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    dl36
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:03 PM ET #151

    Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing 
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:43 PM ET #152

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    great, not sure your sources but maybe you have 4 examples over who knows what period of time in the entire country and only one of which involved a bathroom.  let's create more laws and bigger government. 

    i'm just trying to show you how to be a real conservative rather than a big government liberal who wants big brother to protect you. 

    you may be too far gone on the big government/safe space liberal spectrum, but in case you ever want to try and become a real conservative one day, here's a handy three step process to go through to determine whether more laws and bigger government is the answer to your fears and concerns:

    1. is there a verified, proven problem that needs to be addressed by more laws and bigger government?  in this scenario we'd be looking for some kind of consistent, significant pattern of transgender people committing crimes inside bathrooms. 

    2. if so, is the new law and bigger government likely to solve or improve the problem?  here, we'd need proof that creating a safe space in bathrooms is likely to deter criminals from committing the crimes that were proven to often occur in part one.  not just laws to try to appease rightwing bed wetting over the issue.

    3. if the answers to 1 and 2 are yes, are there already laws in place to deal with the problem so that we don't need any more?  for instance, if we are trying deter rape or child molestation, don't we already have such laws in place to do that?  if so, we don't need even more laws, and bigger government as it becomes redundant.

    so, i implore you to stop looking to big government to create a safe space for you.  stop being such a liberal who wants big brother to solve your issues, whether real or perceived.

    follow these steps to become a limited government conservative. 
    1.Yes
    2.Yes
    3.No, it’s not a federal crime for men to use the women’s restroom. A pattern of women being victims of men who claim to women has emerged. There needs to be a stiff penalty in order to try to deter men from pretending to be women in order to gain access to women’s facilities.  

    Republicanism is the belief in limited government, unless to do this threatens the republic as a whole, and prevents the government from becoming a guardian to its individuals. The role of government in a republic is to safeguard the collective republic.

    Those steps don’t lead to limited government conservatism. The steps you espoused lead to a complete disregard for public safety and law and order. That’s not conservatism. That’s libertarian anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    great, not sure your sources but maybe you have 4 examples over who knows what period of time in the entire country and only one of which involved a bathroom.  let's create more laws and bigger government. 

    i'm just trying to show you how to be a real conservative rather than a big government liberal who wants big brother to protect you. 

    you may be too far gone on the big government/safe space liberal spectrum, but in case you ever want to try and become a real conservative one day, here's a handy three step process to go through to determine whether more laws and bigger government is the answer to your fears and concerns:

    1. is there a verified, proven problem that needs to be addressed by more laws and bigger government?  in this scenario we'd be looking for some kind of consistent, significant pattern of transgender people committing crimes inside bathrooms. 

    2. if so, is the new law and bigger government likely to solve or improve the problem?  here, we'd need proof that creating a safe space in bathrooms is likely to deter criminals from committing the crimes that were proven to often occur in part one.  not just laws to try to appease rightwing bed wetting over the issue.

    3. if the answers to 1 and 2 are yes, are there already laws in place to deal with the problem so that we don't need any more?  for instance, if we are trying deter rape or child molestation, don't we already have such laws in place to do that?  if so, we don't need even more laws, and bigger government as it becomes redundant.

    so, i implore you to stop looking to big government to create a safe space for you.  stop being such a liberal who wants big brother to solve your issues, whether real or perceived.

    follow these steps to become a limited government conservative. 
    1.Yes
    2.Yes
    3.No, it’s not a federal crime for men to use the women’s restroom. A pattern of women being victims of men who claim to women has emerged. There needs to be a stiff penalty in order to try to deter men from pretending to be women in order to gain access to women’s facilities.  

    Republicanism is the belief in limited government, unless to do this threatens the republic as a whole, and prevents the government from becoming a guardian to its individuals. The role of government in a republic is to safeguard the collective republic.

    Those steps don’t lead to limited government conservatism. The steps you espoused lead to a complete disregard for public safety and law and order. That’s not conservatism. That’s libertarian anarchy.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 4:53 PM ET #153

    all i can do is give you the tools to denounce your big government liberalism, but if you don't understand how to use them, there's only so much i can do. 
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    all i can do is give you the tools to denounce your big government liberalism, but if you don't understand how to use them, there's only so much i can do. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 6:10 PM ET #154

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    all i can do is give you the tools to denounce your big government liberalism, but if you don't understand how to use them, there's only so much i can do. 
    You’ve gone completely delusional. Big government isn’t implementing common sense safeguards for the collective republic. Big government is gun control, high taxation, safety nets, federal overreach in the business sector, or government intrusion on private or personal matters. Liberalism would what you’re advocating. You advocate freedom for biologically born men to have unrestricted access to the public restroom according to the gender that they identify with. That’s liberalism. You’re not denouncing big government liberalism. You’re advocating liberal libertarian anarchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    all i can do is give you the tools to denounce your big government liberalism, but if you don't understand how to use them, there's only so much i can do. 
    You’ve gone completely delusional. Big government isn’t implementing common sense safeguards for the collective republic. Big government is gun control, high taxation, safety nets, federal overreach in the business sector, or government intrusion on private or personal matters. Liberalism would what you’re advocating. You advocate freedom for biologically born men to have unrestricted access to the public restroom according to the gender that they identify with. That’s liberalism. You’re not denouncing big government liberalism. You’re advocating liberal libertarian anarchy.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

     
    I guess there are no Republicans that commit adultery or do you just have selective memory? 

    But to address your comment, I guess in your eyes adultery is worse than starting a war that kills thousands and ruins millions of lives. Nice logic. 

    Logic just isn't his strong suit.  At least that's what we have learned on this thread and with his posting on this site. 

    It's just unfair 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

     
    I guess there are no Republicans that commit adultery or do you just have selective memory? 

    But to address your comment, I guess in your eyes adultery is worse than starting a war that kills thousands and ruins millions of lives. Nice logic. 

    Logic just isn't his strong suit.  At least that's what we have learned on this thread and with his posting on this site. 

    It's just unfair 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 10:05 PM ET #156

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Logic just isn't his strong suit.  At least that's what we have learned on this thread and with his posting on this site. 

    It's just unfair 


    Once again you act like stupidity is a virtue. Just like Ktrain completely missed the fact that I posted that both parties elect despicable people yet conservatives tend to be less forgiving.

    You even read thd part where I chastised Ktrain for  failing to see that and still posted your last misinformed garbage.

    You can't make this up.

    Stupidity is not a virtue. Get that through your head!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Logic just isn't his strong suit.  At least that's what we have learned on this thread and with his posting on this site. 

    It's just unfair 


    Once again you act like stupidity is a virtue. Just like Ktrain completely missed the fact that I posted that both parties elect despicable people yet conservatives tend to be less forgiving.

    You even read thd part where I chastised Ktrain for  failing to see that and still posted your last misinformed garbage.

    You can't make this up.

    Stupidity is not a virtue. Get that through your head!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 10:33 PM ET #157

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Once again you act like stupidity is a virtue. Just like Ktrain completely missed the fact that I posted that both parties elect despicable people yet conservatives tend to be less forgiving.

    You even read thd part where I chastised Ktrain for  failing to see that and still posted your last misinformed garbage.

    You can't make this up.

    Stupidity is not a virtue. Get that through your head!

     

    Chastising people now??? How funny. 

    I admit it was my fault for missing your one post of being an "NPI" in what is an ocean of anti-democrat posts. That could be understood given your history of blindly following whatever your Republican leaders tell you to think though. What's your Daddy D!ck Cheney telling you to do this week? 

    You clearly seem quite forgiving of everything that happened from 2000-2008. Does this mean that you're not a Conservative? 

    Unless the definition of "chastise" has changed to "showing one's own hypocrisy", you're not chastising anyone. You're just being shown for being the hypocrite that you are. 

    That, my hypocritical friend, you cannot make up. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    Once again you act like stupidity is a virtue. Just like Ktrain completely missed the fact that I posted that both parties elect despicable people yet conservatives tend to be less forgiving.

    You even read thd part where I chastised Ktrain for  failing to see that and still posted your last misinformed garbage.

    You can't make this up.

    Stupidity is not a virtue. Get that through your head!

     

    Chastising people now??? How funny. 

    I admit it was my fault for missing your one post of being an "NPI" in what is an ocean of anti-democrat posts. That could be understood given your history of blindly following whatever your Republican leaders tell you to think though. What's your Daddy D!ck Cheney telling you to do this week? 

    You clearly seem quite forgiving of everything that happened from 2000-2008. Does this mean that you're not a Conservative? 

    Unless the definition of "chastise" has changed to "showing one's own hypocrisy", you're not chastising anyone. You're just being shown for being the hypocrite that you are. 

    That, my hypocritical friend, you cannot make up. 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 11:29 PM ET #158

    Bathrooms single toilet facilities uni sex. Seat up seat down add a uniral. No confusion go in wipe the seat and piss lock the door emerge after paperwork and leave. Or a man women confused sighns on the doors.
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    Bathrooms single toilet facilities uni sex. Seat up seat down add a uniral. No confusion go in wipe the seat and piss lock the door emerge after paperwork and leave. Or a man women confused sighns on the doors.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 12, 2016 - 11:38 PM ET #159

    ucberkley has had unisex dorm bathrooms for centuries/showers too.
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    ucberkley has had unisex dorm bathrooms for centuries/showers too.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


     

    Chastising people now??? How funny. 

    I admit it was my fault for missing your one post of being an "NPI" in what is an ocean of anti-democrat posts. That could be understood given your history of blindly following whatever your Republican leaders tell you to think though. What's your Daddy D!ck Cheney telling you to do this week? 

    You clearly seem quite forgiving of everything that happened from 2000-2008. Does this mean that you're not a Conservative? 

    Unless the definition of "chastise" has changed to "showing one's own hypocrisy", you're not chastising anyone. You're just being shown for being the hypocrite that you are. 

    That, my hypocritical friend, you cannot make up. 


    I don't know what all that other garbage is but yes I did get after you because you stepped on your dlck. DL36 is even worse than you because he should have read that post where I indeed did call you out for being stupid and not reading my posts before you accused me of saying stuff I didn't say. Debate 101.

    Instead of apologies, all you did was make an attempt at a butt hurt accusation.

    So here I give you a compliment that you're smarter than dl36 and you continue the butt hurt gibberish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


     

    Chastising people now??? How funny. 

    I admit it was my fault for missing your one post of being an "NPI" in what is an ocean of anti-democrat posts. That could be understood given your history of blindly following whatever your Republican leaders tell you to think though. What's your Daddy D!ck Cheney telling you to do this week? 

    You clearly seem quite forgiving of everything that happened from 2000-2008. Does this mean that you're not a Conservative? 

    Unless the definition of "chastise" has changed to "showing one's own hypocrisy", you're not chastising anyone. You're just being shown for being the hypocrite that you are. 

    That, my hypocritical friend, you cannot make up. 


    I don't know what all that other garbage is but yes I did get after you because you stepped on your dlck. DL36 is even worse than you because he should have read that post where I indeed did call you out for being stupid and not reading my posts before you accused me of saying stuff I didn't say. Debate 101.

    Instead of apologies, all you did was make an attempt at a butt hurt accusation.

    So here I give you a compliment that you're smarter than dl36 and you continue the butt hurt gibberish.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 1:27 AM ET #162

    i liked how someone said

    'trump supporters were the kids in high school that sat in the back of the class waiting for high school to be over'

    pretty much sums it up
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    i liked how someone said

    'trump supporters were the kids in high school that sat in the back of the class waiting for high school to be over'

    pretty much sums it up
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    i liked how someone said

    'trump supporters were the kids in high school that sat in the back of the class waiting for high school to be over'

    pretty much sums it up

    Hillary supporters are the ones who constantly petitioned the teachers to grade on the curve so that they could surely get better grades then they earned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

    i liked how someone said

    'trump supporters were the kids in high school that sat in the back of the class waiting for high school to be over'

    pretty much sums it up

    Hillary supporters are the ones who constantly petitioned the teachers to grade on the curve so that they could surely get better grades then they earned.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    You missed my point again. I said both parties elect despicable people. Are you only seeing the parts of my posts you want to see?

    Post#112

    Thats me chastising Ktrain for accusing me of saying things I didn't say. Debate 101. 

    The same post that dullard36 should have seen before he doubled down on Ktrains post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    You missed my point again. I said both parties elect despicable people. Are you only seeing the parts of my posts you want to see?

    Post#112

    Thats me chastising Ktrain for accusing me of saying things I didn't say. Debate 101. 

    The same post that dullard36 should have seen before he doubled down on Ktrains post.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 13, 2016 - 11:39 AM ET #165

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    I don't know what all that other garbage is but yes I did get after you because you stepped on your dlck. DL36 is even worse than you because he should have read that post where I indeed did call you out for being stupid and not reading my posts before you accused me of saying stuff I didn't say. Debate 101.

    Instead of apologies, all you did was make an attempt at a butt hurt accusation.

    So here I give you a compliment that you're smarter than dl36 and you continue the butt hurt gibberish.

     

     Debate 101.

    You can't even articulate your own arguments and then get mad when I point this out to you. You don't even know the definition of terms you try and use to incorrectly make your points, and in turn, point out your hypocrisy. 




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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    I don't know what all that other garbage is but yes I did get after you because you stepped on your dlck. DL36 is even worse than you because he should have read that post where I indeed did call you out for being stupid and not reading my posts before you accused me of saying stuff I didn't say. Debate 101.

    Instead of apologies, all you did was make an attempt at a butt hurt accusation.

    So here I give you a compliment that you're smarter than dl36 and you continue the butt hurt gibberish.

     

     Debate 101.

    You can't even articulate your own arguments and then get mad when I point this out to you. You don't even know the definition of terms you try and use to incorrectly make your points, and in turn, point out your hypocrisy. 




     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:


     

     Debate 101.

    You can't even articulate your own arguments and then get mad when I point this out to you. You don't even know the definition of terms you try and use to incorrectly make your points, and in turn, point out your hypocrisy. 





    Just like you fail to comprehend or read what I say, you fail to understand why I get frustrated not mad. You are the one who gets butt hurt mad.

    I get frustrated when you do what you did....when you say I said something that I didn't say and I have to go back and remind you that it's your laziness that caused you to misunderstand me...anyone arguing with you would get frustrated.

    It's a simple solution for you...quit being so lazy and read the posts in the entirety before you pounce on something immaterial to argue about.
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     Debate 101.

    You can't even articulate your own arguments and then get mad when I point this out to you. You don't even know the definition of terms you try and use to incorrectly make your points, and in turn, point out your hypocrisy. 





    Just like you fail to comprehend or read what I say, you fail to understand why I get frustrated not mad. You are the one who gets butt hurt mad.

    I get frustrated when you do what you did....when you say I said something that I didn't say and I have to go back and remind you that it's your laziness that caused you to misunderstand me...anyone arguing with you would get frustrated.

    It's a simple solution for you...quit being so lazy and read the posts in the entirety before you pounce on something immaterial to argue about.
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