Did. Idea turn over the documents sitting wide open in his garage??? No the fbi found them sitting right in the open. Biden knew they were there. Please with this Biden turned them over.
If I remember correctly the FBI found more in his library. (Your right, garage too)
Biden lied tonight saying documents were secure unlike Mar-Largo. From the the SC report;
"There is evidence that, after his vice presidency, Mr. Biden willfully retained marked classified documents about Afghanistan and unmarked classified handwritten notes in his notebooks, both of which he stored in unsecured places in his home. He had no legal authority to do so, and his retention of these materials, and disclosure of classified information from his notebooks to his ghostwriter, risked serious damage to America's national security,"
Goodby Joe, bring in Gavin Newsome.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax:
Did. Idea turn over the documents sitting wide open in his garage??? No the fbi found them sitting right in the open. Biden knew they were there. Please with this Biden turned them over.
If I remember correctly the FBI found more in his library. (Your right, garage too)
Biden lied tonight saying documents were secure unlike Mar-Largo. From the the SC report;
"There is evidence that, after his vice presidency, Mr. Biden willfully retained marked classified documents about Afghanistan and unmarked classified handwritten notes in his notebooks, both of which he stored in unsecured places in his home. He had no legal authority to do so, and his retention of these materials, and disclosure of classified information from his notebooks to his ghostwriter, risked serious damage to America's national security,"
Did. Idea turn over the documents sitting wide open in his garage??? No the fbi found them sitting right in the open. Biden knew they were there. Please with this Biden turned them over.
Your right! The FBI found the garage documents and some in the library after Biden's lawyers said they turned them ALL in.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kadejax:
Did. Idea turn over the documents sitting wide open in his garage??? No the fbi found them sitting right in the open. Biden knew they were there. Please with this Biden turned them over.
Your right! The FBI found the garage documents and some in the library after Biden's lawyers said they turned them ALL in.
So Biden gets a pass because "he's an old man with a failing memory"........& this fuckin guy is potus?
IMO, the truth really is presidents have, as Biden stated in this report, done the exact same thing. They all have taken documents labeled classified. Yet Biden wasn't a president.
But with Trump they went after him. They set a new precedent. And look what happened, someone at that Penn Center saw those Biden classified docs, to the point they couldn't hide it, otherwise they would have.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
So Biden gets a pass because "he's an old man with a failing memory"........& this fuckin guy is potus?
IMO, the truth really is presidents have, as Biden stated in this report, done the exact same thing. They all have taken documents labeled classified. Yet Biden wasn't a president.
But with Trump they went after him. They set a new precedent. And look what happened, someone at that Penn Center saw those Biden classified docs, to the point they couldn't hide it, otherwise they would have.
"We have also considered that , at trial , Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury , as he did during our interview of him , as a sympathetic , well-meaning , elderly man with a poor memory."
invoke the 25th amendment now !
Let that Sink in . Afuera ! Elon and Vivek / DOGE ..Afuera !
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"We have also considered that , at trial , Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury , as he did during our interview of him , as a sympathetic , well-meaning , elderly man with a poor memory."
The SC's comment does nothing but further enrage people on both sides of the aisle & frankly it's a personal view/comment that does not belong in a report of this nature.
One thing we can all agree upon is that November can't come soon enough.
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@Barbarossa
The SC's comment does nothing but further enrage people on both sides of the aisle & frankly it's a personal view/comment that does not belong in a report of this nature.
One thing we can all agree upon is that November can't come soon enough.
Hey guys take it easy with the Biden threads ok . You guys railing against him and complaining in all of these threads does nothing but further show that you are biased and partisan . We don’t need anymore of these kinds of threads . You could have easily put these thoughts into any one of the anti-Biden or anti-Democrat threads that are already littering this already too difficult to moderate forum . Do we really need any more of this kind of content in here ? That is very partisan and biased and that lets you only showcase your side of the narrative ? You don’t see the DNC members writing inordinate amounts of Trump bashing threads do you ? Stop with the partisan provoking and attempt to unify and not divide as you all tend to do because it is your side that is always looking to antagonize and attack and frankly you are destroying the true meaning of what a discussion forum is all about .
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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Hey guys take it easy with the Biden threads ok . You guys railing against him and complaining in all of these threads does nothing but further show that you are biased and partisan . We don’t need anymore of these kinds of threads . You could have easily put these thoughts into any one of the anti-Biden or anti-Democrat threads that are already littering this already too difficult to moderate forum . Do we really need any more of this kind of content in here ? That is very partisan and biased and that lets you only showcase your side of the narrative ? You don’t see the DNC members writing inordinate amounts of Trump bashing threads do you ? Stop with the partisan provoking and attempt to unify and not divide as you all tend to do because it is your side that is always looking to antagonize and attack and frankly you are destroying the true meaning of what a discussion forum is all about .
Hey guys take it easy with the Biden threads ok . You guys railing against him and complaining in all of these threads does nothing but further show that you are biased and partisan . We don’t need anymore of these kinds of threads . You could have easily put these thoughts into any one of the anti-Biden or anti-Democrat threads that are already littering this already too difficult to moderate forum . Do we really need any more of this kind of content in here ? That is very partisan and biased and lets you only showcase your side of the narrative ? You don’t see the DNC members writing inordinate amounts of Trump bashing threads do you ? Stop with the partisan provoking and attempt to unify and not divide as you all tend to do because it is your side that is always looking to antagonize and attack and frankly you are destroying the true meaning of what a discussion forum is all about .
I hope this a joke and sarcasm
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Quote Originally Posted by spockgato:
Hey guys take it easy with the Biden threads ok . You guys railing against him and complaining in all of these threads does nothing but further show that you are biased and partisan . We don’t need anymore of these kinds of threads . You could have easily put these thoughts into any one of the anti-Biden or anti-Democrat threads that are already littering this already too difficult to moderate forum . Do we really need any more of this kind of content in here ? That is very partisan and biased and lets you only showcase your side of the narrative ? You don’t see the DNC members writing inordinate amounts of Trump bashing threads do you ? Stop with the partisan provoking and attempt to unify and not divide as you all tend to do because it is your side that is always looking to antagonize and attack and frankly you are destroying the true meaning of what a discussion forum is all about .
@Barbarossa The SC's comment does nothing but further enrage people on both sides of the aisle & frankly it's a personal view/comment that does not belong in a report of this nature. One thing we can all agree upon is that November can't come soon enough.
there is no other way that they want him out now , after today. they set him up , he did not have to address the country tonight , heck he bombed other nations without
addressing anyone. They pushed him out to fail , just wait for it. "The Mexican President must open the borders to Gaza"
Let that Sink in . Afuera ! Elon and Vivek / DOGE ..Afuera !
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@Barbarossa The SC's comment does nothing but further enrage people on both sides of the aisle & frankly it's a personal view/comment that does not belong in a report of this nature. One thing we can all agree upon is that November can't come soon enough.
there is no other way that they want him out now , after today. they set him up , he did not have to address the country tonight , heck he bombed other nations without
addressing anyone. They pushed him out to fail , just wait for it. "The Mexican President must open the borders to Gaza"
He cooperated with authorities, he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them. There was no attempt at a coverup or hiding anything. They were given back when asked. That’s why he’s not charged,l.
Trump was not charged for simply having documents he shouldn’t. He was charged because he wouldn’t return them. He moved them when investigators arrived. He had a lawyer falsely claim that all documents were returned when they weren’t. He conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Not a single charge involves simple possession of the documents, but rather keeping them, hiding them, covering it all up.
For an easier analogy just for you Uniman Let’s say two people each checked out a library book and let the book they borrowed become overdue.
Let’s say Joey was cleaning his room, saw that he had a book that he forgot about, took it to the library, and turned it in with an apology. They charge him a small overdue fee and that’s it.
But Don doesn’t do that. The library contacts him and he says he turned it in. He doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He’s then caught with the book, which he insists is his, ignore the stamp on it with the library logo, he doodled that as a joke. The library would treat him differently and might ban him from ever checking out another book.
The library didn’t take pity on Joe for being dumb. He cooperated and make it clear that it was a mistake, one he voluntarily tried to fix. He’s trustworthy. Don is not someone the library can trust and they rip up his card…..Michael Pence had documents also he cooperated…For all we know documents may be burning in back yards in all 50 states with today news. Hundreds of elected and appointed personnel handle this type of material everyday….Hell even Jard Kushner eventually received clearance!……And I can’t stop thing about that 2 Billion dollars the Saudi’s pay him 25 million a year to so call manage for them !
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@UNIMAN
Your version is not correct!
He cooperated with authorities, he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them. There was no attempt at a coverup or hiding anything. They were given back when asked. That’s why he’s not charged,l.
Trump was not charged for simply having documents he shouldn’t. He was charged because he wouldn’t return them. He moved them when investigators arrived. He had a lawyer falsely claim that all documents were returned when they weren’t. He conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Not a single charge involves simple possession of the documents, but rather keeping them, hiding them, covering it all up.
For an easier analogy just for you Uniman Let’s say two people each checked out a library book and let the book they borrowed become overdue.
Let’s say Joey was cleaning his room, saw that he had a book that he forgot about, took it to the library, and turned it in with an apology. They charge him a small overdue fee and that’s it.
But Don doesn’t do that. The library contacts him and he says he turned it in. He doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He’s then caught with the book, which he insists is his, ignore the stamp on it with the library logo, he doodled that as a joke. The library would treat him differently and might ban him from ever checking out another book.
The library didn’t take pity on Joe for being dumb. He cooperated and make it clear that it was a mistake, one he voluntarily tried to fix. He’s trustworthy. Don is not someone the library can trust and they rip up his card…..Michael Pence had documents also he cooperated…For all we know documents may be burning in back yards in all 50 states with today news. Hundreds of elected and appointed personnel handle this type of material everyday….Hell even Jard Kushner eventually received clearance!……And I can’t stop thing about that 2 Billion dollars the Saudi’s pay him 25 million a year to so call manage for them !
the occupant of the WHITE HOUSE was deemed mentally incapacitated by a special Council , and the Supreme Court laughed the Commies out of the Court room
and then Biden's catastrophic emergency presser ...
today was a monstrous disaster for the Dem / Biden machine...
Let that Sink in . Afuera ! Elon and Vivek / DOGE ..Afuera !
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what a day ..
the occupant of the WHITE HOUSE was deemed mentally incapacitated by a special Council , and the Supreme Court laughed the Commies out of the Court room
and then Biden's catastrophic emergency presser ...
today was a monstrous disaster for the Dem / Biden machine...
What you're forgetting is that Biden wasn't supposed to have them in the first place. He illegally removed docs from a SCIF to several different unsecured locations. That in itself is a crime.
Letting him off the hook because he's demented isn't a good excuse. He is demented, as the SC noted, & should be removed from office, pronto. This isn't funny anymore.
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@joe pockets
What you're forgetting is that Biden wasn't supposed to have them in the first place. He illegally removed docs from a SCIF to several different unsecured locations. That in itself is a crime.
Letting him off the hook because he's demented isn't a good excuse. He is demented, as the SC noted, & should be removed from office, pronto. This isn't funny anymore.
@UNIMAN I'm talkin about why the special counsel dismissed any charges against him. That was part of his statement of record.
Yeah, that was a strange copout. A special counsel's job should be gather all the evidence, determine if a crime was committed, and if yes what charges should be brought.
Not be whether the criminal is popular, unpopular, a nice old man, or is mentally fit today or not. He was obviously mentally fit when took military secrets and shared them with others. He copied classified secrets into a notebook and then claimed it was his personal property.
So I guess willfully retaining classified documents and sharing secrets that could damage the country is not a crime when your now a nice, forgetful old man.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
@UNIMAN I'm talkin about why the special counsel dismissed any charges against him. That was part of his statement of record.
Yeah, that was a strange copout. A special counsel's job should be gather all the evidence, determine if a crime was committed, and if yes what charges should be brought.
Not be whether the criminal is popular, unpopular, a nice old man, or is mentally fit today or not. He was obviously mentally fit when took military secrets and shared them with others. He copied classified secrets into a notebook and then claimed it was his personal property.
So I guess willfully retaining classified documents and sharing secrets that could damage the country is not a crime when your now a nice, forgetful old man.
Biden is 81 and had two brain surgeries years ago (1988) on aneurysms. It was the side of his brain that controls speaking. It has caught up to him with age. Add to that he was lifelong politician who rarely got it right to begin with.
Reading between the lines I suspect Biden, with advice from his lawyers, played stupid to Hur when interviewed. Certainly there were more questions than when did your son die and when were you VP. Questions like, when did you take this document, who did you share it with and why? Obviously Biden's responses were, golly gee I really want to help but I just can't remember Mr. Hur. And this probably was the theme of the interview, just can't remember. Add to that audio tapes that were destroyed. Too bad the FBI didn't step in and secure all evidence like they should have.
So Hur is left with two choices;
#1. Biden is uncooperative in the investigation and is hiding facts/perjuring himself, or......
#2. Biden is a nice old man who tried to cooperate but cannot remember even the most basic facts.
I believe #1 may be closer to the truth.
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This is what I think Mugg.
Biden is 81 and had two brain surgeries years ago (1988) on aneurysms. It was the side of his brain that controls speaking. It has caught up to him with age. Add to that he was lifelong politician who rarely got it right to begin with.
Reading between the lines I suspect Biden, with advice from his lawyers, played stupid to Hur when interviewed. Certainly there were more questions than when did your son die and when were you VP. Questions like, when did you take this document, who did you share it with and why? Obviously Biden's responses were, golly gee I really want to help but I just can't remember Mr. Hur. And this probably was the theme of the interview, just can't remember. Add to that audio tapes that were destroyed. Too bad the FBI didn't step in and secure all evidence like they should have.
So Hur is left with two choices;
#1. Biden is uncooperative in the investigation and is hiding facts/perjuring himself, or......
#2. Biden is a nice old man who tried to cooperate but cannot remember even the most basic facts.
The perfect excuse...they play the race card.. now it's the pity card... sick old man.. not his fault on all the awful decisions... oops our bad... sorry... yet damage is already done.
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The perfect excuse...they play the race card.. now it's the pity card... sick old man.. not his fault on all the awful decisions... oops our bad... sorry... yet damage is already done.
My bet still stands for anyone dumb enough to take it.
what bet is this ?? I've been talking DNC replacements for past year going back to Newsome at 20-1.
are you saying you think Biden will be the name on the 2024 vs. Trump ?? If that happens then Biden will still win ??
I'm not on the hook for any 2024 Trump tickets but I don't think Biden will be the one who he loses to.... the stage has already been set, its just a matter of when.
Thank you America
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@Midnight1
My bet still stands for anyone dumb enough to take it.
what bet is this ?? I've been talking DNC replacements for past year going back to Newsome at 20-1.
are you saying you think Biden will be the name on the 2024 vs. Trump ?? If that happens then Biden will still win ??
I'm not on the hook for any 2024 Trump tickets but I don't think Biden will be the one who he loses to.... the stage has already been set, its just a matter of when.
So Joe can’t use the Republican witch hunt line on the partisan hatchet job that the DOJ appointed special counsel did on him ? The streets after MAGA mentality “ One Way” ! Imagine that the the Joe Biden DOJ comes out that you right wing propagandist chose to like ! I didn’t know it was possible!
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@kcblitzkrieg
So Joe can’t use the Republican witch hunt line on the partisan hatchet job that the DOJ appointed special counsel did on him ? The streets after MAGA mentality “ One Way” ! Imagine that the the Joe Biden DOJ comes out that you right wing propagandist chose to like ! I didn’t know it was possible!
So Joe can’t use the Republican witch hunt line on the partisan hatchet job that the DOJ appointed special counsel did on him ? The streets after MAGA mentality “ One Way” ! Imagine that the the Joe Biden DOJ comes out that you right wing propagandist chose to like ! I didn’t know it was possible!
I don't understand anything in this post as it relates to me. Sorry, you must have me confused with someone else. These terms such as; "MAGA", "Republican witch hunt", "partisan hatchet job", "right wing propaganda", do not apply to myself.
If I am mistaken, and there was a previous post in which you are replying to me with regards to, please link and I will respond accordingly.
Thank you America
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@joe pockets
So Joe can’t use the Republican witch hunt line on the partisan hatchet job that the DOJ appointed special counsel did on him ? The streets after MAGA mentality “ One Way” ! Imagine that the the Joe Biden DOJ comes out that you right wing propagandist chose to like ! I didn’t know it was possible!
I don't understand anything in this post as it relates to me. Sorry, you must have me confused with someone else. These terms such as; "MAGA", "Republican witch hunt", "partisan hatchet job", "right wing propaganda", do not apply to myself.
If I am mistaken, and there was a previous post in which you are replying to me with regards to, please link and I will respond accordingly.
@UNIMAN Your version is not correct! He cooperated with authorities, he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them. There was no attempt at a coverup or hiding anything. They were given back when asked. That’s why he’s not charged,l. Trump was not charged for simply having documents he shouldn’t. He was charged because he wouldn’t return them. He moved them when investigators arrived. He had a lawyer falsely claim that all documents were returned when they weren’t. He conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Not a single charge involves simple possession of the documents, but rather keeping them, hiding them, covering it all up. For an easier analogy just for you Uniman Let’s say two people each checked out a library book and let the book they borrowed become overdue. Let’s say Joey was cleaning his room, saw that he had a book that he forgot about, took it to the library, and turned it in with an apology. They charge him a small overdue fee and that’s it. But Don doesn’t do that. The library contacts him and he says he turned it in. He doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He’s then caught with the book, which he insists is his, ignore the stamp on it with the library logo, he doodled that as a joke. The library would treat him differently and might ban him from ever checking out another book. The library didn’t take pity on Joe for being dumb. He cooperated and make it clear that it was a mistake, one he voluntarily tried to fix. He’s trustworthy. Don is not someone the library can trust and they rip up his card…..Michael Pence had documents also he cooperated…For all we know documents may be burning in back yards in all 50 states with today news. Hundreds of elected and appointed personnel handle this type of material everyday….Hell even Jard Kushner eventually received clearance!……And I can’t stop thing about that 2 Billion dollars the Saudi’s pay him 25 million a year to so call manage for them !
he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them---- FALSE Biden's two lawyers released a statement in January that THEY discovered the classified documents at the Penn Centercon Nov 2nd while moving files. (Why would lawyers be paid to move files?)
From House Oversight Committee; President Biden’s timeline was incomplete and misleading. It omitted months of communications, planning, and coordinating among multiple White House officials, Ms. [Kathy] Chung, Penn Biden Center employees, and President Biden’s personal attorneys to retrieve the boxes containing classified materials. The timeline also omitted multiple visits from at least five White House employees, including Dana Remus, Anthony Bernal, Ashley Williams, Annie Tomasini, and an unknown staffer. There is no reasonable explanation as to why this many White House employees and lawyers were so concerned with retrieving boxes they believed only contained personal documents and materials,”
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
@UNIMAN Your version is not correct! He cooperated with authorities, he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them. There was no attempt at a coverup or hiding anything. They were given back when asked. That’s why he’s not charged,l. Trump was not charged for simply having documents he shouldn’t. He was charged because he wouldn’t return them. He moved them when investigators arrived. He had a lawyer falsely claim that all documents were returned when they weren’t. He conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Not a single charge involves simple possession of the documents, but rather keeping them, hiding them, covering it all up. For an easier analogy just for you Uniman Let’s say two people each checked out a library book and let the book they borrowed become overdue. Let’s say Joey was cleaning his room, saw that he had a book that he forgot about, took it to the library, and turned it in with an apology. They charge him a small overdue fee and that’s it. But Don doesn’t do that. The library contacts him and he says he turned it in. He doesn’t know what they’re talking about. He’s then caught with the book, which he insists is his, ignore the stamp on it with the library logo, he doodled that as a joke. The library would treat him differently and might ban him from ever checking out another book. The library didn’t take pity on Joe for being dumb. He cooperated and make it clear that it was a mistake, one he voluntarily tried to fix. He’s trustworthy. Don is not someone the library can trust and they rip up his card…..Michael Pence had documents also he cooperated…For all we know documents may be burning in back yards in all 50 states with today news. Hundreds of elected and appointed personnel handle this type of material everyday….Hell even Jard Kushner eventually received clearance!……And I can’t stop thing about that 2 Billion dollars the Saudi’s pay him 25 million a year to so call manage for them !
he was the one who contacted them when he discovered them---- FALSE Biden's two lawyers released a statement in January that THEY discovered the classified documents at the Penn Centercon Nov 2nd while moving files. (Why would lawyers be paid to move files?)
From House Oversight Committee; President Biden’s timeline was incomplete and misleading. It omitted months of communications, planning, and coordinating among multiple White House officials, Ms. [Kathy] Chung, Penn Biden Center employees, and President Biden’s personal attorneys to retrieve the boxes containing classified materials. The timeline also omitted multiple visits from at least five White House employees, including Dana Remus, Anthony Bernal, Ashley Williams, Annie Tomasini, and an unknown staffer. There is no reasonable explanation as to why this many White House employees and lawyers were so concerned with retrieving boxes they believed only contained personal documents and materials,”
He (Trump) conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Can you say liar, liar, pants on fire? I can!
A staffer is reported to have testified that ANOTHER staffer said Trump told him/her to delete security footage. NO SECURITY FOOTAGE AT MAR-A-LAGO was deleted.
That is called hearsay.
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He (Trump) conspired to conceal them, even had footage on his security tapes destroyed. Can you say liar, liar, pants on fire? I can!
A staffer is reported to have testified that ANOTHER staffer said Trump told him/her to delete security footage. NO SECURITY FOOTAGE AT MAR-A-LAGO was deleted.
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has dementia ..
I didn’t know it was possible!
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