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    the whole problem is knowingly spreading false info to vulnerable people

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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2021 - 10:12 PM ET #326

    Quote Originally Posted by baish2012:

     Quote Originally Posted by "the 9/11 Denier"  I_Need_A_Detox:
    Why are there more American deaths in 2021 than 2020 even though 200,000,000 Americans are vaccinated?

     

    These reasons explain why, beginning with your illogical comparison:

    First, the country has been FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure (coast-to-coast, and 99% of all counties) for each month of 2021. That's 11.4 months. More infection means more deaths.
    On the last day of February, 2020, Trump declared we only had 15 infections. The country was not FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure until late June 2020.
    A fair comparison must compare the similar conditions: full saturation of covid exposure permeating every corner of the nation. So 11.4 months of full covid saturation across the country obviously means many more deaths than just 6 months of full covid saturation in 2020. Huge difference!  This accounts for most of it.

     

     

    That's the key point.   Any intelligent, rational person can understand that.

     

     

     

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     Quote Originally Posted by "the 9/11 Denier"  I_Need_A_Detox:
    Why are there more American deaths in 2021 than 2020 even though 200,000,000 Americans are vaccinated?

     

    These reasons explain why, beginning with your illogical comparison:

    First, the country has been FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure (coast-to-coast, and 99% of all counties) for each month of 2021. That's 11.4 months. More infection means more deaths.
    On the last day of February, 2020, Trump declared we only had 15 infections. The country was not FULLY SATURATED with covid exposure until late June 2020.
    A fair comparison must compare the similar conditions: full saturation of covid exposure permeating every corner of the nation. So 11.4 months of full covid saturation across the country obviously means many more deaths than just 6 months of full covid saturation in 2020. Huge difference!  This accounts for most of it.

     

     

    That's the key point.   Any intelligent, rational person can understand that.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2021 - 5:10 PM ET #327

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Dumbass trump-worshipper,
    Sen. Ron Johnson *FALSELY* Claims
    Mouthwash 'Has Been Proven To Kill The Coronavirus'

     

    It hasn't, but the Wisconsin Republican is still spitting out COVID-19 conspiracy theories.

    an_light The total idiot said this:
            “By the way, standard gargle, mouthwash, 
             has been proven to kill the coronavirus.

    Johnson has a long history of spreading COVID-19 conspiracy theories
    and anti-vaccine misinformation.
    He has promoted the use of unproven and potentially dangerous
    treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, and he’s
    cast doubt on the efficacy and motive behind the vaccines ?
    which have been proven safe and effective to prevent the spread
    of coronavirus.

    After a clip from the town hall was circulated online, the senator
    retweeted it, citing a French study to support his FALSE claim.

    But that study did NOT find that "standard gargle, mouthwash"
    kills the coronavirus! Instead, researchers concluded that a very
    specific antiviral-mouthwash known as CDCM had some effect
    in reducing the viral load in saliva of participants, all of whom
    had asymptomatic to mild COVID-19 cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     

     

    Dumbass trump-worshipper,
    Sen. Ron Johnson *FALSELY* Claims
    Mouthwash 'Has Been Proven To Kill The Coronavirus'

     

    It hasn't, but the Wisconsin Republican is still spitting out COVID-19 conspiracy theories.

    an_light The total idiot said this:
            “By the way, standard gargle, mouthwash, 
             has been proven to kill the coronavirus.

    Johnson has a long history of spreading COVID-19 conspiracy theories
    and anti-vaccine misinformation.
    He has promoted the use of unproven and potentially dangerous
    treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, and he’s
    cast doubt on the efficacy and motive behind the vaccines ?
    which have been proven safe and effective to prevent the spread
    of coronavirus.

    After a clip from the town hall was circulated online, the senator
    retweeted it, citing a French study to support his FALSE claim.

    But that study did NOT find that "standard gargle, mouthwash"
    kills the coronavirus! Instead, researchers concluded that a very
    specific antiviral-mouthwash known as CDCM had some effect
    in reducing the viral load in saliva of participants, all of whom
    had asymptomatic to mild COVID-19 cases.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 14, 2021 - 11:41 PM ET #328

    FACT CHECK; CAN MOUTHWASH KILL CORONAVIRUS?

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26514

     

    "Listerine Antiseptic was able to decreases the infectious virus levels by greater than 4 log, or greater than 99.99%. After incubation times of 1 and 2?min, we were unable to detect any remaining infectious virus."

    SCIENCE SAYS; YES IT CAN.

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    FACT CHECK; CAN MOUTHWASH KILL CORONAVIRUS?

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jmv.26514

     

    "Listerine Antiseptic was able to decreases the infectious virus levels by greater than 4 log, or greater than 99.99%. After incubation times of 1 and 2?min, we were unable to detect any remaining infectious virus."

    SCIENCE SAYS; YES IT CAN.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 12:01 AM ET #329

    The whole problem is dumbasses spreading misinformation.

    Amen to that!

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    The whole problem is dumbasses spreading misinformation.

    Amen to that!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 9:23 AM ET #330

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    FACT CHECK; CAN MOUTHWASH KILL CORONAVIRUS?

    According to Listerine, mouthwash isn't intended to prevent or treat covid.  Although there are lab studies (in vitro) of listerine mouthwashes having some activity on coronavirus, the available data is insufficient.  No evidence-based clinical conclusions can be made as to the anti-viral efficacy of listerine mouthwashes.  More research is needed. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    FACT CHECK; CAN MOUTHWASH KILL CORONAVIRUS?

    According to Listerine, mouthwash isn't intended to prevent or treat covid.  Although there are lab studies (in vitro) of listerine mouthwashes having some activity on coronavirus, the available data is insufficient.  No evidence-based clinical conclusions can be made as to the anti-viral efficacy of listerine mouthwashes.  More research is needed. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 9:31 AM ET #331

    Studies have confirmed that some mouthwashes reduce or destroy detectable virus levels in saliva. 

    That’s a fact, Jack. 

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    Studies have confirmed that some mouthwashes reduce or destroy detectable virus levels in saliva. 

    That’s a fact, Jack. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:03 AM ET #332

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Sen. Ron Johnson FALSELY standard mouthwash has been proven to kill the coronavirus.

    Fubah2 is right.  Crest, listerine and other companies warn that standard mouthwashes aren't intended to be used to treat or prevent covid.  According to healthline, there isn't enough research to support mouthwash as a effective tool to fight covid.  Limited lab test on petri dish isn't as conclusive as large clinical trials involving humans. Furthermore, mouthwash temporarily affects mouth and throat but not nose and lungs where virus can continue to reproduce.  This means mouthwash is unlikely to have an impact on the disease. So Johnson's flawed advice distracts people from more effective ways to control the virus such as masks, vaccines and avoiding crowds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Sen. Ron Johnson FALSELY standard mouthwash has been proven to kill the coronavirus.

    Fubah2 is right.  Crest, listerine and other companies warn that standard mouthwashes aren't intended to be used to treat or prevent covid.  According to healthline, there isn't enough research to support mouthwash as a effective tool to fight covid.  Limited lab test on petri dish isn't as conclusive as large clinical trials involving humans. Furthermore, mouthwash temporarily affects mouth and throat but not nose and lungs where virus can continue to reproduce.  This means mouthwash is unlikely to have an impact on the disease. So Johnson's flawed advice distracts people from more effective ways to control the virus such as masks, vaccines and avoiding crowds.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:12 AM ET #333

    Didn't say mouthwash is a treatment for COVID, those are your words.

    Fubah stated claiming standard mouthwash killing coronavirus FALSE. 

    I have proven otherwise. 

    Research is right there in my link. Scientific evidence, not just words!

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    Didn't say mouthwash is a treatment for COVID, those are your words.

    Fubah stated claiming standard mouthwash killing coronavirus FALSE. 

    I have proven otherwise. 

    Research is right there in my link. Scientific evidence, not just words!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:15 AM ET #334

    Dr. Richard Stanton, lead author on the study and a reader in virology at Cardiff University, said: "This study adds to the emerging literature that several commonly available mouthwashes designed to fight gum disease can also inactivate the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus (and other related coronaviruses) when tested in the laboratory under conditions that are designed to mimic the oral/nasal cavity in a test tube."

    I rate science denier Fubah’s claim as 4 Pinocchio’s 

    lielielielie

     

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    Dr. Richard Stanton, lead author on the study and a reader in virology at Cardiff University, said: "This study adds to the emerging literature that several commonly available mouthwashes designed to fight gum disease can also inactivate the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus (and other related coronaviruses) when tested in the laboratory under conditions that are designed to mimic the oral/nasal cavity in a test tube."

    I rate science denier Fubah’s claim as 4 Pinocchio’s 

    lielielielie

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 11:20 AM ET #335

    Dexamethazone not intended to treat COVID yet it helps.

    Dexamethazone widely used to treat horses, I used it on horses often in my horse racing training days. Never saw CNN claiming that to be a horse drug, an_roll_laugh

     

     

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    Dexamethazone not intended to treat COVID yet it helps.

    Dexamethazone widely used to treat horses, I used it on horses often in my horse racing training days. Never saw CNN claiming that to be a horse drug, an_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 5:20 PM ET #336

    https://www.covers.com/forum/penalty-box-41/demaryius-thomas-103591163/3

     

    Let's see one of the three amigos jump into this one..... spoiler alert, this one is too scary for the imbeciles an_roll_laugh

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    https://www.covers.com/forum/penalty-box-41/demaryius-thomas-103591163/3

     

    Let's see one of the three amigos jump into this one..... spoiler alert, this one is too scary for the imbeciles an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 7:14 PM ET #337

     'No evidence of fraud, you know that!' an_light
           CBS News’ Margaret Brennan shuts down
          Ted Cruz's election lies to his face, on air

     

     CBS "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan wasn't shy
    about asking Cruz tough questions, and she called him out
    for continuing to promote the widely debunked LIE that
    the 2020 election was stolen from former President Trump
    because of "alleged" widespread voter fraud.

     

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     'No evidence of fraud, you know that!' an_light
           CBS News’ Margaret Brennan shuts down
          Ted Cruz's election lies to his face, on air

     

     CBS "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan wasn't shy
    about asking Cruz tough questions, and she called him out
    for continuing to promote the widely debunked LIE that
    the 2020 election was stolen from former President Trump
    because of "alleged" widespread voter fraud.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2021 - 8:01 PM ET #338

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

     'No evidence of fraud, you know that!' an_light
           CBS News’ Margaret Brennan shuts down
          Ted Cruz's election lies to his face, on air

     

     CBS "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan wasn't shy
    about asking Cruz tough questions, and she called him out
    for continuing to promote the widely debunked LIE that
    the 2020 election was stolen from former President Trump
    because of "alleged" widespread voter fraud.

    she is right            a lie is a lie no matter who is saying it

     

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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     'No evidence of fraud, you know that!' an_light
           CBS News’ Margaret Brennan shuts down
          Ted Cruz's election lies to his face, on air

     

     CBS "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan wasn't shy
    about asking Cruz tough questions, and she called him out
    for continuing to promote the widely debunked LIE that
    the 2020 election was stolen from former President Trump
    because of "alleged" widespread voter fraud.

    she is right            a lie is a lie no matter who is saying it

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2021 - 7:39 PM ET #339

    Mediamatters reveal that Fox news mislead viewers on link between covid vaccination and hospitalizations.  Fox falsely claims that there isn't any data on the vaccination status of people hospitalized.  Actually, it has been well documented for months that Center for disease control collects such data from hospitals. 

    Kaiser family foundation estimates over 160,000 covid deaths between June and November that likely could be prevented by vaccination in the US.  Also fully vaccinated people with breakthrough covid account for just 15% of all US covid hospitalizations.  Higher rates of infection, hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated prove that vaccines work.

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    Mediamatters reveal that Fox news mislead viewers on link between covid vaccination and hospitalizations.  Fox falsely claims that there isn't any data on the vaccination status of people hospitalized.  Actually, it has been well documented for months that Center for disease control collects such data from hospitals. 

    Kaiser family foundation estimates over 160,000 covid deaths between June and November that likely could be prevented by vaccination in the US.  Also fully vaccinated people with breakthrough covid account for just 15% of all US covid hospitalizations.  Higher rates of infection, hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated prove that vaccines work.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2021 - 10:00 PM ET #340

    Maxine Waters not wearing a mask on a plane? 

    Trust the science! 

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    Maxine Waters not wearing a mask on a plane? 

    Trust the science! 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Kaiser Family Foundation estimates over 160,000 covid deaths between June and November that likely could be prevented by vaccination in the US. Also fully vaccinated people with breakthrough covid account for just 15% of all US covid hospitalizations. Higher rates of infection, hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated prove that vaccines work.

     

    If resistance to vaccines and other covid health measures had been STOPPED last year by the administtration and compliance encouraged *DAILY* on all media -- I don't believe we would be in this mess today.  Or certainly not anywhere even near the degree to which we find ourselves.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Kaiser Family Foundation estimates over 160,000 covid deaths between June and November that likely could be prevented by vaccination in the US. Also fully vaccinated people with breakthrough covid account for just 15% of all US covid hospitalizations. Higher rates of infection, hospitalizations and deaths among the unvaccinated prove that vaccines work.

     

    If resistance to vaccines and other covid health measures had been STOPPED last year by the administtration and compliance encouraged *DAILY* on all media -- I don't believe we would be in this mess today.  Or certainly not anywhere even near the degree to which we find ourselves.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to wikipedia, controversial media host Rogan and discredited cardiologist Peter mcCullough promote misinformation about covid, vaccines and treatments.

    For examples, covid treatments withheld from population in order to increase fear and hospitalizations.  Pandemic pre-planned by China and Gates foundation.  Infected people are less likely to be reinfected.  Vaccines are unsafe and cause virus mutations.    Children should not be vaccined.  Vaccines don't prevent virus spread. 

    Their false claims have been debunked by medical community.

    Correct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to wikipedia, controversial media host Rogan and discredited cardiologist Peter mcCullough promote misinformation about covid, vaccines and treatments.

    For examples, covid treatments withheld from population in order to increase fear and hospitalizations.  Pandemic pre-planned by China and Gates foundation.  Infected people are less likely to be reinfected.  Vaccines are unsafe and cause virus mutations.    Children should not be vaccined.  Vaccines don't prevent virus spread. 

    Their false claims have been debunked by medical community.

    Correct!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2021 - 2:41 PM ET #343

    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid. 

    I have yet to see a democrat point that out. 

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    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid. 

    I have yet to see a democrat point that out. 

    confused

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2021 - 3:28 PM ET #344

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

    your boss donald chump said there was massive fraud in the 2020 election that cost him the presidency

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

    your boss donald chump said there was massive fraud in the 2020 election that cost him the presidency

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

    Their rebuttal will most likely be something about Trump. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

    Their rebuttal will most likely be something about Trump. 

    an_timeout

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2021 - 4:38 PM ET #346

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

     

    your boss donald chump said there was massive fraud in the 2020 election that cost him the presidency

     

    his rebuttal will most likely b something really lame

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: The companies that make surgical masks say their masks will not protect you against Covid.  I have yet to see a democrat point that out.

     

    your boss donald chump said there was massive fraud in the 2020 election that cost him the presidency

     

    his rebuttal will most likely b something really lame

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2021 - 10:32 PM ET #347

     

     

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    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

     

     

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    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2021 - 9:06 AM ET #348

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Doja45: One could make the argument that the New York Times is the written version of talk radio.   one could .  but then one could shove his hand into an open electrical outlet too both ideas have the same merit Doja is actually 100% correct but you don't have to take my word for it. You should read Chomsky's Manufactured Consent and then read Matt Taibbi's Hate, inc. And while I agree with Rockfort's general thesis, there is nothing wrong with discourse. There is something wrong with jumping all over a guy with childish, wise apple remarks when you're clearly uninformed on the subject in our own right. And frankly, how does one even "stick his hand in an open electrical outlet"? What exactly is an open electrical outlet? Is that like a open man hole? An open book? Have you ever swung a hammer? You sound like when a chick tries to talk about cars.

     

    Trump-Derangement  does this to a person.

    an_roll_laughJust read and laugh is all one can do

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by Doja45: One could make the argument that the New York Times is the written version of talk radio.   one could .  but then one could shove his hand into an open electrical outlet too both ideas have the same merit Doja is actually 100% correct but you don't have to take my word for it. You should read Chomsky's Manufactured Consent and then read Matt Taibbi's Hate, inc. And while I agree with Rockfort's general thesis, there is nothing wrong with discourse. There is something wrong with jumping all over a guy with childish, wise apple remarks when you're clearly uninformed on the subject in our own right. And frankly, how does one even "stick his hand in an open electrical outlet"? What exactly is an open electrical outlet? Is that like a open man hole? An open book? Have you ever swung a hammer? You sound like when a chick tries to talk about cars.

     

    Trump-Derangement  does this to a person.

    an_roll_laughJust read and laugh is all one can do

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    cut from fux news ::

     

    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

    Unfortunate

     

     

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    cut from fux news ::

     

    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

    Unfortunate

     

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    cut from fux news ::

     

    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

    Unfortunate

     

     

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    cut from fux news ::

     

    First Omicron-related death in US was an unvaccinated Texas person


    A man in Texas,

    whose death was related to the Omicron coronavirus variant,

    was unvaccinated and

    had previously been infected with Covid-19,

    according to a release from Harris County Public Health.

    Unfortunate

     

     

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