Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges. It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments.
I do dream about trump (but not nightly) I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated.
@MrWhatsItToYa
Yeah, funny, that.... Trump is in our heads every day becauseHE deliberately makes it unavoidable!! The narcissistic ratbasturd insists on news coverage EVERY FREAKN DAY one way or another!
Personally my dream differs slightly from yours.....like many, many, MANYnon-MAGAs I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation!
AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time, that is when I hope the righteous convictions come in, one after another....
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges. It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments.
I do dream about trump (but not nightly) I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated.
@MrWhatsItToYa
Yeah, funny, that.... Trump is in our heads every day becauseHE deliberately makes it unavoidable!! The narcissistic ratbasturd insists on news coverage EVERY FREAKN DAY one way or another!
Personally my dream differs slightly from yours.....like many, many, MANYnon-MAGAs I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation!
AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time, that is when I hope the righteous convictions come in, one after another....
It is usually only 100 or so historians etc. that are surveyed and not really hundreds. You can actually go to these websites and see who they are and see their previous writings and reasonings. There are many, many people that work in fields or jobs that are not really experts in them at all. There are obviously people of various walks and studies and careers on here that can have very educated and thoughts on why most of these surveys are silly and not well-reasoned out. There are many better surveys than this one. Look at who they are. Look at how so many of these change with the times and are not reflective but reactive at the time. Go back and see previous ‘adjustments’ and go look at economic ones versus historical ones etc.
Way more to this if you actually study it you will have a very, very good view of these things as opposed to these nonsense surveys.
Just because someone is claimed to be an ‘expert’ on something — you should not let them influence you, if you have a studied and unbiased and educated opinion on it.
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It is usually only 100 or so historians etc. that are surveyed and not really hundreds. You can actually go to these websites and see who they are and see their previous writings and reasonings. There are many, many people that work in fields or jobs that are not really experts in them at all. There are obviously people of various walks and studies and careers on here that can have very educated and thoughts on why most of these surveys are silly and not well-reasoned out. There are many better surveys than this one. Look at who they are. Look at how so many of these change with the times and are not reflective but reactive at the time. Go back and see previous ‘adjustments’ and go look at economic ones versus historical ones etc.
Way more to this if you actually study it you will have a very, very good view of these things as opposed to these nonsense surveys.
Just because someone is claimed to be an ‘expert’ on something — you should not let them influence you, if you have a studied and unbiased and educated opinion on it.
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges. It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly) I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated.
@MrWhatsItToYa
Yeah, funny, that.... Trump is in our heads every day becauseHE deliberately makes it unavoidable!! The narcissistic ratbasturd insists on news coverage EVERY FREAKN DAY one way or another!
Personally my dream differs slightly from yours.....like many, many, MANYnon-MAGAs I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation!
AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time, that is when I hope the righteous convictions come in, one after another....
trump of course is back in the news again today ....... naturally.....
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges. It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly) I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated.
@MrWhatsItToYa
Yeah, funny, that.... Trump is in our heads every day becauseHE deliberately makes it unavoidable!! The narcissistic ratbasturd insists on news coverage EVERY FREAKN DAY one way or another!
Personally my dream differs slightly from yours.....like many, many, MANYnon-MAGAs I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation!
AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time, that is when I hope the righteous convictions come in, one after another....
trump of course is back in the news again today ....... naturally.....
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.It is called putting things in context and using things in comparison and contrast to make a point.You know like you told me in the "The border invasion" thread post #168.Can other people use that method,or it's only you who get too? and the comparison between Obama and Biden has what to do what Trump exactly? Whatsthattoya?
It is making comparisons of those 3 presidents.You really couldn't figure that out on your own?
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Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.It is called putting things in context and using things in comparison and contrast to make a point.You know like you told me in the "The border invasion" thread post #168.Can other people use that method,or it's only you who get too? and the comparison between Obama and Biden has what to do what Trump exactly? Whatsthattoya?
It is making comparisons of those 3 presidents.You really couldn't figure that out on your own?
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.It is called putting things in context and using things in comparison and contrast to make a point.You know like you told me in the "The border invasion" thread post #168.Can other people use that method,or it's only you who get too? Sure. But how does that fit here? Biden is president and the economy is headed to a disaster? How does contrasting an ex-President’s legal issues fit when comparing the housing market or interest rates or folk’s credit card debt?
The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.It is called putting things in context and using things in comparison and contrast to make a point.You know like you told me in the "The border invasion" thread post #168.Can other people use that method,or it's only you who get too? Sure. But how does that fit here? Biden is president and the economy is headed to a disaster? How does contrasting an ex-President’s legal issues fit when comparing the housing market or interest rates or folk’s credit card debt?
The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be.
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. In this instance it is very apt to skip Trump. He is very far from being the worst. Comparing Biden to Obama is appropriate because both were horrible for the country and in the running for worst Presidents. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. In this instance it is very apt to skip Trump. He is very far from being the worst. Comparing Biden to Obama is appropriate because both were horrible for the country and in the running for worst Presidents. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be.
Alas, you are correct. It seems you guys on the Left never stick to the topic of the threads here -- you ALWAYS bring Trump up.
I was responding to the title of the thread and the previous posts about the latest economic data. Then pointing out that the mortgage and interest rates and inflation are still very high. THAT has to deal with the TOPIC of the thread and the previous posts.
YOU then brought Trump into it. I responded just to what you were mentioning.
But not a big deal to me if you guys go off topic; there is not really a rule mandating you stick to the topic.
My issue is you guys cannot multi-task and have a multi-faceted conversation; you simply bring Trump up.
As everyone knows I can be long-winded and detailed and have no problem tackling a conversation with multiple subjects and details in them.
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@MrWhatsItToYa
The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be.
Alas, you are correct. It seems you guys on the Left never stick to the topic of the threads here -- you ALWAYS bring Trump up.
I was responding to the title of the thread and the previous posts about the latest economic data. Then pointing out that the mortgage and interest rates and inflation are still very high. THAT has to deal with the TOPIC of the thread and the previous posts.
YOU then brought Trump into it. I responded just to what you were mentioning.
But not a big deal to me if you guys go off topic; there is not really a rule mandating you stick to the topic.
My issue is you guys cannot multi-task and have a multi-faceted conversation; you simply bring Trump up.
As everyone knows I can be long-winded and detailed and have no problem tackling a conversation with multiple subjects and details in them.
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.Now according to you committing crimes against this country doesn't have anything to do with the country?And now you are saying Obama was also bad for the economy.The economy was a lot worse before he took over office,remember George W completely tanking the economy,again you fail to bring that up while complaining about previous presidents. I am not trying to convince you to separate the issues, I simply am asking that you focus on the economic issues and the policies in the country. I realize that for most on the Left the personal traits of Trump matter far more than the good he did for the country and the economy. In other words, EXACTLY what crimes against the country did Trump commit IN ORDER to make the country and the economy better? Does it matter to you that Biden has personal issues AND the country AND the economy is WORSE? So which is worse — a bad person that makes a good economy OR a bad person that makes a bad economy? Again, I have not commented on the Trump legal issues until you insist. All I am concerned with is the economy, etc. So — IF you CAN find a person with fantastic personal traits AND can do the things for the economy that Trump did — then run that Unicorn for office. Maybe then even some of the Left would support him. Not concerned about discussing Bush unless you just insist to conflate as many issues as you can here. I only used the quote because it is funny and I think Biden is very rapidly heading to being the worst President ever — in that instance the comparison was apt, because I can make a very good argument that Obama was the worst. But if you want to compare Bush and Obama — you can do that if you like. I just do not have Bush in the running for worst President, the other two I do — mainly on the economy for Biden. That is why you can contrast him with Trump.
No where did I say trump committed crimes against this country that made the economy and country better.I said "Now according to you committing crimes against this country doesn't have anything to do with this country?"Which of course it has a lot to do with this country.Trying to overturn our election results to stay in power is the crime he committed against this country while president.The refusing to return classified documents happened after his term,but is still a crime against this country.Biden might have issues as you call them,but he isn't facing 91 charges is he,is he even facing 1 charge?No,not even 1 charge,so ya there is a difference in the ISSUES they are facing.Let's hear your "very good argument that Obama was the worst".Did Obama invade the wrong country and ignore all the signs about 9-11?
You say you are only concerned with the economy,but then rank the guy who tanked the economy (Bush) higher then the guy who saved the economy (Obama),ya you are really concerned only about the economy.
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: I saw this quote form an article about what a disaster this administration has been: “Obama the worst president in US history?” Biden: “Hold my ice cream”All of that as the guy who held the office between those 2 guys is facing 91 charges,but you always fail to mention any of that part of it. Not failing to mention it. I do not think that it had anything to do with the country and the economy while he was in office.Now according to you committing crimes against this country doesn't have anything to do with the country?And now you are saying Obama was also bad for the economy.The economy was a lot worse before he took over office,remember George W completely tanking the economy,again you fail to bring that up while complaining about previous presidents. I am not trying to convince you to separate the issues, I simply am asking that you focus on the economic issues and the policies in the country. I realize that for most on the Left the personal traits of Trump matter far more than the good he did for the country and the economy. In other words, EXACTLY what crimes against the country did Trump commit IN ORDER to make the country and the economy better? Does it matter to you that Biden has personal issues AND the country AND the economy is WORSE? So which is worse — a bad person that makes a good economy OR a bad person that makes a bad economy? Again, I have not commented on the Trump legal issues until you insist. All I am concerned with is the economy, etc. So — IF you CAN find a person with fantastic personal traits AND can do the things for the economy that Trump did — then run that Unicorn for office. Maybe then even some of the Left would support him. Not concerned about discussing Bush unless you just insist to conflate as many issues as you can here. I only used the quote because it is funny and I think Biden is very rapidly heading to being the worst President ever — in that instance the comparison was apt, because I can make a very good argument that Obama was the worst. But if you want to compare Bush and Obama — you can do that if you like. I just do not have Bush in the running for worst President, the other two I do — mainly on the economy for Biden. That is why you can contrast him with Trump.
No where did I say trump committed crimes against this country that made the economy and country better.I said "Now according to you committing crimes against this country doesn't have anything to do with this country?"Which of course it has a lot to do with this country.Trying to overturn our election results to stay in power is the crime he committed against this country while president.The refusing to return classified documents happened after his term,but is still a crime against this country.Biden might have issues as you call them,but he isn't facing 91 charges is he,is he even facing 1 charge?No,not even 1 charge,so ya there is a difference in the ISSUES they are facing.Let's hear your "very good argument that Obama was the worst".Did Obama invade the wrong country and ignore all the signs about 9-11?
You say you are only concerned with the economy,but then rank the guy who tanked the economy (Bush) higher then the guy who saved the economy (Obama),ya you are really concerned only about the economy.
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. In this instance it is very apt to skip Trump. He is very far from being the worst. Comparing Biden to Obama is appropriate because both were horrible for the country and in the running for worst Presidents. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
The only 1 who keeps Bush out of the worst president is trump.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. In this instance it is very apt to skip Trump. He is very far from being the worst. Comparing Biden to Obama is appropriate because both were horrible for the country and in the running for worst Presidents. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
The only 1 who keeps Bush out of the worst president is trump.
For the second time, 141 scholars include Trump, along with Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five.
2022 Survey of U.S. Presidents
11 Barack Obama <---- the black man hated by the MAGAs 12 13 14 Bill Clinton 15 16 17 18 Ronald Reagan 19 <------------------ Joseph Biden 20 G. H.W. Bush Sr. 21 22 23 24 Jimmy Carter 25 26 27 28 Richard Nixon 29 30 Gerald Ford 31 32 33 34 35 George W. Bush Jr. 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 donald trump
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For the second time, 141 scholars include Trump, along with Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five.
2022 Survey of U.S. Presidents
11 Barack Obama <---- the black man hated by the MAGAs 12 13 14 Bill Clinton 15 16 17 18 Ronald Reagan 19 <------------------ Joseph Biden 20 G. H.W. Bush Sr. 21 22 23 24 Jimmy Carter 25 26 27 28 Richard Nixon 29 30 Gerald Ford 31 32 33 34 35 George W. Bush Jr. 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 donald trump
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
Ya,it went a little more like this.trump isn't the 1 who turned the economy around.Bush crashed it,Obama turned that around and trump went along with that.I thought you republicans were all worried about the debt.Why are you not criticizing the president who in 4 years was accountable for 25% of this countries whole debt?
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic. Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa: @BigGame90 And what does either of those have to do with trump facing 91 charges,or Obama,or Biden's ice cream?I can't wait to hear this one. what does the original quote from Raiders have to do with Trump? Can't wait to hear this one. You dream about Trump nightly, huh? Always bringing Trump up when he's off topic.Cause when you are complaining about previous presidents,but then skip the one who is facing 91 charges.It looks like someone is comparing ice cream to indictments. I do dream about trump (but not nightly),I dream about the day he is convicted and the country gets to see the coward crying to the nation about how unfairly he has been treated. I guess you could include Trump if you want a comparison of how to turn the economy and country to the better.
Ya,it went a little more like this.trump isn't the 1 who turned the economy around.Bush crashed it,Obama turned that around and trump went along with that.I thought you republicans were all worried about the debt.Why are you not criticizing the president who in 4 years was accountable for 25% of this countries whole debt?
[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]@MrWhatsItToYa The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be. Alas, you are correct. It seems you guys on the Left never stick to the topic of the threads here -- you ALWAYS bring Trump up. I was responding to the title of the thread and the previous posts about the latest economic data. Then pointing out that the mortgage and interest rates and inflation are still very high. THAT has to deal with the TOPIC of the thread and the previous posts. YOU then brought Trump into it. I responded just to what you were mentioning. But not a big deal to me if you guys go off topic; there is not really a rule mandating you stick to the topic. My issue is you guys cannot multi-task and have a multi-faceted conversation; you simply bring Trump up. As everyone knows I can be long-winded and detailed and have no problem tackling a conversation with multiple subjects and details in them.[/Quote Yes I am correct,but then tell me how you say the left can never stay on the topic of the thread.As you are agreeing that YOUR comparing the housing market,or interest rates,or even folks credit card debt isn't related to the thread title of "Positive news for America from President Biden and the Democrats" Tell me how you discussing YOUR ranking of presidents has anything to do with the "topic of the thread",it doesn't in any way.So it sure seems like the right "never sticks to the topic of the threads" also.
You say you were responding to the title thread.But the title of the thread has nothing to do with mortgage and interest rates and inflation still being high.It has to do with "Positive news for America from President Biden and the Democrats",so who is 1 of the people who can never stick to the topic of the thread?You are,and you are doing it as you complain about people not sticking to the topic of the thread.
Ya to bad we couldn't all be as good as you at multi tasking.You say you want to have a multi-faceted conversation,but then complain when someone brings up somebody you don't wanna talk about.So basically you wanna have a multi-faceted conversation,as long as you decide what multi-facets are the ones being talked about.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Raiders22]@MrWhatsItToYa The thread isn't about ex-presidents legal issues or comparing the housing market or interest rates or even folk's credit card debt.It's about positive news for this country.What could be any more positive of news in this country.Then the guy who tried to overturn our election process,looks like he's finally going to be held accountable.I'm ecstatic,just as every American should be. Alas, you are correct. It seems you guys on the Left never stick to the topic of the threads here -- you ALWAYS bring Trump up. I was responding to the title of the thread and the previous posts about the latest economic data. Then pointing out that the mortgage and interest rates and inflation are still very high. THAT has to deal with the TOPIC of the thread and the previous posts. YOU then brought Trump into it. I responded just to what you were mentioning. But not a big deal to me if you guys go off topic; there is not really a rule mandating you stick to the topic. My issue is you guys cannot multi-task and have a multi-faceted conversation; you simply bring Trump up. As everyone knows I can be long-winded and detailed and have no problem tackling a conversation with multiple subjects and details in them.[/Quote Yes I am correct,but then tell me how you say the left can never stay on the topic of the thread.As you are agreeing that YOUR comparing the housing market,or interest rates,or even folks credit card debt isn't related to the thread title of "Positive news for America from President Biden and the Democrats" Tell me how you discussing YOUR ranking of presidents has anything to do with the "topic of the thread",it doesn't in any way.So it sure seems like the right "never sticks to the topic of the threads" also.
You say you were responding to the title thread.But the title of the thread has nothing to do with mortgage and interest rates and inflation still being high.It has to do with "Positive news for America from President Biden and the Democrats",so who is 1 of the people who can never stick to the topic of the thread?You are,and you are doing it as you complain about people not sticking to the topic of the thread.
Ya to bad we couldn't all be as good as you at multi tasking.You say you want to have a multi-faceted conversation,but then complain when someone brings up somebody you don't wanna talk about.So basically you wanna have a multi-faceted conversation,as long as you decide what multi-facets are the ones being talked about.
No where did I say trump committed crimes against this country that made the economy and country better.
Right. But that was my point. I simply do not care about Trump like you guys do. I am only concerned with the policies of Biden and the economy right now. You keep bringing up Trump and his legal issues and want me to care about them, I just don't. I am sorry that I cannot even give an informed opinion on them.
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@MrWhatsItToYa
No where did I say trump committed crimes against this country that made the economy and country better.
Right. But that was my point. I simply do not care about Trump like you guys do. I am only concerned with the policies of Biden and the economy right now. You keep bringing up Trump and his legal issues and want me to care about them, I just don't. I am sorry that I cannot even give an informed opinion on them.
You say you are only concerned with the economy,but then rank the guy who tanked the economy (Bush) higher then the guy who saved the economy (Obama),ya you are really concerned only about the economy.
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
No sir. That is not the case at all. I certainly use many more data points for my rankings. But what is making Biden the worst is his handling of the economy. But overall he is doing just as bad in nearly all of the other categories as well.
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@MrWhatsItToYa
You say you are only concerned with the economy,but then rank the guy who tanked the economy (Bush) higher then the guy who saved the economy (Obama),ya you are really concerned only about the economy.
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
No sir. That is not the case at all. I certainly use many more data points for my rankings. But what is making Biden the worst is his handling of the economy. But overall he is doing just as bad in nearly all of the other categories as well.
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
I can do both with all of them you listed.
Try to follow what happened. The thread is about Biden and good news. The subtopic was the economic numbers that came out today. The reply I made was to indicate that there are other numbers that are not so good and getting worse. I followed that up with the quote showing that Biden is fast becoming a very bad President. It is common knowledge that most on the Right rank Obama and Biden near the bottom -- some throw Carter in the mix. So, quite obviously the guy was making an anti-Biden joke about Biden and the mortgage and interest rates and inflation.
Then you come in here trying to compare Trump's legal issues, while, I guess, dismissing his good economy. Maybe you think his personal traits are all that matter and not how well he did.
That was when I mentioned Biden, who is still in office, has his own stuff going on.
So, my question is the same: DO YOU prefer a guy that has bad personal traits AND is GOOD for the economy OR a guy that has bad personal traits and is BAD for the economy?
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@MrWhatsItToYa
So basically what you are saying is you want to be able to badmouth Obama and Biden,but you are "not concerned" and don't want anybody else ever mentioning Bush and trump,makes sense when you really can't defend them.
I can do both with all of them you listed.
Try to follow what happened. The thread is about Biden and good news. The subtopic was the economic numbers that came out today. The reply I made was to indicate that there are other numbers that are not so good and getting worse. I followed that up with the quote showing that Biden is fast becoming a very bad President. It is common knowledge that most on the Right rank Obama and Biden near the bottom -- some throw Carter in the mix. So, quite obviously the guy was making an anti-Biden joke about Biden and the mortgage and interest rates and inflation.
Then you come in here trying to compare Trump's legal issues, while, I guess, dismissing his good economy. Maybe you think his personal traits are all that matter and not how well he did.
That was when I mentioned Biden, who is still in office, has his own stuff going on.
So, my question is the same: DO YOU prefer a guy that has bad personal traits AND is GOOD for the economy OR a guy that has bad personal traits and is BAD for the economy?
Ya,it went a little more like this.trump isn't the 1 who turned the economy around.Bush crashed it,Obama turned that around and trump went along with that.I thought you republicans were all worried about the debt.Why are you not criticizing the president who in 4 years was accountable for 25% of this countries whole debt?
Are you nuanced enough to get into this or are you simply being rhetorical?
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@MrWhatsItToYa
Ya,it went a little more like this.trump isn't the 1 who turned the economy around.Bush crashed it,Obama turned that around and trump went along with that.I thought you republicans were all worried about the debt.Why are you not criticizing the president who in 4 years was accountable for 25% of this countries whole debt?
Are you nuanced enough to get into this or are you simply being rhetorical?
11 Barack Obama <---- the black man hated by the MAGAs 12 13 14 Bill Clinton 15 16 17 18 Ronald Reagan 19 <------------------ Joseph Biden 20 G. H.W. Bush Sr. 21 22 23 24 Jimmy Carter 25 26 27 28 Richard Nixon 29 30 Gerald Ford 31 32 33 34 35 George W. Bush Jr. 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 donald trump
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2022 Survey of U.S. Presidents
11 Barack Obama <---- the black man hated by the MAGAs 12 13 14 Bill Clinton 15 16 17 18 Ronald Reagan 19 <------------------ Joseph Biden 20 G. H.W. Bush Sr. 21 22 23 24 Jimmy Carter 25 26 27 28 Richard Nixon 29 30 Gerald Ford 31 32 33 34 35 George W. Bush Jr. 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 donald trump
I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation! AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time,.
As in 2020, obvious no brainer to vote against one of the worst presidents in US history. Logically, moderate voters should favor Biden over Trump. At sportbooks, democrats are still favored over republicans in 2024 election. University of BC study found that gamblers tend to be better at predicting election outcomes than public opinion polls. Especially in the final weeks before election. Risking money on bet, gamblers have extra incentive to be right while poll respondents might not really care.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
I truly hope he is on the ballot next year! Once again (like 2020) I will be throwing heavy bets against him winning as I am eyeing a new electric car plus a 4 week Euro vacation! AFTER he loses the popular vote for the 3rd consecutive time,.
As in 2020, obvious no brainer to vote against one of the worst presidents in US history. Logically, moderate voters should favor Biden over Trump. At sportbooks, democrats are still favored over republicans in 2024 election. University of BC study found that gamblers tend to be better at predicting election outcomes than public opinion polls. Especially in the final weeks before election. Risking money on bet, gamblers have extra incentive to be right while poll respondents might not really care.
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