American democracy, in mortal danger.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day. In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure. The effort culminated in a “heated” call between the two the morning of Jan. 6 and in an insurrection later that day that put Pence, and American democracy, in mortal danger.
“Donald Trump wanted Mike Pence to do something no other vice president has ever done: the former president wanted Pence to reject the votes and either declare Trump the [fruadulent] winner or send the votes back to the states to be counted again,” [where Republican legislatures had replaced the legal Biden votes with illegal trump votes].
“Mike Pence said no,” Thompson continued. “He resisted [trump's] pressure. He knew it was illegal. He knew it was WRONG.”
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Trump pressured Penceto join phony election plot despite warnings of illegality, Jan. 6 panel reveals NBC NEWS - WASHINGTON — Thrust into a pivotal role for democracy, former Vice President Mike Pence chose the Constitution over then-President Donald Trump on Jan. 6, 2021, according to the House committee investigating the insurrection at the Capitol that day. In evocative detail, the panel and its witnesses described how Trump applied blistering public and private pressure to try to stop Pence from certifying the 2020 election results. Even after Trump's own legal adviser admitted before him the plan wasn't legal, he still cranked up the pressure. The effort culminated in a “heated” call between the two the morning of Jan. 6 and in an insurrection later that day that put Pence, and American democracy, in mortal danger.
“Donald Trump wanted Mike Pence to do something no other vice president has ever done: the former president wanted Pence to reject the votes and either declare Trump the [fruadulent] winner or send the votes back to the states to be counted again,” [where Republican legislatures had replaced the legal Biden votes with illegal trump votes].
“Mike Pence said no,” Thompson continued. “He resisted [trump's] pressure. He knew it was illegal. He knew it was WRONG.”
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
not surprised he knew this went south in a hurry
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by baish2012: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Mulvaney in a strong position to know.... Very strong. Former acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said that a “friend” who was in the White House during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot told him that Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows was experiencing “a little bit of both” incompetence and a “nervous breakdown” as the event unfolded.
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